By dvdmike (12.84.13.220) on Saturday, December 21, 2002 - 05:41 pm:

For any of you historians, sessionographers and archivists. Does anyone have a complete Jackie Wilson New York sessionography? I believe the early Brunswick sessions were done at Pythian Temple Studios with Dick Jacobs producing. I know that here in Chicago, he recorded at Columbia, Universal, Sound Market & later Brunswick. What other Big Apple studios did Jackie use? Bell Sound? A&R? Decca? Can anyone help me on this?

By Steve L (209.100.86.4) on Saturday, December 21, 2002 - 05:47 pm:

Hi dvdmike,
Whoever wrote the liner notes for the Jackie 2 for 1 CD's seems to be the person to ask. I'll check my CDs and get a name for you. Maybe the person has a web site or e-mail address.
-Steve

By STUBASS (205.188.209.38) on Saturday, December 21, 2002 - 08:30 pm:

DVD & MIKE: KEVGO IS THE MAN TO ASK ON THIS ONE...IF YOU CAN STILL FIND HIM DURING THE HOLIDAY!!!

By Jim G (64.12.97.7) on Sunday, December 22, 2002 - 01:01 pm:

Another possible source may be Tony Douglas, author of

JACKIE WILSON STORY; The Man, The Music & The Mob BY TONY DOUGLAS

The 'Soul Patrol' website [http://www.soul-patrol.com/soul/jackie.html] offers a synopsis of the book, which they claim will see US publication in 2003. It was first published in the UK.

By Fred (205.188.209.38) on Monday, December 23, 2002 - 05:13 pm:

A word of warning on the Douglas book. This is supposedly a revision of "Lonely Teardrops," a Wilson biography published a couple years ago and quickly withdrawn by the publisher because of numerous factual errors, copyright infringment and the inclusion of some blatantly libelous material. I wouldn't trust the new book to be much of a resource. The real Jackie Wilson book has yet to be written.

Fred W

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Monday, December 23, 2002 - 05:43 pm:

Hey Gang:
I read Tony Douglas' book on JW. I'll say this - as much as I would like to say I was happy to (finally) see this bio come to life, I can't say that I am. Mainly - as Fred W. stated - because the research was shady at best. First of all, Mr. Douglas himself didn't have the guts to reach out to many of the subjects in the book - he had a young girl here in the USA approach certain folks that may have been "troublesome" to cooperate. Second of all, he published photos of Jackie post-1975 that showed him in a vegetative state. These photos were also published without permission of the owner who sued the pants off of Douglas. Third of all, he didn't even spell certain names correctly (recording engineer Bruce Swedien's last name was spelled "Woodene"!; didn't this man ever see any Brunswick LPs from the 1970s that had Bruce's name on them? I have them!). Finally, no matter who writes the book, Jackie's story really has yet to be told for reasons too many to mention. All I can say is that Douglas' attempt to tell a story could've been better if he - like Fredric Dannen, the author of "Hit Men" (who DID tell the truth of Brunswick's problems in the 1970s) - had the courage to face all subjects/matters involved and told an honest story, no matter the consequences.
Regards,
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By Jim G (12.47.224.13) on Thursday, December 26, 2002 - 10:03 am:

Is it possible that JW's first session was done in Detroit, then redone in NY with NY musicians?
Teddy Harris, a longtime pal of Jackie's, states that he played on JW's record of 'Reet Petite'. I don't know if he played piano or tenor sax on the session--likely piano.

By Sue (205.188.209.38) on Thursday, December 26, 2002 - 10:09 am:

Jim,
They could have taken some musicians to NY to do the session -- that was done sometimes, if not a lot ...

By dvdmike (12.84.12.76) on Thursday, December 26, 2002 - 10:32 am:

According to Michel Ruppli's Decca sessionography, "Lonely Teardrops" was recorded in NYC on October 5, 1958 with Dick Jacobs as orchestra leader. The book does not determine which studio, so I don't know whether it was Bell Sound or Pythian Temple or Decca or whatever.

By PJ (24.130.9.237) on Friday, December 27, 2002 - 12:22 am:

For the JW fans, you may want to email a personal and close friend of the late Jackie, Mr. Tony Drake or visit his website at songsbytonydrake.com... You can also see photos of Jackie and Tony together..

