By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 10:12 pm: |
Deke,
As I said you are HOT, HOT, HOT. Carry on with your good stuff.
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 11:37 am: |
Hi Soulkiddies,
Thanks so much for staying in touch. Page 3? I guess I'll have to get going and find a goodie for you for this page. Be patient, I kept a mini diary, some chicken scratches on pads and some tapes. I'll really try get something together for you when things calm down this weekend.
Now a quickie note for PROMISES KEPT:
You have a good ear. You are right about "You're Love Makes It All Worth While". I don't remember how it went down, but Detroit got a hold of that Multi-Track master tape. (Note: I think it was put on a tape with some other masters from Detroit, so it got sent back to them. Then, when it came time to finish the final mixes, since the tape was there, they mixed it. I was looking the other way (or just wasn't paying attention), or I would have requested a re-mix. I have always had the most respect for their mixes, but this one . . . they sure messed it up. I even recall they used the wrong lead or double lead in some spots. I have to check it out again.
My best to you all,
Deke
By cleoharvey (160.79.83.208) on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 03:13 pm: |
Deke
I think that it was I who made the comment about Your Love Makes It All Wothwhile (not that it makes any difference). I loved the Corporation work on "Black Magic" and the mix on that song was strange. The Martha Reeves I Want You Back is smokin.
You may have already answered this but what are you working on now my friend? I hope that you have projects up the wazoo.
I think it would be incredible if they people around Diana let her go back into the studio and do an album with you, Clay McMurray, and Frank Wilson. Give her a new start be revisiting the quality that you guys once cushioned her with. Despite her problems, I feel that there is another hit album inside of Queen Bee. Not trying to keep up with the hip hop girls but doing quality, melodic music.
Of course the fans would die and go to heaven if Diana, Mary, and Cindy would do another Supremes album. Not likely, but I can dream can I.
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 03:33 pm: |
Michael,
Sorry, you're right. Oh-Oh! I turn just one page and there's 'Trouble in River City'. (Smile)
Diana and Supremes Dreams?
That would be nice. I wouldn't like to see Ms. D go down the Cher road either. I mean, Lady Day was, and will always be Lady Day. Dreams are a good thing. You'd be surprised, sometimes they do come true.
What am I working on?
Unfortunately, some non-music related biz right now. However, I'll let you know if and when . . 'Deke Strikes Back!'
Take Care,
DR
By Promises Kept (12.227.139.195) on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 04:25 pm: |
Ooooh! Cleo! Another DRATS LP, indeed! I love this idea! Cheer Diana up.....give Mary some exposure.....and make Cindy's day! Now my friends, just how much would you all pay for such a hot CD to be in your hands? Or maybe one new song and 11 unreleased gems? Give me a pig-foot and a bottle of O'Douls!
By cleoharvey (160.79.83.208) on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 11:51 am: |
To Deke:
The best of luck to you on whatever you are doing!! Any other stories about creating music at Motown that are impossibly gurgling inside of you and need an outlet, please share them with us. I for one, and I am sure everyone on this forum will be absolutely delighted. Besides my friend it would force you to work on and finish that book that is so obviously part of you.
As for Diana Ross and the Supremes, lord knows dreams do come true and it would make fans delirious. I am going to keep whispering the words "Deke Richards" in Mary Wilson's ear.
Promises Kept
LOL!!!!!! Can you imagine Queen Bee, Mary, and Cindy going back into the studio with Deke Richards and Frank Wilson, or Clay McMurray...... Excuse me I have to go take a cold shower. LOL!!!
Michael
By John Perrone (152.163.188.68) on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 07:59 pm: |
Deke...unfortunately, I just found your "Love Child" installments...fortunately, I was able to read them all in one sitting without the grueling
wait that others had to stand. I would just like to add that your writing is totally captivating, motivating so much excitement and suspense, giving such interesting details so that we can get a real feeling for the
process you and your partners went through. I think what I enjoyed most is your sense of humor
and that your story weaving really showed the humanity of all those involved.
I have enjoyed your music with Motown for many, MANY years. I have a radio show out of Provincetown, Cape Cod (on a non-commercial station...WOMR 92.1 FM)where I play mostly Motown
...and so many of your songs are staples of my show. Thank you for the music! John
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 11:08 am: |
John Perrone,
. . . and thank you for your kind words. Good to hear you help to keep Motown alive and kickin'. How about forwarding your address of your station there. If I get in your area, I'll get in touch.
Best Regards,
Deke
By John Perrone (205.188.209.38) on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 10:32 pm: |
Deke....just a little info about the station and my show...WOMR 92.1 Fm and live on the internet at www.womr.org is a non commercial, listener
funded station with an eclectic roster of shows...
jazz, reggae, world, classical and opera (we have the only presentation on Cape Cod of Live at the Met), many talk shows related to environmental issues, health, gay issues. My show "NIGHTFLIGHT"
airs on alternating Tues 9P-12M (this past Tues),
Alternating Sun 1AM-4AM (2/2) and alternating
Thurs 12m-Fri 3A...all ET/USA. The address is
9 Center Street, Provincetown, MA 02657. The toll free number is 1800-921-womr. I specialize in Motown 60's-80's. I'll air a show this Sun..of all live Motown performances...sort of an ENORMOUS MOTORTOWN REVUE. You can email me at
jpatpt@yahoo.com I'd love to have an opportunity to chat with you further...maybe have you on the phone during a show for a chat...maybe
to answer questions fans have. It would be great to expand on the wonderful things you've shared about your involvement with Martha Reeves, the Clan, etc. Thanks so much for your input on Soulful Detroit. It's really nice to have you around, Deke. Thanks so much. John
By Promises Kept (12.227.139.195) on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 11:51 pm: |
Cool! and Double Cool!!
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 05:20 am: |
I'm back, Soulkiddies.
Here's another tale from my 'Midnight At Motown' archives. This is the story of . . .
"The White Boy, The White Girl and The White Label"
I hadn't been with Motown very long before I heard about Chris Clark. Berry had signed me to a producer and writers contract and Debbie Dean to a artist and writers contract in 1966. Debbie was the first white artist on Motown in the early '60's. I was under the impression Debbie was still going to hold that title the second time around. Berry wanted to put Debbie on his new label V.I.P. However, then I heard this record on another white female artist he signed to the VIP label. It was Chris Clark. Her record was "Love's Gone Bad". I always thought that was a great record. I also believed it could be rough getting two white female singers, on the same label off the ground at the same time. However, what did I know about these things? I just kept thinking to myself, 'Mr. Gordy must know what he's doing'. During my first 1-1/2 years with Motown, I had casually talked to Chris on different occasions at Gordy Manor, and at Hitsville. I got along fine with Chris. She definitely had a bit of an attitude, but I soon realized it wasn't because of her connection with Berry. It was simply a part of Chris' personality. She just had confidence, that's all. She carried herself well, had a soft voice and a dry, sometimes 'stinging' sense of humor.
