By SB (206.214.2.154) on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 05:01 pm:

What ever happened to the artist(s) that may have had the �One or Two Hit Wonder, and then disappeared? Said artist(s) had a hit record or two � but never developed his or her talent to follow up. Were talents being wasted � or did it have more to do w/being at the right palce at the right time, promotion or financial backing, for instance?

In watching the �Malcolm X� movie � when Malcolm mentions �West Indian Archie�, and how he never wrote a number down, because he could remember numbers like nobody�s business. And if not for some unfortunate circumstances and fate itself � he could have been a great mathematician, or cured cancer.

In the movie � �A Bronx Tale�, the main character of the movie also mentions that the gangster he idolized � wasted his talent � by choosing the path he chose. The gangster went to prison at one point for ten years, and like Malcolm, read some heavy stuff, and gained a deep intelligence.

The main character's father had taught him about how important it was not to waste one�s talent. When the gangster is lying in his casket � �C� touches his head � and says � �Wasted talent.�

I often wondered what happened to the group �The Temprees�, and why they didn�t continue recording. Why didn�t Archie Bell & The Drells - stay at it? Both groups were really good to me. Whatever happened to Freddie Jackson? I know what happened to Michael Henderson, after reading up on him a week or so ago. Whatever happened to the "SOS" band?

And you DC, MD & VA folks, remember "The Trouble", band? Those fellows were great. They put the GoGo in "Go Go", bands. I suppose Rap just kicked the Go Go to the curb. But I used to love that sound.

I mentioned �The Young Rascals.� Whatever happened to them? Whatever happened to Ray Parker Jr.? I truly used to enjoy his voice. Why did such female artists like Barbara Mason drop off? And where is Stephanie Mills? I used to love their voices. And where is Anita Baker? I know Stephanie & Anita had success � but where are they now? I know I�ve wondered about more � but can�t think of them now.

Are there any artist(s) that you wished would have kept at it � and that you yearned to hear from again.

What artist(s), have you wondered about, as it pertains to why they didn�t develop the talent said artist(s) seemed to possess?

In other words, whatever happened to?

By STUBASS (205.188.209.109) on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 05:03 pm:

HEY SB!!!...I THINK THAT SPYDER TURNER COULD BE THE POSTER BOY FOR "WASTED TALENT"!!!...HAD HIS *HUGE* HIT..."STAND BY ME"...AND SORT OF SPIRALLED DOWNHILL AFTER THAT!!!...STU

By Funkyone D J Dollar BILL (216.221.81.96) on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 05:39 pm:

He'll be playing Greektown Casino soon.I never knew that was him singing "The Glow" on Berry Gordy's The Last Dragon.He has a link to Soulful on his web site and says he drops in from time to time.

By STUBASS (152.163.252.68) on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 05:55 pm:

CERTAINLY NO ATTEMPT ON MY PART TO IN ANY WAY DENIGRATE SPYDER...AND HE CERTAINLY HAD LOTS OF TALENT...IT IS UNFORTUNATE THOUGH...THAT FOR WHATEVER REASONS...HE NEVER REACHED THE LEVEL OF SUCCESS THAT HIS TALENT DICTATED...AND IT'S HARD TO ARGUE WITH THAT!!!...STU

By Eli (151.197.31.117) on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 06:03 pm:

SB,
Several things come into play regarding the "wasted talent" syndrome and it has got nothing to do with talent.
Sometimes there are a lot of things behind the scenes that the general public knows nothing of.
The Temprees were with the Stax orginization during a very bad period in the labels history and at the verge of bankrupcy.

As far as Trouble Funk goes the GoGo scene of DC never caught on on a national level and they were with a label who could not take them any further.

In some cases it is ego problems that cause a group to break up or an act to lose favor.

Barbara Mason changed management.

The public can be fickle and tastes change like the weather.

By SB (206.214.2.154) on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 06:09 pm:

JSmith wrote:

"Just learnt that Ray is about to undertake some UK / European gigs as a member of the reformed Crusaders.

Wilton, Joe (I believe) & Ray plus Randy Crawford are doing a posh black tie event in Ascot near Windsor (where the Queen's castle is) in a few days. "


Sorry and thanks JSmith. I thought I'd seen a thread w/Ray's name.

