By Chancellor of Soul (66.207.40.18) on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 02:22 pm:

I recently went to the Museum Of Television And
Radio and saw a L.A. dance show from 1967 called
" Shebang". The show was based on a tribute to
Motown and it's guest stars were, Brenda Holloway
singing, " When I'm Gone" and her new release,
"Just Look What You Have Done" (one of my favorites by her) and the Temptin' Temptations
performing, " My Girl", " Beauty Is Only Skin
Deep", and " Ain't Too Proud To Beg", doing
their amazing steps !!! Casey Kasem was the host
and the show also featured a dance contest.
I love it !!!!! I just wish the museum had more
episodes. Do any one on SD remember this particular show in the L.A area ?????

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 02:29 pm:

Chancellor:
"Shebang!" was a LA-based rock music show that came from the Dick Clark Productions stable. It aired from 1965 to 1968 (the show was also in limited syndication).

Casey Kasem was indeed the host, prior to his "American Top 40" years.

"Shebang!" was also credited for its exposure of the West Coast music scene, especially the artists born & raised in East Los Angeles. Cannibal & the Headhunters and Thee Midnighters were "semi-regulars" on the show.

Kevin Goins - KevGo

By Chancellor Of Soul (63.78.189.114) on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 02:39 pm:

KevGo:
This was also around the time that Dick Clark
was producing quite a few shows like, "Where The
Action Is", and so forth. When the credits
appeared at the end of the show, Dick Clark
productions did appear.

Peace,
Mike Boone
(Chancellor of Soul)

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 04:32 pm:

Hey, what can be said? Dick Clark was Music Television before there was an MTV.

TV shows he had at that time:
American Bandstand (obviously)
It's Happening (later called Happening '68)
Missing Links (game show)
The Dick Clark Saturday Night Beechnut Show (ended in 1960)
Where The Action Is
Action '73 & '74 (1970s version of the WTAI hosted by Bo Donaldson & the Heywoods)

Busy guy, wasn't he...

Kevin Goins - KevGo

By Chancellor of Soul (66.207.40.18) on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 04:45 pm:

Yes he was, and still is, lol.

Mike Boone
(Chancellor of Soul)

By TonyRussi (68.210.2.246) on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 05:10 pm:

Dick Clark could make a new fortune by marketing the videos of "Where The Action Is" & "Shebang".I've never seen Shebang...this silly little market did not want to corrupt us kids with that I guess.I missed many a school bus cause this Orlando hick town would have "Action" on at 7:30AM then would try & say that the ratings weren't good!! I'd love to see Brenda Holloway doing "Just Look What You Done" which is one of my all time favorite recordings.

By motown_david (64.12.97.7) on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 06:01 pm:

Great to read about this show as I've just bought a copy of it and am awaiting its delivery from a British source. I am assured that it is in colour.
Really looking forward to this one.
David.

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 06:29 pm:

Tony:
Orlando aired "Where The Action Is" at 7:30AM!!!
The show was aired 4:00-4:15pm EST in Rochester & Pittsburgh (this according to my older brothers & sisters). I guess it didn't fall under the ABC-TV "must-carry" rules.

At least you got to see the show when it was fresh & new. We young'uns are stuck with kineoscopes!

David:
Don't be surprised that "Shebang!" is in black & white - many ABC-TV and Dick Clark-related programs didn't go color until September 1967 (Dick even admitted in one of his Bandstand-related books that "American Bandstand" was one of the last TV shows on the network to switch from B&W to color and that was in the fall of 1967).

Kevin Goins - KevGo

By dvdmike (65.208.234.61) on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 07:14 am:

Who remembers "The Lloyd Thaxton Show" and the weekday broadcasts of American Bandstand"? Those in the Chicago area should remember the original "Soul Train" that broadcast from the penthouse of the Board Of Trade building for one season (1970) until Don Cornelius moved the show to L.A. Chicagoans should also remember "Red Hot & Blues" with Big Bill Hill from the late '60s. There was also a local show called "Kiddie A Go-Go" from the '60s. I think it aired on WGN and was hosted by a lady named Pandora Mulqueen. It was a kiddie version of American Bandstand. I remember seeing The Buckinghams and The New Colony Six on that show.

