By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 12:06 pm:

Pete,
Since you are coming on to the forum I thought I should set up an appropriate thread. Once again, welcome. I miss you Pete.

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 12:14 pm:

Hey Pete,
You might mention the forum to Jerry Corbetta. He was being discussed here a short while back.I meant to e-mail him but somehow got side-tracked.

By Davie Gordon (193.122.21.42) on Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 12:17 pm:

Hi Pete, great to have you drop in.

Now that you've got your own personal thread
you'll have to visit more often to see what's waitin' for you.

Have you seen the new Motown Motown website yet?

You and the rest of the guys will be pleased to see that the opening screens show a list of
a dozen major Motown acts and Rare Earth are there. the forum will probably end up discussing
who should be there (where are the Marvelettes?)but I thought it would please you that they recognise the band's contribution.

The site's at www.motownmuseum.com

Have fun in Idaho.

Davie

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 05:12 pm:

Hey Big Brother! As soon as you arrive...better get in touch with the people, Big Brother, and keep them on your side...

Welcome to Soulful Detroit, Pete!

Kevin Goins - KevGo

By Pete Rivera (209.100.86.4) on Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 06:15 pm:

This was from Pete Rivera on the Rare Earth post:

Hey Ralph: I just stopped by the site and got your note about not writting lately. I'm not sure that this is the right place to do it, but here goes. I've been reading all the stuff that Ray has been writing and it is very cool to hear from him. Ray was quite a guy around Detroit. I knew of some of the sessions he did. I can tell you that back when he was being considered for Rare Earth he came with the highest of recomendations from everyone in the "scene". He didn't dissapoint us. I just loved playing with him. He had a feel for a groove that I don't think I have ever felt with another guitar player since. I really miss that. We were so fortunate to have him. Right now I'm sitting at my laptop in Lewiston Idaho getting ready to go to The NAIA college world series where my son plays baseball. It's draft time in the pros and he's hoping to get called. I just left my other son who plays for the Dodgers and I have been doing shows with "The Classic Rock All Stars and going to games at my daughers College. I haven't been home for 11 weeks. Talk about being on the road.. I promise I'll stay tuned to the Forum and I will be happy to contribute any thing I can. This is a great site and the Forum is fun...

By Peterivera (64.12.97.7) on Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 08:24 pm:

Hey Ralph: I just thought I'd make a small correction to you're note. The group I play with is "The Classic Rock All Stars" classroc.com Hope you don't mind the correction... Thanks Peter

By djharvey (212.21.166.254) on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 08:00 am:

Hey Guys,

just found out that the "Dreams/Answer" Album had a german issue called "Two Worlds"!
I was lucky to find a copy in Denmark via internet and got it shipped to Germany!

Try to upload a pic, as soon as I find out how!

BTW I just love that album!!!!


Best wishes to you all!

Darin J. Harvey aka DJDetroit

By Millie (68.40.209.129) on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 08:32 am:

Hey Pete,
Welcome, welcome! Just seeing your name on the forum takes me way back to the Cliche' days...geez is it possible that we're all as old or older than our parents were when we were all hanging out together. I had dinner a few months ago with Al DiNoble and Lee Alan...it's the first time the two of them had seen each other since Lee's wedding many years ago. I talk to your old girlfriend Sally frequently and you're always remembered fondly. Steve Fischer sends his best too. Stay with us here...you'll love it!

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 10:45 am:

Pete,
Sorry about messing up the name of the group. I should have known better seeings as you're a real " Classic ".

By Peterivera (205.188.209.109) on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 03:58 pm:

Hey Millie: Good to talk with you....it's been tooooooo long.... Say hello to Sally for me....Thanks.....

By Peterivera (205.188.209.109) on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 04:01 pm:

I never knew of a German issue called Two Worlds...I'd love to see that....Thanks to you all who welcomed me. I'll be here if you need anything.... also...I contacted Rod Richards and he mailed me back that he will be checking out this site and you all will probably hear from him.... Peter

By djdetroit (212.65.18.25) on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 10:06 am:

By djdetroit (212.65.18.25) on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 10:15 am:

Hello Pete!
Here is the picture of the "Two Worlds" Album.
Made in Germany under the Metro Label!
Front- and Backside show the same picture
in contrast to the original "Dreams/Answer" Album!
The song sequence and credits printing are the same.