Now I have to jump down to early 1969. Not only had "Love Child" been a smash; but Motown enjoyed it's best time in history during December of 1968 on the Billboard charts. Stevie's "For Once In My Life" and Marvin's "Grapevine" kept 'Love Child' company at the top of the pop charts. What a glorious time it was for Motown. The 'Love Child' experience had helped to create a strong bond between Berry and myself. We both had gained a good amount of respect for one another. He gave me a 'second chance', and I came through for him; while at the same time saving my own face. So when he asked me to come up with something for Chris Clark, I told him I would do my best. At least, the timing was right. I was no longer recording Debbie Dean. Debbie had only one release in 1967, "Why Am I Loving You?. Motown never released a second record. You see, Debbie had competition; Chris Clark had moved into town . . . Motown that is. I believe Berry had finally come to the conclusion that one white 'female' artist was all he could handle at a time. I wouldn't doubt if Chris Clark may have had a few words with Berry about it as well. The situation might have been different had one of the girls gotten a hit record, but they were both 'hitless'. They both needed a special kind of attention. Debbie saw the potential problems and after meeting with Berry, decided to let her artist career go and concentrate more on writing. Now, that helped relieve Berry of his personal conflict of interests: 2 white female artists.
You need to keep in mind, many producers had only recorded Chris for a couple of reasons: 1) Either Berry made a personal request directly or via the A&R Department, or 2) Producers felt they would get a decent 'shake', If they did get the release on Chris. At least, they knew Berry would do his best to help promote the record. After all, she and Berry were close. You didn't have to have eyes in the back of your head to know that fact. However, some producers still vacillated when it came to cutting great tunes on Chris. It was not a question of Chris' ability to handle the material. More than likely, some writers simply wanted to save their better songs, for the bigger name artists. After all, this was Motown. Wouldn't you rather have had your 'hit' song recorded by the Tempts, Supremes, Martha, Smokey, Stevie, etc., instead of Chris Clark? On the other side of the coin, a rose, is a rose, is a rose. In other words, a hit, is a hit, is a hit; no matter who it's on.
While I was in Detroit, I went ahead and cut three totally different types on songs on Chris. I just wasn't sure what direction would be right for her. One of the cuts, "Can I See You In The Morning?" was my favorite and I had written it especially for her. After I completed her first vocal overdub, Chris liked it and took home a tape copy for Berry to hear. I didn't think much of it at the time, because Chris played everything for Berry that she was currently recording. However, Berry gave me a call at my hotel and told me he liked the song and felt it could be the next single for Chris. I told him I was scheduled to go in the studio to do the various BG vocals and horn overdubs. Chris' tune was on the list. Then, I was taking a day off before returning to LA. Berry said, "Fine. Chris and I are leaving for California tomorrow. Call me when you get in, so we could hear the finished production." So, I completed my sessions, kicked back for a day and then left Detroit.
With bags in hand, I walked into my place in LA, and saw the message light on my answering machine. Nothing much, just 4 calls from Berry. He wanted me to come up to the house as soon as I got in. I partially unpacked, grabbed the tape from the session, threw some water on my face and jumped in the car. When I got to Berry's house, I heard the tune playing on the pool speakers. 'They're playing my song. That was a good sign', I thought. Then all of a sudden I heard the horns and BG vocals. What's going on here? I just finished that 3 days ago in Detroit. I was the only one who had a copy. Wrong! Berry had already ordered a rough mix sent to him from Detroit, and he and Chris had been listening to it for the last two days. (Note: See the neat things you can do when you're the President of Motown? I could just see him going to Paris and telling his long time assistant/secretary Rebecca Jiles, "I'll be at the hotel at 2 PM. Have an acetate cut from Deke's session on Chris, and sent to me there. I want it to be on the turntable in my room when I arrive!". It somehow reminded me of 'The Eyes In The Sky' in Las Vegas.) Well, we all sat for a minute and some suggestions about the song were passed back and forth. Then, out of nowhere Berry just blurted out, "I want you to cut Chris Clark!" Right! Yea? So? Great, I thought. "Isn't that who I just recorded and who we were listening to?", I said. Berry, lightly laughed. "I mean I want you to cut an entire LP on Chris", he said. Now, Chris was in the room at the time. They had to have been discussing this for a while. Between Chris getting along with me in the studio; Berry and I working together closely on 'Love Child' and Berry and Chris liking 'Can I See You In The Morning", I had just secured a brand new 'job offer'.
How could I have known, that my response was going to take me into a new and exciting world of independance? This would become the second phase of my life at Motown. If I decided to do this LP, would I be saddled with Chris Clark forever? Was I being moved into the 'white sector' of Motown? Was I ready for "The Politics Of Dancing"? Would I ever again be able to record my favorite artists on Motown; or would I find 'my favorite artists' on another label?
. . . to be continued
By John Lester (62.49.61.57) on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 10:57 am: |
.....and just when I was starting to get some early nights!
Is this leading to a celebration! LOL
By Steve Litos (209.100.86.4) on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 11:10 am: |
Deke's back with a vengance! Look out! I think we have another winner here.
I guess you were one of the "in crowd" since you had an answering machine back in 1969!
By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 12:00 pm: |
Deke:
Once again you amaze us with your anecdotes of the Motown days.
I'm setting up my own record label here in NYC. Please let me know if you have any new songs my artists can record.
Best always,
Kevin Goins - KevGo
By John Perrone (64.12.105.177) on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 01:32 pm: |
Deke...another wonderful series has started....and with Chris Clark!!! What a surprise! I certainly appreciate the delicate honesty with which you write about these artists.
You are one CLASS ACT!!! Thanks so much! John
By TonyRussi (68.18.226.42) on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 01:57 pm: |
DEke this is such an interesting tale,however, I do have an unrelated question:"People Gotta Be Free" that you did on Martha Reeves "Natural Resources"LP...is that Lois Reeves & Sandra Tilley on backgrounds?I think I hear Lois' voice.Thanks for all the great music!
By Nish (66.119.33.170) on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 03:06 pm: |
What an opener! I can tell this latest chronicle is going to be as good as the love child saga!
