YOU KNOW YOUR AN "OLD DETROITER" IF...

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Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (64.12.97.7) on Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 02:05 am:

SOMEONE ANONOMOUSLY LEFT THIS LIST IN MY MAILBOX AT WORK...SO I THOUGHT I'D SHARE A FEW FOR NOW...AND SEE IF ANYONE ELSE HAS ANY MORE!!!

YOU TOOK A MOONLIGHT CRUISE TO BOB-LO WITH CAPTAIN BOB-LO OR WENT TO EDGEWATER AMUSEMENT PARK!!!

YOU REMEMBER THE BIG STOVE WAS ON JEFFERSON AVENUE AT THE ENTRANCE TO BELLE ISLE!!!

YOU REMEMBER WHEN NORTHLAND AND EASTLAND WERE *NEW* AND NOT ENCLOSED MALLS!!!

YOU REMEMBER ANY MAYORS OTHER THAN YOUNG AND ARCHER AND YOU KNOW WHO COBO WAS!!!

YOU THOUGHT DRIVING TO SOUTHFIELD WAS GOING "OUT TO THE COUNTRY"!!!

YOU REMEMBER TWIN PINES DAIRY DELIVERED MILK AND JUICE TO THE CHUTE ON THE SIDE OF YOUR HOUSE...AND MILKY THE CLOWN PERFORMED MAGIC WITH THE MAGIC WORDS "TWIN PINES"!!!

WATERFORD AND WALLED LAKE WAS WHERE YOUR NEIGHBORS COTTAGE WAS!!!

YOUR MOM SAVED HOLDEN RED STAMPS...S&H GREEN STAMPS...OR GOLD BELL GIFT STAMPS...AND YOU HAD TO LICK THEM AND PUT THEM IN THOSE LITTLE BOOKS!!!

KRESGE'S AND WOOLWORTHS WERE *DIME STORES*!!!

YOU REMEMBER THE TELEPHONE NUMBER...TYLER 8-7100 (BELVEDERE CONSTRUCTION)..."WE DO GOOD WORK"!!!

YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF YOURSELF SITTING ON THE PONY THAT SEEMED TO MAKE IT DOWN EVERYONE'S STREET...(I'VE STILL GOT MINE)!!!

THERES MORE...BUT PERHAPS SOME OF YOU CAN COME UP WITH SOME BETTER ONES!!!...NON-DETROITERS...SORRY FOR THIS ONE...BUT PERHAPS YOU CAN LEARN A LITTLE ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE CITY WITH THIS ONE!!!...STU

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jim Feliciano in Detroit. (205.188.209.38) on Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 08:00 am:

???... Damn Stu, man you're OLD!!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (64.12.97.7) on Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 09:43 am:

HEY JIM...IT'S NOT LIKE I USED TO GIG WITH ANTOINE D.L. CADILLAC OR ANYTHING...BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THE BOY COULD SING!!!...STU

Top of pageBottom of page   By Dick Gamble (216.93.77.65) on Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 10:23 am:

Who remembers the "Detroit Evening Times" before it became the Detroit Times.

How about the Electric Street cars on Grand River.

The Interurban system

The Detroit City Hall at Woodward and Cadillac Square.

The Wayne County Court House at 600 Randolph

Epps Army surplus store.

I remember going hunting with my Dad around Schoolcraft and 5 mile rd. Not a house for miles...

Ted's Drive In Woodward and Square Lake Rd.

Top of pageBottom of page   By douglasm (68.113.15.28) on Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 10:30 am:

WOodward 3-8925 or TI six, fiftysix, sixtysix.
Two phone numbers burned into my brain.

The "Teen Scene" at the Michigan State Fair, where Motown artists would lip-sink their hits

Something Different, Hideout, Birmingham Palladium, Raven Gallery, Chessmate, The Chalet, Riverside Recreation, Absolute Zero...the beat goes on....

Top of pageBottom of page   By Julian (64.12.97.7) on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 03:48 am:

I remember when Cadillac landed, and Fort Pontchitrain(sp) and when the French lost Detroit to the British, and when the fort burned! The indigenous were ticked about all this!

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (205.188.209.38) on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 03:59 am:

JULIAN...YOU *ARE* OLD!!!...A COUPLE MORE!!!...

YOU SHOPPED AT HUGHES AND HATCHER...B. SIEGEL...PECK AND PECK...HIMELHOCH'S...ROBERT HALLS...CROWLEY'S...SHOPPERS FAIR...EJ KORVETTES OR FEDERALS!!!...

YOU DRANK TOWNE CLUB OR FAYGO POP!!!...

YOUR PHONE NUMBER STARTED WITH UNIVERSITY...TYLER...VERMONT...BROADWAY...KENWOOD...DIAMOND...WEBSTER...OR TRINITY!!!...

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (205.188.209.38) on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 04:01 am:

DICK: I USED TO LOVE GOING INTO EPPS ON LIVERNOIS NEAR MCNICHOLS AND JUST LOOKING AROUND AT ALL THAT CRAP!!!...STU

Top of pageBottom of page   By Julian (64.12.97.7) on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 04:27 am:

Remember when going to Belle Isle from East Grand Blvd you had to go under Jefferson and then you'd "pop up" on the bridge with view of the river left and right? That was cool, they never should have filled that in. Anybody feel me?

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jim Feliciano in Detroit. (64.12.97.7) on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 07:42 am:

Hey, Let's see what local Detroit television was showing on TV....

RITA BELL's "Prize Movie"
BILL KENNEDY "At The Movies"
The "SOUPY SALES SHOW"
"GEORGE PEIRROT SHOW"
"JOHNNY GINGER"
"MILKEY THE CLOWN"
"POOP DECK PAUL"
"BOZO"

And 'gas' stations around the Detroit area you don't see (or even remember) anymore....

GULF
TEXACO
SINCLAIR
PURE
STANDARD
BORON (70s)

Hey, how 'bout these soda pops we used to buy at the corner store (B&B Party Store) on Lawndale Ave., near Navy street, in Southwest Detroit....

HIRES
NESBITT
UPTOWN
VERNORS (Detroit's BEST!)
DAD'S

'Soda Pop', used to be 12 cents a bottle, dropped your bottle of pop and all you had to do was return the broken bottle with the bottled 'cap' intact and you'd get another one... and, "BETTER MADE CHIPS", was only 5 cents a bag!

And remember all those "JOHNSON'S MILK DEPOT" scattered all over the Detroit area? And those 'horse-drawn' "WAYNE CREAMERY" that used to delivery fresh milk daily, to your door?

CUNNINGHAM'S DRUG STORE; E. J. KORVETT'S; GRANT'S DEPARMENT STORE; FEDERAL'S DEPARTMENT STORE; ROBERT HALL'S; and SANDER'S ICE CREAM, A&P GROCERY STORES; CHATHAM FOODS (70s), Detroit had 'em, and boy, I can just go on!

So now you actually know how 'old'... I REALLY AM!

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jim Feliciano in Detroit. (64.12.97.7) on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 07:57 am:

Douglasm,
Regarding your thread above (Saturday, March 29, 2003 10:30 AM) and those two telephone numbers you ran off--

--one was the 'hitline' number, and, the other one was the 'contest' number, phone numbers we would always hear (way back in the '60s) on WKNR... "KEENER 13"!

Top of pageBottom of page   By Dick Gamble (216.93.11.101) on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 09:27 am:

Stubass: I bought all my surplus radio gear from Epps to set up my first Amatuer radio station.Some of it really worked,others sent up smoke. Then I discovered Radio Specialities Co. on E. Jefferson.

Who remembers the Pat and Johnny show on WXYZ(Pat Tobin and Johnny Slagle) the first morning talk show on television in Detroit?

How about the Ditch being build (I-94) leading out to the "Bomber Plant" Willow Run...

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 10:00 am:

THOSE ARE ALL SOME GOOD ONES...AND SPEAKING OF SODA POP...WHEN VERNORS WAS MADE ON WOODWARD AVENUE...IT HAD THAT BEARDED TROLL ON THE BOTTLE!!!NEWSPEOPLE...JACK LEGOFF AND "THE OLE" ANNOUNCER...VAN PATRICK...SONNY ELIOT (LETS LOOK AT THE WEATHER TOGETHER)...AND I DID MAKE MY TELEVISION SINGING DEBUT ON THE POPEYE SHOW WITH POOPDECK PAUL!!!...STU

Top of pageBottom of page   By Lynn Bruce (65.60.202.214) on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 10:23 am:

My biggest treat was going on a streetcar from where it began on michigan ave somewhere in Dearborn,down to Hudsons store at Christmas to talk to Santa Claus.It was truly a magical place at Christmas.We,d then go eat at Carsons cafeteria on woodward.Being able to pick whatever I wanted to eat was a great thing when your a wee little bairn.

You oldtimers must remember: The Auntie Dee show

How about Cowboy Colt: He showed cowboy movies on tv and owned a horse ranch,somewhere near Detroit.

I had at last got a three week gig in Detroit,after months on the road.I was watching the Bill Kennedy show on tv,a James Cagney movie when they interrupted the movie to say Pres. John Kennedy had been shot.Some things are burnt into my mind forever

Top of pageBottom of page   By douglasm (68.113.15.28) on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 10:39 am:

Jim...
....and that's exactly how they were spoken on the radio. Don't remember CK's numbers.

Brown's Dairy. Speedway 79 gasoline. Streetcars up and down Woodward, turning around at the fairgrounds. Dressing up to go shoping downtown.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jim Feliciano in Detroit. (205.188.209.38) on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 10:53 am:

Stu,
Was that called the bearded "troll", we always would refered the 'logo' as the VERNORS 'gnome', so to speak... almost looked a little 'leprechaun-ish', somewhat!

Hey, I remember my father used to take us all(this was in the late 1950s, early '60s) to WHITE CASTLE's, which was located near the (now abandoned) MICHIGAN GRAND CENTRAL STATION on Micigan Ave. near W. Vernor Hwy... hey, those 'steamy' little burgers were only 8 cents apiece, throw in a Coke, for only 12 cents per drink!

Imagine, a sack of 'ten' delicious White Castle's hamburgers for only under... a buck!

And let's not forget these other 'burger' joints that were scattered all over the Detroit area as well, 'WHITE TOWER' and 'TOP HAT', their burgers (their buns were toasted) were only 25 cents, 30 cents for a 'cheeseburger'... and man, were they just DELICIOUS!

Top of pageBottom of page   By Dick Gamble (216.93.11.23) on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 10:56 am:

Anyone remember the Tiger baseball announcers:Ty Tyson-Harry Hielman-Paul Wiliams-Van Patrick-Dizzy Trout?

How about seeing the Lions playing at Brigg's Stadium?

And what about those "Fort Wayne Zollner Pistons"?

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 10:59 am:

Stu,
Regarding the big stove on Jefferson ( Mack Stove Co. ). When I first moved to Monterey I noticed a small stove parts dealer named Mack Stoves. I didn't thing too much about it at the time. a few years later my parents moved out here and their neighbors were Mr. and Mrs. Mack...and guess what? You know the rest of the story.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jim Feliciano in Detroit. (205.188.209.38) on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 11:04 am:

Yea, Dick Gamble... alot of today's Detroit Pistons fans don't really know, couldn't tell 'ya, that's where the team originally had come from... and that was Ft. Wayne, Indiana!

