Smooth Jazz anyone????

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Top of pageBottom of page   By Aljaydu (68.18.115.2) on Saturday, March 01, 2003 - 11:52 pm:

I just found this great Internet radio...
If you like Smooth Jazz, check it out.

http://www.smoothjazz.com/

Relaxing...

Top of pageBottom of page   By Eli (151.197.37.92) on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 11:52 am:

Blecccchhh!!!!!! Arrrrrgggghhhhh!!!!@#$%^&*()_+
Please forgive my opinion here but to me "Smooth Jazz" is in NO way relatetd to Jazz as I have come to know it.
It is a saccharine, watered down genre one step up from elevator music and in some cases it is elevator music.
Jazz to me was Bird, Trane, Miles, Monk, Jamal, Lateef, Hancock, Cobham, not
G. Najee, Coz, Spyro Gyra and all of the endless sound alike and recorded alike sax clones from hell.
Here in Philly Luther and Mariah are played on smoth jazz 106, can you believe that!!

Just a thought, and only my opinion.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Aljaydu (68.18.112.12) on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 12:49 pm:

Eli, Eli, Eli...hold on, Man...
It's tough finding (what I call) a Pure Jazz Channel that plays the artists that you named: Bird, Trane, Miles, Monk, Jamal, Hancock, etc...
The more I listen to that crap that they play today, the more I appreciate what we had yesterday, know what I mean? So, yes, I can "stand" listen to that "jazz of today", shake my head, turn it off and say to muself..."this is how it's done" and put on Hampton. I'm still searching for a true "JAZZ" channel on the 'net.

Take Care...just don't take it too seriously..

Top of pageBottom of page   By RD (63.188.32.67) on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 12:53 pm:

Aljaydu, download Spinner Plus, it's like Realaudio only it has different genres of music you can choose and play continuously. Spinner Plus has all types of jazz to choose from.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Eli (151.197.37.92) on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 01:19 pm:

I can dig it!! Its just that to "me" it is saccharine, although granted it appeals to many folks who accept that stuff a jazz.
And yes, most of todays music is pure crapola.
Where are the "ears" of the powers that be. They are tone deaf for sure , as are most of the consumers who buy that crap.
Ashanti winning thre Lady of soul award??
Please..spare me. What's wrong with picture???
Most "remixes" have musical elements that are enharmonically incorrect.

(Big Screeeeeaaaam!! with hands held to my ears while I grit my teeth)

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ritchie (62.254.0.9) on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 01:34 pm:

One of my favourite quotes (from playwright and Jazz-lover Alan Plater):

There are three kinds of Jazz -
"Hot", "Cool" and "What time does the tune start?"

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 02:38 pm:

Eli - I was about 16 when I started liking jazz by visiting my uncle. I would listen to it on the radio all the time. But then one day, I couldn't find it anywhere on the radio. The music had changed, and I no longer got that satisfaction. My only probably is I wasn't buying jazz, so I couldn't fall back on my LP's. I never really learned how to describe it, or the artist who performed it. I remember someone saying "contemporary jazz." But I knew it wasn't what I wanted to hear. I believe the jazz that I wanted was by those artist you named above.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Aljaydu (68.18.97.131) on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 03:10 pm:

RD, I have Spinner. It's great.
The problem with today's jazz is the same problem that lies with all other music formats...bottom dollar. If a certain music style doesn't sell anymore, someone is going to go to something else and besides, everybody knows that music "changes" every 10 years or so. The Jazz that we so love and cherish from yeaterday won't be played on the radio any more (at least , not in hugh chunks...a little here and a little there). It's the nature of the music business. There are a few "smooth" jazz (or contemporary Jazz) artist that sound real good and are playing "real" instruments. I don't knock them. I have more respect for this "smooth Jazz" community of artists than I have for some of these so-called R&B, Pop, Country, Rock, etc., "singers" that these record companies are mass producing.

Smooth Jazz...ain't nothing wrong with it.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Sue (64.12.97.7) on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 03:26 pm:

Smooth jazz -- bleeeeeeeech!

Top of pageBottom of page   By Sue (64.12.97.7) on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 03:27 pm:

I'm listening to Wes Montgomery right now, then I'll go on to Coltrane. Nothing smooth or lite about it, no Kenny G in sight ...

