By medusa9e2003 (66.73.12.102) on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 09:09 pm:

Have any of U ever noticed how some vocalists sound alike (2 U)?? Here R some singers that sound alike 2 me~~
Jaheim, Miles Jaye,Colonel Abrams & Leader Of the Dells~ sound like Teddy Pendergrass
Oleta Adams ~ sounds like EJ Johnson (Enchantement)
(New Artist)Donnie ~ sounds like Donny Hathaway and Al Jarreau
KC(Jodeci)~sounds like Bobby Womack
Montel JOrdan~sounds like Michael Jackson(on one particular song, can't remember the name)
(we all know)Gerald Levert~sounds like his Dad Eddie
Eryka Badu~sounds a bit like Lady Day
I think Rueben Studdard(american Idol)sounds more like Barry White than Luther
...2 Me...

By STUBASS (152.163.252.68) on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 09:14 pm:

I GOTTA TELL YOU MED...THAT LISTENING TO BRIAN MCNIGHT THE OTHER DAY DOING A STEVIE WONDER TUNE...SOUNDED AWFULLY AUTHENTIC!!!...STU

By Nish (170.224.224.38) on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 09:19 pm:

early Smokey Robinson and Nolan Strong; Deon Jackson sounds KINDA like David Ruffin on certain parts of "Hard To Get A Thing Called Love" and like Smokey on "Ooh Baby."

Diana Ross - Stephanie Mills - Syreeta Wright

By STUBASS (152.163.252.68) on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 09:21 pm:

I DEFINITLY HEAR THE DIANA ROSS-STEPHANIE MILLS COMPARISON NISH!!!...STU

By Jim Feliciano in Detroit. (152.163.252.68) on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 09:58 pm:

Here's my 2 cents worth on this topic:

We are talking Detroit here, and the year was 1965....
Ric-Tic's own J. J. Barnes almost sounded quite like Motown's very own Marvin Gaye.

Anyone ever noticed both of these R&B vocals and of their close similarities, in there?

By STUBASS (152.163.252.68) on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 10:02 pm:

HEY JIM!!!...I'VE HEARD THAT COMPARISON MADE SEVERAL TIMES ON THIS FORUM!!!...MSUT BE SOMETHING TO IT!!!...IT'S ALSO BEEN SAID...THAT'S THE REASON THAT MOTOWN SHIED AWAY FROM J.J...BECAUSE HE SOUNDED TOO MUCH LIKE MARVIN!!!...STU

By Soul Sister (68.73.167.246) on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 10:08 pm:

Medusa9e;
Marvin Junior Lead singer of The Dells was Teddy Pendergass'idol and Teddybear patterned himself on Marvin Junior's style.
S.S.

By Soul Sister (68.73.167.246) on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 10:11 pm:

Eddie Holland souned like my man Jackie Wilson on "Jamie". But there is & was & always will be only öne"Jackie!

By Soul Sister (68.73.167.246) on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 10:13 pm:

Nish;
How about The 5 Stairsteps doing "Ooo Baby Baby"?
S.S.

By melandthensome (217.14.178.51) on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 10:19 pm:

Great call Soulsister
but Candy to me just pips Jamie for me.
I always thought that the singer Tiny Tim sounded like my dog with her paws stuck in a thorn bush.

Mel(tip-toeing outta-here)

By STUBASS (152.163.252.68) on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 10:22 pm:

MARVIN JUNIOR AND TEDDY...ALSO A GOOD CALL!!!...STUBASS

By Soul Sister (68.73.167.246) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 12:10 am:

Esther Phillips sounding like Dinah Washington on "What A Difference A Day Makes".

Nancy Wilson sounding like Jimmy Scott on "When Did You Leave Heaven", "Someone To Watch Over Me", & "The Masquerade Is Over".

Gerald Alston sounding like Sam Cooke on "Ä Change Is Gonna Come".

Sonny Turner sounding like Tony Williams on the classic Platter's songs.

By MEL&THEN SOME (81.174.192.42) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 12:50 am:

JJ Barnes and Steve Mancha
Donnie Elbert and Freddie Hughes
Sam Cooke and L.C.Cooke.
Frankie and the Classicals and The Mylestones.
Johnny Taylor(very early)and Sam Cooke.
Bobby Hendrix and Clyde McPhatter(only on drip drop)
Bob Brady and Smokey Robinson.
Ann Sexton and Rita Da Costa.
The Remarkables and The Incredibles.
Charles Perry and Jimmy Huff.
Bobby Patterson and Willie Hamilton.
The Oracles and The Orientals.
Mickey Lee Lane and Mitch Ryder.
The 4 Tempo's and Archie Bell and the Drell's.
The Combinations and the C.O.D.'s.
L.C.Cooke and Willie Hightower.
Bobby Coleman and Spooner Oldham.

Before anyone starts to rant and rave and disagree these are my personal opinions on some 45s that I have or have had over the years.