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (64.12.97.7) on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 11:32 am:

WOW...SOME MORE GREAT ONES...THEY COULD BAKE A LOT OF BREAD IN THAT BIG OVEN!!!...BROWN'S DAIRY'S...THE BROWNS LIVED A COUPLE OF BLOCKS AWAY FROM US ON SAN JUAN...AND RUSTY BROWN WAS ABOUT MY AGE...HIS DAD HAD HIM BUILT THIS LITTLE RED GAS POWERED CAR THAT WE WOULD RIDE AROUND ON!!!...TRAGICALLY...RUSTY WAS RIDING HIS 10 SPEED ON LIVERNOIS AND GOT RUN OVER AND DRAGGED QUITE A DISTANCE (SORRY ABOUT BEING SO GRAPHIC)...AND WAS KILLED AT ABOUT THE AGE OF 10 OR 11!!!...THE "OLD" PISTONS...WALTER DUKES...GEORGE YARDLRY...ETC!!!...CENTER PHIL JORDAN...A MISSISSIPPI REDNECK WHO LOOKED LIKE ELVIS...BUT WAS 7-FEET TALL...WAS OUR FRIEND...AND WORKED AT A SUMMER CAMP IN THE OFF SEASON THAT I WENT TO...HE TOO WAS TRAGICALLY KILLED WHILE RIDING A RAFT DURING SOME KIND OF RIVER PARADE IN HIS NATIVE MISSISSIPPI...DROWNING!!!...ALSO...USED TO GO TO THOSE THANKSGIVING DAY FOOTBALL GAMES BETWEEN THE LIONS AND PACKERS AT THE OLD BRIGGS STADIUM...AND I REMEMBER THOSE LONG LINES TO GET INTO THE BATHROOMS TO WARM UP AND PAY WATER BILLS...AND THE HOT CHOCOLATE THEY SOLD WHICH LED YOU BACK INTO THE BATHROOM LINE!!!...MORE LATER!!!...STU

Top of pageBottom of page   By douglasm (68.113.15.28) on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 12:08 pm:

I think I got them right

"When the values go up, up, up
And the prices go down, down, down
Robert Hall's the reason
For savings this season
Low overhead,
Low overhead."

"You're on the right track
To Nine Mile and Mack
To get the best deals in town
"Cuz Roy O'Brian
Has the best deals around."

Jalopy racing at Motor City Speedway on E. 8 Mile. And of course (all together now--"SUNDAY...SUNDAY...) Detroit Dragway.

I gotta quit now. I'm "To POOPED to Participate."

Top of pageBottom of page   By Dick Gamble (216.93.11.41) on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 12:08 pm:

Strohs "Fire brewed beer"
E&B Beer
LaSalle Winery in Farmington on Grand River.
Cadillac Club Wine
"THUNDERBIRD WINE" What's the word? THUNDERBIRD!!!!

Milk deliveries in glass bottles with the cream that came to the top!!

The good humor ice cream man up and down every street..

Top of pageBottom of page   By Sue (152.163.188.68) on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 12:33 pm:

Doug!

Almost but not quite ...

"Stay on the right track/To Nine Mile and Mack/Roy O'Brien trucks and cars, makes your money back ...

Roy O'Brien's got them buyin' and buyin', they come from many miles away ...To save themselves a lot of dollars, dollars, by driving out this way today."

P.S. Those Robert Hall stores were all over the country; I used to hear that commercial in Philadelphia as a little kid ...

Top of pageBottom of page   By douglasm (68.113.15.28) on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 01:31 pm:

Remember the jokes? When was the last time you heard a jock reference "...an all expense paid trip around George Peirrot...."?
"It's 2:00 o'clock, and there's the Bob-Lo boat sinking at the foot of Woodward...." (Ira J. Cook)
Somewhere around here I still have a decal for the "North Woodward Timing Association".

No one has mentioned probably the most famous ad on Detroit TV.
"Which way did he go
Which way did he go
He Went for Fffaaaayyyggoooooo."
(which bacame "Faybo" in the latest Mojo magazine)
I remember WJBK advertising the fact that the spot would be running during their newscast in the late '60's.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jim Feliciano in Detroit. (64.12.97.7) on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 01:57 pm:

Sue,
And of course... Gene Merollis sold alot of 'Chevy' cars back then, that same locale is no longer, been gone under that dealership name... it's now GORDON CHEVROLET, on Ford Road, just west of Merriman in Garden City...

You know, talkin' about Ford Rd. in Garden City, K-MART had opened it's very first store there (Ford Rd. & Middlebelt), sometime in October, 1962... again, that was THE FIRST K-Mart store, ever!

But with the K-mart re-organization of it's stores (and it's massive store closings) filed under Chapter 11, I wonder if that 'historic' store was 'protected', allowed to remain open, or was that particular store ultimately affected-- possibly closed, as was the many hundreds of others?

Top of pageBottom of page   By 65memories (66.72.188.124) on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 02:07 pm:

Van Patrick was mentioned...I remember when he did the Tigers games sponored by Speedway 79 gas and Goebel beer (with Brewster the Goebel rooster). And the mention of Cowboy Colt reminded me of another cowboy host...Sagebrush Shorty.

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (205.188.209.38) on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 10:56 pm:

DIDN'T WE ALL HAVE AN UNCLE IN THE FURNITURE BUSINESS...JOSHUA DOORE...UNFORTUNATLY...THE OWNER...HARVEY LEACH WAS FOUND DEAD WITH A BULLET TO HIS HEAD IN THE TRUNK OF HIS LINCOLN...AND THATS ALL I'LL SAY ABOUT THAT!!!...THOSE GOOD HUMOR MEN WORE THOSE WHITE UNIFORMS...BUT WE HAD OUR OWN..."LEO" THE ICE CREAM MAN...AN INDEPENDANT THAT WORKED OUR NEIGHBORHOOD...HE WAS THE COOLEST...AND USED TO LET US RIDE ALONG WITH HIM IN HIS TRUCK...WITH THE SONGS PLAYING OVER THE SPEAKER!!!...

Top of pageBottom of page   By dave (207.241.133.153) on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 10:56 am:

Anybody else march around the breakfast table with Don McNeil on WJR every morning?

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 11:20 am:

Dave,
WOW!!! What a flashback!!! My brother and I did. My mother had the show on the radio every morning.

Top of pageBottom of page   By douglasm (68.113.15.28) on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 11:34 am:

Alas, no. BUT it's opening day, and I miss the annual playing of Wayne and Shuster's "A Shakesperian Baseball Game" on WJR opening day morning.

Top of pageBottom of page   By StingBeeLee (68.43.129.202) on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 01:32 pm:

Stubass: Sometimes I think about Leo the ice cream man!! Good Humor and Softee would not even come into our neighborhood, because Leo had that area locked down. What a good and kind-hearted man he was. Do you remember what was on the Southeast corner of Livernois and Pembroke? I remember that Northwestern Dodge was on one corner, a Clark gas station was on the Northwest corner, another gas station was on the Northeast corner, and was there a used car lot with a big "K" on the other corner?

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 01:40 pm:

The ice cream amn that had my neighborhood locked up ( 7 mile / Evergreen area ) was a guy that had a converted Jeep for his ice cream truck. We called him the Jeep Man. No other vendor had a chance against him.

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (205.188.209.38) on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 01:59 pm:

HEY STINGBEE: LEO FARBER WAS A NICE MAN...POSSIBLY WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE TIME HE PULLED OUT HIS PELLET GUN AND LET ME FIRE IT INTO A TREE!!!...LEO LOOKED YOUNG...AT LEAST IN THE 50'S AND 60'S...AND WORE A HAT...BUT WAS BALD HEADED UNDERNEATH...AND WE USED TO HARRASS HIM AND MAKE HIM TAKE HIS HAT OFF!!!...MAUREY THE ICE CREAM MAN ALSO TRIED TO CUT INTO LEO'S TERRITORY...BUT TO NO AVAIL!!!...THOSE LANDMARKS YOU MENTION SOUND FAMILIAR...I DO VAGUELY RECOLLECT THE DODGE DEALER AND CLARK GAS STATION...BUT MY DAD USED TO GO TO THE STANDARD STATION ON 7 MILE ROAD AND WARRINGTON...1ST BLOCK EAST OF LIVERNOIS AS I RECALL!!!...SAY HI TO MISS ROBINSON AND REGARDS TO MR. BAUERLY FROM THE MILLER FAMILY IF YOU GET A CHANCE!!!...BY THE WAY...MISS ROBINSON IS PROBABLY STILL A "MISS" BECAUSE OF THE TRAGIC DEATH OF SOCIAL STUDIES TEACHER MR. CANNEY...WHO'S ROOM WAS NEXT DOOR TO MISS ROBINSONS!!!...HE WAS A YOUNG MAN AND SUFFERED A MASSIVE HEART ATTACK IN CLASS...AND WAS ALLEGEDLY ROMANTICALLY LINKED TO MISS ROBINSON...AND SHE TOOK HIS DEATH REALLY HARD...PROBABLY AROUND 1959 OR 1960...WHEN I WAS A LITTLE TYKE!!!...STU

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (205.188.209.38) on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 02:06 pm:

A COUPLE MORE!!!

YOU NEVER PLAYED ON THE ESCALATOR AT JL HUDSON'S DOWNTOWN. YOU RODE THE ELEVATOR...WHICH WAS "RUN" BY AN ELEVATOR OPERATOR!!!

YOU REMEMBER BLACK BART AND THE FAYGO POP SONG...OR HOW ABOUT..."WHICH WAY DID HE GO???...WHICH WAY DID HE GO???...HE WENT FOR FAYYYYYGO!!!...

YOU ATTENDED A WEDDING RECEPTION OR BANQUET AT ROMA HALL OR THE RALEIGH HOUSE!!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (205.188.209.38) on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 02:10 pm:

HEY DOUG...SORRY FOR STEPPING ON YOUR FAYGO BIT!!!...STU

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (205.188.209.38) on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 02:12 pm:

BUT WE ALL DO REMEMBER THAT GENE MEROLLIS WAS A "GREAT...GREAT...GUY"!!!...

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jay (167.167.44.218) on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 02:20 pm:

The reason I found this site is that I was looking for the old Roy O'Brien car jingle.
Sung by the Gaylords.
Which I understand they still use!!

Right On Stu..what a kick ! !

Most people don't know about the Vernors that was "Aged in Wood".

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (205.188.209.38) on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 02:23 pm:

FOR 4 WHOLE YEARS JAY!!!...STU

Top of pageBottom of page   By StingBeeLee (68.43.129.202) on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 02:23 pm:

Hey Stubass;
When I knew Leo he had gray hair and kept the territory until he had a couple of heart attacks in the 70's. I told Mr. Bauerle you said hello (last year) and he remembered you and your brother Bruce. He turned eighty this year! He is living the life near Augusta Georgia. Yes, Miss Robinson is still "Miss". I had heard your story from other members of the alumni about Mr. Canney and the heart attack. She just sent me a birthday card, as her birthday is one week before mine.

Top of pageBottom of page   By douglasm (68.113.15.28) on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 02:30 pm:

Stu....
No problem. The Cubbies are leading the Mets, so it's a good day. And speaking of baseball....
.....you (and the whole city) were mesmorized by the '68 Tigers.