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jim G (152.163.188.68) on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 04:02 pm:

I think it is called "Smooth Jazz" only because it is instrumental.
Because Jazz is a language, not a set method of interpretation or creation, you can get a million definitions of what it is.
Many of the giants eschewed the term "Jazz". Ellington called his music "Negro Music", not jazz.
Fats Waller never fell into the semantics trap. He said only, "If you got to ask, you'll never know. You have to feel it here (your heart) and make it come out here (your hands)."
The irritating bit of smooth jazz to me is this: Why not call it smooth something else?
I don't want children growing up associating one of America's great cultural contributions with Kenny G. I'm sorry, but the man is a moron. In a recent interview he said that Charlier Parker was called "Bird" because he had a reed squeak problem that affected his sound. Ridiculous!
Miles pissed off countless jazz fans when he changed direction in the late 60s, fusing pop/rock/jazz. But Miles was a genius who didn't work to a formula--he had enough creative horsepower to pull it off (in my opinion).

Art imitates life, so if "Smooth XXXX" is popular it is a reflection of our present culture. Trane, Monk, Bird, et al, get precious little acknowledgement as it is. When someone tells me they 'love jazz', I mentally cringe as I ask them who, specifically, they listen to.

Top of pageBottom of page   By BankHouseDave (195.93.50.9) on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 05:24 pm:

When we started playing 'jazz' in the sixties, we were influenced by Monk, Trane, Shepp, Cecil Taylor, Albert Ayler and Cannonball.

Our audience thought we were going to play Glenn Miller.

Top of pageBottom of page   By mhc (172.152.18.245) on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 09:16 pm:

We're not living through a Golden Age of Jazz right now, that's true, but there are some really good young artists out there (some that I like anyway), and some older ones still doing it. I like this group from New York called "Sex Mob", with Steve Bernstein and Kenny Wolleson, Don Byron is great, Bill Frisell likewise, James Carter (I loved his record called "Chasing the Gypsy"), Medeski Martin and Wood are cool.. A few years ago I saw Jim Hall recording a live album at the Village Vanguard; that was beautiful stuff. The summer before last I saw an amazing set at the Stockholm Jazz Festival by Wayne Shorter and a group of younger players: Brian Blade on drums, Danilo Perez on piano, and John Patitucci on acoustic bass; it was f#cking stellar. I don't think that the contemporary Jazz scene should be written off. As for Smooth Jazz, that's what they play on the Muzak in Hell (my .02).

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jim G (152.163.188.68) on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 09:54 pm:

I didn't intend to slight the current crop of musicians, mhc. And there are many fine players today.
James Carter is a jazz scholar. He's studied the older musicians and learned much from their music.
And MM&W are really creative. Danilo Perez & Don Byron are fine players (I remember Don when he played with the Klezmer Orchestra--he was amazing even then).
You obviously get around, I bet the Stockholm jazz fest was really good.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Greg C. (209.71.79.180) on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 10:15 pm:

The term "Smooth Jazz" is one of the worst things that was ever done to jazz. I'm from Detroit originally and I recall radio station WJZZ which was an excellent hybird of what jazz, traditional and contemporary was about. That radio station was on the money!I was crushed when it went under.

This "Smooth Jazz" crap format, which is formatted in just about every major city in NO way resembles what jazz is even supposed to be. These stations play artists like Mariah Carey, Luther Vandross, and Michael Jackson. This stuff isn't even jazz oriented! Meanwhile artists like Nancy Wilson, Billy Cobham,George Duke, Bobby Hutcherson, and Marlena Shaw who are jazz artists or jazz oriented get no airplay at all! This format of radio is the most blatant form of control of what you are allowed to hear.

I have turned them off and refuse to listen to or support this garbage and I do not listen. CD 101.9 FM in New York City where I live is terrible! I have never seen or heard such myopic, redundant, narrow, and abysmal programming. Oh for the days of WRVR!!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 10:52 pm:

Greg C - Is it really that bad? (LOL)

What gendre of music would you say Anita Baker sings?

Top of pageBottom of page   By Greg C. (209.71.79.175) on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 11:26 pm:

Yes it is!

Anita Baker is rare and a treasure. She's a rhythm and blues singer with strong jazzy overtones. Her music can be formatted for a R&B station or a Jazz station.

