By boynextdoor (65.238.6.121) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 07:38 am:

Does anyone know if other Record Companies besides Motown recorded girl groups in Detroit?

By Mark Speck (65.56.222.23) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 04:48 pm:

Lupine released tracks by the Primettes (early Supremes) and Ruby Yates (her tune "It's Been a Long Time" was recut and released on Hit Productions).

Also, Solid Hit had the Debutantes and Pat Lewis on their roster.

Best,

Mark

By thecount (65.60.201.174) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 05:10 pm:

TWRIL-BIG TOP lables with H.B. and I.M.
recorded THE YOUNG SISTERS.They did a lot of back-up vocals for so many DETROIT artists,and hardly got the publicity and credits they so rightfully deserve.3hree very pretty girls.
I was in love with all of them,especialy,PATTY YOUNG.The only girl in the group with the last name of YOUNG.
"COUNT"

By Ritchie (62.254.0.9) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 05:38 pm:

The Young Sisters backed up Del Shannon on a number of his hits, including "Little Town Flirt" and its great flip "The Wamboo".

By MickD (217.44.215.191) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 05:56 pm:

Golden World and solid hit recorded The Debonnaires

Topper recorded Dottie and Millie

Ruby recorded the Wonderettes

also Gi Gi and the Charmaines were recorded by Columbia, not a Detroit label but it's highly likely they were Detroit recordings.


MickD

By acooolcat (61.222.95.58) on Monday, March 10, 2003 - 11:33 pm:

Here are a few girl groups that recorded on Detroit labels...

The Stereophonics on the Cha-Tok label.
The Sty-letts on the Pillar label.
The Sharpetts on the Sound City label.

Graham

By MEL&THEN SOME (195.219.7.30) on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 12:32 pm:

The Adorables on Golden World.
The Barbees on Stepp Records.
The Dolls on Maltese and Kangaroo.
The Del-Fi's on Cadette.
The Sophisticates on Mutt Records.
The Gambrells on Carla.
The Perigents on Maltese.
The Devotions on Tri-Sound.
The Girls from Syracuse on Palmer Records.
Honey and the Bees on Garrison.
The Embraceables on Sidra Records.
Cynthia and the Imaginations on Magic City.
The Lollipops on Impact.
Judi and the Affections on Top Ten Records.
The Ebonies who sang back-up on Eddie Parkers 'Love you Baby' on Ashford Records,and were Lorraine Chandler,Emma Nebbins and Effie Ellington.
Johnnie Mae Matthews and the Wonderettes on Art.
The Sequins on Detroit Sound.
Detroit Sound on Wyncot.
Mel.

By stephanie (64.63.221.33) on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 04:44 pm:

I have a question. Some of the groups that Mel named above what were the average sales for their records in the neighborhood of 20,000 or 10,000 or does anyone know?
Stephanie

By Scratcher (65.133.219.63) on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 06:39 pm:

I think you'll find that your low figure is quite high for the recordings that Mel posted Stephanie.

The owner of King Records (Syd Nathan) once said he would press up 50 copies of a record by a new or non hit artist and shop them to DJs in a 150 miles radius. If it stiffed and didn't generate any interest he didn't press anymore.

King could do this because they were a complete record company under one roof. They recorded, pressed copies, made the LP covers, etc.

By acooolcat (61.222.95.58) on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 10:29 pm:

Hi Mel
I believe the Imaginations on Magic City and Blue Rock included a guy or two. It was a different group to the "Imaginary Three" that backed Cynthia on her later Big Hit 45.
Cheers, Graham

By Marc Forrest (145.243.194.67) on Thursday, March 13, 2003 - 01:14 pm:

I can add the
Soulettes on Scope
Utopias on Lasalle
and on Hi Q
Dreamgirls on Metro
Dolls on Maltese
Cozy on Fortune
Gambrells on Pioneer
Debonnaires on Golden World

so many...
Ruby Yates 45 saw also the release via Yvonne Vernee on Sonbert

By Mark Speck (65.57.17.14) on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 12:34 am:

And the Gambrells were also on Cub, as were the Petites!

Best,

Mark

By MEL&THEN SOME (195.219.7.26) on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 12:10 pm:

Thanks for that Graham.
mel.

By keith.rylatt@tesco.net (217.137.88.50) on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 03:36 am:

Marc or anyone. You mention the Dream Girls on Metro. Were these the same group who were on Twirl? Also was there a Detroit based Metro label please? I only have details of the New York one, owned by Leonard Feathers & Leroy Holmes with the Dream Girls - #20034 - `Heartaches` / `Love Him`. Keith.

By Joe Moorehouse (205.188.209.38) on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 06:38 am:

One of the toughest Detroit records, The Camaros on Dar-Cha is a girl group. And I think many of Bobby Smith's records (on Big Top and American Arts were recorded in Detroit, though I don't know about the one on Bell.

By Davie Gordon (193.122.21.42) on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 02:29 pm:

Keith,

Metro was a division of MGM - there's also
a Royal Jokers single on the label.

I don't know for definite but it's very likely the
group on Metro is the same as on Big Top as
both the Dream Girls and the Royal Jokers were
produced (and probably managed) by Harry Balk.

Davie