By MEL&THEN SOME (217.14.178.59) on Friday, April 25, 2003 - 12:22 am:

Can anyone give me any info on these labels and artists etc.please.
Black Rock Records.
As far as I Know,this was part of Uptight productions.
Label as far as I also know is Black with pink/red colour.
Sounds I know on this label.
200 Little Rena Scott.
I Just cant forget that boy
UP-T-2.
Set Me Free
UP-T-6.

2001 Chuck Armstrong
A Better place
UP-T-9.
See Saw Love
UP-T-10.

2002 Butch and the Newports
out of my hands
UP-T-11.
I'm Only A Man
UP-T-12.

2003Rod(organ grinder)Lumkin
High Society
UP-T-15.
I Dont know why
UP-T-16.

2004 Fugi
Sweet Sweet Lady
UP-T-13.
'' ''PT2
UP-T-14.

Notes.
a)no.2000 also came out on The Grand Junction Label.
b)no.2002 B side also cut by Gaslight on Grand Junction.
...................
New Moon Records.
Label yellow and Black.

NM 0001 Joe Matthews
Little Angel(thats what you are)
NM-0001-A.
I Had to Moan
NM-0001-B.

NM 0002 Joe Matthews
I Got Chose
NM-0002-A.
Cause I Love you
NM-0002-B.

NM 0003 Rudy Robinson
The last time your family had a party
NM-0003-1.
The Hungry Five
The Splibit(split)Time
NM-0003-2.

......................

Star Track Records.
address as I have it is
5727 14th st.Detroit.
Label red/silver
102 red/black.

M-101 Lee Jennings
Just keep on loving me
1168-A.
'' ''(INST)
M-101-B.

M-102 Sue and Mel
We started this thing together
M-102-A.
I Cant Make it
M-102-B.
...............................

Northern Del-La Records.
Label red with black lettering.

T-501 Calvin Williams
It wont matter at all
T-501-A.
Lonely you'll Be
T-501-B.

T-502 Thelma Laverne
Baby Dont you Leave Me
T-502-A.
? T-502-B.

T-503 Calvin Williams
Going and get it(bring it to you)
T-503-A.
Jimmy Landers All Stars
Going and get it(inst)
T-503-B.

.......................

Any info etc fully appreciated
with thanks
Mel.

By RD (63.188.32.104) on Friday, April 25, 2003 - 12:30 am:

Jimmy Landers relocated to Cleveland in the sixties and has been a fixture in night clubs for decades.

I remember seeing Lee Jennings lip synching "Just Keep On Loving Me" on Ken Hawkins (WJMO) World of Soul television show, also in the sixties.

By Joe Moorehouse (64.12.97.7) on Friday, April 25, 2003 - 10:53 am:

Mel, Star Track records, like Whip, was just another label used by Sonny Marshall at Dotty's. In fact, the Gail Nevilles record was released on both Star Track and Dotty's, though of course there are very few copies of either around. But I think Lee Jenning (as he is billed on that record, though his name does actually have an S on the end of it), Sue & Mel, and Gail Nevilles represent the total output of Star Track.

RD, it's likely that the person you saw as Lee Jennings on Cleveland TV wasn't actually Lee at all, but his cousin. Just as the record was being pressed, Lee was drafted and had to leave for boot camp, then Vietnam. When the single became a hit in Cleveland, Lee's cousin went there and pretended to be Lee--did bunches of live shows in various clubs, etc. Lee himself didn't find out about it until much later, and he never returned to Detroit after getting out of the army.

By MEL&THEN SOME (212.159.54.199) on Friday, April 25, 2003 - 12:17 pm:

RD&Joe,
many thanks for your info.
mel.

By acooolcat (61.58.83.13) on Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 01:29 am:

Mel - New Moon may have been owned by the late Rudy Robinson. I think there's a connection with Flip-o records.
Graham

By RD (63.188.33.32) on Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 01:41 am:

Interesting story Joe. I wouldn't have known the real Lee Jennings from a fake one anyway. Was Lee's cousin a bit older than Lee? The guy I saw looked a little old for the draft. Where did Lee lived after he left the service? Ken had mainly obscure artists on his show. I remember seeing Roger Hatcher once and Rog and Ken played it up like Hatcher was in the midst of some cross country tour with gigs galore.