Speaking of Anita I saw her perform in Detroit last year and she still sounds wonderful! Wish she'd return to the studio and do something new. It's been eight years since her last studio release. It's "been so long..."

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit. (68.42.209.170) on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 11:30 pm:

I agree. I'm hoping she will record soon. It would be a relief to hear such a great vocalist.

Top of pageBottom of page   By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 06:55 pm:

Folks:
I've heard from some reliable sources that Anita Baker may be signing with Blue Note or Verve Records soon. Both labels are interested in recording her.
Ms. Baker might as well flip a coin....She'll do fine on either label.
Kevin Goins - KevGo

Top of pageBottom of page   By Kenny fan (63.88.160.101) on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 01:57 pm:

All people have different musicial tastes.Kenny G.or Kenny Gorlick has sales that any act would love to have. He has great following for his live shows and like I said before check out his sales numbers.Purests will never be happy with anything but the orginal, but the general buy public likes and buys Kenny G,

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jay (24.55.210.61) on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 02:59 pm:

I don't think I could ever buy a record just because it sells.

The strident soprano sax whine of Mr G is enough to make me run for cover no matter how many billions of records he sells.

The one most irritating part of Smooth Jazz is the playlist.
The damn playlists are the same for the last 10 years!!

If you have ever listened to satellite radio or satellite TV music stations, you will realize the that the content on the smooth jazz (across the whole country)is very controlled.
Only certain stuff is being played.
You and I the consumer are being shortchanged period!

Top of pageBottom of page   By JoeR (170.148.10.41) on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 04:24 pm:

Hello Aljaydu...

For artists like Coltrane, Armstrong and Miles, you may want to try:

http://www.wbgo.org

I listen to "smooth-jazz" at work (thanks for the link) but as Eli previous mentioned, it has been watered down. When my "Smooth-jazz" station appeared in NYC, artists like Miles, Marsalis and Hancock were played. Then over the years I started hearing HEATWAVE'S 'Always And Forever' and GLADYS KNIGHT & THE PIPS' 'Midnight Train To Georgia and I said "oh no, another station going commercial and R&B". Now I enjoy those songs but I wouldn't expect to find those songs played on a "smooth-JAZZ" station. It's like going into the fridge and drinking out of a container of milk expecting orange juice.

JoeR - http://mypages.netopia.com/channels

Top of pageBottom of page   By Aljaydu (68.18.100.127) on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 05:10 pm:

oe R., I just tuned in to WBGO and you've made my decade. The channel is great, perfect. The list of 88 jazz and blues recordings that one should have in their collection is right on the money...I'm seriously lacking...I'm heading to e-bay and a few other spots to see what I can purchase. I just purchased quite a few cd's and albums just last week...Coltrane, Monk and Parker.

Again, thank you for that link.

I was the one who started this thread. I guess, in a nutshell, this stuff that they call "jazz" today is watered down. The more I listen to it, the more I appreciate growing up in the 60's, relating to Mom and Dad's grooves from the 40's and 50's. My brother in law was the one who really got me stuck on jazz. His son, he just joined the Navy and he's in the U.S. Navy Band. His main man is Coltrane. Jordan's age? 18.
Don't you just love it???? Now, once again, I CAN put up with most of these watered down jazz projects as compared to these "cranked-out" "so-called" vocalists that these record companies are mass producing today. Totally different animals.

Again, thanks for the link !!

I will make a pledge !!!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By Greg C. (166.84.225.38) on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 05:27 pm:

I have to agree with Jay. The playlists for most smooth jazz stations, and there is one in just about every major city are controlled by Ennis Communications or Clear Channel Communications and it's the same contrived formula in every town! And you're so right, the playlist's are about 10 years old and they are so STALE! The public is being tremendously shortchanged.

As for Kenny G, please! That pap he plays sounds like mall music or something you push your cart around to in a supermarket. What about innovative artists like Pat Metheny, George Duke, Stanley Clarke, Roy Ayers, Lonnie Liston Smith, or Donald Byrd. No it doesn't have to be pure, but for goodness sake, give the public some VARIETY!