The City National Bank Dow Jones sign on their downtown office was converted into a Tiger scoreboard.

Afternoon baseball.
"Action Line" in the Free Press.
Watson Spolstra in the News.
A young Al Ackerman on WWJ-TV.
Van Patrick's toupe.
The Polish Daily News
When Bill Muncy WAS a Detroiter, the traitor.
Soft 'N' Good Bread signs on fence posts in the country with metal Such Crusts on top.

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (205.188.209.38) on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 02:35 pm:

SUCH CRUST...OWNED BY THE SUCHER FAMILY...A PROMINENT DETROIT FAMILY...AND HYGRADE BALLPARK FRANKS...NOW GONE NATIONAL...OWNED BY THE SLOTKIN FAMILY...MICKEY SLOTKIN WAS A FRIEND OF MY SISTERS!!!...STU

Top of pageBottom of page   By douglasm (68.113.15.28) on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 02:38 pm:

Stu...
....I thought it was Jack Schafer's bakery. His son still raced boats until about 15 years ago.
Mickey Schorr's TAPE SHACK.
Crazy Jack's Michigan Mobile Radio (MMR)

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jay (167.167.44.218) on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 02:44 pm:

Sunday
Sunday
Sunday
Sunday at Detroit Dragway

Also KLH on Woodward near Vernors..
They actually had Altec sound equipment...which I thought at the time was really the best.

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (64.12.97.7) on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 03:30 pm:

JAY...WAS THAT NOT THE "MOTOR CITY DRAGWAY"???...ALSO DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THE OLD DETROIT "SPEEDWAY" OUT ON 8 MILE SOMEWHERE...A SMALL OVAL WHERE THEY USED TO RACE STOCK CARS...I WENT THERE ONCE AND SAW A GUY CRASH HEAD-ON INTO THE WALL...CANT REMEMBER HIS FATE!!!...DOUG...TASTEE BAKERY...SUCH CRUST...SUTCHER FAMILY!!!...SHAFFERS WAS A DIFFERENT BAKERY!!!...STU

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jim Feliciano in Detroit. (152.163.188.68) on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 03:37 pm:

Yes Stu,
That was the "Detroit Dragway at Sibley & Dix"....

Top of pageBottom of page   By Still16 (198.109.0.231) on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 04:02 pm:

Dirty Helen's Saloon featuring Jim Freeman
Dick Westercamp and the news on WWJ channel 4
Bill Bonds doing radio news for WKMH/WKNR
Ron Coden at the Raven Gallery
Leaping Larry Chene
Ricky the Clown
Double Cola
Penny Candy...really for a penny!
The Wanderin'Igloo with Fred Wolf
Morgus the weatherman
Sir Graves Ghastley
Carol Duval Show
Lady of Charm
Rita Bell's Prize Movie...Dialin' for Dollars
Lou Gordon

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jay (167.167.44.218) on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 04:10 pm:

Before there was StarSearch...
in Detroit there was Starlit Stairway.
Musical Director was Jimmy (Uncle Jimmy) Stephenson

I met Leaping Larry Chene at WXYZ Southfield when I was a kid.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Beebopman (67.38.92.14) on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 07:54 pm:

I remember going to the State Fair Pavilion to ice skate during the winter. The school tours of an old cabin built in the 1800's on Palmer Park! No kidding, it was nestled on a small hill over looking a pond. I couldn't believe it. Summers at Edge-Water park. The bus route ended right at the park (actually a few blocks short of the park). We'd stay there all day. Does anyone remember the Sunday teen dances at Tuetonia Hall over in Windsor? We would go there for dancing and checking out the girls; then cruise back to the states and end up at Ted's or the Totem Pole. Oh, and illegal street racing on Woodward and sometimes on a street called Intervale in Detroit.
And, for the best Pizza in town, you had to go to Shields on the east side or Donars on Hamilton in Highland Park.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jay (167.167.44.218) on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 11:07 pm:

Its a Royal Oak thing but the Chicken Shack is THE best broasted chicken.

Now I see that years later they have many franchises in and around the metro Detroit area.

A couple of years ago I took my kids back there and they agreed big-time!

Top of pageBottom of page   By Bigjime (198.81.27.6) on Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 01:02 am:

Regarding ice cream vendors, does anybody remember "The Big Mouse"? He ruled my neighborhood in Ann Arbor, and I think he also did some business in Detroit - we saw him selling at the State Fair once. He always stopped in front of my house because he knew he had a guaranteed sale! I think his first name was Jerry.
Some other memories - Remember the Ford Rotunda all lit up at night? How about Little Caesar's selling fried chicken that was better than KFC! I wish they would bring it back. How about Awrey Baked Goods? And the CKLW hitline numbers were 252-5555 in Windsor, 964-9833 in Detroit.

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 02:34 am:

THATS A BUNCH MORE REALLY GOOD ONES!!!.....THANKS STILL16!!!...BEEBOPMAN: I USED TO SKATE AT THE STATE FAIR TOO...BUT BETTER YET WAS SKATING ON THE POND AT PALMER PARK...DUCKS STILL FLOATING AROUND IN THE UNFROZEN SECTION WHILE WE SKATED ALL AROUND...BUT THEY WOULDN'T LET US PLAY HOCKEY THERE!!!...WRESTLING FANS...DICK THE BRUSER...I SAW HIM A COUPLE OF TIMES AT BIFFS DOWNTOWN AT NIGHT...AND HE LOOKED MORE LIKE DICK THE "BOOZER"!!!...STU

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jay (167.167.44.218) on Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 02:55 am:

The Battle of the Bands at the State Fair.

We got snuffed by a band that played "Rockin Robin"!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By douglasm (68.113.15.28) on Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 10:23 am:

Bobo Brazil
Leapin' Larry Shane. My grandmother went into mourning when he was killed in a car crash in, I think, Kansas.
Stu...
...Motor City Speedway was a quarter mile oval on E. 8 Mile. Dad and I would go out once a year to watch jalopy racing.
Still 16....
....When I moved last year, I found a Phil Marcus Esser (sp?)/Paul Bowles single in my collection.
A neon sign in one of the taxi dancing "ballrooms" on Woodward below the Greystone...
"...Men, If You've Got The Lettuce, We've Got The Tomatos".

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (64.12.97.7) on Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 10:35 am:

I GUESS I GOT MY SPEEDWAYS MIXED UP...BUT THATS THE ONE I REMEMBER DOUG!!!...GOING OUT 8 MILE...WEST SIDE...THERE WAS A "KIDDYLAND" AMUSEMENT PARK NEXT TO THE DRIVE IN MOVIE NEAR SCHAFFER (COOLIDGE)!!!...AND THE "INFAMOUS..."CHRYSTAL POOL" ON 8-MILE AND GREENFIELD!!!...DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THAT THE POOL...BECAME THE FLASHPOINT FOR MUCH OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMEMT IN DETROIT...BECAUSE THE OWNER REFUSED TO LET AFRICAN-AMERICANS SWIM THERE...AND A MARCH AND PICKETTING BEGAN THERE...PROBABLY 1961 OR SO!!!...EVENTUALLY...THE OWNER SAW THE WRITING ON THE WALL...AND REFUSING TO BEND ON HIS RACIST POLICY...CLOSED THE POOL!!!...THAT INCIDENT OPENED MANY PEOPLES EYES UP AS TO WHAT THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT WAS ABOUT...AND WHAT CONCERNS THAT "NEGRO'S" HAD AT THE TIME...WHICH MANY WHITES DID NOT UNDERSTAND WERE ISSUES!!!...STU

Top of pageBottom of page   By Dick Gamble (216.93.11.82) on Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 12:21 pm:

The Motor City Dragway was located on 26 mile Rd. near Marine city

The Detroit Speedway on E 8 mile. was at one time televised with Fred Wolf doing the action calling and as I remember and top driver by the name of Joey Fair was the person to beat....

Anyone remember Art Arfons' Green Monster running at Detroit Dragway?

On the Woodward strip from Ted's Drive-in to the Totem Pole was a guy who went by the name of "Pontiac Jack". A teen in the late 50's,he would challenge anyone to drag race car title for car title against him. That person was Jack Ostrander of top fuel NHRA and IHRA fame....


Anyone remember the Birmingham Police Depts. 41 chopped and channeled candy apple red Ford that they used on Woodward to trap drag racers?

Top of pageBottom of page   By douglasm (68.113.15.28) on Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 01:24 pm:

Dick....
...You mean "ART ARFONS' FIRE BREATHING NITRO BURNING 200 MILE PER HOUR JET POWERED GREEN MONSTER"? Sounds better with the open to "What I Say" playing in the backround.
Forgot about Fred Wolf. WXYZ (i think) used to televise the races once a week.
Someone mentioned Vernors--I remember the yellow soda fountain dispensers, and the Hires barrel--We get it out here. Bottled in Everett, WA. No, Everett doesn't have a Woodard Avenue.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Uptight! (24.55.6.144) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 09:53 am:

What was the name of that soda Sonny Elliot used to plug on TV? I think it had the word "crown" in it. It seemed like this pop had a certain bite to it, as if pepper was an ingredient. LOL.

It was interesting because a case would contain all the different flavors and colors in one case. If I remember correctly it would be sold in a wooden, one-level case. The price was really cheap--probably perfect for family picnics.

Top of pageBottom of page   By hiram (159.53.238.243) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 10:36 am:

Uptight,

You are referring to Town Club soda. They had multiple outlets around the area and the price was very cheap.

Top of pageBottom of page   By hiram (159.53.238.243) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 10:46 am:

The rap group INSANE CLOWN POSSE aka(ICP)is from the downriver area and promotes Faygo during their concerts. I hear they skae up 2 liter bottles and spray the audience with it and the crowd goes nuts. I have nephews in L.A. who constantly hound me to send them a case or to of Faygo. Rock & Rye seems to be the hot item. They tell me their friends would pay big bucks for a bottle. Infact, my nephew sold a 2 liter empty Faygo bottle to his friend for $10.00. I guess we we were more fortunate than we knew growing up with Faygo. Which Way Did He Go?...Which Way Did He Go?......He Went For Faygo....!

Top of pageBottom of page   By hiram (159.53.238.243) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 10:48 am:

You Know Your An OLD DETROITER If: You Still Think the Tigers or Lions might actually make the playoffs let alone take the championship...!

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jim G (12.47.224.12) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 10:50 am:

I think the full lyric was,

Stay on the right track
to nine mile and mack
Roy O'Brian cars and trucks
gets you money back!

Roy O'Brian's got some buyers
that come from many miles away
You'll save yourself a lot of dollars
by driving out his way today!

I assume someone mentioned Demery's?

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 12:25 pm:

JIM AND ALL...YOU'RE ALL CLOSE...BUT HERES THE REAL LYRICS!!!

GET ON THE RIGHT TRACK...TO NINE MILE AND MACK...ROY O'BRIAN TRUCKS AND CARS...MAKE YOUR MONEY BACK!!!

ROY O'BRIAN'S GOT THEM BUYIN...BUYIN...THEY COME FROM MANY MILES AWAY....

