By Joe Moorehouse (64.12.97.7) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 01:00 pm:

Just saw on another list that Edwin Starr has died. No details.

S.O.S.

By Common (209.2.55.170) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 01:06 pm:

Please let this be just a rumor! :o(

By John Lester (81.132.33.230) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 01:12 pm:

Rest in peace Edwin

....and thank you for the music.

By TonyRussi (68.210.2.104) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 01:17 pm:

Is this true? Any info would be appreciated.

By Dave Fleming (62.253.128.5) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 01:18 pm:

Very sad news indeed,he died of a heart attack aged 60,one of the true Greats and one of
Soul`s nicest Gentlemen he will be deeply missed,our
thoughts go out to Edwins family and his wife Lilian.
Edwin Starr RIP.
Dave f.......

By Ritchie (62.254.0.9) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 01:23 pm:

This is very bad news. Edwin's S.O.S. first got me into the music. For this I'll be eternally grateful. He kept the flame burning for us. R.I.P, Edwin - we will miss you so much.

By Davie Gordon (193.122.21.42) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 01:31 pm:

Terrible news - I'm too shocked to say much at this minute. I'll never get the chance now to tell him how much I loved "If My Heart Could Tell
The Story" and soooooooooooo many others.

Rest in peace, Edwin.

By Motownboy (12.158.230.250) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 01:33 pm:

Where did you see this posted??? Anyone??

By Motownboy (12.158.230.250) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 01:34 pm:

Did this come from message board or a news agency??? Let's not jump to conclusions without confirmation....

By Ritchie (62.254.0.9) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 01:37 pm:

HW has posted the news on the Motown board. I think we can probably take that as confirmation.

By Common (209.2.55.169) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 01:40 pm:

Oh my! This is terrible news. My sympathies & condolescences go out to Edwin's family. This is very sad! R.I.P. ((((((((Edwin Starr)))))))))))

By Motownboy (12.158.230.250) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 01:40 pm:

Ritchie,

I saw his post on the MBB. He also said he was trying to confirm this as well.

What would convince me is if it came from a news source like Yahoo, BBC, Billboard online..., etc.

By David Meikle (62.252.128.6) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 01:42 pm:

This will be one long sad thread,

Like Ritchie, my love of Soul Music really took off when I heard one of Edwin's songs on Radio Luxembourg in 1968. It was "I am the man for you baby", a song you never hear people talking about. Well I loved it.

When I bought the 45 the flip side hit me even harder, "My weakness is you".

At the Twisted Wheel I "discovered" "Back Street" on the turntables. It was the epitome of what we were into.

"Agent double-O soul", "Headline news". The albums "Soul Master", "25 miles". I could go on and on.

Everbody laughed when I bellowed "You're still the greatest Edwin" at the Apollo in Glasgow in 1976.

He always will be.

By Andy Skurow (65.116.80.21) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 01:53 pm:

I am simply in tears, and I cannot find the words. I am so thankful for Edwin's entire body of work. But the man himself will be greatly missed. Again, it's just too soon.

Usually, when I have a down day, H.A.P.P.Y. Radio brings my smile out everytime. Edwin's voice moves me to the core. I also laugh whenever I see the episode of Seinfeld which jokingly connects the book War And Peace with Edwin's War. At the moment, it hardly seems appropriate, but it's all I can think about. I am so happy he was recently featured in Rhythm, Love and Soul.

Rest in peace Edwin, you will forever be Agent 00 Soul. We love you.

By Dave Fleming (62.253.128.5) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 01:54 pm:

Motownboy Sorry and sad to say it`s true it was on local BBC East Midlands news,and also confirmed by Edwins promotions manager here in the UK.
Dave f........

By JSmith (195.93.50.9) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 01:57 pm:

Another great one has gone.

By stillsoulin (81.132.163.8) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 02:05 pm:

such a loss,too many great songs. he died of a heart attack so i am informed.
rob hurcomb uk.

By TonyRussi (68.210.2.104) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 02:12 pm:

This is really a sad day for music.His voice was so powerful & full of raw soul.May God Bless his family.

By Sue (63.85.105.20) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 02:13 pm:

Guys,
He really sounded great on the PBS Special, I'm shocked. Where was Edwin living, in the U.K.?

By MEL&THEN SOME (195.219.7.41) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 02:17 pm:

Jesus,
I thought this was a wind up.
Unbeleivable bad news to say the least.
I saw Edwin 7 times and have never ever known him to do a bad show.
Way back in 1973 I sat and spoke with him at an all-nighter after getting past his bodyguard,and what a genuine guy he was.He signed my paper peace/Edwin Starr.
The last time I saw him was in our Town of Ormskirk where he did a gig at a public house and the whole town was there to see him once more set the place alight.
Even when he did H.a.p.p.y. Radio the place was bouncing.I am totally depressed on hearing of this sad news.
Edwin was a Legend on the rare/northern soul scene.Appearing at all the major all-nighters over the years.You name it,he did it.
The Wheel.
Up the Junction.
Torch.
Casino.
and all the many other all-nighters and early soul venues.
His records are second to none.
A complete professional at all times.
I will miss you Edwin after all the great,great music and preformances that I was lucky to see you at and also meeting you with guys like Snake Davis etc all talking away like we were all mates.
R.I.P.Charles Hatcher.
Mel.