Top of pageBottom of page   By Lynn Bruce (65.60.202.214) on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 06:17 pm:

It could be my age group,but doesn't it seem that from about 1955 or so thru the middle 60s was the best years of the classics in cool jazz. It seems that roughly before the middle 50s it was big-band musicians trying their chops in combos and such. In the late 60s it seemed like, to be more popular( I.E.make enough money to support yourself), jazz started to be more fusionish and less cool sounding and more of a mixture of funk and jazz.
Im not saying nothing great was done before or after those years. It just seemed that us musicians always put those guys on a higher level.
The rest of us may have been working shows,or clubs and making a lot more bread, but all you had to say to somone was "I only play jazz" and they put you on a higher level,even though you might only play a week-end gig.

Of course once you heard them play,your opinion might change.

The late 50s and early 60s jazz was really happening in Detroit. A lot of after hours clubs were filled with musicians from commercial gigs sitting in to play what they couldn't play in their normal places.

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 08:07 pm:

Lynn - I don't think I've given away my age yet, but I know it was in the late 50's early 60's that I began to listen and like jazz. This was when I would babysit over to my uncle's house. That's all he had. So, when I go home, I would have to listen to it on the radio. I believe it was beginning in about '72 when I could not find it on the radio. So, I would go to the record shops, looking, but I didn't know who I was looking for. (LOL) I would experiment and purchase something hoping it was the sound of the jazz that I really liked. I finally gave up on trying to find that particular sound.

It's kind of funny. :o)

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 08:17 pm:

I'm sorry, that was about '70, when I couldn't find the jazz station.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jim G (152.163.188.68) on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 08:36 pm:

The 1950s were the Golden Age of Detroit jazz, no question.
Detroit produced fabulous musicians at an amazing rate, e.g., Barry Harris, Yusef Lateef, Kenny Burrell, Tommy Flanagan, Elvin and Thad Jones, Pepper Adams. Most of them migrated to NYC by the end of the decade. Detroit still did not have a Major record label which was a serious problem. There was a thriving club scene, however.
There was still much good jazz during the 60s and 70s. The Detroit jazz center, Ibo Cultural Center, Dummy George, Minor Key...I'm sure you can call many more, Lynn.
There are so few clubs today: Bert's Marketplace, Baker's, Sweet Georgia Brown's, but not too many more.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Greg C. (209.71.79.165) on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 09:37 pm:

I'm originally from Detroit and I recall WCHD-FM which became WJZZ-FM was the serious jazz station. You'd hear the classics and the current. I was really sad to hear it went under when I went home to Detroit one time for a visit. I'd love to get my hands on that library. Some classic and great stuff there...

Top of pageBottom of page   By StingBeeLee (68.43.129.202) on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 01:39 am:

I agree with Eli's opinion of smooth jazz. I wish I could get Sidney Bichet from his grave and take him to these studios and concerts where they play smooth jazz. He would get up and whup their behinds. Seriously, he would do it, he had the temperment and meaness to do so. Anyone who likes smooth jazz and the one note soprano/alto sax playing should listen to a real master, Bichet, play the instrument. If I'm over someones house, and they say they have some jazz, I'll ask "who" and if they bring out the smooth jazz I will leave. My sisters even knows not to play that junk around me.

Top of pageBottom of page   By kenny fan (63.88.160.101) on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 07:14 am:

The comments that were about smooth jazz sound like the comments people would have make about B. goodman ,Glen Miller, Harry james ,ect when miles davis,john coltrian and that group of of Jazz greats were comming up. Music changes, and the public views change with it.It is true in business,music, art, everything. Motown recoards went down as a force in the recoard business because they did not change with the times, After smooth jazz some other form of music will apear.Thats the way life goes.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jim G (12.47.224.13) on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 07:38 am:

Kenny...you're suggesting Smooth XXXX is a step in the evolution of jazz.
More an evolutionary backwater I'd say.
Miles and Coltrane worked in big bands in their younger days. Then, because of the fire within their spirits, they created something new, something that continues to survive and from which many people draw sustenance.
I suppose it depends on what one wants from jazz.
Smooth XXXX is easy, light, polite, nice background music.
Jazz is born of creative fire and passion and life experience. Maybe your man Kenny lacks these qualities.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Bob Olhsson (12.77.95.52) on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 08:45 am:

"Smooth Jazz" is quite literally designer background music that has nothing at all to do with jazz other than it could be considered improvisation if you stretch that word's meaning a bit.