YOU'LL SAVE YOURSELF A LOT OF DOLLARS...DOLLARS...BY RIDING OUT OUR WAY TODAY!!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By 65memories (198.109.0.231) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 01:03 pm:

DOUGLASM, STUBASS, JAY, DICK GAMBLE AND EVERYONE ELSE!....
You can go on the Keener 13 website and hear the actual commercials for Detroit Dragway, Motor City Dragway, Edgewater, Gene Merollis, Speedway 79 and others. Go to
www.keener13.com/spots
It's great to listen to these.
'65 memories
Gary Torgerson

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 01:59 pm:

THANKS 65!!!...EOL (END OF LIST)

YOU REMEMBER A WINKLEMAN'S AND SANDERS STORE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD!!!

YOU REMEMBER OLYMPIA STADIUM!!!

YOUR MOM SHOPPED FOR GROCERIES AT GREAT SCOTT...FOOD FAIR...WRIGLEY'S...OR CHATHAM!!!

YOU VISITED THE WONDER BREAD BAKERY AND GOT TO TAKE HOME A "MINI-LOAF" OF BREAD!!!

YOU REMEMBER THE "PURE" AND "GULF" GAS STATIONS!!!

YOUR HOUSE HAD A LAUNDRY CHUTE...A MILK CHUTE...AND A COAL CHUTE!!!...

AND *THATS* THE WAY IT WAS...STUBASS

Top of pageBottom of page   By hiram (159.53.32.41) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 02:31 pm:

Stubass,

Interesting name? There was a Saunders shop by my mother in laws house in Farmington Hills. I went there about 3 years ago and pigged out on a Hot Fudge Creme Puff. I was wasted for hours.

How do you pronounce Stubass. I'm afraid to ask.

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (205.188.209.38) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 02:37 pm:

HIRAM: YEAH...THOSE HOT FUDGE PUFFS!!!...I REMEMBER MY BROTHER JAUNTING UP TO SANDERS FOR A TUNA SANDWITCH AND A CHOCOLATE SODA ALL THE TIME!!!...AS FOR MY MONIKER...IT DEPENDS WHO YOU ASK!!!...I WAS A BASS PLAYER BACK IN THE DAY...AND FELLOW BASSIST TONY BLANCHARD CHRISTENED ME STU-BASS FOR MY FIRST POST ON THIS FORUM...BUT SOME HAVE SPECULATED THAT IT SHOULD REALLY BE STUB-ASS...OR AS RALPH SO PROPHETICALLY PUT IT...BRUCE'S LITTLE BROTHER...STUB-ASS...EITHER WAY...IT'S OK...JUST DON'T CALL ME LATE FOR DINNER!!!...STU

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 03:04 pm:

Yeah Stu,
Either way we love ya pal.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jay (167.167.44.218) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 04:07 pm:

Gary
Thanks for the link.
It really a hoot

The Gene Merolis Chevrolet commercial....man...
"Can't expect to go through life without a car!!"

Hey Stu maybe you could use that line?

Top of pageBottom of page   By Dick Gamble (216.93.58.216) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 04:18 pm:

Your a real old,old Detroiter if you remember the announcement of the bombing of Pearl Harbor. I remember being at my grandparents house on junction when it came on the radio, I was a little over 3 years old at the time.

Then came blackouts in the city and air raid wardens to make sure the lights were off. Sand buckets in the attic.

Ration stamps for food and gasoline and war bonds.

Then after WWII came the cold war,nike missile sites,the sky warning system, Civil defense,conalrad (sp) alerting systems ,bomb shelters.

Geez sounds like it's starting all over again.

Top of pageBottom of page   By douglasm (68.113.13.31) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 06:13 pm:

"Stubass, what a great, great guy"
Nah....that doesn't scan right.

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (205.188.209.38) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 08:57 pm:

HEY: I'D RATHER BE...STUBASS..."I *AM* THE KING"!!!...AND AS FOR YOUR SUGGESTION JAY,,,I'D RATHER SAY..."I'LL EAT A BUG TO SELL YOU A CAR"!!!...STUB-ASS...I MEAN...STUBASS

Top of pageBottom of page   By douglasm (68.113.13.31) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 09:10 pm:

It's Cal Stubass And His Dog Spot.....
I was trying to work Stu into Hodges for Dodges, but (alas) failed.

You know you're and old Detroiter if....
You remember driving around the storage lots to see the new cars before dealer introduction day.

You remember Chrysler's turbine cars--drove one of those--once.

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (205.188.209.38) on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 09:16 pm:

DOUG: YOU HIT THAT RIGHT ON THE N0SE...WE USED TO GO UP TO THE LOTS ON WOODWARD IN FERNDALE AND CHECK OUT NEW MODELS...AND PACKER PONTIAC ON LIVERNOIS!!!...THE TURBINE...THOSE ORANGE CHRYSLERS YOU'D SEE DRIVING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON OCCASION (OUR PEEK INTO THE FUTURE)!!!...BY THE WAY...KEEP WORKING ON THE JINGLES DOUG...I'M SURE YOU'LL COME UP WITH A GOOD ONE!!!...STU

Top of pageBottom of page   By radiogoon (206.148.224.54) on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 01:29 am:

Velvet Peanut Butter! (Good,Fresh,Pure?)
Arlans Dept. Store
Beat The Champ (WWJ-TV?)
My favorite on WJBK-TV "It's 8 O'Clock, do you know where your children are?"
Silverstines (MY favorite surplus store)

Two questions: Dick Gamble, are u still a ham? DE KF8XO SK

Does ANYONE have any photos of any of the Nike Missile Installations in the Detroit area? And does anyone remeber the Anti-Aircraft Battery on the riverfront in Grosse Point?

E-Mail me any info u may have radiogoon@yahoo.com

Thanks!

Dr. Z

Top of pageBottom of page   By radiogoon (206.148.224.54) on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 01:31 am:

Velvet Peanut Butter! (Good,Fresh,Pure?)
Arlans Dept. Store
Beat The Champ (WWJ-TV?)
My favorite on WJBK-TV "It's 8 O'Clock, do you know where your children are?"
Silverstines (MY favorite surplus store)

Two questions: Dick Gamble, are u still a ham? DE KF8XO SK

Does ANYONE have any photos of any of the Nike Missile Installations in the Detroit area? And does anyone remeber the Anti-Aircraft Battery on the riverfront in Grosse Point?

E-Mail me any info u may have radiogoon@yahoo.com

Thanks!

Dr. Z

Top of pageBottom of page   By radiogoon (206.148.224.54) on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 01:36 am:

Sorry about the double post guys, slow, crummy, connection.

Top of pageBottom of page   By douglasm (68.113.13.31) on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 04:15 pm:

Radiogoon....
.....except at 11pm on Saturdays, WJBK introed the news with "It's Eleven O'clock. Do you know where your parents are?"
Led to a string of bad jokes, like "do you know...
who
why
what
...your children are?"
Stu...
...dad brought one of the pre-itilian turbine cars home (a '64 Dodge body, I think) and let me drive it around the block. He was having a devil of a time coming up with an effective heater for the thing--air cooled.

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit. (68.42.209.170) on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 04:00 pm:

Stubass - As you've noticed, I've stayed away from this thread. :o) But I remember everything in your first thread, except perhaps about three things. This is a great thread!! I'll just sit back, read, enjoy, and sing Roy O'Brien along with you all.

Wasn't Wonder Bread on Grand River and John C. Lodge Fwy? If so, it is now the MotorCity Casino. (Bill Pinkney and the so called Marvelettes will be appearing there this month.)

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 04:05 pm:

Sis,
I went to Cass Tech in the 9th grade and the bus I rode went right by the Wonder Bread facility. What a delightful aroma at 7:30 A.M.

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 04:09 pm:

Ralph - Yes, it was a nice aroma. Fresh! What was the name of the other school across the street from Cass, which they tore down to build the freeway? My brain cells works only sometimes. They are doing better than I thought they would when posting on this Forum.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 04:13 pm:

Oh yeah Sis. I forgot about that school. Some sort of a business school that, from what I remember, mostly girls attended. I can't remember the name though.

Top of pageBottom of page   By David Meikle (62.252.128.6) on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 04:20 pm:

Billy Kennedy, who recorded the fantastic "Groovy generation" for Clay McMurray, Don Mancha and Thelma records worked at the Wonder Bakery.

Top of pageBottom of page   By medusa9e (66.73.10.33) on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 07:08 pm:

The Palms Theater and i really loved the "RED BARN" fish sandwiches, i think it was located on Woodward in Highland Park...and Federals Dept. stores.

Top of pageBottom of page   By counterpoint (68.63.4.162) on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 07:56 pm:

Has someone mentioned the big billboard downtown that advertised cigarettes and blew out perfect circles every time? I used to stand there and just watch it, waiting for it to fail.

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 09:34 pm:

Ralph - The name of the sister school to Cass was Commerce. My sister attended that school. Isn't that the school Diana Ross attended?

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 11:07 pm:

COMMERCE!!! WOW... Thanks Sis...

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 01:17 am:

WELL SIS: THIS THREAD IS ABOUT "OLD" DETROITER'S...SO YOU'RE DISQUALIFIED ANYWAYS...BECAUSE YOU'RE NO "OLD" DETROITER...AT LEAST YOU DON'T LOOK LIKE ONE!!!...STU(ANGEL DADDY)BASS

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 10:12 am:

Watch it girls. Stu is getting all silver tongued again.

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 11:25 am:

RALPH: YOU'RE BLOWIN MY COVER!!!...STU

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 11:34 am:

Yeah right Stu.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 11:36 am:

ANGEL DADDY???? LOL and LOL

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 01:05 pm:

Angel Daddy - No, I'm not an Old Detroiter, I am an Ancient Detroiter, I remember how active the Paradise Valley area was when I was 5 years old. I remember it because I had just left a small town in North Carolina. Quite a contrast. I also remember riding in the streetcars. :o)

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 01:24 pm:

Sis,
I remember riding the street cars.

Top of pageBottom of page   By StingBeeLee (68.43.129.202) on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 03:58 pm:

Stubass; Our Sanders was on 7 mile and Santa Rosa. If no one has tasted their hot fudge sundaes, you have missed a treat. Remember the Skippers Table on 7 mile and Stoepel? How about Super-Sol market? Phone Don's for Drugs (the sign is still standing). Cunninghams on one corner, Kresge's on the other corner of Livernois and 7 mile. Olympic Sporting Goods, Monroe Music Shop!! Sherwood Forest Library (still there). Chippewa (now Johnson) Recreation Center on Cherrylawn and Chippewa. The Jewish Community Center on Meyers and Curtis (now the Northwest Activities Center).