By Motownboy (12.158.230.250) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 02:18 pm:

Oh wow, I guess it's true... Just this morning on the way to work I was listening to Edwin's duet with Blinky "Oh How Happy." I recently saw him on the PBS 'Rhythm, Love & Soul" concert.... If there is any consolation, he is in a more peaceful place.....

By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 02:24 pm:

Sad indeed. Thank Goodness, they brought him over to the States to make the PBS special. The greatest special to date. RIP Edwin.

By Carl Dixon London (62.31.40.155) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 02:26 pm:

This is an enormous shock. This gentleman has remained at the top of his profession and lived in the UK supplying us with great soul music for many years now. He is an icon and has held the beacon for great music and Northern soul, by delivering great performances one after the other. His charm and abilities are renowned in the business and respect for him just grew and grew as the years went on. I take this as a personal tragedy and am devastated. My sincere thoughts go out to Lilian, his family and his great backing band 'The Team'. His music will live on forever in our hearts.

By GrahamD (62.254.0.10) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 02:26 pm:

Edwin you will allways remain in our hearts!thank you for your contribution to the world of music and entertainment,you will be sadly missed.
R.I.P. you are a true Soul Master.
Luv&Peace. Graham&Rosy Dexter.

By David Meikle (62.252.128.6) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 02:32 pm:

Now announced on the UK text sites for BBC and ITN.

Edwin was living in Nottingham I believe.

By BankHouseDave (195.93.50.9) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 02:38 pm:

This is awful news. I saw Edwin in Cheltenham last year with Martha and Freda Payne and he was truly great. His career has been consistent, his talent obvious from his earliest recordings and his generosity and warm personality reached across to everyone. What's more, in the UK especially, he kept the music alive across the decades, bringing ever more generations of fans and becoming the personification of Motown and soul for those of us who were around the first time. Most of his music was joyous; all of it uncompromising. Good God, y'all - Stand up and shout it: Thanks, Edwin, from the bottom of our hearts.

By GrahamD (62.254.0.10) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 02:44 pm:

David,according to Itn news Edwin lived in Tammworth,and his Uk manager is a lady called Lilian Kyle,also Edwins age as been conformed at 61 years old.
Tibutes have allready started to flow,this oone is from Suzi Quatro a native Detroiter who pays tribute Quote:Edwin was the best! there was no one better to grace the stage,and he also was one of the nicest men you will ever meet. GrahamD

By David Meikle (62.252.128.6) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 02:48 pm:

Yes Graham that rings a bell.

For Sue, it spells Tamworth.

Thanks
David

By motown_david (205.188.209.38) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 02:53 pm:

I have seen Edwin so many times in concert in England over the years and his show was never less than great.
I shall always remember him singing Tracks Of My Tears on the last DITS tour and literally tearing the house down.
This man was soul personified and it's hard to believe that another great has passed away.
God Bless, Edwin.
David.

By Sue (63.85.105.20) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 02:54 pm:

Thanks David -- that's in the Midlands, right? A suburb of Birmingham?

I searched the BBC site and couldn't find anything on Edwin -- can anyone post a link?

By GrahamD (62.254.0.9) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 02:56 pm:

Sorry about the spellig guys but this bad news as affected the old Nogin!(head)I should say!! GrahamD.

By David Meikle (62.252.128.6) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 03:01 pm:

Sue

My references are to a teletext system on TV.

It's difficult to know if you'll find anything on their web pages.

Can anyone help?

David

By GrahamD (62.254.0.10) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 03:03 pm:

Sue try this!
www.ntlworld.com/index.php
hope this helps. GrahamD

By David Meikle (62.252.128.6) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 03:04 pm:

Tamworth is 4 miles north east of Birmingham city limits.
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?addtohistory=&country=GB&address=&city=tamworth&zipcode=&submit.x=0&submit.y=0

By Ritchie (62.254.0.10) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 03:06 pm:

Just appeared on the BBC news website:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2911555.stm

By Sly fan (67.119.52.248) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 03:09 pm:

I was hoping this was another rumor...I am deeply saddened..Lets celebrate his life and what he gave to us with his musical gift..Mr. Starr. I thank you for making me and my family H.A.P.P.Y. for all these years...May Your Soul Rest..

Its ironic because I have been listening to "I Just Wanna Do My Thing" for months..Soul Heaven is having another great jam session right about now...

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 03:18 pm:

I didn't want to comment right away because, as a former journalist, I wanted to check my sources before I said anything.