Greetings to you from Mannheim/Germany

Darin

By peterivera (152.163.252.68) on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 04:11 pm:

Oh those sneaky record companies....Let's see, maybe I can find a copy of an old royalty statement. Maybe I'll have a couple of quarters coming to me.... I never knew that Dreams Answers would be in Germany....will wonders never cease? Thanks for the picture....

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 04:13 pm:

I just got off the phone with Pete. We had a rather interesting conversation. We're kiciking around the idea of going into the studio and doing an album of Motown songs with Pete singing. Anyone care to comment on this possible project?

By Davie Gordon (193.122.21.42) on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 05:03 pm:

Pete,

If it's any help Metro, the German label that
issued "Two Worlds" is a division of MGM,
owned at that time by Polydor, now part of
Universal who coincidentally now own Motown.

Davie

By stephanie (64.63.221.43) on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 01:55 am:

I saw Pete Rivera and this man has an incredible voice I want to see him in action again on the radio.
Stephanie

By djdetroit (212.65.18.25) on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 02:35 am:

Pete,

the record has the code Metro 2356 050 to give
your more information!

BTW, my Dad Gary Harvey, co-wrote some of the
songs on that particular album!

Darin

By Clay (68.73.56.100) on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 03:40 am:

Ralph & Pete,
I think the idea of the two of you even thinking about getting together and going in the studio is
one of the best ideas I've heard in 2003.

I know that there is still a lot of music in the both of you and once you put Pete and Ralph together after all this years I'm sure you'll come up with a Classic production. Pete, always had a great set of hands for the drums and an amazing recording voice that is to this day VERY distinct. I wish you guys all the best not that you'll need my blessing but if I can help in any way just Holla......LOL Pete do you remember the album you did at Motown with the Fat lady on the cover.....?
Glad to see on the forum Pete and the best to you and your family.............Peace

By peterivera (64.12.97.7) on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 10:52 am:

Clay: Do I remember the fat lady on the cover of one of our albums???? Do I ever.... It was not one of our greatest moments back then...We had nothing to say about the cover. There were mixed feelings about it. At least from my family there was.It was called "MA" I think it was a lousy cover..

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 11:07 am:

Clay,
Thanks for the words of support. Coming from you that means a lot. Would be cool if all of us could get in the studio together. I talked with Fred Saxon last night and ran the concept down to him. He thought it was a great idea. Pete, we need to kick this around some more.

By STUBASS (205.188.209.109) on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 11:11 am:

HEY PETE: SOME MORE INFO PLEASE ON YOUR BOYS AND THEIR BASEBALL CAREERS!!!...WHO IS YOUR SON THAT PLAYS IN THE DODGER ORGANIZATION???...THANKS...STUBASS (BRUCE M'S BRO)

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 11:14 am:

Hey Bruce,
Ask Pete about his daughter Blake also. A top college softball pitcher. Ol' Pete grows great athletes.

By douglasm (68.113.13.31) on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 11:18 am:

While you're at it, didn't you mention you have a son playing in the NAIA tournament in Lewiston, ID?

By peterivera (64.12.97.7) on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 01:16 pm:

Gee, I thought you'd never ask. We have been blessed with children that have talent in atheletics. Jesse our oldest plays with the Dodgers. He signed out of College. http://www.milb.com/teams/stats.asp?id=536&loc=bat

Casey our middle child was drafted out of JC to the Marlins. He choose to continue school and hopes to get drafted again next week. Right now we are in Lewiston Idaho at the NAIA World Series and tonight we play the championship game for all the marbles...got peanuts? http://www.lcsc.edu/athletics/Baseball/2003/03playerprofiles/hoorelbelk03.htm

Blake is our daughter..(she's my Honey) She's doing great..we miss her she's too far away...http://www.stetson.edu/offices/athletics/softball/profiles/hoorelbeke.htm

There you have it....Thanks for asking

By STUBASS (152.163.252.68) on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 03:41 pm:

VERY NICE PETE!!!...I IMAGINE YOU PUT A DRUMSTICK IN JESSE'S HANDS AT A VERY YOUNG AGE...AND HE STARTED SWINGING IT AROUND LIKE A BASEBALL BAT...BECOMING THE SLUGGER THAT HIS STATS SHOW HE OBVIOUSLY IS!!!...GOOD LUCK TO ALL YOUR KIDS!!!...STUBASS

By douglasm (68.113.13.31) on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 04:31 pm:

BEAT OKLAHOMA CITY LIKE A DRUM!!!
Stupid question....
....do you live in Cd'A, and if so, do you gig around Spokane much?