On the majority of the listed they only ever sounded similar on just one track whilst listening.

I always thought for example that when the Drifters did the classic "drip drop"
on Lead to me sounded a lot like Clyde McPhatter on that one track.

And the same with the others
all very reminiscent off each other,to me anyway.

Then again I thought Kell Osborne was in the Distants and not the Primes
so what do I know.

mel(sounding like Mario Lanza whilst in the bathroom)

By Ritchie (62.254.0.9) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 04:37 am:

Jamiroquai sounds like Stevie Wonder (if - heaven forbid - Stevie ever forgot how to sing in tune.)

By LostinSoul (172.201.243.189) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 06:26 am:

Roy Rogers and Gene Autry

By MEL&THEN SOME (217.14.178.44) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 06:30 am:

Mr Ed
and that donkey that spoke in that world war 2 film
cant remember his name.

mel

By MEL&THEN SOME (217.14.178.44) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 06:39 am:

The donkeys name was Francis
and was it donald o'connor with him.
mel

By Jim Feliciano in Detroit. (152.163.252.68) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 08:20 am:

Hey brother Mel,

'YO man, 'yo... listen up, nobody's gonna start "to rant and rave and disagree" with your personal selections, of that which you have fostered from your own opinion, savy?

...'Cause Mel, you 'da best, and then some!

One thing I know, is that no one COMPARES with you-- when it comes to matching those song COMPARISONS-- man dude, you are so "right-on" with that this moanin'.... :o]

By MEL&THEN SOME (217.14.178.33) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 08:47 am:

Jim
many thanks my fellow
spinner of those platters that so rightly matter.
I am quite flattered Jim as quite honestly bro'
your a top guy that sure knows where it's at(andthensome)

So Jim
I gotta go now and dig into my
platters that matter and dig out a rave from the grave,
a blast from the past,
an oldie,
yes
but get those dancin'shoes on
"cause it will be a god-damn Goldie.

Mel(slippin'an'a'slidin')

By Soul Sister (68.73.167.246) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 10:29 am:

Mel;
How about 'Strongheart'and 'Rin Tin Tin', two of my favorites (HE-HE-HE-HE-)!
Soul Sis.

By MEL&THEN SOME (217.14.178.81) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 10:47 am:

Soulsister
dont get me started now
I am daft enough as it is
mel
anyway there was also
wackey races legendary Ant hill mob
the mobs boss who sounded like
baby face nelson or was it
machine gun kelly,
oops there ya go Soulsister
done it again havent I.

okeh boy's
lets make wid da feet.

Seriously now
just spun
Derek Martins
"you better go"
and it sounded like he was a little bit
just in various parts like Brother Ray.

By Soul Sister (68.73.167.246) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 11:35 am:

Melandthensome;
You know that one is my favorite so don't get me started on what a UNDER rated soulful singer I think Derek is! Derek Martin where are you? Does anybody know where this fantastic voice is?

The most UNDER RATED Soul Singers:

Derek Martin (awesome vocals)
Walter Jackson (breathtaking voice)
Timothy Wilson (my friend, awesome talent)
Tony Drake (my brother, you are so great!)
Sammy"Baby"Ambrose (someone close to my heart that never got the recognition he deserved until it was too late, how sad.)
Joe Valentine (Love his record 'Í Can't Stand To See You Go'.)
Vivian Reed (love her record 'Ýours Until Tomorrow'.)
Linda Jones (Heartwrenching & Powerful!!)
Jimmy Scott (After seeing him, everyone falls in love with his music & HIM!!!)

See what you made me go do Mel! (Ha-ha-ha)SoullostinthemusicSister
OHH SUKEE SUKEE!!! Felix Hernandez is playing The Manhattans gotta go Mel!

By motownboy (64.170.50.18) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 11:46 am:

A somewhat obscure british female singer named Polly Browne who had a minor US hit in the mid 1970s with "Up In A Puff of Smoke" sounds very much like Jean Terrell on this track. She could also sound a lot like Dionne Warwick as evidenced on a track she recorded as part of a duo called Sweet Dreams. The song in question is called "Best of Everything" and it is actually an imitation of the Dionne/Spinners' sound on "Then Came You."

Anybody else famoliar with Polly Browne and noticed the similarity of her voice to Dionne Warwick & Jean Terrell?

By Nish (66.119.33.170) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 01:11 pm:

The Dionne Warwick-Jean Terrell comparison is right on. Jean is my vocal idol!!

S.S. - you done went and named one of my favorite renditions of "Ooh Baby Baby." Clarence sounds fantabulous. I also love the song done by the ESCORTS, HONEY CONE, PERFECT BLEND, and the MAGNIFICENT SEVEN. I'm always puzzled at the fact that no Motown rendition of "Ooh Baby Baby" has been unearthed yet. I thought perhaps Brenda or the Tempts could have possibly covered the song.