I just answered one of my questions about where Ray Parker Jr. was. I had been meaning to read the thread - but forgot. My bad as always. And it's good to hear that he is back in the game.

Now what was that song by the Four Tops. "This Is A Game Called Love." (Used to love it) Whoohoo.

By Scratcher (65.238.127.177) on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 06:14 pm:

Many artists fade out of music because they have to take nine to five jobs to survive when they realized they weren't going to get anything from their recording companies.

Many never got the backing or support to go on the road and make money and many who did got ripped off by promoters and club owners and eventually said F%&$ it!

I truly respect artists like the O'Jays and the Spinners cause both somehow hung in there when they had every reason to quit. Both groups were out there more than 10 years before either made any significant money.

Some artists always worked and weren't about to give up their day jobs until the right scenario cameabout, which more than often, never did.

By SB (206.214.2.154) on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 06:18 pm:

Eli - you go boy! I am impressed that you have heard of the Trouble Band - and you are certainly right in your assessment - for they definitley had the local flavor thing going for them. We used to love and hail them.

And - I can also dig the fact, and as you stated - that the Temprees weren't propelled forward, because of their record company. (Wrong place - wrong time) Bankrupcy will certainly put a damper and crook in things. Too bad they weren't picked up by another company.

Many thanks.

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 07:14 pm:

SB:
I'm with Scratcher on the reasons why many groups fade into the sunset.

If I may answer regarding the (Young) Rascals, the group was fighting Atlantic Records for their creative freedom, which they received yet in small doses. When their songs become more introspective and creative ("Heaven" and "Ray Of Hope"), Atlantic responded by not promoting these records to their fullest. By the time they released "Carry Me Back" & "Glory Glory" - which were more "soulful" in the eyes of the label powers - the Rascals had enough and wanted to leave the label.

At the same time, Felix Cavalierie & Eddie Brigatti stopped writing together - Felix wanted to write more serious and adventurous material while Eddie felt the soul bag was more appropriate. This led to discord between the two which sadly remains to this day.

When the Rascals were offered a deal with Columbia Records, only Felix and drummer Dino Dannelli were left from the original group - Eddie and guitarist Gene Cornish parted from the band. Felix & Dino formed a new Rascals and went for a more progressive sound, even though they were warned by the head of CBS' music publishing division (a former teen-idol and soon to be leader of Dawn named Tony Orlando) that this "new sound" was a big mistake and that they should - guess what - stick to what made them successful.

The Felix & Dino-led Rascals recorded two albums for Columbia Records. Both flopped and the group disbanded in 1973.

As for Anita Baker, she went into "semi-retirement" to have a family. She is now the mother of two sons.

She appeared on the CBS Morning Show early this year singing "Giving You The Best That I Got" and performed two sold-out shows at Long Island, NY's Westbury Music Fair. She has been offered record deals from Blue Note, Verve & Def Jam's Classic Soul label.

Kevin Goins - KevGo

By MGBS (66.72.195.216) on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 10:02 pm:

Saw The Crusaders Wednesday night. Ray Parker
was indeed there and closed the show with
what else, "Who you gonna call......."

By Soul Sister (68.73.167.246) on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 11:20 pm:

Kev-Go;
There is more to Anita Baker's disapearrence, but I won't get into that here, perhaps one day privately.
S.S.

By Eli (141.152.255.216) on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 11:34 pm:

SB,

The person responsible for putting out Trouble Funk was named Maxx Kidd and he as well as Chuck Brown who is considered the "granddady of go go" are friends of mine from back in the day.
In fact I used to travel to DC quite often as the lady who co-wrote many of the hits with me , Vinnie Barrett is from DC (PG county) and her daughter who is my Goddaughter just got signed to a major and is awaiting the release of her first cd.
She is a former dancer with Prince and has appeared in quite a few music videos and tv shows.

By David Meikle (81.130.211.124) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 04:01 am:

Sounds like this is the guy who worked at Shrine in Washington DC.

By Ritchie (62.254.0.9) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 04:06 am:

At the risk of causing a riot, may I suggest J. J. Barnes... a man whose many talents have been rewarded with much less success than they truly deserve?