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 12:20 pm:

"Lonely Teardrops" was cut at United Sound in 1958 in mono and three-track (mixed to stereo). This info is in the JW Sessionography and from Roquel Billy Davis (who told me the story of how BG wasn't thrilled to hear his ballad become a mambo!).
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By Jim G (205.188.209.38) on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 12:49 pm:

Wow great info Kev!
Is the sessionography you refer to available? Does it list musicians?
Wonder why the Decca info is different?

By David Meikle (62.252.128.6) on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 04:24 pm:

Anyone know the address of Pythian Temple, NYC?

By dvdmike (12.84.11.66) on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 07:20 pm:

Pythian Temple was on West 80th Street, I forgot exactly which corner. (7th Avenue, 8th Avenue)

By Marilyn (65.148.88.48) on Tuesday, December 31, 2002 - 01:25 pm:

I fully agree with Kevin about the Douglas book. It seemed he only took the word of people like his ex-wives & girlfriends about what type of person Jackie was. I knew Jackie from 1955 on,when he would be backstage at Ed McKenzie's Saturday party every week with Berry Gordie tagging along. I also knew Al Green,who was a great guy,& (unfortunately) Nat Tarnapole who was a TURD at best! Jackie was a good friend & a very happy,upbeat person. Another long-time friend of his was a booking agent named Ray Reneri in NYC.
Douglas' book was very degrading to the real man. Ray & I both miss Jackie terribly.
Marilyn

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Tuesday, December 31, 2002 - 02:58 pm:

Marilyn:
Thanks for the insight. It is no wonder why Douglas had to go back and rewrite the book (I use my original copy of the book as a door-stop).
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By dvdmike (12.84.10.25) on Tuesday, December 31, 2002 - 04:37 pm:

I used to correspond with Tony Douglas on an almost regular basis. The guy lives in Australia, which is a bit far away, but he told me all the people he interviewed. So the book should have been better. From a musical standpoint, too bad he couldn't have interviewed the late Dick Jacobs who produced Jackie from 1957 up to the mid-'60s.

By dvdmike (12.84.7.136) on Tuesday, December 31, 2002 - 09:19 pm:

Who produced "Lonely Teardrops"? I always thought it was Dick Jacobs.

By mhc (172.134.230.11) on Tuesday, December 31, 2002 - 10:49 pm:

Since there seems to be some doubt and conjecture, I'm gonna say that my ear tells me that "Lonely Teardrops" was done at the Pythian Temple. It just sounds so much like other records that are known to have come out of there. The sound of that room is very distinctive.

By dvdmike (12.84.12.95) on Wednesday, January 01, 2003 - 09:18 am:

That's what I thought. Listening to stuff recorded at United Sound from that period, it's difficult to believe "Lonely Teardrops" was cut there, their sound was a bit primitive back then ("I Found A Love" by The Falcons was recorded at United less than a year later). "Lonely Teardrops" was also a multi-track recording and mixed for stereo. Did United Sound have that capacity in those days? I still believe the track was cut at The Pythian Temple or Bell Sound.

By Jim G (64.12.97.7) on Wednesday, January 01, 2003 - 11:19 am:

Teddy Harris told me that 'LT' was cut at Berry Gordy's sister's studio (on Farnsworth?) in Detroit. He said that Berry used jazz musicians and that "we didn't charge him anything."
I know in some cases demo's are made locally, shopped around, and remade by the purchasing label. Perhaps this happened with JW's early tracks, like "LT" or "Reet Petite".
Were other early Berry sessions done at his sister's studio? Where was "To Be Loved" recorded?

By dvdmike (12.84.7.254) on Wednesday, January 01, 2003 - 11:43 am:

Could it have been that the demo or an alternate version of "Lonely Teardrops" was done in Detroit? Technology wise, it's all a little fishy. Stereo was still fairly new in 1958 and not all studios were yet equipped for it. I suspect this was the case for United Sound in 1958. If I'm mistaken, somebody correct me.

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 03:21 pm:

dvdmike & all:
I was the co-producer of the CD compilation THE GREATEST HITS OF JACKIE WILSON (Brunswick BRC 33001)and I also oversee the label's tape vault.

First of all, "Lonely Teardrops" & the B-side "In The Blue Of The Evening" were both recorded on three-track tape and in mono. I've seen the 1/2-inch tape & the 1/4-inch of "In The Blue.." at the vault while the 1/2-inch of "Lonely Teardrops" is still missing (the 1/4-inch mono is in the vault).

