By Sly fan (67.119.52.20) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 03:47 pm:

Okay gang..here are just a few of the people who either played drums and sing or started off as drummers to become singers..I'll start with the following:

Stevie Wonder
Prince
Phil Collins
Narada Micheal Walden
Walter "Clyde" Orange
Jeffery Osborne (who appears on Smokey's "Virgin Man" lp as the drummer)

okay folks..take it from here....

By Davie Gordon (193.122.21.42) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 03:55 pm:

Pete Rivera of Rare Earth
Jerry Plunk of the Flaming Ember

By Sly fan (67.119.52.20) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 03:58 pm:

Davie: what ever happend to Flaming Ember?? Jerry was a baaaaddd drummer. Westbound #9 is an all time favorite and so is "Gotta Get Away". Their lead singer was really good too...

By Joe (216.23.183.2) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 04:03 pm:

Karen Carpenter
Mel Torme
Ringo Starr
Keith Moon

By Ritchie (62.254.0.9) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 04:10 pm:

Don't forget Marvin Gaye. He drummed at Motown before he sang!

By Fury13 (209.69.165.10) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 04:23 pm:

Jim Osterberg >>> Iggy

By dvdmike (12.84.120.28) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 04:39 pm:

Philly drummer Charles Collins sang
As did Grady Tate

By Sly fan (67.119.52.48) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 04:57 pm:

good calls folks!! wow I didnt know Karen Carpenter was a drummer, wow!! I didnt know Charles Collins either...Grady Tate..yes..how could I forget..He was the drummer and singer for the "funky" sessions of ABC's "Schoolhouse Rock", I learned my multiplication tables because of him!!

Maurice White ...who was the drummer for "Rescue Me" by Fontalla Bass as he was for countless other Chicago sessions...Also for The Ramsey Louis Trio...

By Sly fan (67.119.52.48) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 04:57 pm:

correction: Ramsey Lewis

By Soulpuss (24.102.217.36) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 05:13 pm:

TEDDY P. STARTED OUT AS A DRUMMER.

By Dick Gamble (216.93.77.71) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 05:59 pm:

Don Henley drummer/singer The Eagles

Don Brewer drummer/singer Grand Funk Railroad

By Eli (151.197.209.200) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 06:19 pm:

Sly...Jerry Plunk WAS the lead singer of Flaming Ember. Charles Collins essentially replaced earl Young as the drummer for MFSB'w second tier which were:
Charles Collins..Drums
Michael "Sugar Bear" Forman and Jimmy Williams..Bass
Bobby Eli and Dennis Harris..Guitars
Vince Montana and Ed Shay..Vibes
Larry Washington and David Cruse.. Percussion
Ron Kersey, "Cotton" Kent.. Keyboards

By Sly fan (63.207.60.239) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 06:27 pm:

Hi Eli!! Yes, I am familiar with the personel changes throughout the years (being the big Philly fan that I am) but I didnt know that Charles Collins was a singer first.

Was Karl Chambers still playing in some of the mid 70's sessions?

Did Jerry Plunk pass or leave the group?? I noticed you put "WAS".

By g-wiz (68.43.16.115) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 06:32 pm:

jerry plunks wife died ,and inspired him to write a song called "reservations for one at a table for two"i thought it was a smash,but johnny powers shoped it around and coulnt get a deal,was around 1980 or so,that man can flat out sing

wiz

By Eli (151.197.209.200) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 07:11 pm:

Buddy Miles
Genya Ravan (Goldie)

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 07:25 pm:

Sheila E
Willie Bobo
Dennis Wilson (Beach Boys)
Mel Torme (played drums & piano as well as sang)
Buddy Rich (made his vocal debut in the 1970s on his RCA recordings)

Kevin Goins - KevGo

By douglasm (68.113.13.31) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 07:40 pm:

Lionel Hampton ever sing?

By dvdmike (12.84.120.28) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 07:44 pm:

Lionel Hampton liked to sing when he played

By MEL&THEN SOME (195.219.7.5) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 08:09 pm:

Jimmy Castor can play a mean set of drums when he wants,
as well as sing and play almost every other instrument going.
Mel.

By Friday (63.208.113.37) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 08:11 pm:

What type of vocal work did Charles Collins do?Where can it be heard?He played on some top 40 records out of philly but was mainly and primarily a jazz drummer,evidenced in those records.His time was suspect due to physiological problems and later substance abuse problems.