By JoB (204.42.12.2) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 04:39 am:

SB...I am from DC, and I know exactly what you mean when you mention go-go music...I miss it too. Nothing got my behind shakin' faster as a teenager than a good go-go band. Also, referring to Anita Baker (who happens to be one of my favorite artists, her greatest hits CD--it NEVER leaves my CD changer), I have been wondering where she has been for years. I know she took a break to concentrate on family life, but yeah, I think it's about time for that comeback.
In answer to your question, my list of "wasted talent" is too long for this forum, but just to name a few:

The hundreds of GREAT singers and musicians who lost their lives to drugs, alcohol, or just plain TRAGEDIES (like plane crashes, getting shot, etc.)
---and it always seems to be the most promising ones, too...

By medusa9e2003 (66.73.7.240) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 07:56 am:

There was a Guy (singer), I believe he made at least one album. A lot of his material came from Motown, although he was on another record label (I believe it was Capitol). The Single he made popular was "Just Call" his name was 'Sherrick.' He died living the life he chose, but he was a very good singer and he wrote some of his own stuff.

By medusa9e2003 (66.73.7.240) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 08:36 am:

Without mentioning names, SOME of our celebrities were quite young and came from not so rich enviroments, so they were hungry 4 Fortune & Fame ($$$)... again NO offense 2 anyone (as much as I loved the music). I think when fame comes at an early age 2 someone who really aren't prepared 4 it, it can B a disaster,...again ...when I look back, a lot of the young celebrities (as they say back N the day), they were very talented, it's 2 bad they weren't educated about the business side of Fortune & Fame, instead of 2 much glitter & glamour...and I don't say this 2 criticize anyone...but then again,it's even worse 2 day (BIG music-business-industry...NO/Talent)oops
I really respect the ones that passed it on and
lasted so long and R still around 2 talk about it...Experience is the best teacher,when one learns from their mistake, and make that change...

By DF (24.90.9.138) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 08:58 am:

Stephanie Mills was NOT a one hit wonder. She put out quite a few good albums under Mtume/Lucas Productions. Neither was Ray Parker, Jr. Before Ghostbusters:

1) he was a very successful, first call session Guitarist. That little staccato style vibrato he used to do in the high register (can't explain it any other way) was his signature sound. Example of this was The Originals "Down To Love Town", and Jean Luc Ponty's "Fight For Life" (Album 'Upon The Wings Of Music').

2) He had a very good R&B group called Raydio, putting out gems such as "Jack and Jill" and "Ya Can't Change That".

I wonder if Anita Baker's issue (stepping away)was a combination of family and disgust with the industry.

By RD (63.188.33.136) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 09:08 am:

One Hit Wonders cameabout more from lack of any enrichment (monies) from their one hit than anything else. Many artists refuse to record and waited out their contracts when recording companies didn't pay them; many never ventured down that road again. Sonny Turner who sang lead for the Platters on "I Love You A Thousand Times," "With This Ring" and "Washed Ashored" is a prime example. He never got compensated properly by the label and didn't record again for about 30 years. He kept entertaining but recording was not on his things to do list anymore. Ditto for the Hesitations who recorded four albums for Kapp Records and never had anything to show for it. Their living conditions didn't change until they got 9 to 5 jobs. If properly paid and accounted to many artists who faded from the business would have stayed around longer.

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 10:50 am:

If I may add to DF's post regarding Stephanie & Ray:
1) Prior to Stephanie's successful run with 20th Century Fox/Casablanca/MCA Records, she recorded one album for Motown during her run in "The Wiz" which was produced by Burt Bacharach. I saw Stephanie ten years ago at the Beacon Theatre in a revivial of "The Wiz" and she was absolutely fantastic.

2) Ray Parker was also one of two lead guitarists in Barry White's Love Unlimited Orchestra. The "staccato style" that DF refers to can be heard on LUO's hits "Love's Theme" and "Satin Soul". From what Stubass has said, Ray is still alive & well and has probably made enough $ in his years to spend time raising his family.