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 10:22 pm:

STINGBEE: YES...YES...YES...YES...AND YES!!!...DON'S DRUGS WAS THREE BLOCKS FROM MY HOUSE...AND MY BROTHER USED TO GO TO SANDERS FOR THOSE SANDWITCHES AND CHOCOLATE SODA'S!!!...SIBLEYS SHOES NEXT TO KRESGE'S???...REAL OLDTIMERS WILL REMEMBER BILLY'S DELI ON LIVERNOIS...AND S&C RESTAURANT ON LIVERNOIS AND ST. MARTINS!!!...SIS: OK...THEN IF YOU'RE ANCIENT...THAT MAKES YOU AN ANTIQUITY...THUS...OF UNLIMITED VALUE FOR ALL TIME!!!...PLUS...I ALWAYS LIKED THOSE "OLD" DILL PICKLES BETTER THAN THE "NEW" ONES ANYWAY"!!!...QUIET NOW RALPH!!!...STU

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jim Feliciano in Detroit. (205.188.209.38) on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 10:40 pm:

Ok, Stu...
Since you've 'regressed' yourself (and most of us) into 'the' Detroit past, name how many of the players were on the team, all the coaches, name the trainer, name the manager, name the General Manager, and who was the owner of the 1968 Detroit Tigers Championship baseball team, can you name all of these off???

The clock, is now startng to tick....

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 11:34 pm:

DAMN JIM: I JUST DECIDED TO CHECK THE FORUM AS I WAS GETTING MY DINNER OUT OF THE KITCHEN...HOLD ON....OK...FOOD ON SIMMER!!!...OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD...NO HELP WHATSOEVER...
OWNER-JOHN FETZER
G.M. JIM CAMPBELL (MY FUTURE NEIGHBOR AT 1300 LAFAYETTE)
MANAGER-RALPH HOUK
MAIN PITCHERS- MCCLAIN.. LOLICH...WILSON...REGAN
INFIELDERS-CASH...MCAULLIFFE...WERT...STANLEY(FROM OUTFIELD FOR THE WORLD SERIES)...TRASZUSKI?...
OUTFIELDERS-KALINE...NORTHRUP...HORTON...STANLEY
P.H. GATES BROWN
THATS IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD BEFORE IT EXPLODES...GETTING HUNGRY...GOTTA WORK EARLY TOMORROW...HOPE I PASSED...AND I KNOW I MISSED A FEW...BUT I'M CHILLIN AND GRILLIN AT HOME!!!...STU

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 11:41 pm:

ANNOUNCERS- GEORGE KELL AND ERNIE HARWELL!!!...STU(BACKTOTHESKYY&OJ)BASS

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 11:47 pm:

My favorite announcers Stu. Old school like Vin Scully. Hey I can't argue about the old dill pickles other than the fact that I'm in deli hell here in Monterey.

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 11:53 pm:

CATCHER-BILL FREEHAN OUT OF THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN (MADE SERIES CHANGING TAG IN GAME FIVE WHEN LOU BROCK CAME HOME FROM SECOND ON A SINGLE AND WAS THROWN OUT AT THE PLATE...HORTON TO FREEHAN) DAMMIT!!!...RALPH:...I'M ON A ROLL HERE...BUT THE YOUNG GREEN ONES JUST DON'T GET IT!!!...WHERE'S ALL MY ANGELS???...STU(TIMETOEAT)BASS

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (64.12.97.7) on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 09:49 am:

OR WAS THE MANAGER MAYO SMITH???...I HAD A DREAM ABOUT BOLOGNA AND MAYO'S NAME POPPED INTO MY HEAD!!!...STU

Top of pageBottom of page   By dave (207.241.133.153) on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 10:51 am:

Why you guys talkin' baseball when we got an icestorm and the Stanley Cup Playoffs are starting? I remember when the Wings had terry Sawchuck and Glenn Hall, the best two goalies in the league. During the regular season, traveling teams only brought one goalie and nobody wore masks. It was a frequent occurance for the goalie to go out of the game for stitches and the visiting team would borrow whoever the Wings had on the bench. Then we would get to see the two best against each other and one of them trying to stone his own team out of pride....At least I think I remember all all this. Please someone tell me I haven't fabricated a false memory out of a special incident.

Top of pageBottom of page   By hiram (159.53.32.41) on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 11:06 am:

Since we're talking hockey, A few years ago, while I was cutting the grass I would wave hello to my neighbor while he was doing his yard work. I never spoke with him, I just waved hello every week. Just about every day he would be playing hockey with some of the neighborhood kids in the middle of the street blocking traffic with the goals right in the street. I found this to be quite the inconvenience and started bitching at him only to find out his name was Ozzie and he wore a Red Wings jersey. Boy, did I feel like quite the putz.

Top of pageBottom of page   By LTLFTC (12.210.76.205) on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 11:41 am:

When talking '68 Tigers, don't forget my man Shortstop Ray Oyler.

Steve K

Top of pageBottom of page   By douglasm (68.113.13.31) on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 11:53 am:

For what it's worth....
....Oyler became something of a local hero out here in the pacific northwest. An original Seattle Pilot, Oyler lasted a year, and didn't make it to Milwaukee, being traded to Oakland. When his career ended in '73, he went to work for Boeing, passing on in 1981. Couldn't hit worth a damn, allowing KVI's Bob Hardwick to create a promotional bit in an attempt to get his batting average over the Mendoza line. Didn't work.

Top of pageBottom of page   By LTLFTC (12.210.76.205) on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 12:51 pm:

In fact , i believe Oyler's batting average was lower than his weight one season.

SteveK

Top of pageBottom of page   By matt (208.130.56.167) on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 12:57 pm:

biff's
ted's on the park, always packed at 2 a.m.
bowling for dollars with bob allison
the ghoul
rocky's pizzeria on west 7 mile; rocky pulling out the accordion
the guy hawking the sunday free press on the southwest corner of 7 and livernois on saturday nights
byron macgregor
cider and doughnuts way out in the country at the franklin cider mill
griswold sporting goods
the pervasive popcorn smell at the sears on woodward in highland park; buying my first 45 at said sears in 1971
red barn
vincenzo's on john r for pizza
paradiso on woodward between 6 and 7
dutch girl donuts (still there) for hot 10 p.m. crullers
phoenicia when it first opened across from the y in highland park circa 1970 (now a fancy place in birmingham)
shield's
the turtle soup inn
lou's finer delicatessen (still there?)
the broadway market downtown
the zoo on east 8 mile ("detroit's home of topless mud entertainment")
the taxi-dancing place on woodward near the medical center, still operating as late as the early eighties

blah blah blah

m

Top of pageBottom of page   By douglasm (68.113.13.31) on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 01:11 pm:

Is the Paradiso Cafe still there?

Buddy's for pizza
"Strike" papers--something I've never seen except in Detroit, where 8 or 10 page "newspapers" were printed during paper strikes.
Downtown Howard Johsons Motor Inn.
Charlie Maxwell

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jay (167.167.44.218) on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 02:11 pm:

My Favorite Tiger Outfielders:

Cash, Colavito, Kaline

Top of pageBottom of page   By LG Nilsson (213.89.29.157) on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 02:40 pm:

Hi Guyz & Girlz from Detroit!

I have to confess... I have never been to your exciting town. But I may have the largest collection of Detroit music in Sweden! And as you talk about the Detroit Tigers and Willie Horton I have to post this scan to this thread.

Willie Horton talks about summer activities to children. The Supremes back him up with different lyrics to "The Happening". The B-side consists of two shorter versions.

WH.jpg

I have been to Chicago a couple of times... but 2648 West Grand Boulevard is still a place I have to see before I believe it exists in reality.

Lars

Top of pageBottom of page   By douglasm (68.113.13.31) on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 02:50 pm:

Anybody admit to having a copy of Denny McClain at the Hammond organ?

Top of pageBottom of page   By Horse (159.53.238.243) on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 03:19 pm:

Last thing I heard was he was doing a wonderful rendition of Jail House Rock.

Top of pageBottom of page   By LTLFTC (12.210.76.205) on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 04:55 pm:

Yup - I admit to having the Denny Mcclain lp. It's filed between the MC5 and the Metros in my collection. I think we had a thread about the Denny album..
SteveK

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 07:51 pm:

Jay..Cash, Kaline and Colavito were in that order in the batting line-up. I always loved it when those three wre coming up. You knew SOMETHING was going to happen.

Doug....Since Denny's album was recorded at Tera Shirma I had to endure the entire dreary process and my last wish would be to never hear that thing again.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jim Feliciano in Detroit. (152.163.188.68) on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 09:03 pm:

StuBass,
Look, check it out... in 1968, in the radio broadcast booth it was Ernie Harwell and Ray Lane, on WJR 760 ('from the "golden towers" of the Fisher Building').

In the TV 2 (WJBK) broadcast booth, the 1968 play-by-play announcers were... George Kell & Larry Osterman-- now, can you remember these two? :o)

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 10:35 pm:

WHEW: OK DAVE: I WAS AT A STANLEY CUP PLAYOFF GAME AS A KID...WINGS VS. BLACKHAWKS...SITTING 2ND ROW NEAR THE BENCH!!!...HALL TAKES A PUCK IN THE MOUTH...SKATES PAST US...LIP HANGING OFF...INTO THE DRESSING ROOM...GAME DELAYED 15 MINUTES...GETS STITCHED AND COMES BACK OUT...WALKS RIGHT PAST ME...COULD TELL THAT HE WAS FEELING "SICK"!!!...GOT SHELLED THE REST OF THE GAME...WINGS WIN...BUT CAN'T REMEMBER WHO WON THAT SERIES!!!...BASEBALLERS: GOOD THREE PICKS...BUT REMEMBER BILLY BRUTIN ...FINE PLAYER...CHARLIE MAXWELL (PAW PAW)...USED TO HIT ALL THOSE HOMERS ON SUNDAY!!!...LG: I REMEMBER THAT RECORD DEAL...KIND OF HOKEY...BUT NO WORSE THAN MICKEY MANTLE"S "MICKEY" SONG!!!...JIM: GOOD CALL...RAY LANE...CHANNEL 2 SPORTSCASTER...AND LARRY OSTERMAN DID TIGER BROADCASTS...BUT DID'T THE USED TO SWITCH OFF SOMETIMES...RADIO TO TV???...WHEN DID ERNIE AND KELL FINALLY GET TOGETHER ON A REGULAR BASIS THEN???...YOU "OWE" ME THE ANSWER BASED ON MY OWN QUICK RESPONSE TIME!!!...STU

Top of pageBottom of page   By David Meikle (213.122.151.38) on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 03:52 am:

Great scan Lars.

Top of pageBottom of page   By im Feliciano in Detroit. (152.163.188.68) on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 04:38 am:

StuBass,
Yes... you are right, they were the play-by-play announcers in the radio booth, but it was during some years prior, to the 1968 Championship Banner year.

We're talkin' about the years (Harwell and Kell) from 1962 thru 1966. Prior to that Harwell, did all the entire game by himself!

But in 1967, Ray Lane told Kell, "look, move over Rover, I'm takin' over", whereas, Kell had no choice but to walk over to the TV broadcasting booth (with Osterman, then in 1967) grab a 'mike', and Kell been seen doing color commentary for 'Detroit Tiger baseball' from then on, which was for many, many years, thereafter....

Now how's that for some "Tiger" trivia?

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jim Feliciano in Detroit. (152.163.188.68) on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 04:42 am:

Er, that's Jim... not im. I believe my keyboard has startin' to 'stick'!

Top of pageBottom of page   By Clay (66.73.176.181) on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 06:26 am:

Don't forget the good guys on Radio like Tommy Shannon,Scotty Regan,Bill Williams,Jay Butler,Bristol Bryant, Butterball Jr. Robbie Dee,Ernie Durham,Martha
Jean,Ray Henderson, Rosie Lee Trombley, Mickey Shorr,
Larry Dean,Wash Allen,Sporty Jay,Robin Seymour and others I see but can't name.

