By MEL&THEN SOME (195.219.7.106) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 11:42 am:

I would appreciate any information regards the career of StuBass and if your fine self Stu can give me as much information as you can,then I for one will be very grateful.MEL.

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 11:58 am:

Your turn to dish Stu. Let's here it.

By STUBASS (64.12.97.7) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 01:49 pm:

MEL AND RALPH; YOU GUYS GIVE ME WAY TOO MUCH CREDIT TO DESERVE MY VERY OWN THREAD. I JUST GOT BACK HOME FROM THE DENTIST, AND TALKING ABOUT MYSELF MAKES ME FEEL LIKE I NEVER LEFT THE DENTIST'S CHAIR...OUCH! ANYWAY...AND PLEASE DELETE ME IF I START TO RAMBLE...I WAS DROPPED ONTO A STAGE BY A SPACESHIP AT ABOUT THE AGE OF SEVEN. I USED TO SING, ACCOMPANIED BY MY AMAZINGLY TALENTED BROTHER...BRUCE MILLER ON GUITAR..HE WAS ABOUT 12 AT THE TIME...AND MY COUSIN KENNY ON DRUMS. I USED TO DO ELVIS, JERRY LEE LEWIS, CHUCK BERRY, ETC. TUNES. A FRIEND OF MY DADS DECIDED THAT I NEEDED AN INSTRUMENT, SO HE BOUGHT ME A BEAT UP OLD TENOR SAXAPHONE FROM A PAWN SHOP. I TOOK A FEW LESSONS, BUT HAD TO TAKE A BREAK FOR A FEW WEEKS TO GO TO SUMMER CAMP. MY BROTHER FILLED IN FOR ME AT MY SAX LESSONS, AND THUS...A MUSICAL MONSTER WAS BORN...NOT ME. I CONTINUED TO PERFORM WITH THEM FROM TIME TO TIME, LEARNED A LITTLE PIANO, AND WAS RECRUITED BY MY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO LEARN TO PLAY EITHER THE DOUBLE BASS, OR CELLO. I GRABBED THE BASS, AND POOR RAMON ROBINSON WAS STUCK WITH THE CELLO. I STUDIED THE UPRIGHT BASS, AND SOON BECAME ACCOMPLISHED ENOUGH TO BE ASKED TO JOIN THE DETROIT JUNIOR ALL-CITY ORCHESTRA. JUMPING AHEAD, IN HIGH SCHOOL I ALSO ASKED TO PLAY IN THE ALL-CITY ORCHESTRA, BUT MY ATTENTION WAS MORE INTO JAZZ AND R&B. I PLAYED IN A CITY SCHOOL SPONSORED JAZZ QUARTET, WHERE WE PERFORMED AT VARIOUS SCHOOLS AROUND THE CITY. BACKING UP A LITTLE BIT, GROWING UP IN NORTHWEST DETROIT DURING THE BIRTH OF MOTOWN RECORDS, PUT ME IN CONTACT WITH MANY OF THE MOTOWN ARTISTS OF THE DAY. I GUESS I JUST TOOK FOR GRANTED BEING AROUND THESE PEOPLE AS NEIGHBORS AND FELLOW DETROITERS. AS MOTOWN GREW INTO WHAT IT ULTIMATLY BECAME, IT CERTAINLY HAD A LARGE INFLUENCE ON MY MUSICAL TASTE'S. I AQUIRED MY FIRST ELECTRIC BASS IN MY EARLY TEENS, AND TURNED MY ATTENTION TO MORE CONTEMPORARY MUSIC. THROUGHOUT HIGH SCHOOL, I PLAYED IN SEVERAL MUSICAL GROUPS IN AND AROUND THE CITY. THAT IS WHERE I CAME INTO CONTACT WITH MANY OF HE ARTISTS THAT I HAVE OFTEN REFERRED TO ON OTHER THREADS. I WONT GO INTO ANY OF THOSE NOW, AS THEY TEND TO MAKE BETTER STORIES IN SMALL SNIPPETS, PROMPTING MY MEMORIES FROM THE STIMULATING DISCUSSIONS ON THIS FORUM. I CONTINUED PLAYING AND BECOMING INVOLVED IN VARIOUS MUSICAL PRODUCTIONS THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL AND WELL INTO COLLEGE. MY BROTHER BY THIS TIME, WAS GAINING RECOGNITION ON A GRANDER SCALE THROUGHOUT THE WORLD. I OPTED OTHER CAREER PATHS, INCLUDING WORKING FOR SEVERAL YEARS AS A DETROIT RADIO NEWSCASTER. I ALSO FROM TIME TO TIME GOT INVOLVED WITH OLD FRIENDS FROM MY MUSIC DAYS IN SEVERAL RELATED PROJECTS. I CURRENTLY LIVE IN THE LOS ANGELES AREA, ALONG WITH MY BROTHER, WHO ENJOYS A RENOWNED CAREER AS A TELEVISION MUSIC COMPOSER, ALTHOUGH HE HAS A VAST LIST OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN THE FIELD OF RECORD PRODUCTION. THAT'S ABOUT IT IN A "NUTSHELL", ALTHOUGH AS I READ VARIOUS ITEMS ON THE FORUM, MY MEMORY KICKS IN, AND I ENJOY RELATING STORIES AND FILLING IN THE "CRACKS" FOR ALL OF YOU PARTICIPANTS...JUST DON'T ASK ME WHAT I ATE FOR BREAKFAST THIS MORNING???? MANY THANKS FOR ASKING...STUBASS