By TonyRussi (68.210.2.246) on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 07:41 am:

I remember Lloyd Thaxton....it was wierd that he would sometimes lipsynch songs...He loved doing Marvin Gaye!That was on for awhile on Saturday afternoons. When "Action" first came on it was during the summer & everyday in the afternoons then Orlando started airing it at 7:30 in the mornings....luckily the school bus stop was across the street & my Mom would start yelling when she saw the bus.

By Randy Russi (169.139.180.100) on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 09:03 am:

I remember Brenda doing Just Look What You Have
Done on American Bandstand when the record came
out. It was in color and I believe she had a
yellow paintsuit on.

By Scratcher (65.132.79.32) on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 10:21 am:

Virtually every large American city had copy cat American Bandstand type shows. The larger ones had both white and African-American telecasts. I would love to get some of the black dance shows on tape because a lot of obscure, one and local hit artists appeared on them.

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 11:56 am:

Gang:
I remember seeing many of Lloyd Thaxton's clips at the Musuem of Television & Radio as well as cable TV specials on rock & roll.

Scratcher is right, though. For example, Rochester, NY had a Bandstand-type TV show that was hosted by Jack Palvino, who years later hired me for my first radio gig in 1983. Unfortunately, many of these local shows were erased because the TV stations would reuse the videotape stock for other programs.

Tony:
You had a great Mom - make sure you buy her a VHS or DVD of Shindig! or Hullaballoo for Mother's Day!

DVDMike:
Do you remember what the New Colony Six & the Buckinghams were performing on that show you mentioned?

Kevin Goins - KevGo

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 12:26 pm:

By the way....
For those who have RealPlayer on your computers, check out these clips from Murray the K's website:
http://www.murraythek.com/tv.html
The Temptations, Supremes, Martha Reeves & the Vandellas and Dionne Warwick are featured.
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By Kdubya (206.126.224.7) on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 01:51 pm:

Hey DVD Mike, you are so right about Lloyd Thaxton, it was a great afternoon show, I always thought of him as a mellow Chuck Barris. As memory serves they looked like kinfolk. Yes the original Soul Train with guest MC Clinton Ghent, Hullabaloo, Shindig, Big Bill Hill were all remnents of my youth. Those were the days.....thanks for the wake up..........and lets not forget Mike Douglas, this guy would have the Tempts one week and Gladys Knight the next...but what really impressed me about Mike Douglas was that he interviewed the guests and they would just sit around shooting the sshhhhhh like it was old home week. By the way Soul Train and Big Bill Hills show were on the new UHF network( channel 26 )which only had these shows and an occaisional Karate movie.......:-)

Kdubya

By Randy Russi (169.139.180.100) on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 02:15 pm:

We had an American Bandstand type show in Miami
called Saturday Hop. One of the disc jockeys
from the radio was host--in one show the guests
were the Miracles (Smokey, Claudette, Ronnie &
Bobby) and the Cookies. Miracles did "Mickey's
Monkey". They also had a few phony artists--
you know when new artists came out no one knew
what they looked like: Bobby Boris Pickett of
Monster Mash was on--he was a black guy!!!!!!
Wayne Newton was on---he was a girl!!!!!
Maybe a phony booking agent booked them. You know
Wayne Newton sounded so much like a female. But
usually they were the real artists because Miami
was a hot spot for entertainment.

By TonyRussi (68.210.2.246) on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 05:04 pm:

Hey Kevin, I have the videos of Shindig & Hullaballoo that matter.Back then there were only a few shows that "our" artist could be on.I'd love to see the "To Tell The Truth" show that the panel had to guess who of the 3 were the real Berry Gordy & then the Supremes came out.That must be from '65.

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 06:41 pm:

Tony:
I hear you...The clip of Gordy & the Supremes on "To Tell The Truth" was aired on the Motown 25 special.

Kdubya:
You are soooo right about Mike Douglas! He had all the righteous guests on his show - Aretha Franklin (singing "That's Life" with Frankie Valli!), Jackie Wilson (performing "Higher & Higher"), the Jacksons (1976 - "Enjoy Yourself") and the Main Ingredient (with the late Donald McPherson on lead, singing "Spinning Around (I Must Be Falling In Love)"). How about Dinah Shore's daily show - she had Teddy Pendergrass & the Blue Notes WITHOUT Harold Melvin (the story was Harold's plane was late and the group, egged on by Teddy, went on without him) - they were singing (of all things) "Bad Luck"! Merv Griffin's show was great, too - Whitney Houston made her debut on his show with Clive Davis and Cissy Houston introducing her to "the world".