By Sly fan (67.119.53.38) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 08:21 pm:

Mel: Good call..Jimmy was the man!!

Hey Leroy!!!

By acooolcat (210.200.105.227) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 09:06 pm:

Melvin Davis

Graham

By Eli (151.197.209.200) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 10:22 pm:

Friday..
We must not be talking about the same Charles Collins. Our Charles has impeccable timing and never had any substance abuse problems, and furthermore, this forum is not one where negative comments are appreciated especially when unfounded!!!

By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 10:40 pm:

*HOW* DID YOU ALL MISS THIS ONE...DAVE CLARK OF THE "DAVE CLARK FIVE" (I'M IN PIECES...BITS AND PIECES)...YOU KNOW...THE GROUP THAT WERE COVERED BY ANOTHER GROUP CALLED THE BEATLES...YOU *HAVE* HEARD OF THEM...HAVEN'T YOU???...GEEZ!!!...STU

By Friday (209.245.116.225) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 11:11 pm:

I knew that was coming from Bobby Eli but those are the facts and there indisputable.Everyones entitled to their opinion.I do appreciate your loyalty to your fellow musicians.He was a charismatic individual but became an active nose candy participant effecting his timekeeping.It's really noticable on Thom Bell's Temptation album.There's a few cuts on there where he rushes,comes down,goes back up(his body was out of whack).Again,he was a jazz drummer,this cannot be disputed.I have read many posts where peoples personal lives and habits were exposed mainly by yourself Bobby Eli(Tony Bell,alcoholism and mental illness,and others).This report about CC is in the same manner.He got exposed to a very unhealthy environment outside of philly and he dove in.Obviously this topic has struck a nerve with you so I'll leave it at that.Hopefully that's all behind CC now.

By Eli (151.197.61.232) on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 03:53 am:

Friday... Just who the f**k do you think you are to pass judgement on someone who you do not even know?? I think that your attitude is completely
uncalled for and I would suggest that you go out and get a life!!!
Better yet, I will have Charles come on the forum himself and you can tell him directly just how much you know and feel about him about him.
I can tell by the way you speak, you must be a self professed musical scholar..albeit an asshole!!!!

By dvdmike (65.208.234.61) on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 07:13 am:

Come on people, take it easy!
Take a deep breath and count to ten.
RELAX
RELATE
RELEASE

By moosicman (152.163.188.68) on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 07:29 am:

Why should "people" take it easy when it's Bobby Eli who's over the top--again? And, as usual, unchecked by the board moderators. Why did he curse and call Friday an asshole...his morning medication didn't kick in?

By Lynn Bruce (65.60.202.214) on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 11:01 am:

Probably because Mr. Eli is a stand up guy that does not like to see people trash the reputations of friends that he respects.
Good for you Bobby!
Lynn

By Amused (64.12.97.7) on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 12:24 pm:

Let me get this right Lynn. It's ok for you and some others on this forum to disrespect posters by calling them names and cursing at them cause you're "standup guys" but nobody else can do it, right?

Where are the forum police and the posters who are so quick to set straight others who have done what Mr. Eli did? Why haven't they said something to Bobby? What Mr. Eli accused Friday of doing he has himself done on this same forum many times. Where were you then Lynn? Judging from your other posts I don't think you know your brain from your foot.

By Michael/Cleoharvey (160.79.83.208) on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 12:29 pm:

Don't forget the great Chaka Khan, who started out as a drummer. Years ago when she was performing at Belmont with Rufus I saw her take to the drums and she was major. Even her vocal licks are drum-influenced.

By MEL&THEN SOME (195.219.7.20) on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 12:46 pm:

Who needs a war in the middle east,
when theres plenty of contenders appearing on our threads.
Its getting pathetic.
Amused/moosicman.
The reason these guys are taking no shit is because they have all been there.And when someone slags of a personal friend then they will give it to you with both barrells.
Everyones entitled to an opinion,but does Friday know the person personally before stating the stuff that he did.
Obviously not,as Bobby was offended.
Now Lynn is getting flak.
At least Bobby and Lynn have the balls to give there proper names.
If you want my name let me know and I will call personally.
all these bad vibes going down,
Lets get to the music.
Mel.

By Jim G (12.47.224.12) on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 01:10 pm:

Friday, unless the information contributes something meaningful to this thread, you ought not to post it.
Trashing someone in public is not justified by the fact that 'someone else did it too'.
Before you offer 'opinions' or 'facts' of this nature you might want to think about what you're doing, and why you're doing it.