I agree with you on your list of underrateds, Tony Drake, Linda Jones and Jimmy Scott especially. I'd also have to add Patti Drew and Freddie Scott to the mix.

RE: Jimmy, I hear so many of my favorite tenors just borrowing copiously from the book of Jimmy, same with Nancy Wilson and a host of other jazz singers. He's got a phrasing style that is just out of sight, ALWAYS in the groove of the song, ALWAYS, but still creating his own time and playing around with the melody.

By Soul Sister (68.73.167.246) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 01:57 pm:

Hi Nish;
Your right on, what Jimmy does with time & space is uniquely his own. Behind the beat but always right on time, immpecable phrasing, clear as a bell voice, angelic, other worldly are phrases used by many to describe his style.
Have you heard the album produced by Ray Charles, "Falling In Love Is Wonderful" ? Or the "Lost & Found"CD ? Any of the Savoy stuff, or in recent years the grammy nominated "All The Way"CD ?
RE: Clarence Burke,Jr. I think his voice had a very special quality about it, lots of genuine feeling for a 16 year old at the time. They too(Stairsteps)should have got bigger & much more recognition.
Good Listing,
S.S.

By Nish (170.224.224.38) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 02:05 pm:

One thing about the five stairsteps - when I listen to them, I never think "young group." They don't sound like teeny boppers. I can only think of one song that has a teeny bopper slant to it, "Playgirl's Love." And Clarence Burke's voice is just precocious. And my heart completely STOPS when I hear him sing "If you really love me, let me be your fool." I mean, siiiigh, that is just a well sung line from "Come Back."

By Motownfan (65.238.58.108) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 02:14 pm:

Diana Ross and Syreeta. Similar voices and approach to a song. I've never seen Syreeta perform, so don't know is she resemebles La Ross in that respect?

By Soul Sister (68.73.167.246) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 02:19 pm:

Nish;
"You Waited Too Long" was the 1st. song on the radio I ever heard by them, I went right to the record store and bought it! Loved the B-side of the 45 too, "Don't Waste Your Time", then after "World Of Fantasy"came out and the LP, I went right out and bought it.
I went to a show at the Apollo and at a theater in Elizabeth, NJ who's name I can't recall or maybe it was Newark, we were in a huge shared dressingroom sitting right with them. The kids were running around acting like typical kids do, then they'd go onstage & perform like saavy adults. Only Papa Burke was there at that time. When Mama was at the Apollo show the kids seemed more quieter. Guess a mother's presence keeps kids on their best behavior! It was fun to watch them.
S.S.