By MEL&THEN SOME (212.159.48.238) on Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 04:06 am:

Thanks Graham,
I was told a long time ago that Rudy Robinson may of been the owner of the Label,so that fits in nicely with your fine self also mentioning it.

Joe,
have been looking through some Detroit material and as you rightly said,
Lenny Jennings on Dotty's(no.347)but I dont have an actual flip side to it.
Was it a single sided record?

Can you or anyone give me any quick info on these Detroit labels?

This is what I have written down and have had for years,so any errors rectified would as ever,be fully appreciated.

Cool School Records
part of La Beat productions.
Address down as 6072,14th Street,Detroit.
Label yellow with Brown lettering.
Listed is
P-2001-A&B.
Don Hart&James Shorter/its in my mind-come here baby.
p-2002/3.
Don Hart&The Fyve
keep on holding on/I can make it.

..............................

Burt Records
part of the Magic City set up.
Label with a blue background and silver lettering.
Listed is
4000-A Soul Tornadoes
go for yourself AR-1074-1.
4000-B Funky Thang AR-1074-2.

4001-A Al Johnson
sittin'around B-001-A
4001-B Soul Time B-002-B.

..................................
Exit Records
a subsidary of Mahs.
1001 Duke Browner-Wait S-2179.
'' '' -Return S-2180.
ALSO
E-00015-A
Eddie Willis-Shake Loose 6302131.
Starmakers-Answer Me 6302132.

....................................

Stacy Records
addressed at 2616,Puritan,Detroit.
Label yellow with black lettering.

S-2616-A
Combinations Inc.
I Got to go S-2616-A
Adam and Eve S-2616-B

S-2617-A
The Hunter&His Game
how you get higher 438-1-A
How you get higher(inst) 438-2-B

..........................................
Lovelite Records
01-Lovelites
My Concience/Man in my life.

02-Lovelites
bumpy road ahead/love is pretty.

03-Patty Hamilton&Lovelites
The way you treat me baby/my baby loves me.

..........................................
And just 1 more,
Mid Town Records
was it situated at 443,Navahoe,Detroit?

I Know I have relevent info regards some of the labels mentioned,but my eyes are like Clarence the Lion's,
from out of that old tv series called 'Daktari'
Apologies if the series wasnt shown in the u.s.of a.
But it was a cross eyed Lion.

Well thats all for now.
Thanks for any in-put at all.

Mle/err Elm,nope./MEL.
(Said my peepers were all crossed)

By Davie Gordon (193.122.21.42) on Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 11:05 am:

Mel,

Lovelite was a Chicago label.

Burt operated out of Detroit but was distributed
nationally by Excello in Nashville.

I'll see what info. I have on the others later.

Davie

By MEL&THEN SOME (212.159.54.201) on Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 11:26 am:

Many Thanks Davie.

By acooolcat (61.58.83.13) on Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 07:38 pm:

Mel,
The Soul Toranadoes' 45 was also released on Magic City; the Burt release actually made number 39 on Billboard's chart in November, 1969.
Graham

By MEL&THEN SOME (217.14.178.84) on Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 09:52 pm:

Cheers Graham.

By LG Nilsson (213.89.30.85) on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 10:24 am:

Mel,

I have two copies of Dotty's 347. One yellow label and one white/blue/red. They are ordinary singles with A & B-sides.

A LEE JENNINGS "Going And Get It (Bring It To You)
B HUTMEN "Going And Get It (Bring It To You) Instrumental

By MEL&THEN SOME (212.159.49.93) on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 11:19 am:

Great stuff Lars.
many thanks.

By Keith Rylatt (217.137.107.14) on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 12:24 pm:

What was the exact address' of Star Track, does anyone know please? I have the following 5725 then 3927 14th.
Also RALPH or anyone, I have seen a business report on ERNSTRAT PRODUCTIONS INC / ERNSTRAT ENTERPRISES INC / ERNSTRAT MUSIC BMI / 350 COPRPORATION and it says that when you and Al took over in Jan 66, you `inherited` 46 songs and 7 labels!! Meadowbank, Top Ten, Ernstrat, Do De.... but which 3 others please....(the Tera Shirma label had yet to be invented). Thanks Keith.