By cleoharvey (160.79.83.208) on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 05:06 pm: |
Deke:
So, my friend what draft of your upcoming, exciting, insightful book are you on? I think some titles to be considered are:
I Can't Dancing to the Music You're Playing: A History of Motown behind the scenes.
Love Child: Saga of a Producer/Writer of Motown
Berry and Me (oops, that one is taken)
A Producer's Story
Motown, Queen Bee, and Me
or simply Deke Richards
In any event, I hope you are compiling these wonderful stories. You and Clay McMurray are the reason I return to this forum time after time.
Question: who was the quickest study at Motown in terms of learning a new song? There are stories of artists having to be fed every line and taught how to sing and there were those who could do a song in two or three takes.
Peace,
Michael
By stephanie (207.94.146.229) on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 08:38 pm: |
Deke
When I listened to the Supremes Box Set one of the songs I listen to the most is
The Beginning of the End of Love it sounds so mystical and I wish they had released it as a single.....you have a habit of making things sound mystical or dreamy like Love Child...
Stephanie
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 09:04 pm: |
Just wanted to jump in and say thanks for the continued interest and support. Here are a few answers to the last round of queries:
�� By Steve Litos (209.100.86.4) on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 11:10 am:
I guess you were one of the "in crowd" since you had an answering machine back in 1969!
Steve,
Funny you caught that. I had one of the very first answering machines. I think it was called Tron or Tac Tron. One of my electrical genius friends had somehow gotten a hold of it in Japan from his electronic contacts there. It used a small reel to reel. Then he made some modifications and changed the voltage. It was a weird, but it worked.
�� By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 12:00 pm:
Deke:
Once again you amaze us with your anecdotes of the Motown days.
I'm setting up my own record label here in NYC. Please let me know if you have any new songs my artists can record.
Best always,
Kevin Goins - KevGo
Kev,
I'm presently going through all of my tapes now. I'll have to hear a sample of your artists first, then I'll see if I have anything that makes sense.
�� By TonyRussi (68.18.226.42) on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 01:57 pm:
DEke this is such an interesting tale,however, I do have an unrelated question:"People Gotta Be Free" that you did on Martha Reeves "Natural Resources"LP...is that Lois Reeves & Sandra Tilley on backgrounds?I think I hear Lois' voice.Thanks for all the great music!
Tony,
Bingo! On that cut, It was the girls . . the real Vandellas Lois and Sandra.
�� By cleoharvey (160.79.83.208) on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 05:06 pm:
Deke:
So, my friend what draft of your upcoming, exciting, insightful book are you on? I think some titles to be considered are:
I Can't Dancing to the Music You're Playing: A History of Motown behind the scenes.
Love Child: Saga of a Producer/Writer of Motown
Berry and Me (oops, that one is taken)
A Producer's Story
Motown, Queen Bee, and Me
or simply Deke Richards
Michael,
Thanks for all the titles. That's tough one right now . . . we'll see.
Question: who was the quickest study at Motown in terms of learning a new song? There are stories of artists having to be fed every line and taught how to sing and there were those who could do a song in two or three takes.
Peace,
Michael
I have to say it was Smokey.
Smokey, was easy. What a pleasant artist to work with. As good as he is (writer and producer), he always gave me full attention and respect. An easy dub in.
Gladys Knight would be my alternate choice. She was a dream as well.
By John Lester (217.40.231.105) on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 02:19 am: |
Deke
You are not the first person to nominate Gladys Knight...Clay is a big fan of Glady's too.
So put on your list to tell us about your work with Gladys!
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 02:40 am: |
Stephanie,
You're so sweet. Thanks for the nice things you always say. Brian Holland always loved that tune and the feeling of the track. I was honored then, as I am now.
Take Care,
Deke
By PhilH (203.220.96.117) on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 06:27 am: |
Hi Deke,
Too much! Looking forward to the next instalment(s) of the CC Caper! And "The Beginning Of The End Of Love" is my favourite of the unreleased tunes from The Supremes box, many thanks to HW for unearthing that gem!
cheers,
Phil
By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 11:15 am: |
Deke:
Thanks for the response. If there is a way to send the CD of my artists to you please send it to my email address (kevingoins@juno.com). My musical director Darryl Walker is a lifelong fan of your work, especially the Jackson 5 classic "One More Chance" from the ABC album.
Best regards,
Kevin Goins - KevGo
By TonyRussi (68.18.227.123) on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 11:46 am: |
Thanks for the answer Deke.As I go back through my record collection I'm sure I'll have more questions.Can't wait for the next Chris Clark installment.
By cleoharvey (160.79.83.208) on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 01:22 pm: |
Deke:
No, my friend, thank you. I cannot believe that you are gracing this forum and providing answers to questions that have been burning in us "diseased" Motown fans for years. I write myself and I feel that you have a literary talent that exceeds many of the books I have read that have been thrust upon the public about Motown. As you know, writing is difficult and I amazed at what seems to flow from you on the any particular subject. The reader not only gets a sense of what is going on but a feeling for you as the writer/participant. It is not an easy feat. So, I will not be satisfied until I read that there is a new book to appear on Motown from Deke Richards.
Michael
ps: You seem to be in agreement with many former Motowners about Smokey and of course, the amazing Gladys Knight.
By stephanie (207.94.145.102) on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 10:41 pm: |
Deke
With your literary talent Im shocked you didnt write a Motown book when everyone else did!!! I can tell yours would be more along the lines of a Weldon McDougal and not a tell all if you will.
Its more along the lines of the music and the history and sessions. Thanks for your talent.
Steph
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 11:55 pm: |
By Nish (170.224.224.102) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 12:15 am: |
Let the sweet drama of waiting for the next installment begin!!!! THANKS!!!
I really think your writing style (and your great character) is just BEGGING for you to get out the ol' typewriter and crank out a book! I can't reiterate how thankful I am to be getting an inner glimpse into these fascinating stories. And no smutty mudslinging involved, I love it. Thanks, Mr. Richards. :-)
With great respect,
NISH
By Edgar (200.46.12.128) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 07:43 am: |
Deke: simply wonderful! Now I want "CC Rides Again", yesterday! Is Harry Weinger reading this?
What's more, I love the feeling of "culture of peace" within your words.
By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 10:18 am: |
Damn, Deke! Great chapter - shows how gutsy Gordy really was back then. Onward to the next chapter!
