By Davie Gordon (212.159.94.2) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 07:55 am:

I've just spent the last hour reading over the posts for the last few days and am quite dismayed
at what's been going on.

There's too much posturing going on - all of this had grown out of one damn sentence which if it had been said in a pub would've been forgotten in five minutes.


"If you feel Cellarful of Motown is disappointing buy one of the northern soul compilations that are raved about on this forum and you'll be downright disgusted"

There it is - that's the culprit !

I can see that it could be taken as a blanket
swipe at all of "Northern Soul" - but it's only
one opinion and a pretty offhand one at that.
I've got hundreds of CD's of northern soul stuff
and yes there is some rubbish on some of them - so
what's new - I've never expected compilations of
up to 30 tracks intended as singles to be consistently great listening. There are bound to be tracks that aren't up to scratch - that's why
they didn't sell and some have now become megabuck
records to people with more money than sense.
But that's the record collecting game - there are
still thousands of records which are unknown to
all but the northen soul fans and which still stand up today as being great records that for
any number of reasons failed to become the hits they should have been. But that's life - there's only 20 records that can get into the top twenty.

Now I've always seen this forum as being dedicated
to spreading information and opinions on the lesser known records that collectively are the
Detroit and Northern scenes. Frankly in recent months this forum has developed a tendency where
many of the posts are seriously "off topic"

Now it may be marginally interesting that Fabian
had an R&B chart entry - so did Peter, Paul and
Mary and Rolf Harris fergawdsake. What I'm suggesting is that this forum is not necessarily
the right place to discuss that.

Lists of songs with "Rutabaga" in the title or songs about drycleaning - all very interesting
but why is it here ? It just clogs up the forum
with irrelevancies. If you're really that bored
that you need to see all the songs with "Clcok" in the title go to www.bmi.com ands key in
"Clock" in the title search box. That'll keep you occupied for a few days.

Now I'm not levelling this as a shot against any
forum member, I am suggesting that before posting
think for second - will this add anything constructive or informative ? - if not forget about posting it.

Just think about the amount of space all this
offense-taking has occupied. To be brutal about it
David and Lowell pay for the upkeep of this site.
If I was paying for the site I'd be irritated at
irrelevancies and apparent blanket dismissals of the music this site was started to celebrate.

Now if anyone's going to take offence at anything
I've said - basically I don't care. The choice of
leaving or staying is up to the individual.

We should be adult enough to expect to disagree
on things - I didn't agree with Randy or Tony
(sorry, I can't remember exactly which one) about
the importance of Chubby Checker. Big deal -
I'm sure we agree on a helluva lot more other artists.

Anyway, I've said my piece ...

To the members who want to leave - OK see you after your vacation from the forum. People leave, people return. People argue, people make up.

And the beat goes on ..........

Love and hugs, Davie

By TonyRussi (68.18.39.39) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 08:09 am:

Well said Davie, and we do agree on alot more artist...we all love SOUL music thats why we are here. Its wonderful discussing my passion for the music I love with other people who are passionate about the same music. I sincerly thank Lowell & David for this wonderful site and its time to send another contribution to help out!!

By David Meikle (81.130.211.124) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 08:24 am:

Davie

You'd have an empty forum!

SD has become a trashcan. People who want to declare Theo Peoples and Ronnie McNeir unworthy of their trade.

Locals who want to denegrate a project of which Harry Weinger is rightly proud.

People who love to muck rake Berry Gordy and Diana Ross.

Unabated criticism of the SITSOM soundtrack. Something I bitterly regret.

There is much more.

I've done enough spouting on here last 24 hours to ensure my departure.

I'm going to do myself a big favour and leave the locals to it.

The locals don't care about their heritage. I have heard that a million times in Detroit. So nobody tell me that it's not true.

I can count on two hands the number of people in the States that can tell us anything about this "disgusting" music that we crave over here.

Please no "come back" shit.

I'm fucking off, and with a smile on my face :-))

By Chad (172.153.60.185) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 08:28 am:

David is also upset about the disparaging comments made about the current Four Tops lineup by some forum regulars on another thread. One person, who I won't name, said in effect the current Tops weren't worth paying to see without Levi Stubbs. Remarks like that is not what this site is supposed to be about.

By David Meikle (81.130.211.124) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 08:34 am:

P.S.