We can go on & on about this...

Kevin Goins - KevGo

By john dixon (205.188.209.109) on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 08:02 pm:

hey randy r., I remember when Wayne Newton used to be on the Jackie Gleason tv show frequently and, you're absolutely right, at the time , his voice was disturbingly high. It was not pleasing to hear or watch; he couldn't have been less cool.

I just recently saw the Shindig tape featuring Jackie Wilson and was knocked out. His reworked, slinky version of "Danny Boy" had me grinning from ear to ear. So very charismatic; after seeing all that footage it's easy to understand the 'the black Elvis' tag you often heard in connection with Jackie. One thing's for sure, Elvis didn't have nuthin' on Jackie.

My favorite memory of Shindig is when the Rolling Stones had Howlin' Wolf on the program and they sat at his feet like disciples. I kept thinking at the time "who is this old gravelly-voiced black man that the Rolling Stones think is so cool?" Then the boys "Little Red Rooster" and it was downright creepy. Brian Jones' slide guitar sent chills up my neck and Mick singing about dogs barkin and hounds howlin; it shook me up and I went out the very next day and bought "The Rolling Stones Now" LP.

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 08:06 pm:

John Dixon:
"...One thing's for sure, Elvis didn't have nuthin' on Jackie [Wilson].."

Agreed, my friend.

Kevin Goins - KevGo

(PS - Did you get the CD I sent you? Let me know if you did or did not - kevingoins@juno.com)

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 08:08 pm:

PS to John Dixon:
You mean to tell us you bought "The Rolling Stones Now" LP and not Howlin' Wolf's "The Real Folk Blues" on Chess?
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By Marv (152.163.205.77) on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 08:15 am:

And in 70's Detroit we had THE SCENE! host by Nat Morris on WGPR channel 62. This is the very first TV performance of Madonna I had scene in 1982!

By Chancellor of Soul (63.78.189.114) on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 12:40 pm:

KevGo:
The " Shebang" episode I saw at the Televsion
& Radio of Brenda Holloway & The Temptations
was in color.

Mike Boone
(Chancellor of Soul)

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 01:01 pm:

Chancellor/Mike:
No surprise...Like I said before, if the show was taped in 1967 (fall of that year) - which it looks like it was - more than likely it would've been in color because that's when most of Dick Clark's productions switched from black & white.
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By Steve Litos (209.100.86.4) on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 02:52 pm:

I have A DVD of Hullabaloo, that has the Supremes and Marvin Gaye. Marvin sings (lip synchs) "How Sweet It Is" to a new backing track cut by West Coast musicians. Quite honestly, it (the backing track) sounds a bit like Sam Cooke and very unlike Motown. Anyways Marvin sings and dances with all the Hullabaloo Dancers including my favorite - Lada Edmund Jr. Wow! Could she move!

DVDMIKE - Have you ever gone downtown(Chicago) to the Museum of Broadcast Communications? It's in the Chicago Cultural Center on Michigan avenue. For $2.00 you can go there and watch a tape of Lloyd Thaxon. I'm almost sure he's there along with a tape of early Soul Train. They also have a bunch of PBS Soundstage on tape (but not all).

By TonyRussi (68.210.2.246) on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 05:24 pm:

Was the Lloyd Thaxton Show done in Chicago?I guess I just assumed it was in LA.

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 06:28 pm:

Tony:
Lloyd Thaxton Show was taped in Los Angeles and syndicated across the country for at least two years.
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By dvdmike (12.84.102.123) on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 07:52 pm:

KevGo: I don't remember what songs those groups did. This was after all around 1967 and memory fades a bit.

Kdubya: The original host of Soul Train was Don Cornelius, Clinton Ghent took over when Don moved to L.A. to host the syndicated version after the first season. Clinton's show stayed around for a few years. One of the more memorable shows that Ghent hosted featured The Ebonys perfoming "Making Love Ain't No Fun (Without The One You Love"). This had to be in 1976.

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 08:22 pm:

dvdmike:
If it was 1967 the Buckinghams could've performed one of their Columbia singles ("Don't You Care", "Hey Baby") or even "Kind Of A Drag" which was a #1 national hit.
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By douglasm (68.113.13.31) on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 09:28 pm:

...and The New Colony Six could have performed "Things I'd Like To Say"....