By Eli (151.197.162.78) on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 02:58 pm:

Once again, all you "experts" and you do know who you are, must remember.. not to toot my own horn but I was and am part of a musical legacy that includes some wonderful and talented , stand up people who do not deserve to be called "druggies"
and they do not deserve any negativity associated with them.

As I have previously stated, Charles will come on to SD and you can direct any and all questions to him one on one.
Dont forget..I was there from day one, were you???
If you cant get with the program then you do not belong on this forum.
I will not recind my previous statement either.
Get your facts straight and get a life!!!!!!

To those who support me, thank you kindly!!

By Kegtapper (65.58.39.193) on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 03:13 pm:

Also
Maurice White (of EW&F)
When he was in the Ramsey Lewis TRIO-

Marvin Gaye-
Played Stevie Wonder's 'I Call It Pretty Music'


Peace Out!
EC Mayo - Kegtapper

By Sly fan (67.115.75.26) on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 04:17 pm:

Mr. Bobby Eli, I have nothing but RESPECT for what you and the whole MFSB camp of writers,
engineers, interns, etc did for us music lovers and lovers of LIFE....


Dont give into the negativity, its not worth it..There's always somebody talking trash..You are way bigger than that my man...

One thing for certain is that Mr. Charles Collins is a DAMN great drummer!! Thats all that counts!!


Lets keep it positive and keep adding these names..I am loving it!! I am still tripped out about Karen Carpenter being a drummer..wow..

"Time for livin, Time for givin".


Peace,
Sly fan

By dvdmike (12.84.141.54) on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 05:14 pm:

Is all this bickering over now? I hope so 'cause I hate this. Bobby has known Collins for many years and I'm sure he would know better than any of us and if he says the guy is straight, he is straight. Now, let's get back to the music.

By Friday (63.208.118.129) on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 05:52 pm:

Eli,you have accused me of what you've done many times on this forum to the point where you said something derogative towards me.It's more like who the f do you think you are.Sadly to say you do have a need to toot your own horn and for some reason you think your the only one who knows anything musically.Get a life you said,I can see the kind of life you lead by the amount of time you spend on here.My name is Friday Mel and I did know CC personally Eli.CC's background was in and with jazz ensemble.The records "Use ta Be My Girl","Enjoy Yourself","Mama Can't Buy You Love","Your Gonna Miss My Lovin'" and even "Native New Yorker" all of which he played on were all jazz drum performances.You don't have to be an expert to hear this.I detect some enabling going on with you.It's nothing personal just objectivity.These are the facts and their indisputable.I shared something here and it offended you.Maybe what you've read here is new news to you but what I've shared above is truth.I have never posted information like that before on this forum but based on what I've read here mainly by you I didn't think it would cause this much of a problem.Maybe we can both learn from this because if I was Tony Bell's brother and read what you wrote and exposed about Tony on this forum I'd kick the living shit out of you.Sorry Ralph(please do not delete this post,thank you,Friday)

By Moosicman (152.163.188.68) on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 06:20 pm:

Click this link Mel.

http://fjdwebserver.phila.gov/fjd/repl/zk_fjd_public_qry_00.zp_main_idx

It's the Philadelphia Civil Court Docket. Type in somebodys name from the Philly area and you'll get more information about them then they want known. This is why I never reveal my real name on forums. Identity Theft is rampant and I don't want my personal business easy to access. Lots of cities have their civil and criminal dockets online.

By Eli (151.197.162.78) on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 06:27 pm:

Friday...IS THAT A THREAT??????

By PhillyGroove (152.163.188.68) on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 06:29 pm:

I don't believe anyone's yet mentioned the great Earl Young whose drumming defined The Sound of Philadelphia. Mr. Young is also a bass singer and provided the bottom notes for The Trammps (and still does, I believe, when they step out).

By Eli (151.197.162.78) on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 06:29 pm:

Thanks Sly Fan!!!!

By douglasm (68.113.13.31) on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 06:33 pm:

Speaking of drummers....
......Karen Carpenter eventually stepped out from behind the drums, didn't she? Or did she play on the records, but not in concert--and was she replaced in concert by someone we'd know?

By Eli (151.197.162.78) on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 06:41 pm:

Thanks Mel!!

By Eli (151.197.162.78) on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 06:45 pm:

On Karen C.. I think that Hal Blaine played on most of the early hits, although Karen was an excellent drummer indeed.