On the cost front.

12 people donated to the site in 21 months.

We held an event in Detroit designed as a fund raiser. We netted $300. My mate Harry Dhesi can testify to that.

We had a number of gatecrashers.

We were left with about 80-90 posters which were being sold to raise funds. ie we sold about 10-15.
I really don't know the figure.

This is the type of people we have on the forum.

Thank fuck I'm out of it.

By Wonder B (81.53.148.132) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 09:49 am:

This is sad to hear for a newbie here like me... I came here two months ago and thought how cool this site was without the kind of arguing that anyone can see on every other forum... so I see it caught up with this one too...
I kinda agree with Davie...
And with David... Being from France, even after reading countless pages on the Northern Soul subject in the pages of once UK's greatest mag (Blues & Soul) back in the 70's and early 80's, it was always striked at the difficulty to understand fully the notion of Northern Soul... I think (from what I have grasped) that this is a thing nobody can understand unless he has seen or better lived those great times in the legendary places where this movement started (Wigan Casino etc)... and how it carried on through to this day with the reissues of many unbelievably rare & expensive tracks on CD... and the great new magazines like In The Basement or Togetherness which carry the torch in the 2000's...
Northern Soul is more than music, it is almost a way of life for the people who love it... AFter watching the great (despite the criticisms of a few on the subject) DVD set from Ian Levine, it is obvious that most non British people can only imagine (and still be very far from the truth) what this scene is and means to the people over there...
Therefore when criticism arise on a subject that obviously means more to the people who operate this site (which was created for this sole purpose of defending and exchanging info on this music) one should think more than once about what they're about to say... like we say in France turn your tongue seven times in your mouth before posting.
What I would like to say in the end is that this site has brought more to me than 100 other sites on the web and that the Golden World Story is just phenomenal. Where else can you get info like this, where can you talk to people like Laura Lee or Bobby Eli or Bob Babbitt on a forum...
Come on... RESPECT the idea behind this forum and if you don't like a particular set of tracks that make one compilation, make sure that (in your post) you show much love for the music that this site represents... and for the people who bring this wite to you...

Wonder B

By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 11:08 am:

The beautiful posters designed by Lowell. I was sure everyone was going to get their copy of that great poster. I've got mine. You should have let me handle that part DMeikle.

I would have offered one to everyone there. I wanted to do more than just walk around meeting people, but I didn't know what to do. What I should have done was to sit near Mrs. Lowell and met everyone at the door to remind them of the donation, and offered a presentation about that historical poster.

They missed out. (Perhaps they can order one at a later date for the sum of $10 plus postage.)

Some of the Northern Soul songs were not played on the radio. There were so many songs recorded in Detroit. Some I do remember. Some I had purchased, but they got lost or worn. (I couldn't afford to buy two copies.) I had to choose in those days which 45 I would buy. I have about 6 cd's and about 10 cassettes with Northern Soul recordings. The Lord knows a great many of those recordings I have not heard. But the style of the singing I remember vividly and it brings back great memories of the good old days. Some of them had never been released. Some were recordings which "just couldn't get off the ground," quoting Popcorn Wylie.

My closet is full of old albums, my basement is full of old albums, R&B and gospel, all of which have been played over and over and over. I admit I threw a box of 45's away, but I had over-worked them and they could no longer be played. Some of which I had purchased in the 60's, but I didn't know there were people who had a great interest in the labels as well. Some of the photos we took were lost as you go from one phase of life to the other.

Whether or not I documented the Detroit musical heritage in written form or just kept it in my soul and memory, I will always remember those days. While making a living in the real world, working 9-5, raising children, my music gave me the strength to go to the next day or year, and the next trial. I had no time to research what studio it was recorded or who made the music on what label and when. I just know I walked by studios all over Detroit without a thought of what was going on there. It was not unique. It was just an event, or just an existance of that day. It was nothing out of the ordinary. It was everyday life. As I passed Studio B every Tues & Thurs taking my sons to karate class, my thoughts were on what time I was going to pick them up, and if they were going to make the ternament. Not thinking that at that very moment James Jamerson may be in that studio putting down tracks on a future favorite of mine.

So, DMeikle, I feel you. I know how you feel about the great recordings called Northern Soul, and the people who recorded them. I have that same passion for the residences of the City of Detroit, and the gospel quartets.