By Peterivera (152.163.252.68) on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 09:12 pm:

I have moved back to Los Angeles. We are playing in Post Falls on August 14th. We haven't done too much around Spokane. I have done a lot of commercials there but the only show we did was Pig out in the Park in 2002.

By BOBBABBITT (64.12.97.7) on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 09:23 pm:

HEY PETE........LETS EAT MOTHER F----R!!!!!!!!!!
DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN BETWEEN THE BOTH OF US WE ATE 16 STEAKS IN ATLANTIC CITY AT THE BAY SHORES PARTY>>>>>>YOU ALSO ATE THE FAT OF THE MEAT...YOU TOLD ME YOU LOVED IT!!!!!!!!!!!THE "BABBITT"

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 09:37 pm:

Babbitt, I am laughing my ass off.

By douglasm (68.113.13.31) on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 08:57 am:

Hey Peter....
....Congratulations to L-C State!!

By Kim (68.47.158.113) on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 01:05 pm:

Pete,
I saw you guys in Naples, FL last Summer and the concert was great! We were able to get seats right up front. I had seen Rare Earth many years ago when Ray made arrangements for me to see a Rare Earth concert at CMU with his sister -- that was a great concert as well!
Best,
Kim

By Peterivera (152.163.252.68) on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 02:07 pm:

Babbit: you are a crazy f---. I have often thought of you and wondered what you are up to. Found any golf balls lately.... Let's Eat...I don't remember the steak thing.... Are you still pulling on your shirt.... Do you still have hair... Talk to me....

By Peterivera (152.163.252.68) on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 02:10 pm:

Douglasm: Thanks for the note.
Kim: We had fun in Naples...next time please say hello......Yeah we kicked Oklahoma butt....I love Oklahoma but you know I was rootin for LCSC.

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 02:51 pm:

Pete,
I'm going to send you some pictures of the L.A. Funk Brothers concert. Babbitt looks GREAT!!

By BOBBABBITT (64.12.97.7) on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 04:35 pm:

PETE.......BAY SHORES THREW A PARTY AT THE OWNERS HOUSE..HE HAD A SWIMMING POOL WHERE WE ATE THE STEAK........... (ROYALTONES & SUNLINER'S) ALTERNATING 30 MINUTE SETS.....MAYBE YOUR SENILE NOW?? YOU OLD F--K, AND YOU DON'T REMEMBER??? BUY DVD STANDING IN THE SHADOWS OF MOTOWN TO SEE WHAT HAPPENING IN THE USA...BUM F--K IDAHO IS STILL USING COVERED WAGONS>>>>>>>>>>DID YOU EVER TRY GOLFING ON ACID????? I AM LIVING IN NASHVILLE AND I AM STILL ROCKIN'.......BOB BABBITT

By Andy Skurow (205.188.209.109) on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 04:53 pm:

Ralph, I think a new album is a great idea. My respect for you guys grows with each step into the vault. Pete and Ralph, what do we have to do to get you guys in the studio? There's nothing you can't sing Pete, and with Babbit on bass, you on drums, hmmmm... my wheels are turning...

Soulful Detroit has brought about reissues, 2 potential books (Tammi Terrell and Four Tops) and obviously rekindled friendships. A CD would be a natural result.

By Andy Skurow (205.188.209.109) on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 04:55 pm:

Last week Tata Vega and Peter each shared with me wonderful memories of a great duet they did together on the Rare Earth's Grand Slam album. I'm sure she's available to add vocals to your record... When the Classic Rock All-Stars are on hiatus, can we start the "Soulful Detroit Motown All-Stars"???

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 05:17 pm:

Babbitt,
I have a picture of that Bayshores party.

Andy: I'm sure if we can work out all the details on this we will do something. Hey Babbitt! You up for playing a little bass??