Kevin Goins - KevGo

By stephanie (64.63.221.90) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 10:57 am:

A friend of mine saw Stephanie Mills with Ashford and Simpson and Chaka Khan last week in Boston, MA and said Stephanie was the best act!!!! She also told the audience she is coming out with a new CD so she is definitely still around for the poster who wanted to know what she is doing.
Stephanie

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 11:01 am:

JoB:
When Anita Baker appeared on the CBS Morning Show earlier this year, she looked fabulous. She wore wire-rimmed glasses, a black blouse and slacks. She sang "Giving You The Best That I Got" and her voice sounded as good if not better than when she recorded the song in 1989. She later performed two sold-out shows at the Westbury Music Fair in Long Island, NY. I hope she gets a label deal soon - a colleague told me that Blue Note was interested in signing her, then supposedly Def Jam's Classic Soul division was interested as well (geez, can we say "bidding war!").

Soul Sister:
My info was straight from Anita's interview on CBS' Morning Show - she wanted to take time off to have a family and after a miscarriage she had her sons. If you know anything to the contrary, please email me directly.

Kevin Goins - KevGo

By R&B (138.238.41.118) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 12:43 pm:

THINK OF THE TALENT THAT WE HAVE LOST TO DRUGS AND OTHER SENSELESS NONSENSE,SO TO ME WHEN AN ARTIST LETS DRUGS OR OTHER DISTRUCTIVE ISSUES DESTROY THEIR TALENT AND CAREERS,THEN THAT IS WASTED TALENT!

By RD (63.188.32.158) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 01:49 pm:

Yea R&B but the artists lost to drugs usually aren't the One Hit Wonders SB started this thread about. Surely, some may have become druggies after their recording stints but she wanted to know about the artists you hear one of two big hits from then nothing else. In their cases it's usually the unsavory business practices that make them seek other ways to make a living.

By Soul Sister (68.73.167.246) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 02:49 pm:

Stephanie Mills can kick butt, she is an awesome live performer!

Kev-Go;
She sure ain't gonna go public! Its about 86ing, I will e-mail you later when I finish my day.
Take Care,
S.S.

By M.McLeanTech (66.159.217.232) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 04:13 pm:

Andre Williams
Gino Parks
Henry Lumpkin
Mabel John
Sammy Ward
Popcorn Wylie
Cornell Blakely
Shorty Long

By SB (205.186.129.159) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 04:44 pm:

Hey Y'all.

I mentioned one hit wonders - and then went on to ask in general about what happened to certain artists. I know Anita - Stephanie and Ray - were not just one hit wonders. Sorry if I didn't clarify. Thank you all for your input. You all know so much � and I am touched that you do and are willing to share.

I am glad Anita is coming back. I think she has a unique voice and style, and IMO - she really lays it on the line when she performs.

Of course - we know that drugs brought a lot of the artists down - along w/so many other calamities. Eli and others made some great points - for we know that it wasn't just drugs that did some artists in. There are many adjectives that can be used to describe what happened to many. Jealousy - lack of planning and ego are just a few.

Eli - I forgot to mention Chuck Brown. And that man was another one that gave his all in bringing it to the people. A friend of mine told me that when he attended one of Trouble�s shows - he went to his car for something and didn't return for about 15 minutes. The same song that was playing when he left - was still playing when he got back. LOL! Those Go Go bands knew they could play some long numbers.

I heard "Fire", (Ohio Players) on the way to work this morning on the Tom Joyner show. IMO - one can hear a little Go Go in that song. I truly believe that Go Go sort of rose up from the Funk. Chuck used to sing - but at times - my man was truly rapping. Sam Cooke was quoted as saying that a song should tell a story. He said - that it should seem as if one is just rapping to an audience. And I understand Berry felt the same way. Our folks have actually been rapping since the slave days � if one were to think about it for real.

I also heard Graham Central Station on my way home. The song was "Your Love." I used to love that.

And for the life of me - I can't remember the name of the man that made the song - "We're In This Love Together." (We got the kind that lasts forever). I'm still slapping my hand because I can't think of his name - though it is right on the tip of my tongue. I heard that one on my way home.

JoB and R&B - I know you remember Stacey Lattisaw (sp?). Whatever happened to her? P Diddy was one of her back up dancers. And remember the song "Can't Let Go?" Remember, they made it as a 33 or something like that? It was the only song on one side of the album, and I have it. I'll get back later w/the name of the singer(s).

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 04:47 pm:

SB:
"We're In This Love Together" was recorded by Al Jarreau. He has a current CD available and tours occasionally.
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By Eli (141.151.74.79) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 04:58 pm:

SB,

Chuck Brown is also one heluva good jazz guitar player and singer too and he discovered cult favorite the late Eva Cassidy!!