However, thanks to a dear colleague of mine named Dick Bartley (who produces a series of weekend oldies shows for ABC Radio Networks), he was able to locate the stereo mix of "Lonely Teardrops" that was issued on the (now deleted) Billboard Top R&B Hits of 1958 CD (which I'm in the process of recovering the 3-track tape from Rhino or whoever produced that collection). The stereo mix is from the same session that the mono mix was recorded. I used the stereo mix of "Lonely Teardrops" on the Greatest Hits Of Jackie Wilson CD.

Finally, according to Roquel Billy Davis, the Lonely Teardrops/Blue Of Evening session was supervised by Dick Jacobs. Also, the following is from the Jackie Wilson Sessionography that was emailed to me recently:

UNITED SOUND STUDIOS, DTEROIT
October 5, 1958
Orchestra directed by Dick Jacobs
�Lonely Teardrops�, �In The Blue In The Evening�
Produced by Dick Jacobs

Hopefully, this will put to rest any doubts regarding this classic #1 hit. If not, The Greatest Hits Of Jackie Wilson CD is still available in stores or I will be happy to send anyone who has any doubts a copy of the CD from my office.

Best Regards,
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By Sue (63.85.105.20) on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 03:29 pm:

Considering that John Lee Hooker was recording at United in the late '40s -- admittedly in a funky vein ("Boogie, Chillun") I'm not surprised that United was a slick enough operation to produce "Lonely Teardrops" in the '50s, stereo or mono.

By dvdmike (12.84.17.78) on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 04:31 pm:

Yeah, yeah! Send me one, Kev. I'll send you home address in another e-mail.

By Jim G (64.12.97.7) on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 06:02 pm:

Kev,
Thank-you for the information.

By mhc (172.135.166.19) on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 11:23 pm:

Kevgo, I'm really surprised to read that "Lonely Teardrops" wasn't done in New York, but I know that you do this kind of research for a living, and you know your stuff. What about other tracks from this time period, like "Reet Petite" and "That's Why I Love You So"? Doesn't it sound like mostly the same people singing background on all these tunes? Were they all done in Detroit?

By dvdmike (65.208.234.61) on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 07:08 am:

"Lonely Teardrops" was the only hit Jackie recorded in Detroit until 1975 when his single "Don't Burn No Bridges" with the Chi-Lites stalled at #91 R&B. Carl Davis and Sonny Sanders produced it at United Sound with David Van dePitte doing the arrangement. Everything else up to 1966 was done in New York and from then until 1975 most of his recording was in Chicago except for the album he did with Basie in Hollywood and a few things in New York. Dick Jacobs produced just about all of his early stuff, Milton DeLugg produced "To Be Loved" and "I'm Wandering", Nat Tarnopol is credited with producing most of the things between 1961 and 1966, Carl Davis took over the production duties in 1966 and did almost everything up until the end. Bob Mersey did a couple of things in the early seventies and the "You Got Me Walking" LP was co-produced with Carl by Willie Henderson, Eugene Record and Johnny Moore. The arrangers on the Jackie Wilson material included Jacobs, DeLugg, Mersey, Gil Askey, Berry Gordy's second wife Ray Singleton, Dale Warren, Sonny Sanders, Johnny Pate, Tom Tom Washington and David Van dePitte.

By Ritchie (62.254.0.8) on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 07:32 am:

Wow.... so "Lonely Teardrops" was cut at United on three-track. That is indeed a revelation (to me at least). You know, I'd have bet money it was cut in New York, at the Pythian Temple, where incidentally Buddy Holly's last sessions were recorded. Presumably, Dick Jacobs must have come over from New York to supervise the session.

Kev, I'm not doubting your word for a second - I'm just surprised! Now I'm wondering - did United actually have three-track as early as 1958, or was it a kind of "Decca-mobile" session? Please forgive me - my mind is boggling ;o)

By John Lester (81.132.14.83) on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 08:49 am:

Don't forget that dramatic ballad version of Lonely Teardrops put out in about 1965! That version sends chills down my spine every time I hear it.....its a B side in the UK too!

Talking of Jackie....anyone know "Etcetera Etcetera"...play that one and then the Vandellas "I Tried". Hmmm!

By Sue (205.188.209.38) on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 10:03 am:

Has anyone posted who the background singers were on "Lonely Teardrops"?

