By Ade (193.129.220.205 - 193.129.220.205) on Wednesday, January 16, 2002 - 07:12 am:

All

sad news to pass on, but I've just read on Soul Source, that Hoagy passed away last weekend. This is a real shame, I'm sure you all agree. David, it wasn't long ago that we were bopping away to "The Next in Line" and both agreeing what a classic it really is.

By david, glasgow, scotland (213.122.206.186 - 213.122.206.186) on Wednesday, January 16, 2002 - 08:37 am:

thanks ade
i'm sure i read that he had a health scare after returning from england last year.

yes, that record is one of the rare breed that no matter how often i hear it, i love it. everything that is great about northern soul is in there.

hoagy was also highly respected for a significant number of ballads.

he had another one of the great 'names' on the scene. when he was unknown, i always wondered what he looked like.

like all visiting artists to this scene, he was thrilled at the response he was getting to his long forgotten tracks.

it's nice to know that the northern soul scene gave him some pleasure back.

Hoagy Lands R.I.P.

By Ritchie (62.254.0.6 - 62.254.0.6) on Wednesday, January 16, 2002 - 09:29 am:

I always liked his version of the Platters' Only You, which totally transformed the old chestnut into a nice beater.
Maybe Ted Carroll's crew could go digging in the Laurie vaults to see what can be found? A stereo mix of The Next In Line would be nice to hear, if it was cut at Bell Sound... (?)

By Carl Dixon London (62.31.40.173 - 62.31.40.173) on Wednesday, January 16, 2002 - 10:20 am:

I first heard 'The next in Line' on 'Piccadilly' radio, in Manchester on 18/9/77, on the Andy Peebles Soul Train programme.It was his competition question for the night - Who was the singer? I was taping the programme and did not know the answer and not living in Manchester I did not find out for another few years. Great track.

thanks
Carl

By Ritchie (62.254.0.6 - 62.254.0.6) on Wednesday, January 16, 2002 - 12:09 pm:

Might be a silly question, but is Andy still around? I used to know him (vaguely) when I lived over in the Manchester area. Nice guy as I remember, even if he never returned a tape I lent him! His Soul Train show on Picc was a "must" back then.

By Carl Dixon London (62.31.40.173 - 62.31.40.173) on Wednesday, January 16, 2002 - 12:40 pm:

I should have said 'recording onto a cassette' -domestic, not as in taping at the station. I think after that, he moved on to Radio One and from there, I do not know. I have just found the cassette and played that bit - 25 years old! He was wishing the Wigan Casino a happy birthday too! I used to record the Radio One Robbie Vincent soul programme in the 70's as well!

It�s amazing how these records stick in your mind when they were first heard, especially as my dancing days were numbered at that time. I remember hearing 'I'm gonna love you a long long time' by Patti and the Emblem for the first time on Radio Caroline, of all stations. The DJ mumbled the song title and then it was hunt the mumble mumble in the shops. I eventually found it on a Kent compilation thank god. One of the best from Philadelphia. Bobby, do you know anything about this track? When I got married in 2000, I had 'for ever and ever' inscribed on the inside of my wedding ring, which came from that track's chorus. Your friend Timothy Wilson recorded a track called 'Wedding Ring' on all Platinum, I believe. Talking of dancing, I have been trying to go to the '100 Club' and 'These old Shoes' down here, in London for the last 6 months without success (because of my shift work). Do any of the forum London members go to either of these? Oh How I would love to hear Hoagy Lands played in a club!

thanks

Carl Dixon

By Ade (193.129.220.205 - 193.129.220.205) on Sunday, January 20, 2002 - 11:44 pm:

Carl

(ignoring the ever present politics of the northern soul scene) I'll be down in London on the 26th for the New Rocket All-nighter. Should be a good night, the venue sounds fantastic. If you do make it down there, you'll see a "trapped in a time warp" geordie guy attempting a few spins in a pair of daft trousers, please say hello!

By Carl Dixon London (195.153.219.170 - 195.153.219.170) on Monday, January 21, 2002 - 07:45 am:

Ade

is this venue in the Holloway Road by chance? Where did you get your information about it?

Carl

By John Lester (213.122.202.13 - 213.122.202.13) on Monday, January 21, 2002 - 07:29 pm:

I saw that too...what's happening then....is the north coming to Islington.

I live in Islington!!

Isn't Ian Levine going to be there too?

What Motown gets played?

By david, glasgow, scotland (62.252.128.4 - 62.252.128.4) on Monday, January 21, 2002 - 08:44 pm:

john

when i was in london recently i was amazed at the amount of venues playing soul from all eras.

By Ade (193.129.220.205 - 193.129.220.205) on Monday, January 21, 2002 - 10:50 pm:

Lads

theres a website for the "do" at http://www.metropolitansoul.com/

doesn't tell you a great deal, but the flyer says its a two room event, 900 capacity in the "northern" room and a smaller "modern room", record dealers, "video footage" (eh?), sprung maple dancefloor, air conditioning and (as mentioned)a 30 yr old geordie feller wearing big trousers and dancing like it was 1969 all over again. Ian Levine is dejaying (hang on to your wallets! only joking) amongst others. hoping it'll be a good night (it's a long way from Glesga!)