By medsua9e2003 (66.73.15.214) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 08:23 pm:

R&B,
U really hit the nail on the head. I wanted 2 bring that up, what U did say about some of our artists with the drug problems etc., but I was kinda reluctant...due 2 the fact that I thought someone would try 2 come through my monitor and N my face...so I cleaned it up quite well,(don't U think?) but U said exactly what I really wanted 2 add on ...I'm really afraid of offending someone/anyone on this forum ...then having 2 defend myself,so I try not 2 say it like I really want 2...If I don't start nothing, then it wont B nothing

By Scratcher (65.238.127.209) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 08:39 pm:

Recording artists who careers took a dive because of drugs have been cited on this forum many times in the past. Most of the accounts are well known, or should be, to all because they made the media: Sly Stone, David Ruffin, Ohio Players, Bobby Womack, Smokey Robinson, Natalie Cole, Dennis Edwards, Frankie Lymon, Patti Drew and on and on. I didn't feel the need to keep putting these people's name on websites for their past deeds so I and some others opt for the One Hit Wonder question. Drugs usually played no part in the demise of One Hit Wonders because most were not in the business long enough.

By SB (205.186.129.77) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 08:53 pm:

KevGo - thank you hipping me to the name of the singer I was trying to remember. "It Was Right On The Tip Of My Tongue", but I forgot to say - Al Jarreau. He was another unique singer - but weren't most of them - for the most part?

And whateva happened to Pheobe Snow? She was unique too.

By JoB (204.42.12.2) on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 04:20 am:

...SB...wow I haven't heard HER name in years...yeah I remember Stacy Lattisaw, she made some good songs to dance to, can't think of the names right now. Wonder what's she's been up to lately...

KevGo...that's just great to hear about Anita, wish I had seen that episode. I've always thought she was really pretty with a real ladylike quality about her. And WHATEVER company she signs with, I hope it's soon, believe me that's one CD that is long overdue...

By RD (63.188.33.148) on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 07:51 am:

Nothing has happened to Phoebe Snow. She's still active, gigs all the time, and released a new CD last month.

By Wonder B (81.51.205.247) on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 09:16 am:

JoB, Stacy Lattisaw had huge hits in the early 80's with stuff like 'Jump To The Beat', 'Dynamite' and other Narada Walden produced songs... she also did an album with the very young Johnny Gill and had a fair hit with 'Block Party'...

SB and the others, I don't know why you are using a past tense to speak of GoGo Music and Chuck Brown... both are pretty much alive if you go to DC... Just check the special GoGo section at the local Tower Records and you'll see why I am posting this... many curretn bands are still recording. And if Trouble Funk doesn't seem active right now E.U still is and they had the biggest GoGo hit ever with 'Da Butt'...
A little under a year ago there was a double DVD which was released called "Put Your Hands Up Tribute to Chuck Brown"... It featured bands like Experience Unlimited, 911, Backyard Band one one DVD and Chuck and his band and friends on the other. It was a Chuck Birthday Party filmed in DC and let me tell you it's awesome... he starts the set with a (modified LOL) cover version of Grover Washington's 'Mister Magic'... Let's not forget that Chuck's first LP came out around 1973 on the Sussex label ("We The People" was it's title, with a great version of the J.Brown's penned 'Think') and he did another LP for the same label called "Salt of the Earth" before signing to Source Records for the now classic "Bustin Loose" album. That title song is said to have started the GoGo movement... I don't know for sure but I have been buying GoGo ever since!

KevGo, Stephanie Mills even had an LP before the Motown album, it was on the ABC label and it is very hard to come by these days... it is called "Movin' In The Right Direction".
After that one she did "For The First Time" on Motown and switched to 20ieth Century Records for the following album but another Motown LP was later released, to capitalize on her new found fame, called "Love Has Lifted Me".
I saw her a few years ago at the Greek Theater (sold-out!) in L.A opening for The O'Jays and she was fantastic... what a great and powerful voice coming out of such a small body! LOL

Wonder B

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 11:09 am:

SB:
Ditto regarding Phoebe Snow. She & Michael McDonald gave a benefit concert here in NYC. My boss attended & said that Phoebe did a killer version of "At Last". She left the audience begging for more.