The Windham Hill label started printing "file under jazz" on its LP jackets because they didn't want them getting lost in the easy listening category and people suddenly began buying the albums in a big way because they had pretty jackets you could allow a visitor to see without looking like you were a "square."

Top of pageBottom of page   By dvdmike (65.208.234.61) on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 08:50 am:

I was listening to some stuff the other evening that included Quincy Jones' "Birth Of A Band", Wes Montgomery's "Movin' Wes", Lou Rawls & Les McCann's "Stormy Monday", Milt Jackson's "Plenty, Plenty Soul" and the Nancy Wilson & Cannonball Adderly album.

Top of pageBottom of page   By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 11:54 am:

Folks:
To me, smooth jazz today is what my parents would've called easy listening years ago, which was a popular radio format.

The way smooth jazz radio is formatted (instrumental-instrumental-pop vocal-instrumental-instrumental-pop vocal, then back to the beginning), the type of instrumentals they play along with the "hits" smacks of the way radio formatted music by Ray Conniff, Percy Faith, Bert Kaempfert along with vocals by folks such as Jerry Vale & Al Martino.

Easy listening & smooth jazz are radio creations, not musical or artistic creations. I would rather be listening to DVDMike's record collection (plus Jimmy Smith's "The Cat" and Cal Tjader's "Soul Sauce")than to spend one minute listening to smooth jazz.

Kevin Goins - KevGo

Top of pageBottom of page   By kenny fan (68.40.52.152) on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 09:55 pm:

What people listen to are personal taste. Sales and air play are what drives the the music industry, The sales pay the bills. If any form of music is to thrive public buying the product is the only thing.
To kev go What you are telling the forum that that radio stations tell kenny g or any other smooth zazz artist what to play.The success of any artist is judged by the public and thier buying power! How did motown rise to a great power in the industry? by a few people loving the music, and then buying it. Berry Gordy put out a product that was marketed to every person and group that he could find. Their is no profit in a small nich CD sales.A small group pf people loved the EDSEL, STUDABAKER, and even the RAMBLER but the public did not buy them. As the years pass the mowtown sound will fade because the people who love it will also fade, because thats the way life is . The only thing that you can count on is cahnge! It may not be your taste but smooth jazz is now, it will be put in the back in the discount rack just like of old soul and motown acts,are now YOUR CHOICE $1.99

Top of pageBottom of page   By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 10:44 pm:

Kenny Fan:
First of all, I speak not only as a consumer but a former radio executive. The smooth jazz format you hear on the radio was not a creation of the artists but of commercial radio executives who were looking for a way to create advertising revenue. Just because an artist puts out a record doesn't mean it will receive airplay, even if their label dishes out a ton of payola. These tunes are tested by surveys and radio consultants every day. If a song strikes a negative chord with the listener or it's by an unknown artist, it's sayonara (unless a competitor starts playing the record).

There was a time when someone could get a record played without a ton of politics, which is why Gordy was so successful during Motown's heyday. Today it's a different ball game unless you're dealing with college radio (which I prefer to listen to) or community radio.

Also, I will introduce you to a phrase Mother Goins once said - "Classic music never goes away." As long as there are generations that pass down the music to future generations, music from Motown/Detroit, Philly, Chicago, the Big Apple, the South & West Coast will never go away (just like classical, country and jazz have not vanished off the face of the planet). As my brothers & parents passed their record collections to me I hand it over to younger generations to enjoy. Record/CD stores like Tower Records & Virgin Megastore know this - which is why they have sales on older recordings (Motown especially!)consistantly (and trust me, pal - these CDs aren't selling in a discount rack for $1.99).

Finally, if you look back you will see that I posted an item regarding Kenny G's appearance at the Eastman Theater and how I was impressed with his musicianship.