This is indeed a sad day in music.

Charles "Edwin Starr" Hatcher was one of music's most powerful singers and songwriters, from "Double-O-Soul" to the Shades of Blue's "Oh How Happy" to "War".

Thank goodness our "comrade in arms" T.J. Lubinsky booked him for the Rhythm Love & Soul special where Edwin got to perform with the Originals, Louvain Demps of the Andantes and Dennis Coffey (as close to a Motown reunion as one could get).

Right now, the heavens have a new headliner...may his journey be peaceful.

Kevin Goins - KevGo

By David Meikle (62.252.128.6) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 03:26 pm:

Superb discography by Bosko on Dave Rimmer's excellent site.
http://members.tripod.com/SoulfulKindaMusic/estarr.htm

By FRANCIS T (195.92.168.177) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 03:41 pm:

Terrible news.Edwin I believe had moved from Tamworth, probably following unfortunate big money problems a couple of years back.(Reported in the financial press).Despite problems he continued in his role as Motowns man in England and of course a RIC TIC LEGEND!!He made some brilliant records.Only yesterday I found a great ballad on the west coast ASK label and thought I would question him about it if I should meet him again (I have had the pleasure of meeting him a few times.)Looks like that chance has been taken from us all.A very sad day for all soul fans.

FRANCIS T.

By BCNYC (205.188.209.38) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 03:43 pm:

Here's the report from Skynews website.

SOUL'S EDWIN STARR DIES

Soul legend Edwin Starr has died at the age of 61.

The US-born singer - known for his enduring hits War and Contact - is thought to have died of a heart attack.


He had lived for many years in the UK and died at his home near Nottingham.

Seventies rock star Suzi Quatro, who has known Starr since she was a teenager in Detroit, led tributes.

She said: "He was the best. There was nobody better on stage and he was the nicest man you could ever wish to meet."

Starr was born Charles Hatcher in Nashville, Tennessee. He formed his first group, The Future Tones, in 1957, recording one single before his three-year Army draft.

He was offered a solo deal in 1965.

His biggest success came with his outspoken single War, a US number one in 1970 and number three in the UK, for the renowned Motown label.

He had another taste of chart success at the end of the 1970s with Contact and H.A.P.P.Y. Radio which were both top ten hits.

He performed a pair of shows in Stuttgart, Germany, at the weekend.

Rainer Haas, Quatro's husband and the promoter of the Stuttgart shows, said: "He was just superb. He played to 16,000 people over the two nights and he put on a great show.

"The shows were actually recorded for television so we will have an enduring memory of how brilliant he was live."

Last year Starr performed at the wedding of Liza Minelli and David Gest in New York.

By LG Nilsson (213.89.29.157) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 04:02 pm:

Really sad news. It is already night in Sweden. Tomorrow we will play his music on VINYL 107. I just called my Music Director to change the playlist and inform the DJ's. I play the Soul Master album now with tears in my eyes. Edwin Starr was the reason I started looking for other labels than Tamla/Motown. Ric-Tic was king for many years.



Edwin, rest in peace

Lars

By Vickie (64.236.243.31) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 04:02 pm:

((((((Edwin)))))))

he ws so kind to me on the phone last year...

Love to Lilian

Vickie

By Karyl (207.69.112.60) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 04:16 pm:

This is the link to Edwin Starr's official web site and you can leave a message.

http://www.edwinstarr.info/

By soulie dave uk (62.254.64.5) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 04:21 pm:

Away for a few days. Just logged on now and this is the first thread I've read and I am in shock. Hav'nt got the motivation to read any more tonight. One of the best ever. RIP Edwin and thank you for enriching my life.

By Dave Fleming (62.253.128.5) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 04:32 pm:

In my earlier posting i stated that Edwins wife was
Lilian,infact lilian Kyle was Edwins manager of the last 27 years,and his partner is Jean to which all our thoughts go out to both of them and family members.
Dave f.....

By RD (63.188.33.20) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 04:41 pm:

This is very sad news. I first became acquainted with Charles Hatcher when he attended Kennard Jr. High in Cleveland, Ohio. He was always a clean cut nice guy who set a good example for younger guys like me (by six years). His singing skills created a lot of jealousy from the local toughs in the Outwaithe Homes Projects where he grew up and toughs from neighboring streets. But Charles was fast, he ran track in school, and could outrun his adversaries. He graduated from East Technical High School.

He was the lead singer of the Futuretones Band, which included the late long time guitarist for the O'Jays, Russell Evans. The Futuretones was the areas most popular soul band at the time and played to packed halls and gyms all over Cleveland's Eastside. Charles was a different singer in Cleveland than his future recordings. He sung mostly ballads like "Never Let Me Go," stuff like that. Many of his homies never got use to his high-octane "Edwin Starr" recordings but realized he had to do what he had to do.