By medua9e2003 (66.73.6.32) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 04:30 pm:

~~~Soul Sister, thanx 4 mentioning the under Rated Singers~ I would like 2 add the following~
EJ Johnson~ (Enchantment)
JAmes Epps~(Fantiastic 4)~(now deceased)
Glenn JOnes~(Melancholy Fire)
Englebert Humperdinck
Miles Jaye (He should B N Pic's)
Oleta Adams
Gerald Alston (Manhattans)
Ronnie Dyson
The Whispers
Sandra Fever
Rochell Ferrell
Tony Terry
Rocky Robbins
After 7
I also think the group 'Milestone' on the movie Soul Food,could've really made some serious sounds. The Group consisted of After 7 & KC & JoJo of (Jodeci)

By medusa9e2003 (66.73.6.32) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 04:35 pm:

...dang it, I 4got, none of the vocalists I named above sound alike....LOL
after all, sound a likes is what this Topic suppose 2 B about, oh well....

By Edgar (200.46.12.159) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 04:41 pm:

Brotherly Love and the Jackson 5.
Don't see (hear?) the Diana Ross-Syreeta resemblance (I like both singers.) Susaye Greene may sound like Syreeta, though.

By Soul Sister (68.73.167.246) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 05:27 pm:

Medusa9e;
I have to agree with your list, many deservant of more recognition. Forgot my dear friend Gerald Alston, he has lots of recognition as lead singer of the Manhattans since "Smitty"passed, but certainly not enough as the great solo artist he is in his own right. Good work Sister Angel Medusa9e! Keep em'coming.
S.S.

By Soul Sister (68.73.167.246) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 05:31 pm:

Medusa9e;
Forgot to mention I met & talked with Oleata Adams on two shows we did with variuos artists for a tribute to Billie Holiday. Oleata is not only a talented singer, & accomplished pianist but a beautiful human being and very spiritual person too. I really dug her.
S.S.

By MEL&THEN SOME (217.14.178.68) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 05:35 pm:

Listen to Roy Hamiltons
"cracking up over you"
on RCA Records
then listen to Elvis Presley

Mel(not cracking up,yet)

By John Lester (217.40.234.9) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 05:48 pm:

Smokey comparisons

Dont Wanna Play Pajama Games....I think G C Cameron sounds more Smokey than Smokey!

I also constantly imagine Smokey singing when I hear Mary Wells on some of her early Motown productions.

Brenda Holloway is virtually mimicing Smokey on "My Baby Moves Me"

Even Martha Reeves gets close to Smokey on her versions of Tracks of my Tears and Give Her (Him) Up (the song on the Special Occasion LP). Martha has a very soothing sexy quality when she sings in that style

By stephanie (64.63.221.245) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 05:57 pm:

I thought I was the only one that Dionne Warwick and Jean Terrell are similar good call..
Stephanie

By Vickie (198.81.26.170) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 06:08 pm:

No one sounds like Tammi!!!

By David Meikle (62.252.128.6) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 07:46 pm:

Medusa

Rockie Robbins "I believe in love" is a classic tune.

I had his first 3 albums.

Not knocking, but I'm amazed that you bring in Engelbert over others.

You cats know what you're sayin'/doin', so I won't complain!

By stephanie (64.63.221.99) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 08:13 pm:

I know one we would ALL agree with Felice Taylor and the Barry White song "It May Be Winter Outside" TELL me that doesnt sound like Diana Ross..
Stephanie

By Nish (66.119.33.170) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 10:15 pm:

If you listen to Richard Street's performance on "You Share The Blame" when he was with the Elgins, that is a Smokey vocal thru and thru.

By Nish (66.119.33.170) on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 10:15 pm:

That should read MONITORS, not ELGINS

By Rhythm and Blues Showcase (151.204.38.119) on Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 03:22 pm:

Eddie Kendricks and Damon Harris
Russell Thompkins Jr, Eban Brown and Jordan Knight
David Ruffin and Garfield Flemming
Barry White and Siddiq
Teddy Pendergrass and Gilbert Saunders
Ali Woodson and the lead singer of Solo

By medusa9e2003 (66.73.3.96) on Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 03:38 pm:

Hi David,

I think we kinda got off the REAL Topic, and started naming under rated vocalists and I did mention Englebert Humperdinck. I think he's great vocalists and I think he was very under rated...(I still Love "After The Lovin'")

Rhythm & Blues Showcase!
The Lead singer N the group Solo was named
Darnell (& sometimes they would change over and the other Guy was named Eunique). 2 bad they didn't last long.

By medusa9e2003 (66.73.3.96) on Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 03:41 pm:

...oh, and David! U R Not complaining. I started the Topic, and I ended up on another subject while agreeing with Soul Sister about under rated singers, (instead of sound a like singers)
~~~~not good~~~~sorry!

By DJ (130.156.140.2) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 12:34 am:

Little Sonny in the Intruders and Bobby Starr of the Intruders

By STUBASS (152.163.252.68) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 12:59 am:

I ALMOST HATE TO SAY THIS...BUT COMPARE WILSON PICKETT TO OTIS REDDING!!!...YES...WILSON IS MORE *WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH*...AND OTIS IS MORE *WOAHWOAHWOAHWOAH* (CAN YOU DIG IT???...)...BUT ON SOME OF OTIS'S MORE UPTEMPO MATERIAL...LIKE "RESPECT"..."MR. PITIFUL"...AND "CAN'T TURN YOU A-LOOSE"...WILSON MAY HAVE PULLED IT OFF JUST FINE...EXCEPT REMEMBER THAT OTIS *WROTE* ALL THAT STUFF!!!...ON OTIS'S MORE INTROSPECTIVE MATERIAL...LIKE "LOVING YOU TOO LONG"...AND "TRY A LITTLE TENDERNESS"..,.ONLY OTIS COULD BE OTIS!!!...AGREE???...DISAGREE???...STU(DAMN...THIS OTIS S%#& HAS ME *ALL* WOUND UP)BASS

By DrewJ (195.93.50.10) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 04:03 pm:

Here's an obscure one! Betty Turner - Be careful girl. Sounds like Florence ballard leading the Supremes. (In fact if you listen closely to the backing vocals there is also a striking similarity to Mary in there!) You could almost cover it up as a lost Supremes Northern soul track!

Drew (ducks and waits for the crossfire!)

By Handsome (170.118.157.134) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 04:30 pm:

Here's my opinion on similiar voices or voice inflections:

Edna Wright/Scherrie Payne
Deniece Williams/Jean Terrell
Whitney sounds like a mixture of Cissy Houston & Dionne/Dee Dee Warwick
Kim Weston/Martha Reeves
Maria Muldair sounds like Aretha on Midnight at the Oasis
Lauryn Hill/Mary Wilson
Ann Nesby/Aretha Franklin

By R&B (138.238.41.118) on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 11:36 am:

GOOD TOPIC GANG,THE LATE SWEET JAMES OF THE FANTASTIC FOUR SOUNDED ALOT LIKE DAVID RUFFIN TO ME..LISTEN TO LITTLE MILTON SING[WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT]AND YOU'LL SWEAR IT'S BOBBY BLUE BLAND..WHEN THEY WERE LITTLE GUYS,DONNIE OSMOND SOUNDED ALIKE LIKE MJ..MS SYREETA WRIGHT SOUNDS ALOT LIKE DIANA,MAYBE THAT'S WHY BERRY WANTED HER IN THE SUPREMES..DION JACKSON HAD THAT SMOKEY SOUND ON CERTAIN SONGS..AND HERE'S ONE THAT NONE OF YOU PROBABLY THOUGHT OF..LISTEN TO CHUCK JACKSON AND PAUL WILLIAMS AND TELL ME THAT THEY DON'T SOUND ALIKE!