I also must agree with Wonder B regarding the Go-Go scene. The label I work for has reissued two albums-worth of Trouble Funk material from their indie days as well as a full-length CD. Also, if the rap/hip-hop/R&B community keep using "Pump It Up" and other TF tunes for their beats, Trouble Funk won't have to work another day in their lives (I'm sure Chuck Brown had a Merry Christmas when Nelly snagged "Bustin' Loose" for "Hot In Herre").

Regards,
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By Davie Gordon (193.122.21.26) on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 11:10 am:

David,

"The person responsible for putting out Trouble Funk was named Maxx Kidd and he as well as Chuck Brown who is considered the "granddady of go go" are friends of mine from back in the day"
(from Bobby)

It's the same Max Kidd as at Shrine

Davie

By janebse (68.63.4.162) on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 07:52 pm:

It takes so many qualities to be a top artist and have longevity.

1. Hard work -- that old thing we call the work ethic -- which must done year after year
2. Self-discipline -- be able to avoid temptations such as drugs, alcohol, ego problems,

I think everyone could add the other qualities that are necessary. Talent and ability are probably only 10 percent, if that, of achieving lifelong SUCCESS. These qualities are not just essential in the artistic fields but in any endeavor.

By SB (205.186.129.183) on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 08:25 pm:

janebse - you make a good point by mentioning that Talent & Ability aren't the only things needed to keep an artist afloat and in the game. I was trying to get to that shore - but missed that boat in my mind.

You all are flooring me talkin' about "GO GO." Thanks to all of you for responding. I already told y'all that I was not up to par on who is still who in the music scene per se. Here - here to the "Go Go" bands.

Wonder B - I had no clue that "Go Go" was still a go going strong. Absolutely no clue! I have not heard any of it on the radio - but I will check out what you spoke on. And you know I remember "Da Butt." I was trying to think of that song. Wow!

And "Dynamite" & "Jump To The Beat", by Stacey were the songs I was trying to remember - but couldn't. They were really good songs.

KevGo - "Bustin' Loose." was a smash hit - although when hearing it in the Nelly song - I didn't put two and two together.

"Go Go" music was the type of music that would make me want to get up and dance like no other. I stopped caring about dancing for the most part at a certain point in my life - because we danced so much in Germany - until when I got back to the States - the same desire was not present. But "Go Go" would make me want to shake my tail feather.

Needless to say - I had no clue that Pheobe Snow was still performing. I am glad she is still in the game. One of my girlfriends used to own all of her material back in the day.

It's also good to know that Stephanie is still groovin' also. She has a fantastic voice.

Too much!

Ok then - why aren't these artists being heard on the airwaves - or am I just not listening to the right radio stations? Yet - I suppose if one is truly interested in keeping up w/a particular artist - one just needs to look for the Internet hook-up. I intent to do more of that indeed.

Thanks y'all.

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 08:33 pm:

SB:
Within the first verse of "Hot In Herre", Nelly raps "I feel like bustin' loose, I think I'm gonna bust loose, I say..." then he goes into the "chorus".

The song is also in the same tempo as "Bustin' Loose".

And yes, Chuck Brown has a songwriting credit in "Hot In Herre".

Kevin Goins - KevGo

By DetroitDar (198.81.26.170) on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 11:24 pm:

Phoebe Snow is one of the vocalists scheduled to appear with the Funk Brothers in Southern CA this month! (see Funk Brothers in Milwaukee thread)

By 1Wicked (24.126.64.120) on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 03:50 am:

Phoebe Snow, after giving birth to a handicapped child, decided that her priorities were at home and reduced her work load. She would do jingles and appear on stage periodically...but nothing that would take her away from home for any extended period. If she's touring...that (hopefully) means that life has taken a very positive turn.

Stacy Lattisaw is said to have retired from show business. She is now married and has also become a minister. (I think she still resides in the D.C. area)

Go-Go may have left the radio (outside of D.C.)..but it's still goin' strong !! I was in retail record when Chuck Brown, Trouble Funk, and Slim made some national waves....and I can honestly say that the Go-Go phenomenon was the only thing bigger than P-Funk at the time !