I've been trying to contact his sister Patty. But she's married now and nobody knows her last name. After Charles' mother died people lost contact with Patty. Charles contracted prostrate cancer a few years ago, but I don't know if this had anything to do with his massive heart attack. Walter Johnson, who works with H. B. Barnum, said he didn't look good backstage at the PBS Special, and Walter should know--he grew up across the courtyard from Hatcher's and credit Charles' mother with teaching his group, the Donations, how to sing harmony.

He married Annette Tucker from Cleveland and has an adopted son with her. Annette recorded with the Creations on Patty Records in Cleveland.

p.s. I don't have to tell Patty, their announcing his passing on the media in Cleveland as I'm writing this post.

By soulie dave uk (62.254.64.5) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 04:59 pm:

I have just been thinking about how the untimely passing of recording artists have affected me during my life. I was a little to young when we lost Buddy Holly and Eddie Cochrane for it to have any impact. When Otis died I remember I cried and was devastated. As great as Elvis and Lennon were it never brought a tear. But tonight I shed tears for Edwin Starr, a man I have never met but had enormous love and respect for.

By Sly Fan (64.165.226.128) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 05:02 pm:

My Prayers and Love go out to Mr. Hatcher and his family...

Much Love..

By Dennis Coffey (64.12.97.7) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 05:36 pm:

Hello everyone. This is sad news! I saw Edwin perform in London this summer and had a nice visit with him. He still sounded great and looked great on stage. I also played with him on the PBS Special. I had known Edwin since I did SOS with him at Golden World and then War at Motown. He was a great singer and a nice person who worked very hard and made great music. He will be missed. My condolences to his family.

By hitman (195.92.168.177) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 05:37 pm:

Just had a mail from Sidney Barnes who is stopping in Nottingham only a few miles from where Edwin was. He said that he and David Clegg sat and cried and having met Edwin on more than one occasion and chatting with him it just goes to show how fragile life is.
So long good time Charlie they'll be no more "Running back and forth" from now on, but I bet you're already getting bookings wherever you are.
RIP Soul master
Mark Hanson
Soul Up North

By Tony B. (212.56.114.168) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 05:40 pm:

Just the heard the awful news and I'm really shocked. Listening to "I Have Faith In You" as I write. On the UK soul scene, Edwin Starr was a giant and now he's gone. :-(

By Nish (66.119.33.135) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 06:04 pm:

What terrible news. I feel so extremely blessed that I got to meet and see this legend in person - FINALLY - at the Rhythm, Love and Soul show. Thanks for the music, Mr. Edwin Starr. May God bring your family comfort at this difficult hour, and may people continue to enjoy the wonderful body of work you left behind.

By Lynn Bruce (65.60.202.214) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 06:22 pm:

When ever I was feeling a little down,Edwins S.O.S. would get my head bobbing and my feet moving.His singing uplifted a lot of us when we had the blues about something.

I met him once when we backed him at Ginos Falcon Lounge in Detroit. He was a really nice person that didn,t act like a star.He was just warm and friendly to anyone that talked to him.That tells me a lot about a person.He was one of the good guys!
God Bless You, Edwin Starr

By Ade (57.66.46.198) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 06:29 pm:

Just too sad to type tonight

By Sue (63.85.105.20) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 06:39 pm:

61 is too young to go. I think we need to hire someone to go around to check on the health of our soul greats. Singers and musicians lead such a hard life and often have medical "issues" later on in life that they postpone looking after ...

I say we raise money, get Universal/Motown and TJ Lubinsky to pitch in, and hire someone -- SisDetroit? -- to go around making sure everyone's going to the doctor, taking their meds, losing the weight or whatever ...

Don't want any more checking out before their 70s at least ...

By john dixon (205.188.209.38) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 06:51 pm:

it's sadly ironic that on this day I should recieve my mail-order Edwin Starr Millenium Collection CD. It will certainly lend an unexpected poignancy when I listen to it for the first time tonight. Another vibrant soul man gone. R.I.P. Edwin Starr...

By Vickie (64.236.243.31) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 07:01 pm:

I agree Sue...
Talking with some folks for the book made me think that very same thing....

GOd Bless Edwin and all the great legends that went too soon..

By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 07:22 pm:

Sue - That was nice of you to recommend me. I am looking for a part-time job. And I do care about our soul singers. I love them, and they love me. I always wish them well. They call me "Sis."

By stephanie (64.63.221.174) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 07:42 pm:

This is so sad!!! Im so glad that he was able to tour and that he was able to make us so happy with his music....well I logged on to Yahoo and saw this sad news. I was hoping that you all had not heard this but I figured that most people knew....
Well lets just remember him for the joy he brought us and he is in a better place now but I sure will miss him and his HAPPY RADIO...
Steph

By acooolcat (61.222.95.58) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 08:55 pm:

Like countless other music lovers in the UK, it was Edwin who got me into Soul; his S-O-S was one of the few Ric-Tic recordings to be released over in England, and what a timeless piece of music it is.
What a terible loss.
Graham (in Taiwan)

By Mark Speck (65.58.50.124) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 09:20 pm:

The man lived up to his name, to be sure...one of the most talented and classiest men to grace soul music...he will certainly be missed. God bless, Edwin!