By Eli (141.152.249.69) on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 11:44 am:

My secret desire is to do a posthemous Little Sonny/ Barbara Mason duet a'la Nat and Natelie.
Barbara and Sonny both have that slightly out of tune "whine" and I want to dig up the multitrack on Together by the Intruders and put Barbara on as a duet with Sonny!!

By STUBASS (205.188.209.109) on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 11:48 am:

HEY HANDSOME!!!...SOME GOOD OBSERVATIONS...BUT MARIA MULDOUR & ARETHA FRNAKLIN...NOW THAT TO ME IS A *GIANT* LEAP OF FAITH!!!...STUBASS

By douglasm (68.113.13.31) on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 01:12 pm:

Stu...
....listen to the way Maria "slides" through "Midnight At The Oasis", then listen to Aretha sing "I Say A Little Prayer". Granted the voices themselves are different, but boy, the style is a dead knockoff, and I can visualise (audiolise?) Aretha singing that song the same way. Some of her early jug band stuff with Kweskin showed the same tendencies.

doug

By STUBASS (152.163.252.68) on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 01:17 pm:

OK DOUG!!!...BASED ON THAT ANALYSIS...I'M GONNA HAVE TO "SAY A LITTLE PRAYER FOR *YOU*"!!!...STU(GOTTA GO LAY MY CAMEL TO REST)BASS

By STUBASS (152.163.252.68) on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 01:20 pm:

PS TO DORA!!!...PLEASE KEEP THE "ACID" *OUT* OF DOUGS MORNING COFFEE!!!...WE LIKED HIM THE WAY HE *WAS*!!!...HAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!...STU(TASTERS CHOICE)BASS

By Dora m (68.113.13.31) on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 01:45 pm:

Stu:
There are too many cups under the bridge to change things now--Doug is ever changing. That's part of his charm.

Dora

By douglasm (68.113.13.31) on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 02:30 pm:

Stu...
....it's all a matter of preception (sp?). The Buckinghams problem all over again.
And yes, her middle initial is also "m".

doug

By STUBASS (205.188.209.109) on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 03:42 pm:

THATS OK DOUG...NOW I UNDERSTAND...THANKS TO DORA!!!...OK DORA...PLEASE...FOR HIS OWN SAFETY...MAKE CERTAIN THAT DOUG WEARS HIS CRASH HELMET *INSIDE* THE HOUSE!!!...STU

By Handsome (170.118.157.134) on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 11:08 am:

Hey STUBASS..How are ya?

douglasm--Thanks for coming to my rescue. Maria does sound like an subdued Aretha on that tune.

By douglasm (68.113.13.31) on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 12:04 pm:

Handsome...
....same style permiates "Waitress In A Donut Shop" and the verses (not the chorus) of "The Work Song". Would have likeed to see Aretha do either. Would have been great. "Walkin One And Only" on the other hand.....

By john c (12.2.233.107) on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 02:52 pm:

Anne Murray and David Gates.

By moanman (24.44.218.110) on Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 09:38 pm:

Fontella Bass (remember her?) her "Rescue Me" sounded amazingly like Aretha. In fact, I've won a couple of bets with people who actually thought it *was* Aretha.

When you really think about it the list is endless. Here are just a few:

Syreeta and Diana Ross voices definitely do have a sameness in vocal quality. I've always thought this, but in a contest, Syreeta would take Diana down. Sweet-sounding as her tunes can be, one listen to her "Tiki Tiki Donga" proves Syreeta can reached down deep and rustle up some serious GRIT! Never heard Diana get gritty.

However, today's pop singer Maya, is Syreeta's musical twin.

D'Angelo mimics a damn good Al Green.
Maxwell does a decent Smoky.

Lots cats are staring to sound like Donny Hathaway; though Musiq (Soulchild) comes closest.

New soul crooner Bilal sounds strikingly close to Prince.

And Jahiem seems to channel Teddy P. to the point where sounds like Teddy just spit him out.

By Eli (205.188.209.109) on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 12:07 pm:

I grew up with Teddy and played on all of his hits with and without the Bluenotes, and IMO Jaheim sounds nothing like him.
He sounds closer to Miles Jaye and Christopher
Williams. He sounds "watered down" to me.
He only wishes he could sound like Teddy.
T.P. had MUCH more power in his voice, closer to Marvin Junior of the Dells who Teddys first songs were originally written for.
I have explained this on earlier threads.

