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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2004 - 6:21 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, in yet another way to reduce us humans to mere Xs & Os, the FDA has approved a computer chip, which can be installed into humans. This chip is roughly the size of a grain of rice & allegedly will be used to aid doctors in treating patients,yada, yada yada. Naturally, they said the same thing about all of those wonderful ATM & E-Z Pass cards, which were eventually used to track peoples' movements.

Now, with the threat of terrorism everywhere, how long do you think it will take our government to use this as a means to fight (ahem) terror?? I would not be the least bit shocked to read one day that implantation of these chips are crucial to America's safety. In my opinion, one way or another, we WILL be forced to undergo implantation, under penalty of the law, likely as per the Homeland Security Law. I can't think of one of these inventions that hasn't been used to the detriment of man, in one way or another.

Medical breakthrough????? Perhaps. It sounds more like the beginning of the prophetic "Mark Of The Beast" to me.

Here's the link to the story:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/62 37364/
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Bob F (notsocool66)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2004 - 7:11 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Juice ... speaking of the Theramin! :-)
Sorry, I couldn't resist; I realize that the "Mark of The Beast" issue is important to many people-and I do agree that there has been an erosion of privacy.

Bob F.
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Robb_K (robb_k)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2004 - 10:59 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm with you there, Juice. If there's a way to use a good thing to take advantage of others, the greedy, power-hungry and nasty people among us will figure out how to use it, and do so. I'm kind of glad I'm nearing my twilight years. The World's already getting too weird! In the old days we knew a little better what we were fighting against. I don't want to be living in the time of "Big Brother", a bunch of clones and "designer people"!
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Richard Felstead (felstead2001)
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Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2004 - 3:28 am: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow Juice,
You are right up my street my man.
It will happen eventually I'm sure, and it will be a way of keepin' tabs on somebody's movement.

I wonder if you agree with me, in that tagging your beloved pets was the forerunner to this idea, just to see if there might be any weird side effects.

Either that idea or we end up with barcodes on our heads as in "Alien 3" for ID purposes.

It is a little scary when science fiction starts to become science fact. A bit like cloning really.
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LarsC (the_norwegian)
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Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2004 - 5:09 am: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I heard there was a nightclub (in Spain ?) that wanted to use these chips to replace the customers credit cards.

Supermarkets are looking into using RFID tags to monitor their merchandise. These are radio chips that does not get removed when you buy a product. This means that they eventually can be used to trace your movements in and out of shops through the day.

U.S. anti terrorism acts require biometric passports to be used by foreigners visiting the U.S. This makes the monitoring of people based on recognition of the iris possible through the use of security cameras.

This is only the beginning.....
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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
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Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2004 - 8:36 am: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Bob...theramin indeed :-)

Robb: Things are indeed getting strange. The way things are going, I'm not at all optimistic about seeing those twilight years. This is not the world that I remember as a child & I never thought that I'd see such lunacy in my lifetime. Everyday when I read the paper, or hear the news, it gets worse. As I consider all of the events that are happening with nature & all of these nations so ready to wage war, I come to the conclusion that we're building up to an event that will prove to be the point of no return.

Man has always been at war, there's nothing new about that. However, this is the first time in my 44 years, where damn near the whole world is so ready to anihilate one another at the same time. Everyone thought that the fall of Russia was a great thing. However, as there's no balance now, every upstart with ambition has sprung up like bad weeds. Whereas we once had a clearly defined enemy, the players have changed & we don't know which hole they'll come out of, much less exactly who all of them are. The most dangerous thing is that most of them suffer from "Jerry Springeritis". They all want their 15 minutes of fame & want to engage in their own "Shock & Awe" program, hence the human bombs & car bombs. They want attention & will do anything to get their point across.

No one's afraid of the big bad U.S. anymore, even a nation such as North Korea shows disrepect & rattles their sabres, while mocking & threatening us. In the past, a nation like that wouldn't have had the nerve to do that. They're basically daring us to do something about them & nations like them will prove to be far more dangerous than the Soviet Union ever was.