By STUBASS (64.12.97.7) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 01:52 pm:

PS...I DON'T ACTUALLY LIVE "WITH" MY BROTHER...WE BOTH LIVE IN THE L.A. AREA...STUBASS

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 02:17 pm:

Stu,
Thanks for the story. I didn't know your brother was Bruce Miller. He and my brother Russ are very close and have worked on many projects together.

By STUBASS (64.12.97.7) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 02:34 pm:

RALPH; RUSS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE PEOPLE AROUND. I CAN'T SPEAK TOO MUCH ABOUT HIS TREMENDOUS ABILITIES AS A WORLD CLASS ENGINEER...I DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A FRAMITZ AND A VEEBELFLETZER..I CAN ONLY RELY ON THE OPINIONS OF THOSE MUCH MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE...BUT I HAVE NEVER RUN INTO RUSS WHERE I DIDN'T FEEL BETTER AFTER VISITING WITH HIM THAN I DID BEFORE I SAW HIM...REGARDS...STU

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 04:00 pm:

Thanks for the nice words about my brother Stu. I have to agree with you. He has a way of making ones day a little better.

By Livonia Ken (136.2.1.153) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 04:07 pm:

Okay, since this is Stu's thread, I'll come clean. When I first saw his handle on this forum, I read the first part as "stub" and the second part as ... well ... never mind, let's just say it seemed odd. I was relieved when others started referring to him as "Stu" and he expressed his interest in the "bass", though.

Regards,
Ken

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 04:13 pm:

Yeah but Ken...what if we have it wrong?? Wouldn't that be funny. Maybe he's Bruce's little brother and they referred to him as Stub-ass. I'm just kidding Stu. Sorry.

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 04:39 pm:

OK RALPH...JUST FOR THAT...LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY FAVORITE MUSICAL ARTISTS OF ALL TIME..."DINO, DESI, AND BILLY". THEY BLOW AWAY THOSE MUSICAL IMPOSTERS "CROSBY, STILLS, AND NASH". I LISTEN TO D,D,&B RELIGIOUSLY THREE TIMES EVERY DAY...DINO ONCE...DESI ONCE...AND BILLY ONCE...STU (TONGUE PLANTED FIRMLY IN CHEEK)

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 04:42 pm:

Stu:
"I'm Just A Fool.....Still in love with you..."
Hey, don't knock DD&B...Billy Hinsche was actually a really fine guitarist and toured with the late Carl Wilson (as well as the Beach Boys during their "Kokomo" years).
KevGo

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 05:00 pm:

KEVGO; NO OFFENSE INTENDED. TOMORROW I"LL LISTEN TO BILLY THREE TIMES...STU

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 05:01 pm:

OK Stu, You got me laughing on that one.
Speaking of Dino Desi and Billy. Wasn't it Dino that would become an armed forces pilot and then get killed in an air related accident?