I know that Teddy is Jaheim's idol but.........

By medua9e2003 (66.73.10.229) on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 02:31 pm:

Ok, Mr. Eli, U win hands down! LOL

By medusa9e2003 (66.73.10.229) on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 02:42 pm:

David,

I don't know...but Englebert can sing "After The Lovin' 4 me anytime.

By douglasm (68.113.13.31) on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 03:05 pm:

Good catch, Moanman.....
.....does this mean Fontella Bass sounds like Maria Muldaur? Seriously, I could see Maria singing "Rescue Me"......

By Eli (152.163.252.68) on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 03:16 pm:

Natalie Coles first record This will be sounds like Aretha too.

By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 03:22 pm:

Jackie Wilson sounds like Hank Ballard who sounds like Roy Hamilton who sounds like Brook Benton.

By STUBASS (205.188.209.109) on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 03:32 pm:

HEY DOUG!!!...ARE YOU THE GUY WHO SAID A FEW WEEKS AGO THAT MARIA MULDAUR SOUNDED LIKE ARETHA FRANKLIN???...IF SO...WHAT IS THIS WITH THE MARIA MULDOUR THING???...IF NOT...THERE'S ANOTHER ONE OF YOU!!!...STU

By Eli (152.163.252.68) on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 03:36 pm:

Eddie Holland sounded like Jackie Wilson

By Eli (152.163.252.68) on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 03:40 pm:

I am not a prophet or a swami, but IMO I do not forsee any career longevity for any of the American Idol winners.
I could be wrong.

By douglasm (68.113.13.31) on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 03:47 pm:

Stu...
....maybe. Handsome back on July 1st said it, I just came to his defense. I have noted in the past on "blue eyed soul" threads, though that I like Maria's style, and that "soul" is where you or I find it. That's my story, and I'm sticking with it.

You must admit that was a good catch Moanman made with Fontella Bass and Aretha Franklin. I never would have thought of it, but in retrospect it's obvious.

By STUBASS (64.12.97.7) on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 03:51 pm:

OK DOUG!!!...I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF FONTELLA...BUT AS FOR MARIA...SHE'S ON HER OWN!!!...STU

By 1Wicked (24.126.64.120) on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 04:12 pm:

Teddy Pendergrass and David Simmons (WMOT) sounded
amazingly similiar.

By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 04:14 pm:

Eli - I saw Eddie Holland singing "Jamie" at the 20Grand. I loved that song.

By Eli (64.12.97.7) on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 12:36 am:

Wicked,
Yes David Simmons was IMO the closest to Teddy.
He was incarcerated for a statuatory molestation charge and I am not certain if he is out as of yet.
I loved him on the original version of Hes all the man I need , duet with Sister sledge.

By Charmedes (142.165.109.139) on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 10:13 am:

Remy Shand - Eddie Kendricks
Ray Charles - Joe Cocker

By Mark Speck (199.183.107.91) on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:13 am:

I heard Clay Aiken from American Idol singing "Bridge Over Troubled Water" and couldn't help but think (seriously!) that he sounded like Mr. Ed!

"Ohhh, Wilber, make him stop!"

Best,

Mark

By WaltB (152.163.252.68) on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:44 am:

James Ingram & Michael McDonald on "Yah Mo Be There"
Babyface & Jon B

By Reese (12.15.169.254) on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 01:29 pm:

Going back to what someone else posted: the first time I heard RESCUE ME(during an oldies TV ad), I was sure it was Aretha Franklin. I'm sure a lot of people got confused over that. It couldn't have helped when Aretha did record a version of RESCUE ME (retitled DELIVER ME) for her Pizza Hut commercial.

By moanman (24.44.218.110) on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 03:40 pm:

The odd (or maybe really interesting ) thing about "Rescue Me" is it was recorded in 1965 (I believe), & Aretha was at that time, a hitless "pop" singer on the Columbia label, & not yet the Atlanta Soul Diva she was destined to become. So maybe Fontella "did Aretha" before Aretha did.

By R&B (138.238.41.30) on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 04:39 pm:

THERE ARE THOSE WHO SAY THAT THE CHIPMUNKS AND BUNNY RABBITS SOUND ALIKE[BUT BUNNY RABBITS ARE SO SHY THAT YOU HAVE TO GET EM TIPSY ON THAT CARROT JUICE BEFORE THEY WILL UTTER A SOUND,AND THEN YOU CAN'T SHUT EM UP]HEHEHEHHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE!!!

By stranger56 (24.47.50.195) on Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 01:38 am:

Although I firmly believe there is NOBODY like Levi Stubbs, I always felt that General Norman Johnson, from Chairmen Of The Board, sounded somewhat like Levi on certain songs.

By WaltB (205.188.209.109) on Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 06:37 am:

Stranger 56: How about Joe Stubbs Levi's brother from the Contours?