By BOBBABBITT (64.12.97.7) on Sunday, June 01, 2003 - 03:50 pm:

RALPH......COUNT ME IN!!!!!!!!!!

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Sunday, June 01, 2003 - 04:41 pm:

Babbitt,
Thank you. That's great news. Now I just have to figure all this out.....

By Larry (69.3.130.162) on Sunday, June 01, 2003 - 06:04 pm:

Golfing on Acid!? I'm laffin my ass off.

Bob, is that the book Timothy Leary never wrote?

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Sunday, June 01, 2003 - 07:36 pm:

Actually Larry, the image of Babbitt golfing has me laughing my ass off. I'll bet his tee shot is a sight to behold.

By Peterivera (152.163.252.68) on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 02:41 am:

Tonight I watched "Standing in the Shadows" and I have to say that I had tears in my eyes. I don't think I ever loved anything as much as the memories of being able to walk in the footsteps of so many great players and singers. I remember how much I loved the artists and musicians of Motown. I wanted so much to be a part of them. I am grateful that I can say that I got a chance to do my thing at hitsville. I feel sad that I was not really a part of it all the way I wanted to be. I remeber Stevie when he was 11 years old. I watched him sing into the microphone with Clarence Paul whispering the words in his ear. I remember David Ruffin coming to the club where I worked and got to play drums behind him. I loved David, Stevie, Gladys,Marvin, Smokie, Martha,Mary,Tammi,and all who ever came from the "Sound" Motown meant more to me than anyone will ever know. I hope someday that I will be recognized as someone who contributed in some small way to the miricle of that time...

By Caleb (171.75.81.61) on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 04:28 am:

Babbitt and Pete puttin' down 16 steaks.That's quite a meal.Pete,you already are recognized as a contributor and part of the Motown Sound.God Bless,Caleb

By Davie Gordon (212.159.94.2) on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 06:18 am:

Hi Pete,

Here's the URL for the Motown Historical Museum.

http://motownmuseum.com/mtmpages/perform.html#


When you get there click on "Rare Earth" ...

Davie

By Ralph Terrana (ralph) (209.240.198.62) on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 09:58 am:

Pete,
Remember working up Motown songs when we were in The Sunliners. It was always a favorite thing of mine. I remember we first learned Mickies Monkey in NYC at the Peppermint. It's kind of ironic that our individual roads would ultimately lead us to Motown.

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 11:51 am:

Ralph & Pete:
Please do this album!!!! There is an audience out there waiting for rock veterans to bring some melody back into music.
If Solomon Burke can put out a killer R&B album in 2002 and earn a Grammy this year....HELLO!!!
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 12:11 pm:

Kevin,
I would love to do this album. As of yet Pete and I haven't really discussed it in depth. There are certain problems that would have to be overcome, such as just being able to get together to do it considering the geographical logistics and our individual schedules. Still, where there is a will there is a way and if it is meant to be we will do it. Hey, we already have a commitment from Babbitt. That alone should drive us into the studio.

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 12:30 pm:

Ralph:
I'm sure you guys can figure out a date & time to do this album. Hell, if you were here in NYC I would book the studio time for you all. Still, I'm sure it will come together.
Kevin Goins - KevGo
PS - when that time comes, let me know if any outside songs are needed - I know of some hungry songwriters here in NYC that would love to submit material

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 12:32 pm:

Thanks Kev. I'll keep you posted.

By Caleb (171.75.84.34) on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 02:04 pm:

Ralph,make this happen!!

By stephanie (64.63.221.145) on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 07:35 pm:

The GREAT Peter Rivera says he wished he would be a part of Motown history!!! Let me tell you something Peter!! I cant believe Im even talking to you. Rare Earth IMO was one of the first white groups albums that I saw in every black household in the neighborhood. You guys really broke some barriers believe it or not before the Average White Band and others of the like. I know that Sly and the Family Stone were multiracial like the Crests from the fifties but I wonder if you really realize (im sure you do) the impact you had on black families. I remember people not even thinking that a white band could sing or sound like this. That drum solo on Get Ready is incredible and is hailed as one of the greatest drum solos in history!!! Im not kidding one time I was on a board and they were discussing drum solos and that one always came up in the top five!!!! When I saw you with the Classic Rock All Stars I couldnt believe you could still sing. I will admit I was apprehensive and when you came out and started singing the opening lines to Get Ready the crowd got so excited and I heard people saying "He can still sing?" if you could see the joy and happiness that you and Corbetta and Hannibal brought to the crowd I think you would be in high heaven. Do people ever ask you to autograph the Rare Earth Albums? Man talk about being a part of history you just dont know..my hats go off to you and all of the guys in Rare Earth..
Stephanie