By Kdubya (206.126.224.7) on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 08:39 am:

DVD Mike , I know I said guest co-host of the Original Soul Train. Sorry if I confused anyone. Man If only folks could see that show, with the cardboard cut out of the famous train and poor Clinton did not have good command of the King's English and he always appeared to be looking for the one camera (smile) Man those were the days of nik-nik, shirts, polyester bell bottoms/platforms and fro's to die for. The one thing that has never changed is the Soul Train Line.......Dick Clark could'nt compete.

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 10:50 am:

Kdubya:
...and Dick Clark was smart enough not to try to compete...
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By janebse (68.63.4.162) on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 10:33 pm:

Are any of these tapings of Shebang available to the public to buy?

By Soul Sister (65.43.153.219) on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 10:55 pm:

Does anyone remember Ralph Cooper's show on PBS channel 13 in N.Y.C. called SOUL ? I remember when Smitty & The Manhattans were on with Spanky & Our Gang in the spring of 1970. Or how about The Clay Cole Show out of N.Y. the summer of 1960 he broadcast his bandstand type show live from Palisades Amusement Park in N.J. I saw alot of great shows there including a 12 year old Stevie Wonder doing Fingertips. Or go further back to Bill Cook's Stairway To The Stars???

By dvdmike (65.208.234.61) on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 07:02 am:

Does anyone remember the original theme to "Soul Train". It WAS NOT "TSOP".

By Randy Russi (169.139.180.100) on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 09:17 am:

Yes, it was SLOW and kind of had a guy calling
out "soul train" with a whistle sound.

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 12:15 pm:

SoulSister:
I remember the SOUL show on PBS very well - my family & I watched it every week. Wilt Chamberlin & Muhammmed Ali were guests and remember seeing Curtis & the Impressions perform "We're A Winner" and "Choice of Colors", the Delfonics' "Didn't I Blow Your Mind This Time" and Al Green do a funky medley of "We've Only Just Begun/Let's Stay Together" which was featured on his CD boxed set.
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By Common (209.2.55.170) on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 12:23 pm:

Hello everyone,

Does anyone in the NY area remember a show called "Soul Alive"(I maybe wrong about the show title) & it was hosted by Chuck Leonard, who was a DJ at WABC in the late 70's? I recall seeing Ashford & Simpson, Rick James & Sarah Dash singing "Sinner Man" on the program.

Peace!

By Common (209.2.55.170) on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 12:33 pm:

BTW, the show came on noon on Saturdays & came on channel 11 (It used to be call "11 alive") here in the city.

Peace!

By MotownForever (152.163.252.68) on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 01:56 pm:

...and does anyone remember "Ebony Affair"? I remember it used to come on right before Soul Train on Channel 5 in NYC on Saturday mornings. It was a half-hour show. I forget who hosted it, but I remember the Dynamic Superiors doing "Shoe Shoe Shine"; Sylvia doing "Pillow Talk"; and Ann Peebles doing "I Can't Stand The Rain" among others. Not sure if it lasted a year or 2, but I know it didn't have a long run. Man, I'd love to see those shows again!

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 04:33 pm:

MotownForever:
I have two episodes of "An Ebony Affair" a friend of mine copied for me. The Moments hosted one show and Betty Wright hosted (as well as performed) on the other. These shows featured the Gary Toms Empire ("7-6-5-4-3-2-1 Blow Your Whistle")and Jimmy Briscoe. The quality of the tape is okay - not great.
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By motown_david (64.12.97.7) on Saturday, May 17, 2003 - 05:54 pm:

Just wanted to confirm that my videotaping of shebang with Brenda Holloway and the Temptations is in colour and is just terrific.
David.

By Karyl (206.134.248.146) on Saturday, May 17, 2003 - 06:54 pm:

Speaking of old music/dance shows, does anyone remember the HyLit show out of Philly in the late 60s? It used to come on late Saturday afternoons. That's where I first heard the song, Boogaloo Down Broadway by Fantastic Johnny C and to this day I always associate that song with HyLit!