RD--are you from Cleveland? I've lived on the east side (Euclid Beach/Collinwood area) all my life.

I just remembered something Edwin said in the interview he did for Soul Survivor magazine. The interviewer asked Edwin why he did a Joe Tex medley in concert. He responded by saying that one reason was that he was disturbed by what he had heard on the radio about Joe. The radio announcer mentioned something about Rick James collapsing from exhaustion, and by the way, Joe Tex died today. Edwin was amazed and shocked that Joe, with all his accomplishments, could only merit a cursory mention. He added, "If that's the best they can say about Joe Tex, what the hell are they gonna say about Edwin Starr?".

I think we've had a lot to say about Edwin...all of it POSITIVE...for a man who always gave 150%, every time. My condolences to his family.

Best,

Mark

By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 09:52 pm:

HEARD THE NEWS THIS AFTERNOON!!!...CONDOLENCES TO EDWIN STARR'S FAMILY...FRIENDS...AND MANY MANY FANS!!!...I UNDERSTAND THAT HE HAD BEEN IN SOMEWHAT ILL HEALTH AS OF LATE...BUT KEPT IT LARGELY TO HIMSELF!!!...EDWIN STARR...REST IN PEACE!!!...STUBASS

By douglasm (68.113.15.28) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 09:53 pm:

Damn....
.....this was not what I wanted to see when I came home from work.
Rest easy, sir.

By Scratcher (65.132.78.66) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 10:50 pm:

R.I.P. Soul Master your music will last forever.

By Nancy (24.101.72.243) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 11:05 pm:

This is a real shock , Edwin I know that you are watching your music will always live on

By Eli (151.197.41.159) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 11:09 pm:

This is just to sad and especially at a time when his songs couldn't be more pertainant.
I had the oportunity of working with Edwin in London in 1986 at Wessex Studios as part of the chorus on one of those "We are the world " type things which he and Steve Mcintosh of the Cool Notes wrote and who's group I was producing at the time.
What a nice guy.
He will be missed indeed.

By Lamont (66.20.156.129) on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 11:40 pm:

It is amazing at work today I started thinking about Edwin Starr for seemingly no reason...then I come home and read this....I am shocked and saddened, may he rest in Peace

By John Barry Sheffield (195.92.168.168) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 01:41 am:

Thursday Breakfast England

I have only just woke up to read the sad news of EDWIN going to join the Big Choir! and sat here alone I feel so sad and cold.

Over the years I worked with Edwin a lot in Concerts and appearances and of course played his music on the radio, what a Guy full of true warmth and energy.

He will be sadly missed, but he leaves us all such memories to hold on to Forever!

Sympathy to His Family.

EDWIN - THANKS!

John

By David Meikle (213.122.204.235) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 03:03 am:

I went to sleep last night with the fantastic lyrics of "Back Street" ringing in my brain.

This morning I woke up to "War"...you know what I mean.

It struck me though that it is ironic that Edwin should pass in the middle of the most hotly disputed conflict of all time. A conflict where peace protesters march to the sound of "War".

A fitting legacy.

Edwin R.I.P.

By David Meikle (213.122.204.235) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 03:10 am:

The Detroit News remembers Edwin.
http://www.detnews.com/2003/entertainment/0304/03/e05-126663.htm

By gary (66.73.238.3) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 08:08 am:

May you rest in peace Agent 00-Soul. Thanks for all the great music and the fond memories they evoke, we'll miss you

By Tony Drake (64.12.97.7) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 08:25 am:

To the family of Edwin,Mr Edwin Star was a prince of a man on and off stage,we are deeply sadden.

By Vonnie (205.188.209.38) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 08:56 am:

I was so shocked to hear the news of Edwin's death. I offer my heart felt condolences to his family. Edwin was a sincere and wonderful person. I had the pleasure of meeting him back in the day and he was a joy to know. He was impressed with my poise and education. He offered me a job as his personal assistant but I was unable to take the position because of my parents objections. I was a young teen and my parents felt that I was too young to be involved in that aspect of the business and they did not want me to travel. I will always remember him as a sincere and honest individual. His talent and great personality has left a lasting impression in my mind. I have always thought of what might have been if I had gotten my parents permission to be his personal assistant.

I will miss his great talent and his faith that he showed in my ability to be a part of the music community. Rest in Peace Edwin you are a star that shines brightly in the heavens.

Vonnie

By curtis blandon (64.12.97.7) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 09:29 am:

I AM DEEPLY SADDENED BY THE PASSING OF Ewin Star to his family and friends my deepest sympathy goes out to them. Curtis Blandon.