See you in the discount bins...
Kevin Goins - KevGo

Top of pageBottom of page   By douglasm (68.113.15.28) on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 10:51 pm:

Kevin....
....I hate to say it, but young, er, kenny fan makes a point. A reason smooth jazz stations proliferate is people seem to like it. My wife loves it (and I love my wife, so I tolerate it). It isn't "our" music, and although we may critize it, it's probably going to be here for a while.
As to your other comment, young whatever, music style may fade, but they won't die, witness the sucuess (so I con't spell, I was a business major) of the PBS specials. As long as there are people who will listen, styles will continue long after people stop recording them. Look at the various genres mentioned through out this forum, from jug to big band, folk and blues to R&B to the current, there is still interest in ALL facets of musical history by many many people.
By the way, it's spelled MOTOWN.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jay (167.167.44.218) on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 11:20 pm:

So you have a killer guitar player...Lets say Larry Carlton who played my all time favorite guitar solo on Steely Dan's "Kid Charlemagne" tune.

He wants to get airplay on the Snooze Jazz stations.

What does he do?
He (or the label)hires a Scuse Jazz producer who has the inside track. The backing tracks then sound VERY similar to formula SJ. And he gets that airplay.

And he is still Larry Carlton and plays quite well. But does it contain the fire of old.
Hell No!

Buy the old records. They are alive. They are creative.

In LA we have KLON, a real Jazz station.
It boasts a slot way down on the FM dial and a total broadcast power of about 2 watts.
Great station if you can tune it in.

I don't have satellite radio for my car but I am considering it. You can even contact the program director and request new artists and songs!
What a concept.

Top of pageBottom of page   By kenny fan (68.40.52.152) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 07:52 pm:

Econ. 101. Demand drives the market, any market. Music, oil, gold,soy beans ect. What the buying public wants is what the market responds to. This a consumer driven society, that is what freedom is all about. Choice of music, cars, clothing, that is what this county is all about. It made Berry Gordy what he is today, he built a sound and he promoted it, yes Iam sure he used payola as most recoard Co. did at that time.To KevGo as a former radio man you should know your ad rates are set by the book, rating points, If people listen and your points go up the higher rates you can charge.Basic econ.101.In the radio business you will see all the give aways, contests ect, when in sweeps month, the "BOOK" will be comming out soon. A lot of the motown product is sitting in racks in the check out lane at super markets for under $5.00.Iam sure that smooth jazz artists will be their in in a few years. Kenny G, great player, great music.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jim g (205.188.209.38) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 08:02 pm:

Thanks for the Adam Smith primer, Kenny Fan.
Except we're talking about Creative Force, not Market Force.
Art imitates Life. If your man K is popular and sells a lot of records, there is a need for that music. His music is, truly, easy listening.

But I still cannot quite fathom its connection to jazz.
My pal Steve calls it 'Sonic Ambience'. I think that moniker is closer to the mark than jazz.
I don't care if he sells a trillion records, just call it SAM (Sonic Ambience Music) or something.
Mentioning Kenny G in the same breath as John Coltrane or Fletcher Henderson is blasphemous.

Top of pageBottom of page   By john dixon (152.163.188.68) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 09:13 pm:

I make it point to rag on my brother-in-law about liking kenny g. We both grew up in the same small town and he married my sister. In '72, he drove up to Charlotte NC to see the Rolling Stones, which made me think he was pretty cool at the time. Now he's an investment banker and music just doesn't mean that much to him anymore. Aural wallpaper is all he's really looking to get out of music now. Every other Christmas, when they spend it with his folks, I'll call and mock plead with him to PLEASE don't have a kenny g christmas. It's become an expected routine now.

kennyfan, I predict every time that you try to make a case for your boy, somebody on Soulful Detroit not going to be able to let it go uncontested. Just a hunch.

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 03:26 pm:

JIM G - Thanks to the Soulful Detroit Family, I just found one of the songs of which I did not know who was singing. I found "The Seventh Son" by Mose Allison. I had never heard of him before, but I sure remember hearing that song being played over and over. The DJs, all too often, would not give the name of the artist when they played the recording. Whooopeeeee!!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 03:27 pm:

Now I'm looking for "The Snake" and I believe it's by Oscar Brown, Jr.

Top of pageBottom of page   By BankHouseDave (195.93.50.9) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 03:42 pm:

There's a time and a place for almost every kind of music, but you don't have to go there - at least, not right now.

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 04:25 pm:

Well, what gendre of music is that???

Top of pageBottom of page   By ALJAYDU (68.18.100.23) on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 07:05 pm:

I just looked up one of my favorite artist at cduniverse.com...Oscar Peterson...I dunno...
that's a lot of cd's for me to buy !!!!


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