Philly G..
Earl is indeed a fine bass singer and prior to his drum career he sang with the Exceptipns and then the Volcanos and finally the Trammps.

By Friday (209.244.232.219) on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 07:27 pm:

Take it how you want,for that matter you need all the support you can get(mel and sly fan),you and all your jibberish.

By MEL&THEN SOME (195.219.7.102) on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 08:27 pm:

No problemo Bobby,
Any time mate!
Friday!
I can support myself,
It will be a sad day when and if I needed any
body to stand in my corner.
Everyones said there piece,
So lets get back to the music
How about
Brownie Maghee's brother for a mention.
'Stick's'Maghee and his drumming and singing on the classic,
'drinkin'wine-spo-de-odee
drinkin'wine'
Regards
mel.

By Eli (141.151.2.62) on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 11:17 pm:

James Gadson

By Sly fan (67.115.74.118) on Saturday, April 12, 2003 - 12:48 am:

Thats right!! I forgot James Gadson!! He did "Loveland" and he cut a solo joint on the CREAM label thats sounded like "Loveland" pt2...


Eli..I gotta give you and the camp some serious props once again..I just picked up the Major Harris "Jealousy" lp and maaaaaaann that album is awesome!!!.. I particularly love the title track "Jealousy" (good call on the 8min. version)...Beautiful work once again!!

By acooolcat (210.200.105.227) on Saturday, April 12, 2003 - 02:10 am:

David Ruffin

Graham

By Eli (151.197.113.4) on Saturday, April 12, 2003 - 10:08 am:

Sly Fan.
Thanks for being a Philly fan too!!
Your comments are truly appreciated.
We had such a great time making all of that music
and the cammeraderie was second to none.
I miss all of the great musicians who have departed all to early.

Speaking of that topic,Fat Larry was a singinging drummer.

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Saturday, April 12, 2003 - 10:55 am:

I've been away dealng with father issues again and just read this thread. Please settle down everyone. Friday, you have to understand where Bobby is coming from. Bobby, I don't think Friday was trying to be malicious.Things just got a little out of hand. Friday, because Bobby was there and knows the guy, let's give him this one. I know from personal experience things that have been written or said of people I have worked with are out of whack at times. It happens. We have a Tammi Terrell issue on another thread. And by the way, Amused, I try and deal with everyone fairly regardless who they are or what their status is at Soulful Detroit. I resent the implication.

By Sly fan (67.115.73.113) on Saturday, April 12, 2003 - 04:26 pm:

Eli..Thank You and the camp for making our lives a little bit better and giving us good times!! ...You can just listen to the production and tell that there was a respect for music in general but the musicans too..everybody shined...

I wish they were here too...especially Larry Washington..awww man.. I can hear those congas now...

Yes, I forgot Larry was a singer too, is that him singing on "Act Like You Know"?? I have always wanted to ask someone about this..maybe you coluld help me Bobby..what is the story on "Act Like You Know" and "Help Is On The Way" by The Whatnauts??

By Friday (65.59.96.111) on Saturday, April 12, 2003 - 07:39 pm:

1)Obviously he didn't know him that well 2)he calls me an asshole,which was way out of line.It's a miracle I didn't rip into him.3)Mel, I was referring to Eli needing support not you.I've enjoy your posts very much.Alot of solid information.4)Jim G,the only motive was to report information like so many others have done on this sight.5)I'm out of here.There's so much I'd like to say regarding Eli but I know Ralph wouldn't post it.I'll stop by to say hello to Babbitt and see how he's doing,maybe ask him a few questions and maybe post a little Tiger and Red Wing information but other than that I'm gone.Friday

By Eli (151.197.31.155) on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 01:50 am:

Sly , the singer on Act like you know and Zoom is the great Freddie Campbell who is a fine Gospel singer now.