By Vonnie (205.188.209.38) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 10:14 am:

I wanted to share an ironic thing that just came to mind. Yesterday or the day before, myself and a co-worker Barbara burst out in song. What did we sing? "War" what is it good for, that is a really telling omen. It also came to my mind that Edwin was a soldier and spent time fighting in a war, and now he has left us during another war.

Vonnie

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 11:13 am:

As I said in another thread regarding Cholly Atkins, if there is ever a time we need Edwin Starr to remind us of what "War" is all about, it is now.

"Peace, Love & Understanding - there must be some room for these things today..."

To think, he (and the Temptations) said this in 1970....

Thanks, Edwin.

Kevin Goins - KevGo

By Russ Terrana (198.178.8.81) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 11:13 am:

Edwin, you were the first person I recorded at Golden World, or any place else. You're a true friend thru the years and I was proud to be part of "War" for the final mix. The main thing I will always remember about you is how positive your outlook on life was. Rest now, you will be missed.
Your old friend
Russ

By R&B (138.238.41.118) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 11:29 am:

ANOTHER LEGEND GONE,THIS IS SAD NEWS,EDWIN'S VERSION OF[KEEP ON TRYIN TIL I WIN YOUR LOVE]IS OUTSTANDING,ANOTHER FAVORITE OF MINE IS[MIGHTY,MIGHTY GOOD LOVIN].WHEN THE GREAT LEGENDS OF SOUL MUSIC ARE MENTIONED THE NAME OF EDWIN STARR WILL BE RIGHT THERE TOO.

By Eli (151.197.47.162) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 11:41 am:

Eli here again.
I just cant get over this untimely occurance.
Edwin was performer with a one in a million voice and a one in a million personality.
R.I.P. my friend.

By Michael/Cleoharvey (160.79.83.208) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 11:58 am:

The magnificent intensity of Mr. Starr's peformances set the stage for many who followed him. And I think it ironic that he died at a time when his "WAR" is as pertinent as ever. We will all miss him.

By David Meikle (62.252.128.6) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 12:13 pm:

This autograph was obtained in the Twisted Wheel in Manchester in the early hours of Sunday 25th January 1970.

Like everyone says, he was a total gentleman. He struggled with my surname, as everyone does, but he told me he really appreciated having a fan in Scotland.

By Sue (63.85.105.20) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 12:28 pm:

That would have been great to meet him in 1970, the year of his monster success ...

Here's a link to a good story I read this morning about Edwin in the Nottingham paper. High blood pressure and diabetes kill so many of our greats:

http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=66056&command=displayContent&sourceNode=65583&contentPK=4985487

By David Meikle (62.252.128.6) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 12:51 pm:

Nice article Sue. Thanks. 4-5 million copies of "War" is astonishing.

Thanks next to Paul Nixon who sends in this beautiful image of Edwin performing in Ipswich, South East England, sometime this year. This is from the Dancing In The Street Tour.

By Carl Dixon London (62.31.40.155) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 01:30 pm:

I have his autograph in my 'Standing in the Shadows of Motown' bass book. Sky TV have an interview with him at Wembley, recorded about 10 years ago, somewhere in their archives and indeed Martha Reeves too! Nice photo,from a great tour, which I witnessed at The London Palladium.

By fayette (205.188.209.38) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 02:06 pm:

edwin starr dead of a heart attack,so hurt by
that. that makes the third person that passed
shortly after taping that oldie program.
different one betty everett,edwin star,
i for got the name of the bass singer from a group that passed. here today gone tomorrow
that's why we should give our singers
their props while they are among our.

so sad today,
fayette

By T.L. Harris (64.152.235.150) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 03:53 pm:

Hello Everyone,
First let me say what a wonderful board this is. I have visited this board many times, but this is my first time to post here. I would like to give my deepest condolences to the family, friends, and fans of Edwin Starr. Edwin Starr was truly a legend. I must also give my respect to the British fans for Taking such good care of Edwin while he lived in England. I am so glad that he got the chance to see how much he was respected and loved. Mr. Starr was indeed a great performer, who got better with age. We will truly miss him worldwide. Rest in peace Edwin Starr.

T.L. Harris

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 04:57 pm:

This was published on Billboard's website today. Expect a more detailled report when the magazine comes out tomorrow (Friday) and Monday.

http://billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1856104

Kevin Goins - KevGo

By Ade (57.66.46.198) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 06:23 pm:

Well I've been playing edwins tunes all day and I still can't get over the loss. what's really frustrating is that, to a lot of people, Edwin was going to be around forever. because of his relentless touring and his never faltering work ethic, he'd almost become ubiquitous on the circuits and so his true class has often been overlooked.

I'll remember him, firstly, for his great voice. Jools Holland said that in all the years he'd ran his live "Later" show, which had featured many legendary musicians and artists, Edwin had been the on ly artist who hadn't needed his voice to be played back to him using stage monitors! What a pair of lungs!

I'll remember him for his warm smile.