(sounds nowt like the wheel though, eh David)!!

By Ade (193.129.220.205 - 193.129.220.205) on Monday, January 21, 2002 - 10:51 pm:

oops

forgot to mention that Tuffnel park dome soul night is on the friday before (25th) and that's really good too, by all accounts.

By Carl Dixon London (195.153.219.170 - 195.153.219.170) on Tuesday, January 22, 2002 - 03:15 am:

Ade

if I do manage to go, I will look out for you! My ridiculous attire was binned, sadly, many years ago. Unlike my records of course. I saw the web site - cool.

Carl

By Carl Dixon London (195.153.219.170 - 195.153.219.170) on Tuesday, January 22, 2002 - 03:52 am:

In addition, on the flyer for this venue there is a web page for 'Northern' merchandise. It is: http://www.soultogether.com/

If you click the 'shop' button you can see all the stuff available. I may well treat myself to a mug or two or even a tee shirt! How about a 'Tera Shirma' tee shirt.

Thanks

Carl Dixon

By John Lester (213.122.202.131 - 213.122.202.131) on Tuesday, January 22, 2002 - 03:23 pm:

yeah...I want a Tera Shirma tee shirt too....

By Keith Rylatt (212.44.18.3 - 212.44.18.3) on Tuesday, February 19, 2002 - 01:42 pm:

Re T Shirts, in the '70's Phil Lynskey of Soul House Records, Wakefield, UK, printed one of the first soul T shirts and it certainly caused a storm. It featured an unissued Golden World 45 # and was titled THE SOUL OF DETROIT by EDWIN STARR & THE HOLIDAYS. It certainly got folk jumpin'. It inspired me, a couple of years later to put some spoof Detroit 45s on the cover of Rod Dearlove's MIDNITE EXPRESS magazine. I didn't realise at the time that people took it so seriously. These items began turning up on want lists! Although it is now over 20 years ago.....SORRY! But things were a bit less serious then.

Because you could buy Detroit 45s in 100 count boxes from Martin Koppel in Don MIlls Canada for a matter of cents each we used to assume it would all never end and there was a bottomless pit of them in the states......how wrong we were!!! Some of those penny items now command 5 figure sums.

It may be of interest to you guys that there was a DETROIT COLLECTOR'S GUIDE out in the UK. It came out courtesy of Rod Dearlove in about 1980. It lists 1000's of Detroit records, backing track info and the UK aspect to the scene. As one of the main contributors I think that I have a right to let anyone have a copy. Let me know. Also in the early 70's a French mag called SOUL BAG put out a Detroit Special issue.

On the topic of publications, I have just recovered from writing one book on the scene - CENtral 1179. Bee Cool Publishing, which was well received, anyhow - I have decided to work on a new project about DETROIT, I am now in my 50's and got the Detroit bug 30 years ago and have decided that it is too important to take to my grave.

This web site is a fantastic tribute and I want to also pay homage to this great city. Shortly I would like to post a few questions and would appreciate your assistance. With such dedicated guys as David Meikle & John Lester to hand I feel confident it will be a success.

By david, glasgow, scotland (62.252.128.5 - 62.252.128.5) on Tuesday, February 19, 2002 - 06:21 pm:

hi keith and welcome to the forum.

are you saying you have copies of the collectors guide?

please let me know.

for our american friends out there, and i know we have many, keith co-wrote the story of the twisted wheel club which was based in manchester.

the wheel is featured on our 'northern soul' tour and is probably one of main the reasons for the existence of soulfuldetroit.

the fabulous sounds of detroit (and beyond) were played there religiously every weekend from 11pm thru to 7.30am

the club lives forever within the hearts of those who attended it.

keith made a wonderful job of that book.

By Keith Rylatt (212.44.18.3 - 212.44.18.3) on Thursday, February 21, 2002 - 03:11 pm:

Detroit Collector's Guide. I have spoken to Rod Dearlove and he is happy for me to send any one who is interested, a copy of the guide. It lists scores of Detroit discographies, a cross index of mutual backing tracks etc and which Detroit records got released in the UK etc. If interested in a copy, please E mail me and request one - keithsally50@hotmail.com
Please indicate where you live and I can work out a postage charge.

By John Lester (213.122.204.249 - 213.122.204.249) on Saturday, February 23, 2002 - 12:54 am:

Guys

It was Keith that told me about this site...so you can bash him!!!

Can you believe that Keith had to FORCE me to take some Detroit records from one of his old record lists....Masqueraders, Sidra's Theme, Wonderettes........yes he forced me..........I still can't beleive it myself!! Mind you that was about 30 years ago...

By david, glasgow, scotland (62.252.128.5 - 62.252.128.5) on Saturday, February 23, 2002 - 12:58 am:

do you still have 'sidra's theme'?

an ABSOLUTELY incredible record!

By John Lester (213.122.204.212 - 213.122.204.212) on Saturday, February 23, 2002 - 08:27 am:

David.....are you asking me if I still play music!!

I dont think I need to answer that one...


LOL