Kevin Goins - KevGo
By John Perrone (152.163.188.68) on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 09:18 am: |
Deke....WONDERFUL! I'm hoping that the stories you've posted thus far are just the tip of the iceberg with much more to come. You've become an
important....rather...THE important source of
Motown history for all of us. Much gratitude, sir!
John
By Carl Dixon London (195.153.219.170) on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 01:57 pm: |
Now, I wonder what the connections are to Superman? This is thrilling. I have even started to bite my nails again. I will have to have a word with my old friend Jimmy Olsen or even Lois, to see if they know what is coming up next! It sure is a bizzaro world.
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 10:25 pm: |
I'm back, Soulkiddies.
I had some time off today , so I thought I'd write a while. Looks like we have another chapter here. Enjoy.
By stephanie (206.214.1.77) on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 02:59 am: |
Deke
Two things are going on here. Either you have a ghostwriter in your home or you were an A student in English..now which is the truth? Has anyone ever suggested that you be a writer AND a musician? I have never in my life been so compelled by any musicians writing style such as
yours....man I went to school for Journalism and I cant write as well as you. You and Whithall ought to get together and do a Motown book like the other folks.....amazing truly amazing...
Steph
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 01:23 pm: |
I was just getting ready to walk out the door and saw this message. This is a fairly easy one so I'm going to write right back.
Steph,
There you go again. You almost make me blush like a kid with your compliments. One thing I'll tell you about me, I'm cursed. All of my life, I've always tried to do better. You want to know why I never wrote a book before? First, there were too many other books out there. The second reason, and this might shock you, I didn't feel worthy. You see I never considered myself a great songwriter. I always wished I was a Burt Bacharach or Hal David, Barry Mann or Cynthia Weil or ,Carole King, etc,. etc,. etc. "Up On The Roof", "Save The Last Dance For Me", "You Made Me Feel Like A Natural Woman", "Bridge Over Troubled Water", "The Look Of Love", "On Broadway", etc. Now THESE were songs, great songs. After being at Motown a while, I started to study Berry, Smokey, Norman and Eddie Holland. These writers added some more great songs to my list.
It's taken me a long, long time to accept what I've done, and live with it. I have finally decided, I was a part of musical history; not a big part, but none the less, I did contribute something. I started 'bubble gum' (well, at least that's what I told a writer for Time Magazine many years ago when I was interviewed). It's kind of funny. I'll tell you how that really happened. During the interview, I told him the story of the first song I wrote. It was the story of a guy who's trying his best to make it with this girl. However, everytime he gets close to her, or they get ready to kiss, she would blow a big bubble in his face. She was a chronic gum chewer. You got it. It was called "Bubble Gum" So he took this and was half putting words in my mouth saying, " . . so this is what you would call this new sound you've created of half white, half black, soul-pop . . . Bubble Gum?" Well, I guess it's like naming your first born. I must have said, " OK:" or "Why not?, that's a good name for the kid." I don't remember how he finally wrote the article, but the term, has been used ever since.
I got off the track....
I really have to thank writers like R.Dean Taylor and Pam Sawyer for this curse I've lived with all these years. Believe me it's been hell just wanting, and trying to become a better writer and lyricist. Someday, maybe I will be the writer I want to be. In the meantime, you'll just have to watch me grow.
My very best to you,
Deke
By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 02:23 pm: |
Deke:
Come on, my friend - you of all people! Your songwriting and production work is admired by so many of us both in and out of the business! It's alright to say you're still growing but hell, give yourself some credit, my friend! When I told one of the artists I manage that I've been emailing you & you were part of "The Corporation", he said "Don't tell me you know the dude who wrote 'One More Chance' & 'I Found That Girl' for the Jackson 5! Man, those songs were the best!!!"
Like I said before, keep on keepin' on my friend!
Kevin Goins - KevGo
By cleoharvey (160.79.83.208) on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 02:27 pm: |
Deke:
I think we have seen your growth on this forum my friend. It is amazing that you that you still want to be a better writer when you have been part of songs that are considered "classics," it makes me admire you even more. I hope you feel the tremendous excitement you are creating by being on this forum. And beyond that, I hope it inspires you to the greater things that you desire.
Your seeming humility amidst greatness reminds me of something that happened with Mary Wilson some years ago. I was with her and several other people at the home of a friend of mine on the Upper West Side of New York. She was regaling us with her beauty, humor, and general "down to earthness." At one point, Queen Bee came up and Mary fiercely defended her and berated the people in the room who said anything untoward about her. Everyone in the room was surprised because it was not the image of the rancor that supposedly existed between them. In the conversation there was reference to Diana's fame and Mary said, (paraphrased) "There are so many things I want to do. I don't feel like I have accomplished or done anything." At this point I became very upset and said, "Mary, please do not say that. You have accomplished more than you know. When I was an overweight, dysfunctional, young, black kid who felt out of place in the world, I would watch you three ladies and feel beautiful and that the world was an okay place. It was not just Diana but the three of you who created the image that stands until this day. Three black women cannot put on gowns without being referred to as "Supremes-like." They do not say "Diana like." I can deal with the mind fuck that Diane has over other Black women, but not you!" I had tears in my eyes and rather than be angry, she hugged me for what I said to her. I loved her even more after that moment.
So, Mr. Deke Richards you are a great writer/producer and the world will know when that book of yours.
By the way I will be at the 10:30 pm show of La Wilson at BB King's this evening. I support my inspirations no matter what form they may take.
Peace, my friend,
Michael
By Scratcher (65.134.147.230) on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 02:54 pm: |
Deke, you detailed very well how the Clan worked but how did the Corporation (Deke Richards, Freddie Perren, Fonce Mizell & Berry Gordy) write and produced?
Collaborating with three others might be OK at first but I imagine it can be a drag after awhile, particularly when the grouping didn't happen naturally but was orchestrated. I hear what you're conveying...you would have felt better about those songs if you had been the sole writer or producer.
Not to mention the writers' individual percentages. People assume when they see four names credited as songwriters that all four receive the same royalty, which is often not the case. On a very popular Motown song (not one by Clan or Corporation), that has four or five names credited, one of the writer's share is only one percent.
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 03:44 pm: |
Scratcher,
You are gonna have to be really patient on this one. There is a LOT to tell, I don't want to start giving out pits and pieces like crumbs of bread. I haven't wrote a word of this yet. I have to find a time when I will be able to have 3-4 days of peace and no phones and I will write it all at one time. Then I have to break off what I can share and what I will save for the book. I know it's a drag Scratch, but please understand. Just one Corporation or J5 answer "here", will open a 'Pandoras Box' "there" and make you want to know more, etc. You'll have to trust me here. All I can tell you now is . . .It's the best story of all.