Richard: I'm quite convinced that it will happen. In the beginning, it may start off "innocently" & as advertised. However, eventually it will be used for other purposed, unless they decide to skip the middle man, under the Homeland Security Act. The thing is, they'll find a way to convince the populace that it's for our own good. I wouldn't put it past them to stage a few "terror" attacks or something of that nature, in order to convince the natives of the necessity for doing so. When you have a country so blind, that our Presidential campaign is too close to call, in spite of the mistakes & outright arrogance of our "leader", anything is possible. Sadly, most people don't think for themselves & they'll submit to this, as it's to be used for "good". SURRRRRRE it will & the damn lambs will find no potential threat in it & won't realize just how their freedom is being threatened. That's sad, a mind's such a terrible thing to waste.

That would definitely fulfill the Biblical prophecy, that no man will be able to buy or sell without this mark. After all, if they order us to get these implants & we refuse, what will happen? Anyone who refuses will be known & will be an outcast. What would be their recourse against such persons?

As far as their testing it on pets, sure that's possible. They initially practiced cloning plants, altering the genetics of fruits & vegetables, creating hybrids. They use animals to experiment on to find cures for diseases, as well as sending monkeys into space to see if they could withstand atmospheric pressure in space. Sure they would monitor chips planted in animals, to see not only if the technology worked, but also to see what other ways it could be used. Remember, Viagra was originally used for heart patients, as was Rogaine. As we've learned, they both proved to have a few "hidden" benefits as well & were exploited for such.

As far as science fiction goes, my mother used to talk about seeing Buck Rogers serials as a kid. Back then, everyone thought that the idea of flying in space was crazy. Flash forward a few years & fantasy became reality. Look at our cell phones & other modern toys of ours. What once was found in Sci-Fi movies have become reality in our lifetimes. Robotic prosthesis, using animal hearts, what hasn't man done?

When you consider these things, it makes me believe that these Sci-Fi movies are definitely telling us something. So many of those "crazy" ideas have come to fruition & I feel that it's no coincidence. Too many things have come to pass to write these things off as happenstance. When you think back, they've been dropping clues all along. It's like reading a script & watching it play out before our eyes. Before there was 911, a movie came out called The Cell. That was a movie about terrorist cells in Brooklyn, seeking to wreak havoc. A few years later, we got 911. Maybe these screenwriters know a little bit more than we think they do.

Actually, all of these events seem to be scripted. All of these different things happening, at exactly the precise time. It's like connecting dots or a jigsaw puzzle & everything's falling perfectly into place. I'll tell you, if I didn't believe in The Bible, these events would change my mind. Too many things are happening, pretty much exactly as laid out prophetically. No, this is no accident & no mere coincidence. We'd have a better chance of hitting Lotto 3 times, than for all of these "coincidences" to be ramdom occurrences. There's something far greater at work here. It appears that we're seeing God's prophecy happening in our lifetimes. The day that I'll really know it's that time is when suddenly, we have peace everywhere. That will be the calm before the storm.

Lars, I fear that you're right. This is only the beginning & may God help us. It only gets crazier from here.

(Message edited by juicefree20 on October 14, 2004)
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~medusa~ (~medusa)
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Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2004 - 8:54 am: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know at some Hospitals,you'd be surprised of the folks that don't know their SS#, or their medical history, or what kinds of medicines they take and how much.
These patients, end up getting a dummy SS#, made up at random, when they're regeistered or maybe either spewed out by the computer.
I think this is a way of keeping up with every human & their business on this planet. Using healthcare & terrorism as the reason.
So in a minute,your name will become obsolete... your ID will be a number instead, how clever.
So where do they want to apply it? on the hand, or the head?
Who's idea was this in the first place???
I think the Holy Book called (him or her) a "BEAST"
It also speaks of a beast with some sort of (old) head wound, hmmm who could that be?
...and what color did the book of Revelation give this Horse?
Has anyone watched the narration of the Movie
"The Man Who Saw Tomorrow"? (The prophesies of Nostradomas). It also showed destruction of NY, and the building looked too much like the WTC, and there were a lot of other Prophesies in that movie....have you ever seen that one Juice?