By Friday (209.244.233.122) on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 02:25 pm:

One last final post for Bobby Eli:I am from Detroit and studied under drummer/arranger Andrew Smith receiving instruction in drum and orchestral arrangement.Secondly I will now disclose information on which you derogatorily reacted with me.In 79-80 CC began playing for an artist named Tim Curry who was coming off an acting performance in the Rocky Horror Picture show.Thru this environment he was exposed to the above mentioned drug and began indulging.His mood and playing was greatly effected.He did a few projects in the early 80's but soon moved to Ca where his career as a studio musician eventually ended,he currently resides in Texas.I remember you Eli,you were an unloved obnoxious bullshitter and still are,it's all over this forum.The only asshole is what you see everyday in the mirror(he needs to hear it Ralph).Lastly,I hope Tony Bell never found this site because the shame and physiological effect communally would of killed him-no pun intended.I hope you find what you need in your life Eli.Peace

By stephanie (64.63.221.45) on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 04:46 pm:

I normally dont comment on stuff like this but Im going to say something. As far as Friday is concerned even if Bobby Eli was or is a bull****
whatever I think that his talent speaks for itself and that is why he is here to share. If you were so secure in yourself you would not feel that you would have to expose anyone whether Bobby did or not. Im not here to relish in tidbits of my idols or performers lives. I like gossip like anyone else but when things get slanderous a la your comments its time to put it to a rest. I dont care if Bobby or Dennis Coffey or Russ robbed a bank Id still want to hear their musical tales from jail....if you have a beef against Bobby or anyone on this board I think we should all just forgive and forget life is too short and it aint worth it!!! I saw Bobby Eli and ALL of us can carry on and have fun and Friday either go as you said or lets talk music and not personal crap.......if the personal crap is relative its one thing but if its not spare the mud slinging..
Stephanie
no disrespect to anyone..

By drums (68.80.23.97) on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 05:02 pm:

Hello all out there!!

You guys forgot about two kick@#$ drummers that also were bandleaders!

Bootsy Collins (One Nation under a groove anyone?)
Roger Troutman (Zapp!!)

And to my brother Bobby Eli - We love you here and out in real life!! NEVER let the negativity get you down. There is so much bad going on in life today. You and some of the others here bring happiness to us poor schlubs that wish we could do a 10th of what you have done.

All I am saying to all here is that we should learn from each other to keep the MUSIC first. That is what is important.

And by the way, When are we gettin together for that concert!!!

You are the MAN!!!

Daren Metz
Sony/Studio 4

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 05:09 pm:

Friday,
Stephanie is telling it like it is. Whatever you think of Bobby his track record can't be denied. I think you owe him the respect he deserves from that perspective regardless of your personal feelings. As far as what I allow on the forum, you've got to know that if it weren't for your valued participation here and you were someone new, yes I would have zapped your comments in a heartbeat. Out of respect to your longevity here I have allowed you to have your say. Now I think it's time all the name calling and mud slinging has stopped.

By Vonnie (152.163.188.68) on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 05:12 pm:

FRIDAY YOU HAVE SAID ENOUGH. HOW OLD ARE YOU 13? BE A MAN MY SON.


Vonnie

By drums (68.80.23.97) on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 05:15 pm:

Hi Ms. Vonnie!!

Daren Metz

By BradFieldsSr (172.128.118.236) on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 05:25 pm:

No longer do anybody here have to ask the question, why do celebrities get away with murder cause it's happening on this thread. Bobby Eli curse at and called a poster an A-Hole and most of you are defending him despite the fact that Eli has done the same thing he accused Friday of doing more than once. My parents taught me that wrong was wrong regardless of who does the wrong. An apology was due from Eli to Friday a long time ago.

By stephanie (64.63.221.45) on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 05:39 pm:

Well Ill tell you what Brad..I will apologize to Friday on behalf of Bobby Eli...Im sure Bobby is sorry even if he does not want to say so....now lets kill this thing..
Stephanie

By Friday (65.59.98.123) on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 05:52 pm:

Obviously Vonnie you haven't read any of this thread and I don't appreciate you referring to me as son,I'm a solid adult man.Read BradFieldsSr's post above.Who would let someone saying something like that just go.What I posted needed to be said.I'm not questioning his track record-it's there,even though he still has a need to hear and let others know what he did.He needed and needs to apologize.Maybe his post should of been zapped.He needs to do what he does best and just make music.

By Caleb (64.157.71.63) on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 06:42 pm:

What is this?I've read this thread.Eli's been a part of records in the 70's as a writer,producer and guitar player but does that give him the right to call this guy an a-hole.Then he's referred to disrespectfully as a 13 year old son by a Vonnie.I have read his comments and he doesn't sound 13 years old to me.He sounds perceptive,insightful and in reality-very solid.I respect him.I think an apology would be in order.It doesn't sound like he's going to be around here anymore anyway.That's sad because I liked his posts.Caleb

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 06:47 pm:

OK, I think we need to leave this between Bobby and Friday now. It's up to them to decide what they want to do with each other. Let's stay out of this. Please.