Also, The 20 Grand,Phelps Lounge,The Chit Chat,Ben's High Chapparal,The Disc Jockey, The Red Rooster, The Webbwood,The UBQ,The Detroit Oldtimers, The Arcadia
The Paradise, The Cream Of Michigan, Brady's Pool Hall,Hymie Margolis Drug Store,Hughes BarBque, Cancellation shoe store, Kosins, The Broadway Market, Simmon's and Clark Jewelers, The Rage Show Bar,The Peoples Bar, The Hobby Show Bar, The Co-Ques, The Shakers,The Big Four, and Rotation Slim, Barthwells ice cream, and the Castle Theater on Hastings Street, The Streetcars and the DSR. What a flash back.

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (205.188.209.38) on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 10:27 am:

IM FELICIANO???...FREUDIAN SLIP???...POSSIBLY THE GUY WHO SANG THE NATIONAL ANTHEM BEFORE GAME FIVE...CAUSING ALL THE FURROR???...AM I ONTO SOMETHING HERE???...STU

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 12:15 pm:

Clay - After we would leave the clubs, whether eastside or westside, we would go to either Hughes BarBQ or Dot & Etta's Shrimp hut.

Also, Clay, did you know a guy named Rudy, who owned a jewelry store in the Michigan Building on Bagley in the 70's? He sold jewely to quite a few entertainers.

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (64.12.97.7) on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 01:18 pm:

DOT & ETTA'S...NOW YOU'RE TALKING SIS!!!...THAT WHITE BAG FULL OF THOSE MED-LARGE SHRIMP WITH THE RED HOT SAUCE THAT LEAKED THROUGH THE BAG!!!...WHEN I BRIEFLY WORKED FOR MY DAD'S SEAFOOD COMPANY...FORGET THE SUPERMARKET CHAINS...I HAD TO CAPTURE DOT & ETTA'S BUSINESS...AND I DID...FEATHER IN MY CAP...CAUSE WHEN I WOULD VISIT THE LIVERNOIS LOCATION...I ALWAYS LEFT WITH ONE OF THOSE GREASY BAGS!!!...AND MY FRIENDS FROM THE STANFIELD FAMILY...TED...UNCLE BOB AND ALL...YOUNGS BAR B Q!!!...TED RAN THE LIVERNOIS STORE...AND I WOULD VISIT HIM THERE...JUST SO HE'D GO TO THE PIT AND GRAB ME A FEW OF THOSE RIBS DROWNED IN THEIR SECRET SAUCE!!!...CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT I BROUGHT HIM TO RETURN THE FAVOR!!!...STU

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 01:22 pm:

yummy, those red hot sauce bags, spelling so good. Young's BBQ was extemely popular. Best in the world. Currently there is a Young's BBQ on Livernois near Grand River, but it's just not the same sauce.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jim Feliciano in Detroit. (152.163.188.68) on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 10:35 pm:

StuBass,
And yes, Kell and Harwell... would do both television and radio, switch to TV, while simulcasting the games on the radio, as well.

This simulcast was within the early years, prior(1960 thru 1963),when Harwell started the 'play-by-play' accounts (with Kell) on both ends of the broadcast medium... Harwell and Kell, for the Detroit Tigers.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Russegal (209.86.242.35) on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 10:58 pm:

Hey Y'all...

You'll laugh at this...but being 20+ years gone from Detroit...currently in the bay area of Northern California...probably the restaurant capital of the world....I MISS "ELIAS BROS..HOME OF THE BIG BOY"!!!! I cut my teeth on those burgers!!! Nothing like it here....Oh sure...we've got the fancy ass places...but you just hand over that fresh strawberry pie!!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 11:11 pm:

Oh yeah, Russegal - Juicy Big Boys. They are still here, except they are not as big.

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 11:13 pm:

HEY RUSSEGAL...HMMMMMM...RUSSEGAL...DOWN HERE IN L.A. WE DO HAVE ONE BOB'S BIG BOY LEFT OVER IN TOLUCA LAKE...NEAR BURBANK!!!...THEY HAVE ALL THE SAME OLD STUFF LIKE THE OLD ELIAS BROTHERS!!!...COME TO THINK OF IT...THERE'S ONE ON WILSHIRE BLVD NEAR THE MIRACLE MILE TOO!!!...HEY...THATS NEAR THE WILTERN THEATRE WHERE THE FUNKS ARE APPEARING ON THE 23RD!!!...MAYBE I COUL
D GET BROTHER BRUCE TO POP FOR AN ORIGINAL BIG BOY...SALAD WITH BLEU CHEESE...FRIES...AND A HOT FUDGE ICE CREAM CAKE FOR DESSERT...HOW ABOUT IT BRUCE???...LITTLE STUB-ASS

Top of pageBottom of page   By Russegal (209.86.242.35) on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 11:42 pm:

OH M'GOD!!!!!


I'm there!!!!...."MEETCHA AT THE BIG BOY!!!!"

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 11:52 pm:

OK RUSSEGAL...MEETCHA AT THE LITTLE CHUBBY GUY IN THE RED AND WHITE CHECKERBOARD OVERALLS...HOLDING THE BURGER OVER HIS HEAD!!!...BY THE WAY...THERE IS AN ANTIQUE PLACE IN ACTON, CA. THAT HAD AN OLD BIG BOY STATUE FOR SALE ON THEIR LOT...IT WOULD PROBABLY LOOK GOOD ON YOUR FRONT LAWN!!!...STU

Top of pageBottom of page   By Russegal (165.247.213.177) on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 12:07 am:

StuBass....

Now that's pretty funny...but what's even funnier is the 15-year old sitting in front of the TV watching "Jackass" who looks EXACTLY like the chubby guy in the checkerboard overalls...my dad always said that if I ate too many of those things....!!!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By M.McLeanTech (66.218.41.191) on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 10:32 pm:

You know you are an old Detroiter if you remember, in 1953, how that smoking loge would fill up with smoke to the point where it was utterly beyond belief, at the Masonic Temple during the intermission at a Detroit Symphony Concert conducted by Paul Paray.

Those Brahms symphonys made a vast impression on me. For me, the relationship between a Beethoven Symphony, like the fifth, and a Brahms symphony, like the the fourth, was in the way the bows moved in the string section. Later, I woke up to the sound.

Mike McLean

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 10:05 am:

We had one Big Boy here in Monterey, but it disappeared and re-surfaced as a Carrow's.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Dick Gamble (216.93.58.222) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 10:28 am:

Radiogoon, I got out of amateur radio in the late 60's after 12 year. The conflict between working in Communications and amatuer radio was just to much.

I'm now retired and living in the northern part of the state with room for just about any antenna array you could ever dream of. I now have my station just about completed and will be be getting my license back as soon and I get up to speed with my CW.

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 12:17 pm:

DICK: YOU ARE SORT OF DOING WHAT I SAID THAT I WOULD DO AT SOME LATER STAGE IN MY LIFE...HAVE MY OWN STATION WITH ME AS PROGRAM DIRECTOR...ON AIR PERSONALITY...NEWSCASTER...GENERAL MANAGER...ETC!!!...I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL EVER PULL IT OFF...BUT JUST WHAT IS IT THAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO???...A BIT EARLY TO START PLANNING MY RETIREMENT...BUT NEVER TO EARLY TO GET SOME IDEAS???...STU...PS...I COULD SPEAK IN ALL "CAPS"

Top of pageBottom of page   By dave (207.241.133.153) on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 02:13 pm:

radigoon & Dick Gamble

de N8EUH

Top of pageBottom of page   By Kegtapper (65.58.39.193) on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 02:45 pm:

hey LARS:
Was that CITY OF DETROIT Scan a diviation of SUPREMES "The Happening?" same writers...

Do you know who the singers were?

Top of pageBottom of page   By Dick Gamble (216.93.58.209) on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 07:25 pm:

Hey Stu,were talking 2 different things here,my station is for amatuer radio and your talking commerical radio station. Are you talking FM station or AM station? Sounds interesting anyway. Hope you can pull it off..

Dave,my transciever is a ICOM IC-746 and am looking for a good power amp at present...

I plan on being on 160m--75m-40m-and 15m when I go for my license again...

all my antennas are up except for a rhombic which I hope I can erect when my woods gets thinned out this spring.

73's
Dick

Top of pageBottom of page   By douglasm (68.113.13.31) on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 09:35 pm:

Stu...
...You used to be able to buy 100 mw FM transmitters at Lafayette Electronics. Unfortunately, Lafayette doesn't exist any more, and the dufus as Radio Shack had no idea what I was talking about. So much for Radio Free Wenatchee.

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (205.188.209.38) on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 09:36 pm:

DICK: ANY KIND OF STATION...AM OR FM...SINCE I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO DO ALL THE THINGS THAT I THOUGHT ALL MY FORMER BOSSES SCREWED UP...AND MAKE ALL THE DECISIONS MYSELF!!!...JUST A DREAM...BUT WHO KNOWS...SOMETIMES DREAMS COME TRUE!!!...STU(WOLFMAN)BASS

Top of pageBottom of page   By Greg C. (209.71.79.185) on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 11:16 pm:

You know you're an old Detroiter if..

..you got your Better Made chips fresh over on Gratiot Avenue.
..remember when Cass Technical High School was connected to Commerce High School by a bridge that crossed over W. Vernor, long before the Fisher Freeway?
..went to Sanders for an ice cream sundae, a soda, or a malt. They were so good!
..remember Poop Deck Paul and Captain Jolly?
..remember Jingles the Clown?
..bought music from Grinell's on Woodward Avenue.
..drove by the old Golden World Record Company on W. Davison.
..went to the Big Boy on the east side over on Harper Avenue near Chalmers. The speakers attached to your car and you'd call your order in and a girl in a uniform would come out to your car with the food order.
..remember Teen Town, Swingin' Summertime which became Swingin'Time?
..the Hudson's Thanksgiving Day Parade with Sonny Eliot and his wife Annette as hosts.
..Esquire's over on Dexter for the best Corned Beef Sandwich in the world!
..the Olympia stadium where the Jackson Five played just about every time they came to town.
..McDonald's were only in the suburbs and you had to drive way the heck out to get to them and the golden arches used to come down and touch the ground.

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (64.12.97.7) on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 11:26 pm:

WELCOME GREG: ESQUIRES DELI...PASTRAMI ON THOSE ONION ROLLS!!!...HEY...WHO REMEMBERS THE "RED BARN" FAST FOOD CHAIN???...MY FRIEND DAVE BARR WORKED AT ONE ON 8 MILE ROAD!!!...HE USED TO SCAM ON SO MUCH OF THEIR FRIED CHICKEN... THAT I GOT INTO THE BACK SEAT OF HIS CAR ONE TIME...AND THERE WERE CHICKEN BONES *EVERYWHERE*!!!... I WAS WAITING FOR A LIVE ROOSTER TO COME FLYING OUT FROM UNDER THE SEAT AT ANY MOMENT!!!...STU

Top of pageBottom of page   By Russegal (165.247.204.54) on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 11:38 pm:

OK Greg....

Do you remember the "Boofland" song!!!????