I'll remember him as one of the greatest performers who never really received the credit he was due. 110% was for wimps. Edwin gave that in his dressing room warm up.

I'll remember him for his dedication to soul music, regularly championing the passion and knowledge of soul fans to whoever would listen.

I'm attending a soul do on Saturday, where there'll be a minutes silence before "agent OO Soul will be the first tune played.

Just hope I can enjoy the music, dancing with tears in my eyes.

By LUCY (152.163.188.68) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 08:11 pm:

A VERY SAD DAY,INDEED.WE HAVE LOST ANOTHER GREAT ONE.
MY DEEPEST SYMPATHIES TO HIS FAMILY.
MAY GOD WATCH OVER HIM AND HIS FAMILY AND KEEP THEM IN HIS LOVING CARE.

GOD BLESS

By Carl Dixon London (195.153.219.170) on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 01:46 am:

Ade, like you I spent last night playing all the old stuff too. The songs are ageless.

As T.L. Harris said earlier about the British taking care of him, it's true. I remember moving house from Milton Keynes to London 8 years ago. It was hectic and tiring, but we had tickets to see Edwin at The Jazz cafe in Camden that Friday night. We made the concert and as usual it was fabulous. I do not think the reality of this has been realised, certainly by me. Chatting at work and saying yesterday that it was the sound of Motown first, then the artist that attracted me to this music. Then for the first time I realised that Edwin Starr has played a very important role in my life. I have his albums, CD's and seen him at least 5 times in 8 years, met him twice and once he introduced me to his family on their travelling coach, here where I work, after a Christmas party. Call me lucky? You bet! I am so pleased we made The Palladium last year to see him with Martha Revves and Freda Payne. It was the greatest performance of Motown/Invictus music I have ever seen on stage. I was hoping to meet him again soon. I do hope 'The Team' continue to perform and educate me with their music.

By David Meikle (81.135.13.190) on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 02:39 am:

Nice one Ade.

By Jerry Hipkiss (195.188.41.154) on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 05:30 am:

Started the day by playing "I have faith in you" to myself, and I still can't get used to the fact that he's no longer here. Like many on this list, I worked with him several times, and he was the first person I ever interviewed on the radio - he made it so easy for me, we could have kept talking all night. What a gentleman, what a performer - the Soul Master, R.I.P.

By David Meikle (81.135.67.91) on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 06:02 am:

A superb image of Edwin is on Dave Rimmer's site.
From the golden era, I've never seen it before.
http://members.tripod.com/SoulfulKindaMusic/

By Ian W (194.75.128.2) on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 07:06 am:

This is the most devastating news of all! RIP Edwin! One of the most fabulous voices ever! I asked my missus to play SOS at my funeral, whenever that should be! It's one of the most uplifting songs I know. He really put everything into his songs.

By Soul Councillor (193.113.57.165) on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 08:25 am:

OBITUARIES APPEARING IN MOST OFF QUALITY BRITISH PROVINCIAL AND NATIONAL DAILIES TODAY ALSO MANY TRIBUTES ON NATIONAL AND LOCAL RADIO STATIONS SUCH WAS THE HIGH REGARD AND LOVE OFF EDWIN HERE IN UK

By David Meikle (62.252.128.6) on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 03:31 pm:

Two more images from Dave Leedham. Thanks Dave.

By David Meikle (62.252.128.6) on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 03:40 pm:

and a second attempt to upload Paul Nixon's Edwin pic at a better size.

By David Meikle (62.252.128.6) on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 03:54 pm:

Graham sends in a classic. A flip side no less!

By David Meikle (62.252.128.6) on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 03:56 pm:

and 3 more from Graham. The first being the top side of "I have faith in you".

By brianday@cwcom.net (212.137.136.154) on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 04:33 pm:

edwin was the nicest artiste to meet ,he always used to stroll after the show,in his old grey track suit to meet the fans , some artistes dont give the time ,but he was always amazed ,at our knowledge of his music.
i hope the band he created "the team " carry on with his music ,with a stand in singer .
r.i.p.
edwin
you touched us all

By Carl Dixon London (62.31.40.155) on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 12:13 pm:

Great label scans.

Brian, my thoughts exactly about 'The Team'. Something has to be done with their talents. It would be good if they did a tribute song encompassing all the great Motown/Ric Tic songs he recorded. Imagine if The Funk Brothers and The Team and of of course Dennis Coffey got together in Detroit with those technicians who were there at Golden World and Motown, to engineer it, along with a producer(s) connected to those early days. Alan Slutsky could then rest knowing that he had found great musicians and singers to complement his Funk Brothers tour if he came to the UK, plus they could perform their tribute song live on stage with the greatest show on earth. We SoulfulDetroiters would then have the task of trying to get the song played on the radio and raising their profile. If the song charted, it would give them valuable exposure whilst proving that Edwin's songs will be around for along time and introduce a new generation to the sound and cause. The Team would become a recognised act on their own and continue to perform and react with audiences up and down the country keeping the faith wherever they went. Imagine if the song was on the Motown Label!