By Stranger56 (24.47.50.195) on Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 07:41 am:

I know Joe sang with the Falcons, I wasn't aware that he sang with the Contours, but yes, there was a bit of a similarity also.
Good point.

By Galactus (68.171.125.218) on Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 09:28 am:

I know Philip Bailey always said Eddie Kendricks WASN'T his primary influence, but it's amazing how alike the two of them sound at times, both equally good. There are a lot of falsetto soul singers throughout history, but those two sound more alike than any other two falsetto singers I can think of.

Stevie Wonder was clearly influenced by Donny Hathaway's early records.......particularly on "Talking Book" and "Innervisions."

I agree Norman Johnson sounded a lot like Levi Stubbs. Know who else sounds like Levi? The lead dude for The Village People. I never cared for the Village People and the way they presented themselves, but I always thought it was a shame the lead singer didn't get a chance to just cut some soul music. He actually had a classic soul voice. Kind of a waste, really.

BTW.....plenty of reggae singers were influenced by soul acts, too. Bunny Wailer at times tries to imitate Curtis Mayfield's approach.......and Toots Hibbert of Toots and the Maytals sounds a lot like Otis Redding on some of the Maytals' hits.

By Scratcher (152.163.252.68) on Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 09:37 am:

Joe Stubbs sang with the Falcons, the Originals, the Contours and 100 Proof Aged In Soul. He also made solo recordings for Lupine Records.

By fayette (152.163.252.68) on Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 09:44 am:

well sonny and cher sound alike,luther
and billy stewart,chaka khan and the female
lead for the group MOTHER'S FINEST(can't
remember her name. a lot of singers from
the late 80's on(female) sound like janet
jackson. janet to me is a whiner,she pretty
tho.

By r. s. (68.134.68.112) on Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 02:48 pm:

Macy Gray and Donald Duck

By STUBASS (206.135.204.254) on Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 03:15 pm:

DONALD FAGIN AND *DAFFY* DUCK!!!...STUBASS

By Des (81.152.91.74) on Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 06:29 pm:

Hey Stu/I love The Dan and they're not about his vocals in a technical way - more about the fact he developed a stylised performance that suits their smartass/genius lyrics and way cool musical style.
Tell me it was just for the gag?
BTW,Maybe you know he was a reluctant lead singer,but partner Becker(not Ted Danson) and he decided he 'fit' the songs better than a more technically gifted but less 'knowing' vocalist.....on the tv documentary 'classic albums'(Aja) when they're listening at the mixing desk and isolate a track of Fagens' vocals on (from memory) 'Peg' - Fagen himself jokes that this was his 'Jerry Lewis period' - even more appropriate than Daffy Duck methinks !!!
Having read yr post re yr brothers' achievements and catching some of his resume on Internet Movie Database(imdb.com),I can't believe he feels same about The Dan - if you are,indeed,'serious' in yr crack at Fagen....and that makes me hope/think yr just ragging on Fagen for the joke????
Des-"hopeful"-detroit
BTW,your posts ain't irritating....

By STUBASS (206.135.204.254) on Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 06:54 pm:

HEY DES!!!...I HAVE BEEN TOLD EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT "THE DAN" BY *SO* MANY PEOPLE...THAT I'M ACTUALLY STARTING TO BELIEVE IT!!!...I KNOW THEIR MUSICIANSHIP IS OUTSTANDING...BUT I'LL NEVER GET OVER FAGINS VOICE...AND DON'T KNOW WHY THEY NEVER ADDED A QUALITY SINGER TO THE BAND...THEY WOULD BE SO MUCH BETTER IN MY OPINION!!!...STUBASS

By STUBASS (206.135.204.254) on Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 06:57 pm:

PS TO DES!!!...THANKS FOR THE VOTE OF SUPPORT...BUT BY THE WAY...I DON'T EVER RECALL DISCUSSING STEELY DAN WITH MY BROTHER...ALTHOUGH LATELY WE'VE BEEN ENGAGED IN THE OTIS REDDING (ME) VERSUS RAY CHARLES (HIM) DEBATE!!!...STU

By Des (81.152.91.74) on Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 07:34 pm:

Stu/ I hear you...seems you're in the 'don't like The Dan' camp - that's ok.I appreciate you've heard all the arguments and they're not for everyone,I guess.
On a musical kick,in additional support of The Dan - with relevance to this Forum,I've always noted that they've employed some exceptionally funky musicians and,in a way,put them in a different environment,whilst letting their gifts permeate what some still perceive to be 'soulless' and slick music....wow,that even pains me to write that - I'm thinking Bernard Purdie/Ed Greene/Chuck Rainey/Paul Griffin/Wilton Felder and on the Two Against Nature cd - Ricky Lawson(was awesome to listen to on the dvd that partnered that album).
I do believe that there's much soul to discover in The Dans' craft....and probably there's the rub,their music is sooooo crafted that it probably takes a lot of listening to finally 'get it'.....and that's not meant in a high-faluttin' way,it's just them's the facts,IMO.
To anybody who has failed to find funk or soul in The Dan - pls give it another attempt - 'tis there,honest.
Des