By Friday (64.157.73.50) on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 09:36 pm:

There won't be any need for it.Ralph you seem like a great guy.I have enjoyed so much this forum learning more about Babbitt,great information from Dennis Coffey and now even Ray Monette.Everything I posted on this thread is true and for what it's worth I enjoyed the records Bobby Eli was a part of in the seventies,it was a part of my youth.I wish you all the best Ralph with you,your father and your family.Friday

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 09:47 pm:

Thanks Friday. I hope all this works out between you and Bobby. I really do think it was just one of those little misunderstandings that seem to blow up out of proportion on the forum from time to time. If I had my druthers I wish you wouldn't leave. You have been a valuble contributor here and your presence will be missed. Think it over.

By Caleb (65.59.102.84) on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 11:58 pm:

There you have it.If someone called me an a-hole I'd rip the person and leave too.All the best to that guy.

By MEL&THEN SOME (195.219.7.25) on Monday, April 14, 2003 - 10:01 am:

Friday,
no need to leave the sight man,
I enjoy your posts.
Lets get back to the music.
Mel.

By Vonnie (67.40.203.32) on Monday, April 14, 2003 - 12:52 pm:

Friday and Caleb,

There was no disrespect with the term son. In New York if you are any age, guy or gal you call each other son. It is a term of endearment here, sorry it does'nt have the same meaning in other parts of the country.

Vonnie

By Eli (151.197.184.19) on Monday, April 14, 2003 - 01:19 pm:

Well said sister Vonnie!!

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Monday, April 14, 2003 - 03:11 pm:

Vonnie's right guys. I use the term all the time. So Bobby and Friday...I would really like you two guys to try and smooth things out. You'll make this old Detroit Dago happy.

By Sly fan (67.115.72.52) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 03:58 pm:

Eli: Freddie Campbell..wow..that dude can blow!! I am glad to know he is still singing.."Act Like" and "Help Is" are really feel great good records!!

By David Meikle (62.252.128.6) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 07:43 pm:

Some of you might not believe this but I just caught this thread tonight.

I was struck that a post on April 10th by "Friday" was the first on this thread to make accusations of a negative nature to someone.

Now I agree that we may (or may not) get it wrong on the perfection of forum moderating.

For goodness sake can you imagine how difficult that is?

Bobby Eli is a valued member of this forum. It is a privilege to have him on here. I find his postings, on the whole, informative and compassionate.

I am going to be honest here and say that I am not a great fan of posters who hide behind aliases. I thank you Eli for not doing that.

I also admire Ralph for sticking with some of these postings. Like many people, Ralph likes Bobby, I therefore think he went beyond the call of duty in leaving some of this crap on file.

Ten people, plus Lowell and myself, finance this site.

Please don't fuck us about!

David

By Caleb (64.157.68.233) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 09:17 pm:

From what I read the crap was posted Apr 11th at 3:53am.I love the records Bobby Eli was a part of but have been waiting to see what he was about internally.He probably could care less about that guy Friday and will probably say something here about me now.That guy Friday is gone now.Eli called him an a-hole and in return reaped a little what he sowed.Would of valued him much more if he apologized.I'm just the type of person who values character more than musical success.I'm sure I'm going to be hearing it now.The whole thing is a dead issue now anyway,the guy's gone and that's that.

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 10:23 pm:

Caleb,
I really thought this issue was history. Please try and see Bobby's side here. He KNEW the guy in question here. He worked with him. He loved the guy as a friend and respected him as a musician. The facts may or may not have been accurate but Bobby is made of something much more than skin and bone. He is a musician of the highest order and has a track record most of us in the business would be proud to call our own. If he seemed to go off a little fast he was merely defending someone that he knew and worked with for many years. Could things have been handled a little Differently? Maybe. But Bobby has SOUL Caleb and he doesn't want to see the good name of a friend besmirched in public no matter what the facts. You must admit you would want someone watching your back just like that.Now let's please leave this be.

By Caleb (64.157.68.162) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 10:38 pm:

It's a done issue.Peace

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 10:49 pm:

Peace Caleb.

By Grant (216.39.176.82) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 12:32 am:

Hes anyone mentioned Stevie Wonder or Maurice White?

By john c (12.2.233.107) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 01:02 am:

Nigel Olsson, Dave Grohl. Bootsy played drums for Funkadelic.