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 11:21 am:

Sue:
I'll ask Roquel Billy Davis about the background singers when he returns from vacation next week.
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 11:38 am:

Ritchie, Marshall & All:
While it may be surprising to see that Lonely Teardrops & In The Blue Of The Evening were cut at United Sound in Detroit, keep in mind that Jackie still had a house in Detroit where his (first) wife and children lived (he split his time between Detroit & NYC). Roquel Davis & Berry Gordy were writing tunes in Detroit and, according to BG's autobiography, Jackie could spot a hit song within a verse (a bone of contention for Gordy because he wanted Jackie to hear the entire song, yet Jackie was always on the go and didn't have such patience). Therefore when the Davis/Gordy team came up with Lonely Teardrops, Jackie (and his manager Nat Tarnopol) probably didn't want to wait to return to NYC to cut the track. So they sent for Dick Jacobs and the rest (so far) is history.
Regards,
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By larry (12.141.160.25) on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 11:50 am:

The Jackie Wilson Story:

http://www.bluepower.com/news.jsp?contentId=2718

By Jim G (12.47.224.13) on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 12:50 pm:

Kevin,

Could you ask Mr Davis about the identity of the musicians on JW's United session(s)?

By Ritchie (62.254.0.8) on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 12:57 pm:

Hi Kev

Yes, I'm sure the logistics of recording the song in Detroit make perfect sense - I was just surprised that the technology was available there so early.

By Keith Rylatt (62.252.201.61) on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 12:27 pm:

I'm not sure where Jackie's Higher & Higher was cut but I understand that on the session were - Jamerson, Pistol, Johnny Griffith, Mike Terry and the Andantes. Keith. PS The flip to this disc was bigger in the UK than the top side once it was `discovered`, I always found the A side tempo difficult to dance to!

By dvdmike (65.208.234.61) on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 12:45 pm:

Keith, "Higher And Higher" was cut at Columbia Recording Studios in Chicago on July 6, 1967. Carl Davis produced the session and Sonny Sanders was the arranger and conductor.

By Keith Rylatt (62.252.201.163) on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 11:30 am:

dvdmike. Thanks, I think I will look through some old Shout magazines, they were good for full session details. Keith

By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 01:27 am:

http://thejackiewilsonstory.org/

By dvdmike (12.84.11.238) on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 02:56 am:

"The Jackie Wilson Story" closed it's short run at the Regal, and now it's making a stop or two on it's way to the Apollo. New York, you all are gonna love it! Chester is great and Melba Moore is a great addition. Look out for my friends Eva D and Joe Plummer as well.

By dvdmike (65.208.234.61) on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 07:06 am:

Jackie Wilson was the first (and last) person I ever met who carried $1000 bills in his wallet.

By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 12:49 am:

dvdmike - You are right. I just got back from seeing "The Jackie Wilson Story" at the Music Hall, downtown Detroit. The Jackie Wilson Story is absolutely fantastic. I loved every minute of the musical. I give it a 10+ out of 10.

Melba Moore can still sing. But that CHESTER GREGORY II, left no stone unturned. I have never seen Jackie Wilson perform live, but tonight "Jackie Wilson's Legacy Comes Home to Detroit." I have just so happy that I was able to see Chester singing and dancing like Wilson, I could barely stay in my seat. I can't scream like I used to but I sure tried. That man has so much talent. His dance steps were immaculate, while at the same time hitting those notes Wilson used to hit. He sang all of Wilson's hits, including "Danny Boy." His voice sounds similar to Wilson's voice.

Program - "Chester Gregory II originated the role of Jackie Wilson at Black Ensemble Theater, and received the Joseph Jefferson and Black Excellence Awards for his performance."

Trust me on this one SDers, if this musical is anywhere near you, it is a must that you see it. In doing so, you will feel close to Jackie Wilson. Chester will capture you as he did me.

I saw a couple of friends, Martha Reeves, Norman Thrasher, and Flash Beaver. I met Jackie Wilson's daughter and one of his sons.

Susan Whitall can describe it best.

By Sue (64.12.105.39) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 12:55 am:

Sis I'm over on another thread! But Jackie can't have too many threads.

It was uncanny seeing two sons with a strong resemblance to Jackie walking around, then Gregory is onstage belting out "Lonely Teardrops" and jumping down into repeated splits.