Deke
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 03:52 pm: |
To Kev and Mike,
It's just that I haven't written a word in 12 years until you got me up on this Forum. I didn't know what I was going to say to you. However, I have found that writing is like riding a bike (uh, another example comes to mind as well), and you just get back up and ride. It's just taking me a while to get fluid, plus I'm the slowist typist in the world.
It's friends like you that make me know I could write another hit in a 'hot minute'. You never know, if I hear too much junk on the radio, I just might do that.
Thanks for your kind support,
I'll be back,
Deke
By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 05:33 pm: |
Deke:
"...if I hear too much junk on the radio, I just might do that..."
PLEASE DO!!!
Deke, music nowadays needs that shot in the arm and a kick in the behind - in other words HOOKS! MELODY! HARMONIES! A GREAT STORY! A BEGINNING A MIDDLE & END! As our dear Mr. Clay McMurray would say, you could teach these PUPS out there about REAL songwriting and producing!
I'll be meeting with my artists for the label I'm putting together. I'll have a CD-R ready for you pronto. Let's work together.
Kevin Goins - KevGo
By stephanie (205.187.255.89) on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 09:47 pm: |
Deke,
I know where you are coming from. Someone like me on this board idolizes you where as you may compare yourself to HDH and think Motown fans may know me but Im not a household word like Smokey Robinson or Berry Gordy. Believe me amongst songwriters and musicians and Motown fans you are WELL known. I remember all of the Motown products I liked the most had the name Deke Richards next to them!!!!
I wish there was some way we could change the music industry and make it good again if you will.
I myself feel like I have not accomplished as much as I would like to but I have grown comfortable with that and know that I have time God willing. You are very humble and that tells a lot about you. If you had never done anything else other than Love Child you would go down in history.
You truly have a gift. Now Im going to stop feeding your ego.
Steph
By Nish (170.224.224.134) on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 10:53 pm: |
Mr. Richards,
Your latest installment is just fantastic, Mr. Richards. After reading Contracts cases all day, this is a treat. To add to all the superlatives being thrown your way, I think your modesty might be from a myopic view. It's really hard to think of yourself as a "SUPERB" writer, I would imagine, because you hear what's going on around you - many other talented writers. But I think you belong in that category, and thank God for the music you have written for us.
I look at it like this... you were a central part of the team that revived the most visible Motown act at a very critical time in the company's history. That's a FEAT. You helped introduce the world to THEEE most important pop figure of the last twenty years. Your imprint on the pop world is quite significant. THANKS.
And most certainly, we need some Deke Richards product on the market. That would be great.
By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 11:05 pm: |
Deke,
Can you please e-mail me at Ralph@soulfuldetroit.com. I have something to forward to you.
Thanks,
Ralph
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 11:14 pm: |
OK Gang. Its time for me to go back in the cellar and write a little before hy head explodes. You are all too much! I know what it is . . . you're all after one of my gold records when I die. (smile)
Gotta get back to CC, before she comes looking for me.
Easy,
Deke
By P.J. (12.227.39.40) on Saturday, February 08, 2003 - 09:20 am: |
Deke,
What a lead in!!! Imagine that!!!.................
"CC Rides Again...............................
This Time......................................
Looking For Deke"
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Saturday, February 08, 2003 - 05:10 pm: |
Hi Soulkiddies. It's time for another chapter of . .
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Saturday, February 08, 2003 - 05:14 pm: |
Oh-Oh
For those who are counting, That should have been Episode IV
I'm losing it...
DR
By John Lester (217.40.198.101) on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 03:43 am: |
So Deke...in that picture of CC in the hut, she is on the right and you on the left! Aha.
....you have a horse shot on the front and the elephant's, err, Betsy's behind on the back!!
By DanMan869 (4.60.68.161) on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 12:34 pm: |
Actually John, CC is riding a donkey/burro/ass *g* on the front cover of CC Rides Again. And here, for the seven or eight years I've owned the LP, I thought that the pic of Chris riding the elephant on the back was simply the combination of CC standing/sitting (on, say, a bench) and looking backwards and then a picture of an elephant's huge posterior was superimposed in front of her!
Deke, like everyone else, I must profusely thank you for sharing these terrific experiences with us. In addition to your extensive music background, you've got a tremendous writing talent that needs to be discovered by the world. I hope that one day you will publish a book that details your experiences at Motown and beyond!
And now... on to the next episode! Hi-ho Silver! Awaaaaaaaaay! *and the elephant slowly schlumps off*
By Andy (205.188.209.38) on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 04:57 pm: |
Deke,
Where do I begin? I rarely post on the board. Mostly, I read and keep up to date, but I just had to respond to your incredible posts. Thank you for sharing these inspirational stories. Whatever you do, DON'T STOP! They are too good, informative, educational, and addictive. From Love Child to CC Rides Again, I just can't get enough.
I also wanted to thank you for, and share a story about "The Beginning of The End of Love." While we were working on the Supremes box set, it was one song Harry Weinger and I agreed needed to be included, it's such a strong song. I had a tape of it for many years, but finding it in the vault was a challenge, the only listing was for The Beginning of The End, which is another Supremes song with the shortened title (written by Margaret Johnson). We found it and I was thrilled, but then after the box came out our friend John Lester pointed out that my old tape has a better mix! Shades of the Love Child mixes all over again. LOL. One day I hope we can get that killer mix out there.
When you get the to appropriate point in the story, please share with us the story behind "If You Let Me" (I understand you Produced this incredible unreleased Supremes track led by Mary Wilson, a personal favorite. I believe it was recorded circa 71-72). Also, how did it come about that you remixed The Supremes Rodgers And Hart collection in 1986?
Thank you for bringing so much inspiration then and now. Your work inspired all of us then, and now, both you and Clay are inspiring us all over again. I can't say it loud enough or proud enough, thank you.
Andy Skurow
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 07:20 pm: |
Hi Soulkiddies. It's a double-hitter this weekend . . . Enjoy.
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 08:27 pm: |
By dvdmike (12.84.7.195) on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 08:56 pm: |
Deke, I saw on the back cover that the album was engineered by Mickey Crofford, who worked out of RCA. Was that where the LP was recorded?
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 09:04 pm: |
dvdmike,
RIGHT YOU ARE! (All the live tracks that is.) "Can I See You In The Morning" and "How About You" were cut in Detroit at Hitsville.