Any 60's soul or Motown performer wishing to perform over here would have the perfect band 'The Team' to back them, who after all, have been the equivelent of a tight studio band for many years. This should be pursued without a doubt. This would be another way to acknowledge the music of one of the greatest performers in the world, Mr Edwin Starr.

By Carl Dixon London (62.31.40.155) on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 12:33 pm:

I also meant to say that I believe Edwins' son is the musical director of the group!

By stephanie (64.63.221.99) on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 02:51 pm:

Does anyone know when Edwins Funeral is or if he is going to buried in the UK or America?
Stephanie

By Davie Gordon (193.122.21.42) on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 03:50 pm:

Stephanie,

He's being buried in the UK - a private ceremony

By Greg C. (209.71.79.185) on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 11:28 pm:

Met Edwin Starr once in Downtown Detroit back in the 70's. I introduced myself to him and he was warm and receptive. The man was so friendly. A true gentleman. We had the most candid talk about Motown and the entertainment business. A lot of what we talked about that day still haunts me. It was real!

Sorry to hear of his passing. I'm glad and fortunate to have all of his recordings on CD to enjoy and I'm glad/blessed for the opportunity to have spoken to him

By Yan (24.69.255.204) on Monday, April 14, 2003 - 04:23 pm:

I can't believe I only just heard this- I've not been using the internet for about two months; just came back yesterday and this news awaits me. Other people have said it all much better than me- I think those of us here from the U.K will always have a special respect/love/admiration for Edwin: he was such an important man for us. He earned that status not just through his recordings (played "I Want My Baby Back" last night many times) and incredible live performances (the greatest!), but also the way he carried himself and acted towards everyone. A great man.

R.I.P

P.S- Is anyone else now beginning to feel a little afraid whenever they go to open up a new thread with just an artists' name?? I don't want to hear about any more of my favourite artists dying.

By Yan (24.69.255.204) on Monday, April 14, 2003 - 04:46 pm:

RD- I read your post about Edwin's early work with the Futuretones with some interest- thanks. Did he not sing in his wild-style then at all?? I seem to remember Edwin saying that their favourite song to cover was the Metrotones' awesome "Skitter, Skatter"- which is about as manic as doo-wop gets- and would seem the perfect veichle for Edwin's outrageous vocal chords. I'm guessing the Metrotones were from your area; because it always struck me as a pretty obscure song to be covering: was their a link between the two bands? Well, whatever- thanks for posting about a period of Edwin/Charles' life we tend not to hear about.

By RD (63.188.32.123) on Monday, April 14, 2003 - 06:10 pm:

Yan: The Futuretones performed a variety of songs: R&B, doo wop..., but Charles was known as a R&B singer and not the soul-shouter he became at Motown. Motown's M.O. was having singers blow in uncomfortable ranges and Hatcher sounded funny sometimes singing way up there. His Ric Tic releases were well like and all except the last one were big local hits.

The Metrotones, who recorded "Skitter Skatter," were led by Sonny Turner who later replaced Tony Williams in the Platters; Leonard Veal and Robert Shepherd (future Hesitations) were members too.

Turner came up on a street near the projects where the Hatcher's lived. Charles admired Turner (everyone did) and learned a lot from him. He also got schooled--after school--by his late mom who made him rehearse. (Told to me by a neighbor of the Hatcher's whose group was taught to sing harmony by Mrs. Hatcher.) This area was also the stomping grounds of Johnny Moore (Hornets, Drifters) and some of the Five Quails.

The Futuretones performed "Skitter Skatter" so often many think they recorded it; few locals remember the song they did record--"Roll On" on Tress Records. Ask somebody who saw the Futuretones' performed: what record did they make? And they'll usually say "Skitter Skatter," a staple of their shows.

The Futuretones was a hot band and throughout his career Edwin Starr was always backed by a hot band. Some of the most memorable were MotherBrainTree, which featured some future members of Kinsman Dazz and the Dazz Band, and Total Concept Unlimited who became Rose Royce.

By gabriel (80.182.203.91) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 09:20 am:

R.I.P.,Edwin.

By Carl Dixon London (62.31.40.155) on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 03:28 pm:

There is some news, however, regarding 'The Team', Edwins fabulous backing band. According to the website:http://www.edwinstarr.info/ (then click 'welcome'), The Team are to play the Isle of Man scooter rally on May 3rd, in honour of the great man and covering the vocals themselves. This is the news I wanted to hear about them! I do hope they continue to tour and play Motown and soul for us. I am sure they will be in demand.

By Carl Dixon London (195.153.219.170) on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 06:56 pm:

More great photos of Edwin Starr at:

http://www.edwinstarr.info/

Click 'welcome' on the left and go to news and event gallery 2.

Thank you Kyle Management for allowing us to see these.