By SB (206.215.13.197) on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 05:28 pm:

Ok - you smartie pants and skirts - whatever happened to Jeffrey Osbourne? I heard "Where Did We Go Wrong", on my way home today. I used to love that song and his voice.

I also heard the song - "There's Something In The Air" (Baby). (How do I know I love her - baby?) (Maybe it's the way she wears her hair) I can't remember that man's name for the life of me.

1Wicked - thanks for sharing about Stacey being a minister. I'm not sure I had heard that - but Kudos to her for real. And may God continue to bless her and hers. I used to work w/her first cousin in the early eighties.

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 06:31 pm:

SB:
Jeffery Osbourne has a new CD that's in stores now, released on his own record label and distributed by Koch Records here in NYC.
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By STUBASS (152.163.252.68) on Friday, July 04, 2003 - 12:04 am:

HEY SB!!!...WHILE I DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING THAT JEFFERY OSBOURNE HAS BEEN UP TO OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS...I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY CALL HIM "WASTED TALENT"!!!...HE'S HAD A NICE CAREER...SOLD MANY RECORDS...AND HAS...TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE...STEERED CLEAR OF ANY KIND OF TROUBLE THAT WOULD TARNISH HIS IMAGE!!!...PERHAPS...LIKE RAY PARKER JR....HE IS JUST CHILLIN AND REORGANIZING!!!...HOPEFULLY...THE NEW CD THAT KEVGO HAS MENTIONED...CONTAINS SOME NICE MATERIAL...AND WILL BE A COMMERCIAL SUCCESS!!!...STUBASS

By SB (205.187.255.122) on Friday, July 04, 2003 - 09:41 am:

STUBASS - now you know I never meant to imply that Jeffrey had wasted his talent. At the end of my initial post - I asked in general - "What Eva Happened To?" I should have started a different thread for that question - I concede now in retrospect. Now!

I still say - that I haven't heard music by some of these artists we are speaking about on the radio. What is up w/that? And I'm talking about on the stations that don't play any rap music.

Are the radio hosts/DJs just not willing to play these artists songs - or are they not being promoted right? I can imagine that I would truly enjoy whateva Jeffrey and others mentioned here would release.

I almost got the name of the artist I was trying to think of that made "There's (Something In The Air)." Wasn't his name, Howard something?

By 1Wicked (24.126.64.120) on Friday, July 04, 2003 - 03:10 pm:

Stu: Jeffery Osborne is getting airplay locally on Stevie's KJLH...which seems to be the only station willing to play such artists. Another "hit" on their playlist is a buried track from a Maze CD approx. 2 or more old. In the *new* "pay to play" (barely skirting the laws regarding payola)) radio world pioneered by Clear Channel, it's almost impossible to break a new artist or get airplay from a Classic Soul artist if you don't have the budget to grease the "Consultant's" palm who then greases the Program Director's palm...or just gives the $$$ to the station, which is received under some miscellaneous account. Assuming quality is not a secondary issue...that's why you haven't heard the newest releases from Kool & The Gang, Ray Goodman & Brown, and others as well. (AND you have to get them from the artists website because the record stores won't carry them...)

By Soul Sister (65.43.167.42) on Friday, July 04, 2003 - 04:01 pm:

1Wicked;
OK tried all your e's 1/2 a dozen times none worked so you'll have to just wait on that, got give it up now.
SoultiredSister

By Heikki (62.71.79.239) on Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 05:46 am:

Hi!
I just listened for the first time the new Jeffrey Osborne cd, Music Is Life on JayOz (right, KevGo, his own label), but similarly to the recent Miles Jaye cd I was disappointed. His magnificent voice is still there and there are a couple of nice new slow songs, but he too is wooing too much the young r&b generation and not giving enough attention to his old fans. When working between the two fronts, you're bound to lose the both. I don't hear any hit song on the cd.
Best regards
Heikki

By 1Wicked (24.126.64.120) on Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 02:20 pm:

SoulSister...got it yesterday !! Much thanks! "You'se guys" are a great looking couple !!

By Soul Sister (65.43.167.42) on Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 02:35 pm:

1Wicked;
Good and Thanks! Let me know which one of the e's worked? By the way in case you didn't know that's singer Freddie Cole & gituarist Joe Beck in the background. It was taken at the recording session for "But Beautiful" CD. See ya'in L.A.!
S.S.