(Message edited by ~medusa on October 14, 2004)
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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
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Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2004 - 9:14 am: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Medusa,

I have to tell you that I never saw that movie. I'm not clairvoyant or anything, but I can see the direction that things are heading in. I kinda hate to watch movies like that, reality is more thsn enough for me. I mean, like Marvin sang, It's Madness. The whold damn world is going crazy & the sad thing is that they don't evn seem to care. Folks are so filled with hate, pride & arrogance, they're willing to destroy themselves & everyone else. There's just no reasoning anymore, everyone wants to blow something up.

If these sorry bastards ever had to fight one on one, hand to hand in a fair fight, war as we know it would cease to exist. What most of these folks are, are punk ass little boys fighting with grown folks toys. They've learned one thing though....might makes right.
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~medusa~ (~medusa)
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Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2004 - 9:45 am: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yep...and the innocent are caught in the middle of all the mess they've made...Another thing really puzzles me and put a BIG "?" in my mind:
I still see young folks signing up for the military...
Fear Not Juice...This must take place I guess, to fulfill the prophesies...but it's still in divine order & control.
so let it be written, so let it be done (smile)
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Nosey (nosey)
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Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2004 - 11:53 am: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe I'm naive and just an optimistic person but I tend not to suspect hidden agendas all the time from the gubmint. Hope the inplant is used for what they claim it's going to be used for. Just ain't a conspiracy type person.

Juice what's going on the the ATM and E-Z Pass?
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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
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Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2004 - 7:17 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Nosey,

I've learned to suspect EVERYTHING about the government, as it's never been "for the people, of the people, or by the people". Everytime they do "GOOD" for us, it always ends up costing us in one way or another. They like to take our tax dollars to support THEIR ideas, yet don't want to take care of their responsibilities to us, much less represent us. Their loyalty is to corporate America, the rest of us 98% get lip service & their contempt. That is, until Election Day. Suddenly guys like Bush wants to befriend Blacks & other minorities. SURRRRRRE HE DOES!!

Regarding hidden agendas, these are the same type of folks, whom seek to destroy anyone who calls their misdeeds out. This is the same government which accuses anyone who disagree with an unjust war, to be unpatriotic & unsupportive of the troops. So, even when they're wrong, they want us to act like they're right & sit in silence.

This is the same government who had no problem with infecting a segment of a minority community with syphillis (without their knowledge) & observing them to see was would happen, as though they were some damn science project. As you look back into history, womens rights, Kent State, etc., there is a long litany of this type of behavior, perpetrated on citizens, by our government. That's why I don't trust them. Fool me once, shame on you...Fool me 5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12 times.........

As to the E-z pass & ATM cards. There were a few cases where they tracked down people accused of crimes through their use of E-z pass & ATM cards. While these things were originally designed for convenience, we soon learned just how they could be used to track our movements.

A few years ago, the news did a feature. What they did was follow a man around & tracked through the use of his various cards. Anytime he used one of his cards, it registered his movements, where he was, what he spent & how much he spent. It showed just how easy it was to be tracked by using these cards.

In one case here in N.Y., a transit worker was accused of murder. He maintained that he was nowhere in the vicinity of the crime. Guess how they caught him? They checked his Transit pass, which showed that he got on the bus at a certain stop, at a certain time & that placed him squarely in the vicinity of the murder. Since he claimed to be nowhere near there & the card showed that he was in the vicinity, he was arrested for murder.

Now, imagine if he had lost his pass & someone found it & used it. Now, imagine if the person who found it was actually the murderer. If he hadn't reported the pass as lost or stolen, he still would have caught hell, because they would have said that he was reporting it lost after the fact & was trying to create an alibi. That possibility alone, has the potential to be dangerous.
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~medusa~ (~medusa)
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Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2004 - 8:19 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

...speaking of (so~called) minorities, I notice in each & every debate I've watched, when the subject comes up about African~(americans), a whole lot of word stumbling goes on and nothing is really actually uttered (from Bush or Kerry)regarding people of African decent, who built this nation.

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