Deke
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 09:23 pm: |
Boy, what would we do without a spelling checker? Now, if I could only learn to use it. Episode V is a dilly.
I was just beginning to think I was getting better on the keyboard. Oh well . . .
By John Lester (217.40.231.28) on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 12:05 am: |
Incredible Deke, just incredible!
By P.J. (12.227.39.40) on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 12:17 am: |
Deke,
"The White Boy, The White Girl, The White Label" has been a fascinating read (but then again which of your wonderful remembrances has not been!) Thank you for clearing up so much for us concerning 'CC Rides Again', the photos and the stories behind them.
However, there is one point that you have not yet mentioned.... In Episode II, 'A Job For Superman', you highlight that Berry (Gordy) agreed not to put 'a division of Motown' on the label or jacket. The regular issue of 'CC Rides Again' is as described, but the white label promo issue record label clearly reads on both sides WS-801DJ A Trademark of Motown Record Corp. @1969.
Will the next episode explain this discrepancy on someone's(?) part? That someone was probably not Berry, but who authorized it? Were there any repercussions? Does this have anything to do with the reason that there are no other releases on Weed?
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 11:02 am: |
PJ,
You're a sharp one.
I almost forgot about the Promos. It was simply a screwup that I caught just before the final LP was pressed and sent out. I was upset, believe me.
Deke
By P.J. (12.227.39.40) on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 01:11 pm: |
Deke,
Just a few alternate possibilities for the title of your book, all culled from this thread. I believe that you've planted the clues hoping someone would see them and mention them.
"Midnight At Motown" - Intriguing & Mysterious; association with the 24/7 atmosphere at Hitsville in its heyday, its absence from Detroit once California-bound, and Motown UMG's resurgence via the cd re-issue market and web sites such as Soulful Detroit. Com
"The New Boy In Town..... Motown" or simply "The New Boy In (Mo)Town- nostalgic play on words reminiscent of a non-Motown hit (The Eagles) and of another published Motown tome; The "New Boy" in the title might be interpreted to mean you (Deke), Berry , or Motown.
"Black Magic"- borrows from Martha Reeves and the Vandellas' fabulous swansong and draws the reader in to the wonderful work done by you and others at a company(Motown) that was at the forefront of integration in America and other parts of the world. I can almost envision a cover depicting you surrounded by/interacting with some of the artists (black, white and other) with whom you have worked at Motown.
Kind sir, Please keep the memories coming but allow yourself ample time to work on the book.
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 02:26 pm: |
PJ,
You are definately good. You caught or should I say picked up on 2 of my working titles.
We'll see . . .
DR
By P.J. (12.227.39.40) on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 03:19 pm: |
Was/Is another "The Politics of Dancing"?
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 04:19 pm: |
PJ,
Yes, but I thought it might be a little too 'distant sounding'.
DR
By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 05:48 pm: |
Deke:
What a lesson on how to deal with artists! Your Chris Clark posting should be mandatory reading for all music managers (especially those handling "difficult" artists!).
Kevin Goins - KevGo
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 02:41 pm: |
THE FINAL CHAPTER . . .
Coming this Friday, Valentines Day
The conclusion of
By stephanie (207.221.193.245) on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 09:54 pm: |
Yeah I love you too Deke..LOL I dont mind waiting until Valentine's Day. I get the strangest feeling you enjoy all of this writing.
Some producers wouldnt care to say all of this but I forgot you are hands on!!!!
Dont forget when you are finished with CC Rides Again then you have to tell us the Beginning of the End of Love story on the Supremes Box Set..
Stephanie
By cleoharvey (160.79.83.208) on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 10:26 am: |
Deke:
I love the fact that you talk in "book terms." I will be the first at Barnes & Noble when it is published.
Michael
By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 11:01 am: |
Deke:
Can't wait for the final chapter AND your book!
Kevin Goins - KevGo
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 12:54 pm: |
Hi Soulkiddies and Happy Valentine's Day to all the Ladies in the house.
It's time for the FINAL CHAPTER. Here is the conclusion of. . .
By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 01:22 pm: |
Ahhh Deke:
A wonderful trilogy...Looks like the "corporate types" that spoiled this industry had a much earlier start!
Thank you for sharing this with us.
Kevin Goins - KevGo
(PS - I'm getting CD's pressed with my artists & their tunes - how do I get a copy to you? You may send me your address via my email kevingoins@juno.com)
By TonyRussi (68.18.227.143) on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 02:25 pm: |
Oh Deke,lordy man I know you were only 25 and how we felt at that age that good & right will conquer.Those dudes showed you how the strings were pulled by Corporate types not artistic types.You're the one with God-given talent.Think about that book cause you are a good writer in more ways then one.Thank you.
By dvdmike (12.84.41.138) on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 10:00 pm: |
Deke, did you produce the J5 at DCP? I thought they cut at The Sound Factory.
By stephanie (199.183.163.237) on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 11:58 pm: |
This goes to show you were ahead of your time Deke with the Weed concept and they just came and stole your idea with the Rare Earth label. You stuck to your principles and did the right thing.
I know two people who have the CC rides again album they found it in a collectors store so there are more copies out there than what you may think..
Stephanie
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Saturday, February 15, 2003 - 12:17 am: |
dvdmike,
I did the tracks at the Sound Factory and then the vocals at DCP.
Deke
By Clay (66.73.217.201) on Saturday, February 15, 2003 - 08:16 am: |
What's up Deke?
Just thought I'd say Hello and compliment you on your "Tales From The Inside"LOL. I hope all is going well with you,it's been a few years since we've seen each other but it's good to have you aboard the forum for some factual content LOL. Do you still play? Well good buddy stay strong in health,mind and spirit. Peace
By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Saturday, February 15, 2003 - 09:38 am: |
Deke,
Yeah pal, looks like you got caught in the crossfire. I think it should be noted though that the Rare Earth label was in it's formative stage as early as 1968 when Berry brought in Harry Balk to get it up and running. Harry was doing a lot of the work for this label at Tera Shirma. I honestly don't think you got out manuevered by some Corporate types. Phil Jones was a decent, hard working guy. Like you said, you were young and cocky and caught a case of bad timing. what I am wondering is if Berry was so hot on Chris, why didn't he try and counsel you on this bad decision? After all you did a ton of work on the album that represented quite an investment by the company. I don't understand why it was allowed to fold. Oh well Deke, we all have our tales of woe partner, but we're still around to talk about them. Thanks again for the great story. you're an ace pal.