By Soul Sister (65.43.150.250) on Saturday, May 17, 2003 - 07:03 pm:

Kev-Go;
I'm told we met before (from a couple of people) at Felix's Roseland gig. Not sure if we were there at the same times(?) Anyway, Do you know how to get those SOUL episodes today? I would love to have the program with my late X "Smitty"on it. I've been thinking about that show for years.
Soul Sister

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Sunday, May 18, 2003 - 10:27 am:

Soul Sister:
I don't know how to get the "Soul" show other than writing to WNET-TV here in NYC and finding out who produced it (ususally the original producer owns the program). You may be able to find the show at the Museum of Television & Radio as well.
Maybe we did meet at Felix's Roseland gig. It must have been years ago because I went regularly from 1995 to 1998 & from then on I only go once in a blue moon. Send me your email address so that we could talk more and exchange numbers if you want (kevingoins@juno.com).
Regards,
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By Soul Sister (65.43.150.250) on Sunday, May 18, 2003 - 11:12 am:

Kev-Go;
I think Ralph Cooper produces it but don't know where he is today..(?)As "Blue" (of Manhattans)tells me.
I'll send you my email, tho'I'm pretty busy between the road and booking gigs for my ol'man Jimmy Scott. We will have the longest stretch of time off for the next month then we'll be back on the road, Isreal, London,Japan (a couple weeks tour),back home to Boston & Los Angelos that takes us up into mid-August.
I was at Felix's gigs 1997 Anniversary of Stars, I got Eugene Pitt to attend, Steve & Felix have been good friends for a long time prior years, Also at the Radio & Television Museum gig,
and a few of the Roseland dances when Vonnie & Bobby Eli, Becky & Timothy Wilson , & others attended.
Steve & I keep in touch since I moved out to Ohio 3 years ago, I even mentioned him, Mary, & Felix in Jimmy's biography (smile) they got a kick out of that.
Will email you later, got to take Jimmy to get some passport photos for the Japanese consulate.
Take Care, S.S.

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 02:43 pm:

Soul Sister:
We did meet when Bobby, Vonnie & Timothy were at the Rhythm Revue and that was years ago. It's good to hear from you again.
Looking forward to the email (please take your time)and enjoy the sushi when you & Jimmy hit Japan.
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By Chancellor of Soul (63.78.189.114) on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 03:10 pm:

Hey Soul Sister,
I don't know if you remember me but I was
backstage, at Felix Hernandez's gig in 1997. I met you
though my friend Steve Nicholas around the same
time. I just wanted to say hello. It's been a
long time since I've seen you. Hope you been okay.

Take care,
Mike Boone
(Chancellor of Soul)

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 03:20 pm:

Hey Chancellor:
Send me your email address - I have an idea I want to run by you (kevingoins@juno.com).
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By Soul Sister (65.43.150.250) on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 03:39 pm:

Hey Mike !
Sure I remember you & your red jacket thats famous! You told me your mother or grandmother took you to see James Brown when you were 4 years old at the Apollo, and asked me for one of my JB photos from back in the day at his house, I sent one to you, you did get it a few years ago didn't you???
Hope your doing well. Do you still go to Felix's events?
Steve & I had a great time hanging out when Jimmy last did a gig in N.Y. last month, we went to Moon Cruiser oldies record store on City Island in search or 78s & 45s, I was lucky to find some of Jimmy's 78s on Royal Roost.
Good to hear from you Mike, I guess you didn't know it was me on the other thread before.
Take Care, Jeanie

By Soul Sister (65.43.150.250) on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 03:45 pm:

Kev-Go; Sure will! Sushi is my favorite food! Good talking with you again Kev, I've been enjoying your hip threads.
S.S.

By Chancellor of Soul (66.207.40.18) on Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 12:49 pm:

Hey KevGo,
Just sent you my e-mail address

Peace,
Mike Boone
(Chancellor of Soul)

By Brother Love (12.65.127.165) on Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 03:11 pm:

The producer of the PBS show SOUL! was Ellis Haizlip and he no longer alive. Many of the tapes are in DC at the Smithsonian. SOUL! was a great show, I have a few of them and everytime a veiw these tapes I have to say, why don't we have a show like this today?

By Soul Sister (65.43.150.250) on Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 03:47 pm:

Brother Love;
Thank You for the answer. Do you have the tape with The Manhattans on it? Or would you Know if is possible to get a copy?
S.S.

By Brother Love (12.65.126.4) on Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 08:34 pm:

Hey sister Soul Sister go sister, I do not have that show. The only place to check would be the Smithsonian, best of luck, I know it's out there somewhere.

By Soul Sister (65.43.150.250) on Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 08:59 pm:

Thanks Brother Love !