How can someone tell you that a particular recording is disgusting when you know how it sounds to you. The song is great to some, particular those who prefer Northern Soul. Norhern Soul has been developed and maintained. How can someone outside of that realm, say or determine that it is not a great song, or that it doesn't sound great. They cannot. They are not speaking from a Northern Soul perspective, so, they must be silent on the issue unless asking questions. They cannot have an opinion. Or, at least their opinion does not count.

I don't like rap, hip-hop. So that's it. I can only say, I can't understand this generation of music. I don't have to listen to it, nor do I have to click on the subject line on the forum to go into the thread of discussion. It would be of no interest to me, so I would have nothing to discuss.

The "sound of music" to the ears is different for everyone. (as usual, not proof read)

By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 11:12 am:

"And" Northern Soul is not necessarily on a Motown label. The Motown Sound does not necessarily come to my mind when I think Northern Soul. Norther Soul is a collection of the different labels and companies.

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 11:35 am:

Davie & SisDetroit:
Thank you for the perspectives.
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 11:44 am:

KevGo - The Beatles were loved by many. Not all. To the Beatles, it was the many that counted.

I didn't like Buddy Holly, but that is not important to the many who did. So, how can I tell those Buddy Holly fans that the music is discusting. I cannot.

By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 11:56 am:

KevGo - I'm glad to see you though. You have too much knowledge to absent yourself from this forum. (Of course no one cared whether I left or not.)

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 11:59 am:

Sis, that is SOOO not true!!!

By stephanie (64.63.221.19) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 12:00 pm:

Sisdetroit
Thats not true you are valued here we all care
Stephanie

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 12:10 pm:

SisDetroit:
If I ever hear you say that about yourself ever again I'm gonna fly out to Detroit on the next plane and.....
C'mon! You are sooooo highly valued out here! You're knowledge and passion and....hell, you are a DETROITER for God's sake! You are part of the heritage! If you EVER thought of leaving this Forum, I will be at your doorstep with Susan Whithall & Ralph Terrana sooooo quick it will make your head spin!
WE ALL value you, Sis! Don't you ever think otherwise!
From your "kid brother" in soul,
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By Woody (205.188.209.109) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 12:30 pm:

This thread and a couple of others points out what has dragged this site down. Why is so much time and space being wasted on people supposedly leaving and posting long rambling messages explaining why? What interest is this to the northern soul fans that visit this site, some for the first time, what are they thinking when they read these moaning posts?

If someone doesn't want to post here anymore then don't post. Nobody needs a dissertation. What's obvious is that many of you get your sense of value and being from the love you receive by others on this site, which is sad in itself.

Somebody in the know please tell me that all this mushy crappola won't be archived. There's too much inappropriate garbage to wade through now before you get to the pertinent stuff. What do songs with "Hey Love" in the title and Iggy Pop discussions have to do with Northern Soul? This site has lost its focus.

By douglasm (68.113.13.31) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 12:35 pm:

Folks....
....for the past couple of days I've wanted to stick my foot in my mouth here, but i've been stumbling around on how to say it. Thus take what I say with a grain (maybe a 5 lb. bag) of salt. I mean no disrespect to anyone.

First off, I have a ton of guilt here. I was the one that started the Four Tops thread. IN NO WAY did I intend to create a slam the band conversation or anything of the like. It was a simple consumer question from a guy with limited funds to spend, and I still think the question is legit. But again, I meant no disprspect towards the group or its members, and in retrospect am sorry I asked the original question.

As to the lists, I kinda enjoy them. As I've said before, they perform a function for me, in that they either send me scurrying to the record collection to find something I hadn't thought of for years, or lead me towards somethng I hadn't thought of at all.

As to "non-soul" threads, they tend to be Detroit centered. Sue once pointed out to me (very pointedly, but that's her style and I take no offense) that Detroit based music of many types have an interrelationship, something pointed out to me by my brother through his Stooges thread, which lead to a connection between Bob Babbitt and Tim Curry/Dick Wagner--Bob, I'm interested in your reply. As to the Stooges thread itself, it seems to have struck a chord with some people, given the number of responses it drew. Granted, it's not everybodys cup of tea but.....