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Saturday, February 15, 2003 - 09:43 am: |
Clay,
Hey Dog! Big Bad Clay! What 'cha up to man? 'Ol Ike T. nearly did me in, but I'm still kickin'. Hung out late with my Valentine last night. Just wanted to say a quick 'ditto' hi to you. It's early here now and my brains aren't straight yet. I need an I.V. of caffeine then I'll drop you a line on your thread later.
Easy,
Deke
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Saturday, February 15, 2003 - 10:18 am: |
Ralph,
Thanks for the info. I didn't mean to give the impression I 'hated' those guys for how it went down. It was just a 'white collar-blue collar thing'. They just never mentioned in that meeting they were prepping for that long. Well, like I said a couple of times, I thought Berry was enjoying the exchange. You know, when you have hits, money and power, what's left? Games? I was probably given just enough rope, etc. However, I just loved that guy, no matter what he did. You're right, I survived, but Chris? Why was she sacrificed? I guess I would have understood if BG came back to rescue her from this when it was over. I don't know. Maybe he thought, 'what if Weed DOES make it?' Maybe it was her call. Maybe she was tired or had enough. Well, at least CC came back and ended up with 'Lady Sings', I ended up with the J5, and BG ended up with the results from both. When I think about it, we all came out. It was just a long and winding road.
Take Care,
Deke
By Aljaydu/Creole (68.18.98.97) on Saturday, February 15, 2003 - 02:11 pm: |
Hello there, Deke,
Glad to meet you. I've read your posts and let me tell you...you are quite the man!!!! Back in the good old days, I was more than just a guy that bought the music, I read the album covers from front to back. I know a lot about your productions. The stories that you brought to this thread really makes ME feel good because now, I've come full circle. Being familar with your work and NOW reading about what you've personally accomplished in this music business...there are no words!!! I just wanted to thank you.
I noticed that you posted on Levi Stubbs thread. Levi is my all time favorite singer and the Four Tops...well, they're my all-time favorite group. Would you please share with us your work with the Tops? From what I understand, the Tops were the easiest people to work with and most of the time, recording them was more about getting the music right as opposed to getting the vocals right.
Please, share with us your fondest memories of working with the T O P S .
Tahnk You,
Alan Duhe'
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Saturday, February 15, 2003 - 03:20 pm: |
Clay,
So what's the 'Paul Bunyon' of Motown up to these days? God, I've give anything for one good whiff of 'The Pit' right now. It's too healthy here, up North in WA. I ran into so much bureaucracy in the business after I left Motown. I really got discouraged. The record companies weren't too bad until they had me do about 6 themes for different films for soundtracks. I gave them what they wanted, and they still couldn't make up their minds. What in the world happened to the good 'ol days when someone (A&R) heard something they liked and said, "Let's put it out!". I still love to write. I just don't like to play Football at the same time. I'm slowly getting in the mood to raise hell again. The more crap I hear on the radio, the madder I get.
My chops are a tad rusty. I tore down my studio I built in LA just before I moved up here. Everything went into storage. Some of the gear is outdated, so I've been dumping a little on eBay. Computer music is OK and has it's place. I don't mind it for demos, but I still love a live band. That's the only way to go for me . . . personality. I miss the guys, and of course JJ and Robert White. One of a kinds, they were and always will be.
There are a few others I need to say hi to as well that were 'there' as well, and saw the magic. I have to catch up with a lot of threads
I gotta jump now. Tell you what . . . this time, I'll post this first letter on both our threads just in case. Then, we can just post on each others thread and keep each other alive, for a minute anyway. Best to you and your family.
Easy, Big Fella . . .
Deke
By Clay (66.73.179.16) on Sunday, February 16, 2003 - 08:17 am: |
Deke
Go to my thread I left you a message. Man, It ain't over until it's over. I think the first new camp to capture the NEW Motown sound could be a charm. I feel like nothing gets rusty but nails and nothing gets old but clothes LOL. Peace
By PhilH (203.221.54.228) on Sunday, February 16, 2003 - 09:48 am: |
Deke,
What can I say? THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for taking up my CC suggestion - now all I have to do is find a copy of the album for myself, LOL! (Got any lying around your garage?) Can I make another suggestion for your list of topics? (But answer some of the other ones first!) Diana's "Doobedood'nDoobee". I hope you won't mind if I say that (putting this as diplomatically as I can) it's not amongst my favourites of your compositions, but I am curious as to how the song (particularly the title - I've never been able to say it!) came about.
Cheers,
Phil
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Sunday, February 16, 2003 - 11:49 am: |
Phil,
That's a easy one and a quickie. I had recorded 'Doobee' and 'I'm Still Waiting' for the 'Everything Is Everything LP. I went over to play them for Berry. He didn't like 'I'm Still Waiting' , but he DID like 'Doobee'. The 'Doobee' was simply supposed to be this 'ditty' you (Diana) would sing because you're happy. However, that was never going to be the title . I might have put 'Doobee' on the session notes or my chart when I recorded the track. The actual title was going to be "I Just Started Living". Berry is the one who loved the 'Doobee' part so much, he thought it would be a great name for the title. So, I remember that day I sat there as he played it over and over spelling the whole ditty out. He made up his mind, and that's what he wanted me to call it. "OK, BG if you feel that strong about it", I said. To this day, I think it's still the longest one word song title.
Deke
PS. As far a a copy of the "CC Rides Again" LP goes, it's sad. I had a complete box of factory sealed LP's (25 or 50) that was destroyed in a fire along with many of my other sealed LP's and session tapes. All I have left is 2 sealed cut-out copies for myself I found some years ago. I do have one extra cut-out copy I was going to auction on eBay. (The pics I posted are from that copy. As you ac see it is fairly clean). It's not sealed, but the vinal is in nice shape and has only been played a few times.
By stephanie (205.186.129.56) on Sunday, February 16, 2003 - 04:19 pm: |
Man
Doobedoobe was my favorite song on the Everything is Everything album!!!!
Listen to the music..
In my soul..
I just started living the day you started giving your love to me...
Great Vocal by Diana by the way ..
Thanks Deke
Stephanie
By cleoharvey (65.144.208.45) on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 08:50 pm: |
Deke:
I happened to be doing some work on the computer and put on some lps in the background (a lot times I prefer lps because of the warmer sound). All of a sudden I heard a song and stopped what I was doing to listen (a good sign that it is great song). The song was We Need You from the Diana Ross Touch Me In the Morning album. Imagine my shock when I looked at the back of the album and realized that you had produced and written the song! It is strange, that album is such mishmash of producers as though it was put together to back up Touch Me In the Morning. Your song and Michael Randall's songs are wonderful. You guys seemed to innately understand Diana's strenths and weaknesses.