By LG Nilsson (213.89.30.85) on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 12:34 pm:

Keith,

On Star Track 101 address is 5727 14th Street... on Star Track 102 it is 5725 14th Street!... pretty close!

By Keith Rylatt (217.137.91.10) on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 01:31 pm:

Thanks Lars. For old times sake, could you or anyone help me out with other label address please? As mentioned on the forum before I am trying to conclude a new book about Detroit R&B / Soul '55 - '75 and need address for as many of the labels I am listing. here are the A's I don't have -
`KO` Knockout
3 L's
Act IV
Adelphi
Alcor
Algatine
All Brothers
All Rite
Amazing
Amon
Amtomac
Annie
Anything & Everything
Astra
Atila
I have address' for 26 others begining A.
Thanks Keith

PS Lars,could you E mail me your phone No please? keith.rylatt@tesco.net

By JSmith (212.39.231.20) on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 06:43 am:

As it's connected with this thread.
What can any of the Motorcity residents remember about the following outfits............
Young Sirs 67 Magic City
Butch & Newports 71 Black Rock
Gaslight 70/1/3 Grand Junction; 75 Polydor
Mad Dog & Pups Magic City 67/8
All featured Oliver Cheatham as did the later outfits, Roundtrip (MCA; 81) & Oliver.
He later went solo and cut the anthem "Get Down Saturday Nite".

By ME (68.42.209.170) on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 03:03 pm:

HUTMEN: Joe Hunter, keyboard; Milton Bruer(sp), guitar; AJ Sparks, drums; Michael Henderson, bass.

(information from AJ)

By LG Nilsson (213.89.30.85) on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 05:18 pm:

Mel,

Yes, Mid-Town Records was situated at 443, Navahoe, Det, Mich 48215. That's the address on the singles I've got. Label red with black lettering.

Lars

By medusa9e (66.73.7.3) on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 08:21 am:

Does anyone remember Lee Rogers? he put out the record "I Want You To Have Everything"and it was on "D-Town" record label. Was that a local Detroit Record Label?

By LG Nilsson (213.89.30.85) on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 03:11 pm:

Medusa9,

I do not "remember" Lee Rogers... but I found him on D-town when I collected local Detroit labels. I have 34 singles on D-Town, five of them are recorded by Lee Rogers. It's a great local 60's Detroit label. Label designs are mostly yellow with black lettering, but I have also got orange, light blue and red... I'll post any scan here if you are interested...

Lars

By MEL&THEN SOME9 (212.159.49.71) on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 03:18 pm:

Great artist Lee Rogers,
apart from D Town he also recorded for
Mahs Records.
Wheelsville Records.
Premium Stuff Records.
mel.

By Ian W (194.75.128.2) on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 07:12 am:

Lars, we're always interested! I've got a few D-Town 45s with as many different label designs but I've never seen a blue label!

By RD (63.188.33.229) on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 07:33 am:

"I Want You To Have Everything" was the late Lee Rogers (nee Roger Craton)most successful record receiving airplay and some sales outside of the Detroit area. Another Rogers' tune that achieved some regional play was "Sad Affair." The Precisions' "You're Sweet" made its way to a few other cities too. But the rest of D-Town/Wheelsvilles output stayed mainly local and Michigan.

By acooolcat (61.58.181.126) on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 11:30 am:

"I Want You To Have Everything" actually made Billboard's R&B chart - #17 - in '65.
Graham

By LG Nilsson (213.89.30.85) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 06:18 pm:

Ian,

Here�s the blue D-Town for you.



I like this side better than the A-side �Little Lotta Lou�

Lars

By acooolcat (61.58.181.126) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 08:40 pm:

Lars - Do you D-Town #1044?
Graham

By Ian W (194.75.128.2) on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 07:53 am:

Thanks Lars! As usual, a great scan. Maybe one day I'll hear it too!

By Davie Gordon (193.122.21.42) on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 02:27 pm:

Nice scan Lars,

Looks like one of Mike Theodore's earliest credits. Would you mind posting the B-side's
writer credits - my database has an insatiable appetite :-)

Davie

By David Meikle (62.252.128.6) on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 03:01 pm:

Hi Mel

Stacy was based in the Angott Distributors building on Puritan.