....I generally don't follow the northern soul threads if only because 1) I don't understand the English soul scene and b) what I do understand seems to bore me a bit, but that's someone elses cup of tea, and the fact that I don't like them doesn't make them any less valuable to other people on the forum.

What I don't like is the implication that we should blindly support--fill in the group or style of music here--because it is that group or style. I'm genually sorry my thread screwed up something David was working on, but in general, both the Tops and the longrunning Temptations threads were reasoned discussions about the music of those groups, their styles, and the current state of the acts, and if we can't criticize--IN A CIVIL WAY--what we don't like, this forum to me would become as valuable as a publicity sheet. It is the interaction, discussion, praise and criticizm that I look forward to from this group.

I've probably spent way too much of your time with this, I thank you for your indulgence. I value all your input, good or bad, as long as it's civil. I enjoy your company and respect you all for taking the time to enter my house (or computer, as it were) and help educate me on the ins and outs of music.

Douglas M. Shirk
Wenatchee, WA

By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 12:46 pm:

Thanks anyway Ralph and Stephanie.

DMeikle - On what you said about the locals not caring. Think about this for a second. A very energetic young group of men who can sing, had been singing since the early teens who practice faithfully, and who auditioned with a recording company; recorded day in and day out making an album plus some. They do not have control of any of those masters. (Perhaps in the UK as well.) The album became a hit across the country. But the group never got a dime for the work they put into the studio. The group, leaving their (poor) families, worked their butts off touring, singing, and promoting the hit.

So in regards to heritage, what they did was to try and forget. They don't want to remember how the producer took the money for himself and never gave them a dime. It is the producers heritage, not theirs. The producer or company continues to make money with the masters or acetates (sp). While the singers have had rough times and broken hearts when seeing their materials being re-released, and some unreleased songs being released without their knowledge or compensation. Do you think they should be proud of that fact and tell to their grand-children that they've just discovered several of their recordings are being sold to millions around the world, and they never got a dime? At this very moment, their recordings are a part of the Northern Soul collections, including the previously unreleased tunes. The groups were never informed. These groups could not afford to obtain the masters, have them converted and remastered and placed on compiliations

BTW: I'm not talking about the Mighty Lovers. (LOL)

I know this has nothing to do with the debate going on. But the local musical heritage has withstood and upheld on its own, (except for those that were destroyed in a fire) the producers and companies, who made the money, have the masters. It is they who should be proud to document the history of those great artist who made them plenty of money. :o)

Unless we get another Allan Slutsky there will be plenty of great artist who will forever be an unknown.

(That SisDetroit is crazy, what's she talking about anyway?)

By Nish (66.119.33.170) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 01:02 pm:

Sis - I value your presence on this board, you should never feel unappreciated. You are like Soul Sister #1, your love for the music is real and genuine and experienced. To paraphrase the O'Jays, "I dig your act."

And to keep this from being a lovey-dovey type post, I fully agree with your assessment on the heritage thing. We are in a better position to love the music, because sometimes the artists' view is (rightfully) crowded with disappointment and memories of hard times. That's a great point.

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 01:09 pm:

SisDetroit:
Several posts ago, a gentleman who visited Detroit wrote a message here wondering why some Detroiters were bitter after all these years about their musical heritage.

What you posted hit the nail on the head.

And it's not just Detroit, either. Chicago, Philly, NYC, Atlanta have similar tales but whatever decline took place in those cities wasn't nearly as devastating as what happened in Detroit. Is it true that Motown's move from Detroit affected the job market and the economy? If so, I'm not surprised.

Again, thank you for the post - and the perspective.

Kevin Goins - KevGo

By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 02:56 pm:

Thanks Nish and KevGo for your love.

If you only knew what I went through with my black friends here in Detroit, most of whom are in the music field, regarding SITSOM.

I argued, debated, threatened, hung up the phone (lol), in support of the Film. They had all types of issues with the making of the film, and the film itself. We never came to a mutual understanding, which I am not sweating over. I am not going to promote those issues here because I spend my energy stating my love for the music, and promoting the "THE MIGHTY FUNK BROTHERS." :o)

By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 03:12 pm:

I forgot to mention that in regards to the Soulful Detroit poster, both Sue and I donated $20.

By John Barry Sheffield (195.92.168.168) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 03:46 pm:

We are always going to have our own "perosnal opinions" but there is a certain way to express it and let's now get back to what we all know "The Message is in THE MUSIC" we all love deep down inside our hearts.