By STUBASS (206.135.204.254) on Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 07:45 pm:

TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU REGARDING THE GROUPS MUSICIANSHIP DES...AND HAVE IN FACT...PURCHASED THEIR RECORDS!!!...I REMEMBER BUYING THEIR BIG ALBUM BACK IN ABOUT 79...AND THE FUNNY THING WAS...I BOUGHT SIX COPIES...AND EACH ONE WAS WARPED...WENT BACK SIX TIMES TO RETURN IT...UNTIL I FINALLY GOT A GOOD ONE!!!...YES...A GREAT GROUP OF MUSICIANS WITH A GREAT STUDIO SOUND...BUT...AGAIN...FAGINS VOICE IRRITATES ME!!!...STU

By Des (81.152.91.74) on Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 08:05 pm:

Warped vinyl - that brings back memories,Stu.
I remember countless occasions I had the same problem.I eventually got to the stage with a Record Store in Glasgow (Listen Records,Renfield Street) that I often had to tell them that the batch of a given album ,most likely had the same fault and,unless they paid my rail fare each time I took a replacement and had to come back,I was going to burn their store down(a joke).....they knew I bought a lot and relented - I'd pick another album until they got a new batch in on the problem one!!
Thing of the past now,eh??

By STUBASS (206.135.204.254) on Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 08:21 pm:

YEAH...THING OF THE PAST ALRIGHT...EXCEPT THE CD PLAYER IN MY CAR...THREE MONTHS OLD...HAS ALREADY HAD TO BE REPLACED!!!...IF IT'S NOT ONE THING...IT'S ANOTHER!!!...STU

By Des (81.152.91.74) on Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 08:38 pm:

Ssssssssshhhhhhhhhh - don't mention possessions -- Ha !!!!!

By STUBASS (206.135.204.254) on Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 09:10 pm:

OH YEAH...I FORGOT DES...I GUESS I'M SUPPOSED TO BE ASHAMED FOR WHATEVER TRAPPINGS OF SUCCESS I'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE!!!...SORRY...STU(CAPITALIST PIG)BASS

By STUBASS (206.135.204.254) on Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 09:11 pm:

HEY...AND IT AIN'T A FERRARI OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT FOR GOD SAKES...ALTHOUGH I WISH IS WAS!!!...STU

By Caleb (171.75.84.166) on Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 09:32 pm:

Sam Cooke and Steve Perry

By WaltB (205.188.209.109) on Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 07:06 am:

Scratcher: Did Joe Stubbs ever sing with 8th Day? I seem to remember identical versions of "She's Not Just Another Woman by 8th Day on Invictus and 100 Prood Aged In Soul on Hot Wax.

By WaltB (205.188.209.109) on Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 07:07 am:

Joyce Kennedy was the lead singer of Mothers Finest.

By WaltB (205.188.209.109) on Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 07:09 am:

Wonder why the Four Tops didn't get Joe Stubbs to fill in for Levi???

By RD (65.150.229.135) on Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 10:25 am:

Joe Stubbs is deceased, Walt. When he was alive I hear he did fill in for Levi from time to time. You asked Scratcher but I'll answer "She's Not Just Another Woman" by Eighth Day is the exact track and singing that first appeared on 100 Proof's album. Steve Mancha is singing the lead not Joe Stubbs. They put it out as a single by Eighth Day cause 100 Proof already had a hit on the charts and they didn't want to intefere with it. There wasn't even a group assembled as Eighth Day when they put the single out "as buy them." When the tune started hitting they put a group together with Melvin Davis and others.

By WaltB (64.12.97.7) on Monday, August 04, 2003 - 06:56 am:

Thanks RD. I really respect the abundance of knowledge that flows from this site. That includes too many to mention but you all know who you are. I also enjoy the unique artistic perspective of the songwriters and musicians who often post as well. Last, but not least the contributions of people such as HW add a lot of validity and unique insight from a record company perspective.

By Mike Sku (64.9.11.62) on Monday, August 04, 2003 - 11:35 am:

Hmmm...I always thought Jean Terrell sounded like Natalie Cole. Never thought of the Dionne Warwick connection. Polly Browne was definitely channeling somebody at Motown, though...

By MEL&THEN SOME (81.174.193.174) on Monday, August 04, 2003 - 01:25 pm:

WaltB
The Joyce Kennedy that you refer to is this the same one that recorded for
Fontana Records(no.1924)
and also for
Blue Rock Records(no's4023,and the superb track on 4016?)
many thanks
mel.

By douglasm (68.113.13.31) on Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 09:53 am:

I know i'm going to blow the spelling.....
....Dusty Springfield (The Look Of Love) and Astrud Gilberto.