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jay (24.55.210.61) on Monday, April 14, 2003 - 01:04 am:

Lafayette Coney Island

http://www.jankaulins.com/lafayetteconeyisland.htm

Top of pageBottom of page   By radiogoon (206.148.224.186) on Monday, April 14, 2003 - 01:11 am:

Mr Gamble,

YOu know that the fastest code speed u need to know now is 5 wpm? Novice and Advanced classes are gone. Just Tech, General and Extra now....lemme know when ur back on the air...I love 75 meters at night....3875

73
KF8XO

Top of pageBottom of page   By douglasm (68.113.13.31) on Monday, April 14, 2003 - 10:23 am:

Ah the dim and distant past....
"No matter how big I get
No matter where I go, go, go
I'll always tune my TV set
For the Jingles show"

A Milky The Clown thread made me think of the June Fair at Roosevelt Elementary in Ferndale, where he would appear. What would also show up every year was the John F. Ivory Company's (moving van people) 4 horse hitch pulling an elaborate circus style wagon on which you could ride.

Jingles, if I remember correctly, would play on Channel 9 immediately following Mr. Rodgers Neighborhood (which started on the CBC before it went to PBS) and The Friendly Giant.

Top of pageBottom of page   By douglasm (68.113.13.31) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 11:54 am:

AND
Don't ask me why this poped into my mind a week after the fact, but you're an old Detroiter if you remember...
Leonard Gasoline sponsoring (with Triple A) "Michigan Outdoors" with Mort Neff.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 12:22 pm:

WOW Doug. There's one I totally had forgotten. I loved that show.

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 12:23 pm:

GOOD ONE DOUG: MORT NEFF...SORT OF LIKE CALIFORNIA'S HEWELL HOWSER...TRAVELLING GEEK!!!...BY THE WAY...EARLY ON IN MY BROADCASTING CAREER...I USED TO DO THE AAA WEEKEND AND HOLIDAY TRAFFIC REPORTS TO STATIONS AROUND THE STATE OF MICHIGAN...THIS WAS PRE- METRO TRAFFIC CONTROL AND ALL THOSE TRAFFIC HELICOPTERS WE NOW SEE!!!...MY FAVORITE REPORTS WERE USUALLY THE 4TH OF JULY REPORTS...WHERE IN ADDITION TO REPORTING TRAFFIC...I GOT TO REPORT ON THE ANNUAL "CHERRY PIT SPITTING CONTEST"...WHERE PERINNIAL FAVORITE...RICK "PELLET GUN" KRAUSE WAS CHUCKING THOSE PITS ABOUT 75 FEET...AND TO MY UNDERSTANDING...THE KRAUSE FAMILY HAS BEEN HOLDING THE CROWN EVER SINCE!!!...STUBASS

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ed Golick (68.42.155.37) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 12:24 pm:

The Jingles "Boofland Loyalty Song" lyrics are at www.detroitkidshow.com, along with a Boofland midi. Just click on the picture of Jingles.
I got a copy of the original hand-written sheet music from Larry Sands' daughter.
I recently tracked down Jerry Booth, who was surprised that anyone still remembered Jingles.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Mischas Zucainim (64.12.97.7) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 12:38 pm:

If you still go to the Twenty Grand!!!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jim Feliciano in Detroit. (152.163.188.68) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 12:38 pm:

Remember when our parents would take us shopping to ALDENS Discount Department Stores?

Definately, Alden's was at one time... was, metro Detroit's ('pre-KMart') number one shopping store for great 'savings' and 'deep-down' store discounts!

Top of pageBottom of page   By Greg C. (209.71.79.218) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 06:52 pm:

Remember Atlantic Mills (Hart & Mack Ave), Spartans (E. Warren & Conner), and Arlans (E. Grand Blvd. & Concord)? They were the pre "Wal-Mart, K-mart's" of the day.

Remember Superior Potato Chips?

Remember the submarine sandwiches at Kresge's downtown? Get youself a bag of Better Made Chips and you had a meal!

Remember LaGreens Discount Record Center and Monroe Music in Downtown Detroit? The best places to pick up the latest soul jams.

Remember Demery's Department Store in the Woodward/Grand Blvd. area?

The U/F Torch drive and how every autumn a huge torch was erected and luminated at the foot of Woodward Avenue and Jefferson?

Downtown Detroit Days? (DD Days) Sales galore!

Qwickie Doughnuts. The food was horrible! The only reason you went up in that place was for the doughnuts!

Top of pageBottom of page   By M.McLeanTech (66.218.59.233) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 11:31 pm:

Greg C.:

Remember Superior Potato Chips? (you said)

In 1957, I was a pathetic punk nurd who was lost. I got a job working for fifty cents an hour at the Norwest Theatre. While I was there, I saw "King Criol" (spelling?) with Elvis, an excellant film for classic rock fans, first run. As I said "Good evening sir. Thank you." to each customer, and ripped the sixty-five cent ticket, I never dreamed that I would be a person who would be admired by Motown fans. I was down and out in the pit of adolesence.

One of the most strange habits that I had at that time was the long Saturday or Sunday days, where I opened the theatre at a little after noon, and stood on that ticket box until my break at 4:00PM.

I was hot for a break! I always had a bag lunch of two fat tuna salid sandwichs that my Mom made for me (which I absolutly loved, and to which I was addicted) but I absolutly had to blow a half hours pay on a twenty five cent bag of Superior Potato Chips. Those exquisite chips put the extra something into the break that made it work for me.

They came in a special bag that was soft and supple, instead of crackly (bad in a movie theatre) hard, and unfriendly. That 25 cent bag was for me like a Mozart symphony, into which, at the time, I was very much into listening.

Those Superior Potato Chips were the very best I have ever run across. They were a true ultra high quality product, like Beethoven.

Thank you for your wonderful observation.

Sincerely,

Mike McLean

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (205.188.209.16) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 11:57 pm:

HEY MIKE: I'LL BET THOSE CHIPS WOULD GO GREAT WITH AN ORDER OF THOSE "DR. HOGGLY WOGGLY" RIBS!!!...STU(GETTIN HUNGRY)BASS

Top of pageBottom of page   By M.McLeanTech (66.218.59.233) on Monday, April 21, 2003 - 01:20 am:

Dutch?

When?

Wanna go to my place and play old records after?

I don't know if I can trust you. Check with Larry. We are like brothers.

Larry is like manna from heaven. Do you realize how deeply I feel alone.

You argued with me about caps.

There is no reason why you and Larry can not both be friends, if I can convince you that I am a decent person. (There is no doubt in my mind that I can establish myself in your mind as a person who can honorably lead you to a more educated level.)

Professor her: Oh poo! I want to be a baby!

Watch Laurel and Hardy.

I am stable. I have respect for the law. I am a convicted felon (1960).

When hot rodding with my partner beside me, I smashed up our hot rod and he was killed. I was convicted of negligent homiside in the summer of 1960.

My emotions are as mixed up as are those fools that think Motown is superior to Beethoven.

Take my word for it: I love you Motown fans, but, in my opinion, you are fools.

I make that statement on the basis that Beethoven is better!

For sure!!!!!

Love,

Mike McLean

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jay (24.55.210.61) on Monday, April 21, 2003 - 01:41 am:

My dad used to bring home New Era Potato Chips in a tall metal can!

How about Captain Jolly

How About WJR and WXYZ having their own house bands.

Top of pageBottom of page   By M.McLeanTech (66.218.59.233) on Monday, April 21, 2003 - 02:19 am:

You have not responded to original effort to reach out to the stuff that I am trying to keep right as I type.

Who invented Color Television? It was the Radio Corporation of America. Under the direction of General David Sarnoff.

I was not a part of this.

Think of the picture of "pop" music, as I, wine soaked, try to imagine a world where things are "done right"

My boss structure told me what to do.

I am sluggish!

I want to get back on cooperation!

Love you,

Mike McLean

Top of pageBottom of page   By douglasm (68.113.13.31) on Monday, April 21, 2003 - 09:11 am:

Karl Hass' "Adventures In Good Music"
"Kalidascope"
"J.P. McCarthy's "Focus" after the 15 minute noon news on WJR.
The 15 minute news block at 11 pm, followed by Paul Carey's 15 minute sports block on "The Great Voice Of The Great Lakes".

Top of pageBottom of page   By medusa9e (66.73.8.25) on Monday, April 21, 2003 - 10:54 am:

Couldn't wait 2 get home from school 2 watch Robin Seymore on "Swingin' Time and on saturdays watch Club1270. I 4got the name of the 2 guys who hosted the show...and by the way, my phone # started with TW(Twinbrook) which actually was 89-1 or 2 or 3...later they started the FO(Forest)36-6 0r 8. I loved the Hercules Cartoon show, with Johnny Nash singing the Hercules song, and believe it or not, I still remember that song.4 some reason, I never liked cartoons with animals
that talked.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Lynn Bruce (65.60.202.214) on Monday, April 21, 2003 - 12:56 pm:

Your an old Detroiter if you watched the George Peroit(SP) travel show with him falling asleep while his travelog guests narrated their travel movies.A guy named Stan Midgley was a regular,showing a lot of upper michigan and Ontario adventures,with comical quips.
I think it was it called the World Adventure Series.
Anybody remember traveling down Hastings street in the evening and having(ahem)sporting ladies yell out "GO AROUND THE CORNER,GO AROUND THE CORNER"!!!
I never did have the nerve to go around that corner!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By the railfanish douglasm (68.113.13.31) on Monday, April 21, 2003 - 01:02 pm:

Lynn....
....you win ".....An All Expense Paid Vacation Around George Periot!!"
The show promoted the World Adventure Series, a travelogue show at the Detroit Institute Of Arts. I always looked forward to Midgley's visits, as he had great late '40's footage of Colorado, especially the silver San Juan area, with excellent footage of the narrow guage railroads in the area. Wonder if that stuff's available on tape?

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ed Golick (68.42.155.37) on Monday, April 21, 2003 - 04:03 pm:

George Pierrot donated his personal papers to the Burton Historical Collection. There are no existing tapes of the show.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Monday, April 21, 2003 - 05:37 pm:

When I was with The Sunliners George came to see us at the Cliche twice. He was a very interesting man and we enjoyed his visits.

Top of pageBottom of page   By M.McLeanTech (66.218.40.142) on Monday, April 21, 2003 - 06:02 pm:

Oops! Another foot print by Mr Hyde.

Sorry about that!

Mike McLean

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jim Feliciano in Detroit. (152.163.188.68) on Monday, April 21, 2003 - 06:14 pm:

You know you're an 'old' Detroiter if, you still live in the same 'ole neigborhood (you grew with) in southwest Detroit and, you're still there, never having left-- HEY THAT'S ME!

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (64.12.97.7) on Monday, April 21, 2003 - 09:14 pm:

HEY GUYS!!!...IT'S TOO BAD THAT GEORGE PEROT...WHO LEGEND HAS IT LIKED TO TIP THE CUP A BIT...WASN'T AROUND FOR "THE DISCOVERY CHANNEL"...LIKE HE WAS DOING THAT STUFF ALMOST 50 YEARS AGO...AND WITH THE ADVANCES IN MOTION PHOTOGRAPHY THESE DAYS...GEORGE COULD HAVE PROBABLY STAYED AWAKE!!!...STU

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jim Feliciano in Detroit. (64.12.97.7) on Monday, April 21, 2003 - 09:33 pm:

Stu, you are one 'funny' guy, and... guess what, I love all your posts!