You know I worked on a Liverpool based Radio Station for 21 years broadcasting to the North West of England and North Wales and I never liked THE BEATLES - as I said we all have opinions.

John

By Eli (68.162.98.96) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 04:04 pm:

Most people in Philly couldn't care less about the people who made the wonderful classic Black music here.
It was not until I started traveling to the UK that I was treated with respect and not disdain.

The knowledge of the people in the UK has never ceased to amaze me and for that I am ever so grateful.

Just yesterday I received a package of sixteen cd's from WEA in the UK of various compilations and reissues.
Last year Richie Hardin, Carl Dixon and Brian day sent me great stuff to listen to and enjoy.
People here in my "home town" would never do that sort of thing unless they had a motive of some sort.

Although I am an American by birth, I will forever be indebted to my wonderful friends in the U.K. for their unwavering dedication to our Black Music which I love so dearly and am a part of.

By stephanie (64.63.221.161) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 04:14 pm:

Bobby
Wasnt Philly supportive of MFSB and the Ojays and Harold Melvin and the BlueNotes and all of the other groups when the music was HOT though? I have also always wondered if the Intruders were a very popular local group.....

Philly put out so much great music in the 60s and the 70s I think if they had gotten the attention that Motown had gotten publicity wise then Philly would be real hot on the map of memories like Motown. One thing about the Philly stuff everybody remembers those Green labels they were in every household I saw in my neighborhood.
Stephanie

By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 04:21 pm:

Eli - You don't know that. I thought I was the only one who cherished the 60's music until I got on the internet. I did not know there were so many people who cared as I do. How can Philly not care about that great music? It just hasn't been communicated. There aren't that many people from the 60's and even the 70's on the internet.

Since we live it every day within our homes, and not go out and shout about it, does not mean we don't care, or that we don't still have our cherished 45's and albums, and still searching for those that got lost. We no longer ride in our convertables with the top down blasting our soul music because the younger generation who have their windows up in their trucks have more powerful speakers than we. You can hear their speakers two blocks away playing their rap songs. (LOL)

By Eli (68.162.98.96) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 04:30 pm:

I should have clarified my previous post.

Yes Philadelphians were fans of all of the obvious stuff as were just about everyone during that time, but I was speaking of the host of groups and solo singers who are all but forgotten here except for a very small group of "specialist " collectors.

There were literally groups on every corner in every part of town vying for that coveted chance to "go into the studio and cut"

There were many, many small labels as there were in Detroit vying for that coveted airplay but most sank without a trace for one reason or another.

The neighborhood in which I grew up was a haven for singing groups and when you ride thru today you would swear that you can hear the "echoes of the past" that permeates thru the air.

For me, thatis the time in my life which I most grateful for and it will remain indelible in my mind forever.

By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 04:30 pm:

DMEIKLE - Several people have seen my book "The Story of the Northern & Rare Soul Scene" Volumn 1, "The In Crowd".

They have tried to borrow it, but since the 70's I've learned my lesson. This book is not leaving my house. They have looked everywhere on the web to purchase it to no avail. Can you refer me to a site where it can be purchased?

By Eli (68.162.98.96) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 04:40 pm:

I have a friend whos name is Jimmy Keith.
When I was a kid in North Philly, he and is brother the late Tommy Keith and three more kids formed a group called the Delights and they used to rehearse in my upstairs "rehearsal room".

Their manager Ben "Mickey" Johnson had a label called Nite records that issued their first record Please take my love.
They also recorded under the name the Teen Kings on the Bee label out of Reading Pa and the Cuppy label in Philly..
Their record "Tell me if you know" on Bee is now valued at over $5000!!!! Their other records also command high prices.

While those songs are valued by collectors, Jimmy still lives in his old 'hood and is handicapped and all he has are memories of him and his dear brother when they had their 15 minutes.
He does not even have one original pressing of any of his records only the reissues that I got him from Val Shiveleys.

By Fury13 (12.2.196.17) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 04:42 pm:

R&B/soul music of the Sixties was a part of everyday life for those of us who grew up in the US. Maybe we've taken it a little for granted, but only because it is naturally ingrained in our cultural background and history. It's almost like it's part of our DNA or something. The artists and songs have a cultural and historical context for each one of us and they mean different things to each of us while providing some shared memories. It is our music. It jelled from a variety of uniquely American influences, and it could not have been created nor nurtured nor loved as it was/is in any other place but America.