I would put this question out -- some have said that they thought the arrangement of Jackie's songs was too orchestrated and syrupy, and thus sound dated now. What think?

It's wild seeing a 30-year-old guy in a pompadour singing like that -- proving that the talent is out there. "Reet Petite," "Baby Workout," "To Be Loved," "A Woman, a Lover, A Friend" -- whew ...

By Bob Olhsson (68.32.96.67) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 11:09 am:

One thing to remember is that I'm pretty sure the musicians' union did not allow overdubbing at that time so if Berry had recorded the rhythm track elsewhere and then overdubbed at United the way he did for early Motown projects, the paperwork would probably not reflect that fact and the musicians would have been paid as if everything had been recorded at once on the date of the overdub rather than for the backing track session.

In other words, everybody could easily be right about how it was recorded in Detroit.

By Jim G (12.47.224.13) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 11:39 am:

Good point, Bob--
Overdubbing was in use at United in 1948, and maybe earlier.
One of Todd Rhodes' titles was overdubbed and the musician who came in the next day to overdub was paid for only one session.
I didn't think the Union would have a position on overdubbing, but it makes sense.

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 11:50 am:

Sue:
Many critics have said that Jackie's work from the late 50s throught the early 60s were too syrupy and over-orchestrated (the most vociferous was Nelson George, a writer/researcher who I have almost no respect for - reasons mentioned in other threads). Truth be told, Jackie had some of the best arrangers/directors money could buy, from Dick Jacobs to Gil Askey ("Baby Workout"). Horace Ott arranged several songs for JW as well as Raynoma Gordy Singleton (Berry's second wife), who was credited under the name "Ray Singleton" and she conducted her sessions as well as arrange. Also, songs like "Soul Galore", "I Guess I'll Love On" and "I'm So Lonely" were uptempo foot-tappers that would hardly fall under the "mush" category.
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By Sue (63.85.105.20) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 12:07 pm:

Kevgo,
I agree. "Lonely Teardrops" still sounds great, orchestral backing, melanin-challenged backing voices and all ...with the Funk Brothers he sounded much different of course with "Higher and Higher," a song that sounds less dated today perhaps ...

By Lynn Bruce (65.60.200.153) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 04:07 pm:

Melanin- challenged,hee,hee,the exact word I'm looking for when I try to describe a song I think isn't my cup of tea.

By dvdmike (12.84.11.94) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 05:03 pm:

Kev, what did Horace Ott arrange for Jackie? I know he co-wrote some songs, but I didn't know he did any arranging for him. One record by Jackie that I used to have was "I'm Travelin' On", released in January 1964, it had a swingin' Stan Applebaum arrangement. The B-side was "Haunted House". I wish those two cuts would show up somewhere.

By Sue (63.85.105.20) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 06:11 pm:

Well Lynn you know that sound, they sound like the Mitch Miller singers or something ...

By thecount (65.60.201.174) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 07:17 pm:

DVDMIKE,I agree with you on those JACKIE WILSON
one's.I have the 45 on BRUNSWICK #55260.
I'am travelin on/haunted house.
Haven't seen on any CD yet.
"COUNT"

By Lynn Bruce (65.60.200.153) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 08:02 pm:

Sue,Pat Boone trying to "get back,get down,and get it on" when he TRIED to sing Little Richards tunes comes to mind as a good example of melanin-challenged.
I once saw a guy on a stage on the beach in Lauderdale\spring-break sing "What I Say"by Ray Charles just like he was in english class. Every word was perfect, it was just hilarious. The thing is he thought he was"kickin em out".Man,this is starting to remind me of the people that get up in "KARIOKE"BARS

By Sue (64.12.106.51) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 08:12 pm:

Lynn,
Ah yes, Mr. Boone ...

Although lest it be said I'm dissing my melanin-challenged brethren -- I interviewed several of Jackie Wilson's children, and one, Brenda, used to run a variety show, "The Apollo in Detroit" I think it was called. Anyway, we were talking about how good Chester Gregory was portraying her father, and she said she had a white guy who played in her cabaret who sang the hell out of "Danny Boy" in the style of her father. She said he sounded just like him!

Go figure!