Amazingly, Angott are still there.

David

By LG Nilsson (213.89.30.85) on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 03:24 pm:

Other side of the D-Town single. I Think this is the A-side



Mel, I don�t have D-Town 1044.

Lars

By STUBASS (205.188.209.109) on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 03:34 pm:

MEDUSA9E: A LITTLE LEE ROGERS STORY I'VE TOLD BEFORE!!!...I WAS ABOUT 17 YEARS OLD...WORKING A SHOW WITH POSSIBLY "THE STRIDES"...OR MORE LIKELY SOMEONE ELSE!!!...I WAS PLAYING BASS AND LEADING THE BAND!!!...THIS SHOW COULD HAVE BEEN IN FLINT OR WINDSOR...ONE OR THE OTHER!!!...I GUESS I WAS DOING GOOD...BECAUSE LEE ROGERS...WHO WAS ALSO ON THE SHOW...CAME UP TO ME AFTER THE SHOW...COMPLIMENTED MY PLAYING AND BAND LEADING ABILITIES...LIKED HOW I KEPT IT "NICE AND TIGHT...AND ASKED ME IF I COULD GO TO TORONTO WITH HIM THE NEXT WEEK FOR SOME SHOWS...TO PLAY AND LEAD HIS RHYTHM SECTION!!!...WHILE I WAS INDEED FLATTERED...I HAD TO TELL HIM THAT I COULDN'T MAKE THE GIG...I HAD TO BE IN SCHOOL (12TH GRADE) ON MONDAY MORNING!!!...I REMMEBER THAT HE WAS A VERY NICE GUY!!!...STUBASS

By David Meikle (62.252.128.6) on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 03:49 pm:

Good to hear something of Lee Rogers Stu.

Thanks
David

By LG Nilsson (213.89.30.85) on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 01:26 pm:

This is the first Lee Rogers singles on D-Town:



This design was used on almost all early D-Town releases. Colors were usually yellow and black. This is the only orange I�ve got on the first design.

Lars

By David Meikle (62.252.128.6) on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 04:20 pm:

Lars

I love this design.

The colour scheme goes brilliantly I think. As does the yellow version.

Beautiful, just like Mike's music.

Thanks

By Larry (12.80.121.201) on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 02:03 am:

Lars-O-Lars!!! To Sweden with Love!
Thanks.

Guys,

What do these M. Hanks records sound like? Were they popular back in the day??

By LG Nilsson (213.89.30.85) on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 04:04 pm:

Larry,

If you compare the D-Town singles with the Motown ones from the same time you will find that the Motown releases were more sophisticated in sound. D-Town is more bluesy and �down to earth�. Motown was very well produced pop/soul music. D-Town was rough R&B. There are exceptions of course, but I only give you the big picture.



This Lee Rogers issue was released in the later yellow design� more to follow� if D-Town records were popular at the time? I cannot say. But if you look at the national Billboard charts they were not. Maybe someone from Detroit can answer if they were local hits.

Lars

By David Meikle (62.252.128.6) on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 04:07 pm:

I think that is a great question Lars.

Unquestionably, Larry, Mike Hanks is one of the most important people to be featured on this site.

His contribution is immeasurable.

I hope some serious information emerges on him in the next couple of years.

By MEL&THEN SOME9 (217.14.178.98) on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 12:38 pm:

I love all of
Lee Rogers
at the moment I am playing
'our love is more'.
mel.

By LG Nilsson (213.89.30.85) on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 06:50 pm:

All the ZTSC releases from the Columbia pressing plant on D-Town I�ve got are yellow with no special graphics around the label mark.



Anyone here on SD got some other ZTSC designs?

Lars

By LG Nilsson (213.89.29.129) on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 03:42 pm:

I just listened to a lot of Lee Rogers and other D-Town singles. It must have been about 15 to 20 years ago last time I listened to this single. Don�t know much about her� This Lillian Dupree track is a very Motown / Ric-Tic / Groovesville sound alike record.



Both sides are good. Other side is �(I�ve Got A) Shield Around My Heart�. This later label design has the white field around the D-Town logo.

Lars