I, for one, have never ceased to appreciate it -- especially the Detroit variety -- and its enormous impact on the world.

By RD (63.188.32.161) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 04:49 pm:

Eli, was that the same Tommy Keith who worked at All Platinum Records? He was with a funk band and wrote a few songs for various acts on All Platinum/Stang and Turbo Records. His most known composition is probably "Sweet, Sweet Lady" by the Moments and it wasn't a hit.

By Eli (68.162.98.96) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 05:01 pm:

RD,
Yes it was the same Tommy Keith.
He was soooo talented and a world class guitarist of the highest order.
He also has some collectable rare funk under the Marlboro Men.

Tommy and Jimmy were right there at the creation of the Philly Sound as we know it.

Some other early Philly acts that started and /or rehearsed "up in my room" were Esau Isaac, Rocky Brown,Colly Williams, The Chordstepers, Bobby "Guitar" Bennett, The Ivytones, the Dreamlovers, Bobby Ginyard, the Universals, the Teletones(early Butlers)
Donnie Elbert, the Turbans, the Sweethearsts (not those Sweethearts)and countless others.

By MEL&THEN SOME (212.159.48.199) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 05:04 pm:

Magic stuff Bobby
quite a few names there I have in my record collection today.
mel.

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 05:08 pm:

Bobby:
When I come back from my business trip next month, my next stop will be Philadelphia.

Tape recorder will be in hand.

Notes & questions on paper.

Someone has GOT to get you story & the Philly sound story. It may as well be me.

Your friend,
Kevin Goins - KevGo
(PS - It'll also give me a good excuse to get out of town & check out your demos!)

By Eli (68.162.98.96) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 05:08 pm:

Mel,I did know some magicians but, well they were no Houdini!!

By MEL&THEN SOME (212.159.48.199) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 05:12 pm:

Bobby
you wont believe this but a rabbit just popped out of my 15 gallon hat.
big rabbit as well.
Magic Marvo/alias mel

By Eli (68.162.98.96) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 05:18 pm:

Yum!!!! I was kinda hungry anyway.
Ill look see if I have any bread crumbs and some canola oil. MMMMmmmmmmm.
Maybe top it off with a nice Chianti!!!!

Heres comes Peter cotton tail............

By MEL&THEN SOME (217.14.178.69) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 05:29 pm:

Hey Bobby
just told big ears to hop it
think he got my drift when I was sat at the table reciting great rabbitt dishes to eat to whilst playing "prove yourself a bunny"
mmmmmmel

By RD (63.188.32.161) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 05:38 pm:

Tommy Keith was part of All Platinum's house band too. Bobby Bennent got a co-writing credit for the flipside of the Futures' "Love Is Here."

By 66th (62.252.128.6) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 07:36 pm:

Thanks to Bobby Eli's post of 04.04pm.

This is the truth.

By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 07:52 pm:

I've been to Philly once. I felt something special. Having heard so much about it, I think it was because of the music which had come out of Philly.

I used to visit Chicago every summer in the 60's. Loved the music blasting. It was crowded and noisey. I felt extremely close to Sam Cooke every time. I visited Chicago a couple times in the 70's. It had changed. But I went to several clubs to see Brides of Funkenstein and David Ruffin.

By Sue (64.12.97.7) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 08:17 pm:

I was born in Philly and lived there til I was 10!I had a lot of pride in the music, American Bandstand came from Philly and we never forgot it.

I well remember, when I heard we were going to move to Detroit my best friend Sue Mort told me when I got there to go find where the Temptations lived ...

By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 08:33 pm:

LOL, Sue - That reminds me of looking for Sam Cooke in Chicago every time I went. LOL

By medusa (66.73.14.79) on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 09:01 pm:

..I also meant 2 mention, Iwas a Beatle Fan, my favorite Beatles were George Harrison and John Lennon, although most of my friends liked Paul McCartney.Eric Burton & the Animals, Manfred Man
I liked the Dave Clark 5, my favorite was Mike...just 2 let U know that Motown wasn't the only Music I liked, but it was my favorite, it was homegrown, right here N Detroit, I hope U can understand.