By thecount (65.60.201.174) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 08:44 pm:

JOEY FINAZZO,The best white JACKIE WILSON.
One time lead singer with the SEMINOES,and now with THE REFLECTIONS.If you've got the 45 of THE SEMINOES,"OPEN YOUR EYES",JOEY kicks ass and you would swear it is JACKIE.This was back in 1962,and he sounds the same today.
"COUNT"

By StingBeeLee (68.43.129.202) on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 12:29 am:

Count;
Was Joey the one in the Reflections who sang, I think, "To be loved" in the local Detroit PBS station during Doo Wop 51? Boy he SANG that song, I mean he tore that song down. I almost picked up my TV and threw it out the window.

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 11:24 am:

Count:
"Haunted House" was reissued on a UK collection of Jackie's material from 1965 to 1975 called "Floorshakers & Footstompers", released on CD by West Side in 1999.

I'm currently working on a Jackie Wilson anthology for Brunswick that will contain stereo versions of "Haunted House" and "I'm Travelling On" from the original Bell Sound session tapes.

As for the Jackie Wilson songs arranged & conducted by Horace Ott, this is from the JW Sessionography:

BELL SOUND STUDIOS, NEW YORK CITY
February 4, 1965
Orchestra directed by Horace Ott
�Better Play It Safe�, �Stardust�
�She�ll Be There�, �No Time Out�
Produced by Nat Tarnopol

Kevin Goins - KevGo

By Ritchie (62.254.0.8) on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 11:34 am:

Hi Kev

I have a copy of the JW CD you refer to. Obviously, the master wasn't available when this was released, as "Haunted House" is dubbed from a 45!

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 11:41 am:

Ritchie:
Yeah, I had to laugh when I read the credits & heard the transfer. Paul Tarnopol & I got on West Side's case over that ("..you could've called us, but nooooooooo!..."). Their loss - our gain. Like I said, Brunswick will issue that (in glorious stereo from the 4-track session reel)in the spring. I should know because I pulled the Haunted House reel from the library last Monday morning!
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By Ritchie (62.254.0.8) on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 11:52 am:

"Due to deterioration of the mastertape it has been nesessary (sic) to master track 2 from a pristine vinyl source"

- So, Kev - it wasn't "nesessary" at all ;o)

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 12:01 pm:

Ritchie:
I know...What a bunch of b---s--.

First of all the master tape never deteriorated - it's in the tape vault and plays just fine, thank you. West Side was using many tape sources provided to them by MCA UK & PolyGram UK - they NEVER called Brunswick here in the USA for a DAT of the master. Like I said - their loss, our gain.

Second of all, that vinyl source was anything but pristine (I've heard Ace/Kent use vinyl transfers and they do a better job cleaning their sources). That's why Paul & I busted West Side's chops.

When we get this collection ready, you'll be the first to hear it from the session reel (and in stereo)!

Kevin Goins - KevGo

By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 12:17 pm:

See the thread "Jackie Wilson" for the link to Susan Whitall's Detroit News story on the musical from the Jackie Wilson Story.

By Ritchie (62.254.0.8) on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 12:54 pm:

Well, Kev

If they think necessary s spelled "nesessary" perhaps "pristine" is simply a mis-spelling of the word "crap"? ;o)

By dvdmike (12.84.13.147) on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 04:56 pm:

Will there be any other gems, particularly in stereo like "There'll Be No Next Time" & "Baby, That's All"?

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 07:18 pm:

dvdmike:
yes - those songs will be included
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By dvdmike (12.84.13.147) on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 07:40 pm:

Who is doing the audio work?

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 12:14 pm:

Dennis Drake will be mixing and remastering the project. He has done 90% of Brunswick's remastering.
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By dvdmike (12.84.13.198) on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 06:40 pm:

Great, I liked the things he did for Polygram. British Edsel released two-fers of all of Jackie's LPs except for the greatest hits compilations. Edsel released the earlier albums in mono, although most of them were issued in stereo, except the first two, "He's So Fine" & "Lonely Teardrops". I must admit I was a bit disappointed in that.

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 08:34 pm:

dvdmike:
I was also disappointed in Edsel's reissues. Once again, they could've asked Paul & me for the DAT transfers - we would've transfered them from the original three track reels. Oh well....
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By dvdmike (12.84.7.221) on Saturday, February 08, 2003 - 12:51 am:

I sure would love to have all that stuff in stereo.

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 08:44 pm:

dvdmike:
All in good time, my friend. I'll keep you posted.
Kevin Goins - KevGo

By dvdmike (12.84.21.224) on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 09:51 pm:

Looking forward