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johneflat (johneflat)
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Post Number: 114
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 6:13 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

oK....I recently learned that my city has decided to issue licenses to panhandle, anyone ever heard of this? I don't know what it's supposed to accomplish, plus I was raised that you work for what you get, and you get what you work for.
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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
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Post Number: 1830
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 7:57 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

John,

I never heard of that before. Where is this licensing occurring??
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johneflat (johneflat)
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Post Number: 117
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 9:02 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm in Dayton, Ohio.
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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
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Post Number: 1856
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 9:59 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

John,

That sounds so unreal. How did they explain this one to the populace???

Second question: Are they going to have stock offerings??? :-)
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Destruction (destruction)
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Post Number: 268
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 10:13 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We've got that on the East Coast....we call em gubmint workers.
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~medusa~ (~medusa)
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Post Number: 475
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 10:14 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh My Goodness, First it was giving out free syringes to IVDA's, legalizing Marijuana, sending homeowners to jail, for shooting intruders for breaking in their homes, now legalizing panhandling, what's next~stamping everyone with a barcode of their SS # ???
So, why don't they just make a 'Red Zone" in all the BIG Cities and tax 'em ???
I don't mean to offend anyone, if I did, I didn't mean to.
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johneflat (johneflat)
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Post Number: 118
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 4:01 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i'll post more info on this lunacy as I get it...
Their first excuse is to register and keep track of beggars (heaven knows we need THAT!)but I'm still waiting for the REAL explanation.
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Erik T (erik_t)
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Post Number: 45
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 2:21 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It doesn't surprise me. Calgary Alberta started doing this as well, I think. I don't understand why panhandlers deserve fewer civil rights than the rest of us, nor the benefits of tracking people who have nothing and are often hopmeless. Free syringes and legal pot make sense to me too, though... making begging illegal is comparable to making homelessness illegal, and I don't think the poor deserve to be automatically criminalized without having committed any crime. It may be cash grab, as many American jurisdictions now like to charge prisoners for their stay, so maybe more of your police can act as veritable dog-catchers of broke people. That's lunacy to me...
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johneflat (johneflat)
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Post Number: 125
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 12:48 am: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well.....they couldn't lock up panhandlers here if they wanted to, jails are overcrowded with murderers and drugdealers. Panhandling is accepted as a fact of life and not criminalized in and of itself, the question is what purpose will the license serve? In other words pandhandlers will panhandle, with or without a license, so what's the license for? The question pertains to the city governments thinking, not towards panhandlers..........The people end up paying the tab for their bright ideas!
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Nosey (nosey)
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Post Number: 228
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 9:12 am: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What gets my goat more than adults panhandling is when these marching bands have children standing in the highway ducking and dodging cars asking for donations while the adults are standing safe on the sidewalk. I'm waiting for a major tragedy to happen; you know like a child getting killed or maimed. I called my city council representative, state representative and they both pooh-poohed what I had to say. They basicially said, "what can you do?" I said, make it illegal for anyone under the age of 21 to be in the street begging for money and make it a criminal act if any adult is out there sanctioning this type of behavior!" Duh!

(Message edited by Nosey on August 18, 2004)
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DyvaNaye (westside314)
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Post Number: 757
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 5:37 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am utterly convinced that people are losing their damned minds...when we have so much hunger, lawbreaking, lack of education, bigotry and unjustified wars going on, and need laws about stuff like that, PANDHANDLING? You mean that woman who spits and curse at people near my local subway will/may have rights to do this now if I decide not to give her her 25 cent fix on a daily basis? Aw Hell Naw...!
I just told someone the other day I give out so much of my money and food and clothing, I need to start claiming some of these folks on my taxes! What does this do/imply for CHARITY now? A genuine person who is in need will have to apply for a permit to recieve a gift?! This is some burecratic bull crap...can you send an article or something? I need to discuss this in a 'think-tank' discussion with my peers who run non profits for a living...
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johneflat (johneflat)
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Username: johneflat

Post Number: 130
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Sunday, August 22, 2004 - 5:01 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You're doing good, Dyva. Here they want at least 75 cents, thay're keeping pace with inflation too, I guess........Anyhoo... we're still waiting for the REAL reason for this to come out. We're still paying for the "100 years of flight" mess!

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