Top of pageBottom of page   By Uptight (24.55.6.144) on Tuesday, April 22, 2003 - 08:50 am:

I used to love watching "The Four O'Clock Movie" on WXYZ-Channel 7 with my siblings. I mostly liked the Godzilla movies they showed! "The Oprah" show wasn't even thought of yet.

Whenever I visit Detroit, it's refreshing to see news broadcasters like Diana Lewis and Doris Biscoe still looking great on TV. These ladies ARE still on the air, aren't they?

Top of pageBottom of page   By 65memories (66.72.187.67) on Tuesday, April 22, 2003 - 09:50 am:

Uptight...
Diana Lewis is still on Channel 7. Doris Biscoe has been off the air for some years now, but she runs her own public relations/consulting firm and does free lance stuff every now and then.
medusa...
the Club 1270 hosts were Lee Alan and Joel Sebastian.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Uptight (24.55.6.144) on Tuesday, April 22, 2003 - 09:57 am:

Oh, thanks 65memories.

Top of pageBottom of page   By douglasm (68.113.13.31) on Tuesday, April 22, 2003 - 10:04 am:

I'd bring up Bill Kennedy on Channel 9 with the Mid-Day Movie, but then I'd be showing my age. I won't even mention Ed MacKenzie's little show just before sign-off on WXYZ-TV.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Sue (205.188.209.109) on Tuesday, April 22, 2003 - 10:08 am:

Dave Prince was also on Club 1270 as a host, either before or after Lee was ...

Top of pageBottom of page   By douglasm (68.113.13.31) on Tuesday, April 22, 2003 - 10:20 am:

Ed....
Didn't Jerry and Larry attempt to start a "Boofland Amusement Park" in the Windsor area? And, how can we mention Jingles and not bring up Herkimer the Dragon?

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Tuesday, April 22, 2003 - 10:21 am:

STUBASS MEMORY OF DORIS BISCOE... IS RETURNING HOME ONE DAY (WHEN I LIVED AT 1300 LAFAYETTE)...NOT BEING ABLE TO PULL INTO THE UNDERGROUND GARAGE...IT WAS BLOCKED OFF...AND THIS RATHER ATTRACTIVE WOMAN COMES WALKING UP TO ME WITH A PLEASANT ENOUGH SMILE ON HER FACE!!!...I RECOGNIZED HER AS THE YOUNG LADY FROM CHANNEL 7...DORIS BISCOE!!!...WHY IS SHE APPROACHING ME???...MAYBE TO ASK ME OUT ON A DATE OR SOMETHING... IN THAT WE MAY HAVE CROSSED PATHS AT SOME TIME OR ANOTHER???...THE FIRST WORDS OUT OF HER MOUTH..."DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE MORGUE TRUCKS ARE"???...WHAAAAAT???...SEEMS THAT SOME GUY MURDERED FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING OVER A DRUG DISPUTE OR SOMETHING...BULLET HOLES ALL OVER THE PLACE...AND A GUY NAMED "RIDGEWAY" IN CUSTODY!!!...TIGER GENERAL MANAGER JIM CAMPBELL HAD BULLETS COMING THROUGHT THE WALLS INTO HIS APARTMENT...AND UAW PRESIDENT LEONARD WOODCOCK BEING ESCORTED FRFOM THE BUILDING FOR SAFETY PRECAUTIONS!!!...HEY DORIS: THERE MAY BE A SPOT FOR YOU IN THE "ANGELS"...YOU NEED JUST APPLY!!!...STUBASS

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ed Golick (68.42.155.37) on Tuesday, April 22, 2003 - 10:21 am:

You Know You're From Detroit If... is a new website for posting your Detroit memories. Check it out at http://www.eileenglick.com/detroit.html

Top of pageBottom of page   By 65memories (66.72.187.67) on Tuesday, April 22, 2003 - 10:50 am:

Ed...
Tell Eileen it's a great website! Thanks for putting it all together in one package.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ed Golick (68.42.155.37) on Tuesday, April 22, 2003 - 12:48 pm:

Douglasm,
Boofland Amusement Park opened in the Spring of 1960. It was located off Ontario Highway 3, near the Ambassador Bridge. On the park's opening weekend, 3,500 people showed up in cold, wet weather to meet Jingles.
Booth said, "If we can keep growing we hope we can make our park as distinguished as Walt Disney has made his."
The park had a mid-sized roller coaster along with a handful of kiddie rides, and plywood cutouts of Boofland characters. I have some photographs of the park. Not much to write home about. Boofland only lasted for about a year.

Ricky the Clown had Rickyland, which was a bit nicer than Boofland. Admission was on the honor system. He kept a big fishbowl at the entrance for donations. He recalls only one time seeing any money in the bowl. When he went to retrieve it at the end of the day, the money was gone. Rickyland also lasted for about a year.

Sagebrush Shorty hoped to one day build a Western-themed amusement park in Detroit, but he couldn't find any investors.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jim Feliciano in Detroit. (152.163.188.68) on Wednesday, April 23, 2003 - 04:26 am:

Hey, it's a hot summer, and it's August, 1964....
who could forget those 'amusement' rides we'd pay p.o.p (Pay One Price) to get in, and we would just ride that (rickety) wooden 'roller coaster' at EDGEWATER Park, ride all day... for just $1.25!

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (205.188.209.109) on Wednesday, April 23, 2003 - 08:41 am:

HEY JIM: AT THE END OF THE DAY...WE'D GO JUMP ON THOSE TRAMPOLINES THEY HAD BUILT INTO THE GROUND!!...DIDN'T THEY HAVE A "WILD MOUSE" THERE TOO???...PLUS...THEY HAD THAT GOOFY HOUSE OF MIRRORS THAT TOOK ABOUT A MINUTE-AND-A- HALF TO WALK THROUGH!!!...SOUNDS LIKE A BOBBY ELI SONG!!!...STUBASS

Top of pageBottom of page   By Russegal (64.166.136.86) on Wednesday, April 23, 2003 - 10:50 am:

StuBass,

When did you live at 1300 E. Lafayette?

Top of pageBottom of page   By Russegal (64.166.136.86) on Wednesday, April 23, 2003 - 10:53 am:

Medusa,

My phone exchange used to be TWinbrook also....maybe we know each other...what schools did you go to??

Top of pageBottom of page   By STUBASS (64.12.97.7) on Wednesday, April 23, 2003 - 12:00 pm:

RUSSEGAL: I LIVED THERE FROM 72 TO 76!!!...DID YOU LIVE THERE TOO???...STU

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Wednesday, April 23, 2003 - 12:31 pm:

Jim Feliciano- Edgewater Park was great. They also had entertainment there. I saw several soul groups there.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Russegal (64.166.136.86) on Wednesday, April 23, 2003 - 12:39 pm:

StuBass:


No, I did not live there...but I DID spend alot of time there between 67 and 73. My best friend in high school and for a few years beyond that is Ron Miller's step daughter. Seems there were alot of music and theatrical types in that building! They alternated residences between Detroit and Chicago. When they were away, we (Deb & me) "apartment sat". With two gals in their late teens, early twenties, you can probably just imagine what that meant...good times those were!!! Generally, it seemed that alot of really strange stuff went down in that building. I recall cops in the hallways on more than one occasion and was once stopped and questioned myself.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jim Feliciano in Detroit. (152.163.188.68) on Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 08:22 pm:

Hi SisDetroit!
Yes, you are correct... there were many a 'Motown' acts that used to perform at Edgewater Park, during the (mid to late) 1960s!

I recall that WKNR and WJBK would make the spot announcements informing who would perform there, like on the summer weekends.

The Four Tops used to be a big draw wherever they would perform at Edgewater, but so did "Little" Stevie Wonder, the Supremes, and, Mary Wells... she would be there as well, doing her solo 'Motown' thing!

Somewhere, I read once that Marvin Gaye was there once in 1966, about July or August, he made a surprise 'cameo' appearance on the same day, together... along with the Righteous Brothers!

And I remember that 'SAM THE SHAM' was there at the park once, just the same... but he made his appearance, along with the 'PHAROAHS'... sometime during late summer, in 1967.

To reparaphrase what WKNR's Scott Regen used to always say on the SCOTT REGEN SHOW, "wow... (Edgewater Park) now that must've been a gas!"

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jim Feliciano in Detroit. (152.163.188.68) on Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 08:58 pm:

StuBass,
Your recollections were precisely as you transcribed... sort of like the old 'Coney Island' on the east coast, there... but, without the 'boardwalk' and the sandy beaches... here.

Hey, I can hear it now... those old radio ads for the park, in the 1960s... "so come, to the fan-tabulous, fabulous... Edgewater Park!"

Top of pageBottom of page   By Sue (152.163.188.68) on Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 09:06 pm:

I just felt like I would die if my parents didn't take me to Edgewater Park -- I didn't get there as often as I would have liked, because my mother had this thing against amusement parks (??). I'm sure I was geeked up by listening to Keener all the time. I remember the Edgewater Wild Mouse well, and there was music blaring there all the time. What's there now, where Edgewater used to be?

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 09:33 pm:

I think Greater Grace (formerly on Schaffer & 7Mile) purchased that land over there.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ed Golick (68.42.155.37) on Friday, April 25, 2003 - 07:57 am:

You can hear a vintage Keener Edgewater spot on the WKNR page, http://www.keener13.com/spots/Default.htm

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jim Feliciano in Detroit. (64.12.97.7) on Friday, April 25, 2003 - 03:44 pm:

Hi Sue!
Here's further confirmation as to what 'SisDetroit' had touched on... in response to your question, here's a little more info about (the formerly) Edgewater Amusement Park:

http://www.waterwinterwonderland.com/amuse.asp?id=301&type=2

Top of pageBottom of page   By Greg C. (209.71.79.212) on Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 11:31 am:

Club 1270!! Hosts were Dave Prince and Joel Sebastian.

My favorite airing of that show was the one when the Velvelettes came on to do their new recording of "A Bird In The Hand Is Worth Two In The Bush." They had on these tight formals with a big bow in the front and a jewel in the center of the bow. The routine they performed to that song was so tight and those steps were hot! Defintely Cholly Atkins moves!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By 65memories (66.72.183.95) on Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 12:10 pm:

Sue and Greg...
Here's a snippet from Centurion on Keith Milford's Vintage Detroit website which should clear up some Club 1270 questions:

"Club 1270
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In the early 60's there was a local teen dance show on Channel 7 called "Club 1270" and stared Lee Alan and Joel Sebastian. David Prince was a fill during the early years and then became the star when both Alan and Sebastian left. Between 1964 and late 1965 I was a regular on the show. Some of the Motown talent were regular guests on the show as well as many of the national stars who sang their hit song. One of my most fond memories of that show was buring the taping of the Halloween show in 1964. Cassius Clay (Muhammed Ali) was a guest on the show. He and Alan got into a pre-arranged argument and Clay stormed off the set as was his schtick during that time. I was dressed as a werewolf and when Clay walked past me I bared my teeth and growled at him. He laughed and acted like he was scared, shook my hand and walked away."


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