I keep finding gems that you were involved with as I go through my old albums. Makes my already incredible respect for you grow even more. Here's hopiing that you go back into the studio and very soon. Maybe you and Clay McMurray can throw some tunes Mary Wilson's way now that she is recording in Detroit. I can dream can't I.
Michael
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 05:13 pm: |
Thanks Michael,
"We Need You" was always a favorite of mine. I always tried so hard to write as good as I could for Diana. She was special to me. I knew what she was going through with her family, and personal life, etc. I didn't know if the US would like it, but I thought for sure they would pick 'We Need You' up in the UK and I would have another 'I'm Still Waiting'. Oh, well . . . (The last track I did for her was a killer, but she never cut it.) That was just another crumbled cookie.
Since you like this record so much, send me your email and I'll send you back a little surprise. However, you must promise me to keep it to yourself.
Deke
By John Lester (217.40.192.70) on Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 05:22 pm: |
Deke
You can tell us..we won't breathe a word!!
By Mark k (213.122.102.155) on Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 05:38 pm: |
Deke
Just to say how much i've enjoyed your wonderful
Motown stories>please please keep them coming!
I recently dug out my copy of Diana's Everything is Everything album and track 2 on the UK album is a song titled 'Aint no sad song' credited to The Bear, H.Davies and C.Ross the song is very, very similar musically to another song entitled 'Too many cooks (spoil the soup) by 100 Proof (Aged in Soul) recorded on Hot Wax H-D-H label.
I wondered if you had heard this song and was aware of the similarity between both songs?
Also who was The Bear? in the song credit >B.G.!!
and was C. Ross> Chico Ross Diana's brother?
Just for the record 'I'm still waiting' is one of my top 5 Diana Ross songs and most of the orginal songs on the 'E.I.E.' album stand up today 'How about you' and 'Baby its love'especially.
Cheers
Mark k
By cleoharvey (65.144.204.187) on Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 05:44 pm: |
Deke:
You are absolutely welcome! It is a great song as are so many other things you have been involved with that people may not know about (especially the work on Martha Reeves & Vandellas' Black Magic album)
You email address was not visible to me so any surprise (and oh, how I love and need surprises) should be sent to me at mleslie@meetingsinmedicine.com (and of course, it will go futher than myself). This is the temp job that I work at while I wait for the next thing to happen in this god-forsaken business. It has ben extremely slow in the last 18 months and I need to survive. As you know, being in this business is like having a disease, you simply have to and need to do it. And so, you will do anything to remain a part of it and keep your head above water. The late Gwen Guthrie sang the performer's National Anthem when she sang "Ain't Nothing Goin On But The Rent." LOL!!
All the best to you my friend.
Michael
By stephanie (205.187.255.100) on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 02:12 pm: |
Come Back Deke!!! I didnt know you wrote We Need You. Im not saying this to butter you up Deke but that IS my favorite song on the Touch Me in the Morning album. As a matter of fact I was singing it to a friend of mine last week...
In Our Dreams when you are here..
When you awake we dissapear.....
Oh what memories of those old vinyl albums.
Stephanie
thank god for Deke and the Funk Brothers and the Pit and Berry Gordy and Motown..
By TonyRussi (68.18.225.134) on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 03:45 pm: |
Hey Deke it would be so GREAT if you can come to Soulfuldetroit event in May.I know we would all be honored to meet you.
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 11:25 am: |
For Mark k:
"The Bear" is in fact the big cheese, BG. C. Ross is Chico. I'm pretty sure that's where they were going....100 Proof. For The Record: Hal produced the first 4 cuts of Side A, and I did the rest of the 'Everything Is Everything' LP.
Thanks for getting in touch,
Deke
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 12:11 pm: |
There you go again Steph! Thank you, for you.
I've been down for the past week or so. I wish I could say it was the 'Love Bug', but nay...it's the 'flu bug'. It just won't let me go. Got an email address? Send it to posterpalace@attbi.com.
Deke
By Deke (12.229.234.28) on Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 12:19 pm: |
For Tony:
Thanks for the invitation. Unfortunately, I already have some long made plans for May. However, let me have all the info for future SDC events.
Thanks,
Deke
By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 02:12 pm: |
Deke - I guess the flu bug has just about made it's rounds on Soulful Detroit. Get well soon.
By stephanie (64.63.221.117) on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 02:27 pm: |
Where is Deke? I hope he doesnt think we have forgotten him. I have been waiting to see him but he has not been around is he ok?
Stephanie
By Edgar (200.46.135.159) on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 03:01 pm: |
Yes, we are waiting for The Corporation chapter.
By Mike Sku (64.9.11.62) on Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 12:45 pm: |
Deke, Thanks for all this great info. I am lucky to have a lot of Chris Clark's stuff, and I was always curious about her tenure at Motown. I was also glad to see that she did get involved in the Motorcity revival with Ian Levine back in the late 80s/early 90s. I wonder....what do you know about an artist named P.J. that recorded a song called "TLC"? I have it on a 45, but I have never seen it on any CD (and doubt I ever will, sad to say)
By John Lester (81.132.6.12) on Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 03:18 pm: |
Mike
it will be on cd..just give it time...it's very popular in the UK
By Davie Gordon (193.122.21.42) on Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 03:44 pm: |
Mike,
P.J. was Patti Jerome, the wife of Harry Balk.
Sad to say she died about a year ago.
Key in "P J" in the search forum box - that
should lead to you to previous discussions
about the lady.
By Michael/Cleoharvey (160.79.83.208) on Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 05:32 pm: |
Deke:
Hello, hope all is well with you!
By Keith (148.167.126.130) on Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 12:35 pm: |
Mr. Richards,
Thank you for answering the questions I've always had about the "C.C. Rides Again" LP. I always wondered why that motto, why only one LP release on that label, why those strange pics.
I kept my eye out for the record for about 10 years before I found a copy at a record show here in Phoenix, AZ. I was just flipping through a box of soul records and there it was. I think I paid $8 for it, so I quietly went up and paid the vendor. I didn't even tell him what a rare find he had and that I would have paid much more for it. I've never seen one since, so I think it IS quite rare.
Anyway, thanks for answering my questions. I DO wish you had been given the opportunity to work with Chris again with some original tunes.
Keith Feldt
By Kegtapper (63.208.223.51) on Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 04:24 pm: |
Keith- could I ask for a scan with the label with songs listed? the 'slicks' have no info?
Evan