By peterivera (205.188.209.109) on Friday, June 13, 2003 - 12:24 pm:

Thanks I needed that... I would be ready to record as soon as you want... I couldn't think of anything better to do... Let me know..I can fly anywhere...just about anytime.... well sort of.... You know what I mean.... Babbit, now that would be a treat... call the writers... let's go....let's go....

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Friday, June 13, 2003 - 02:20 pm:

Pete,
I'm not sure if you are on the road or not but I will call you soon. I have your cell number. We need to hash all this out. July 4th is coming up and I will be seeing you then so between now and the 4th we can think of what we need to do.

By BOBBABBITT (152.163.252.68) on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 12:48 am:

GET THE STEAKS READY.........

By Clay (68.73.54.223) on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 06:45 am:

Hey Guys,
If you want to cut the sessions at home(Detroit) My 24trk studio,Trident console and toys are yours,just say the WORD and Love'N'Comfort studio is yours...I'm In,All the best in putting it together.

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 09:34 am:

Clay and Babbitt,
You guys are the best. I suppose there is much to figure out but just to know you guys are out there watching our backs means everything to me. I'll be in touch. Clay.. A Detroit session would be a gas.

By stephanie (64.63.221.165) on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 10:57 am:

Ralph
If this happens in a few months I would like to witness it.......this is history in the making
Stephanie

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 11:10 am:

Steph,
I'm not sure if this is some sort of historical happening, but it has been too many years since Pete and I worked together. If nothing else I'm sure it is going to be a lot of fun. As I've mentioned, there is much to work out so I'm sure it will be a while before anything takes place. however, when it does, if you're in the area your welcome to join us.

By Caleb (171.75.84.16) on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 04:35 pm:

You hear that Pete,Babbitt's ready to put down some more steaks and Clay's opened his studio to you guys.Very happening!!Hope it all comes together soon,look forward to reading about it here.Caleb

By Clay (68.73.192.149) on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 04:15 am:

Hey, Ralph,Russ, Babbitt and Pete
I believe I already made this offer,but if you missed it and you want to record at home(Detroit) My studio is yours for the asking ,24trks (Trident Console and all the toys)Just say the word and you can schedule the sessions at my place. I'm sure you'll love the sound. Peace

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 09:22 am:

Clay,
If I can figure a way for all of us to be in Detroit at one time I would love to do this at your studio. Seems only right. I'm buying the steaks.

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 12:12 pm:

Ralph & Clay:
When (and not "if"!) you guys do come together, I'll send you guys a professional photographer to cover this event and write the liner notes for the CD!
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By Eli (141.151.61.175) on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 12:48 pm:

Count me in too!!
I'll brings the ribs, greens and potato salad!!

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 01:25 pm:

Bobby,
Funny you should post. You DO realize that I was coming for you pal.

Kev,
That sounds great! I do hope we are able to work all this out.

By Eli (141.151.61.175) on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 01:28 pm:

That will be a thrill!!
Maybe I will hire paulie(over here) to be a lookout. Ill get Angelina to bring da canolis!!

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 02:12 pm:

Bobby,
If Angelina can bring REAL East Coast cannoli to the sessions I'll give you all my producer's points on the album. Can't find it in Monterey.

By Caleb (171.75.84.34) on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 06:02 pm:

Paulie3Shoes,weren't you in the first Rocky movie hangin' down on the docks in Philly?

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 04:08 pm:

For those forum members in Northern California, The Classic Rock All Stars will be appearing at the Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk this coming Friday. It's a great venue. a huge stage set up right on the beach. Two shows, 6:30 and 8:30 I believe.

Meanwhile Peter and I hope to meet on Thursday in Monterey and try and figure out how we are going to do this album we've been talking about. This isn't going to be easy to figure out, but where there's a will there's a way.