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 05:13 pm:

RALPH; TRAGICALLY, DEAN MARTINS SON DINO JR. WAS KILLED IN A MILITARY AIRCRAFT ACCIDENT NEAR RIVERSIDE. HE WAS A MEMBER OF THE AIR FORCE RESERVE, AND USED TO FLY MILITARY FIGHTER PLANES. I BELEIVE THIS OCCURED DURING THE LATE 80"S. IT'S SAID THAT DEAN MARTIN SR. NEVER RECOVERED FROM HIS SONS UNFORTUNATE ACCIDENT, AND LIVED OUT HIS LIFE SUFFERING FROM THIS GREAT LOSS...STU

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 05:50 pm:

Yeah, I remember all that Stu. Very sad for Dean Sr.

By Millivanilli (68.40.198.72) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 06:03 pm:

Hey Ralphie Boy,

I didn't know you had a brother named Stu!

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 07:32 pm:

I don't Millivanilli but I have a sister named Millie.

By Mark Speck (64.158.98.114) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 08:03 pm:

Interesting tidbit: the mountain that Dean Paul Martin's plane crashed into was the same mountain that a plane carrying Dolly Sinatra (Frank's mother) crashed into, killing her.

I heard that Frank said to Dino something to the effect of "What did that mountain ever do to us?".

I forget where I read this, but it is true!!

Best,

Mark

By MilliVanilli/Millie (68.40.198.72) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 08:41 pm:

Ralph,

Would that be me?? Does that mean that Russ has a sister named Millie too? Wow...that's sooo cool.

I'll be in LA at Christmas time...can you arrange to come down for a day or two?? Maybe we could go see "D.T." again!!!! I think I'd understand what's going on this time!

Love, Your Sista

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 08:53 pm:

Yes little sista, Russ is also your brother. Maybe you can come up to Monterey at Christmas if I can't make it down to L.A.
At this stage of my life I'm not sure if I would really know what D. T. is all about.

By yur liddle sistur (68.40.198.72) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 09:48 pm:

Dear Bro,
If I know you as well as I think I do, I doubt that you'd have trouble understanding "D.T"!!!!! You understood it before so why wouldn't you remember it now??

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 10:13 pm:

DEAR TERRANA FAMILY; SINCE THIS THREAD IS SUPPOSED TO BE DEDICATED TO YOURS TRULY, I FEEL IT'S MY RIGHT TO JUMP IN RIGHT ABOUT HERE. D.T.???D.T??? ARE WE TALKING DELERIUM TREMORS HERE????????? STUBASS

By Ralph the repentant (209.240.198.62) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 11:00 pm:

Your making me laugh again Stu. OK OK you win. You're absolutely right. This is YOUR thread. Apologies all around.

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 11:02 pm:

RALPH; PLEASE...GO RIGHT AHEAD WITH THE TERRANA FAMILY REUNION. I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHY THERE IS A "WHOLE LOTTA SHAKING GOIN ON"????????STU

By Ralphie the Elder (209.240.198.62) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 11:03 pm:

One final thing to Millie Stu....Sista...I'm getting old!!

By Ralph the bewildered (209.240.198.62) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 11:08 pm:

Stu,
My little sister Millie has always had a provocative nature.Trouble is you're on hallowed ground here so you'll just have to hang on for this ride. ( I'm not even sure what I just said there )

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 11:14 pm:

RALPH(THE WHATEVER); I'M ALL STRAPPED IN!!!!STU

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 11:23 pm:

MEL; YOU GOT ME INTO ALL OF THIS!!! WHERE ARE YOU??? PLEASE HELPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!STU

By StingBeeLee (209.104.137.201) on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 12:22 am:

Stu;
Growing up in Northwest Detroit, did you attend either Pasteur or Bagley elementary schools?

By Terrydrum (64.12.97.7) on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 12:42 am:

This thread is worthless. Let's get back to music. I can't stomach any more of this drivel. I'm out. Cya wouldn't want to beya.

By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 01:19 am:

STINGBEELEE; PASTEUR...FROM ABOUT 56 TO 61. HAMPTON JUNIOR HIGH, AND EVERYWHERE FOR HIGH SCHOOL. TERRYDRUM; YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT! BUT LIKE THEY SAY..."YOU GOTTA GIVE EM WHAT THEY WANT". YOU ARE WELCOME HERE ANYTIME. STUBASS

By MEL&THEN SOME (195.219.7.51) on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 01:47 am:

Stu,Ralph and Terrana family members many thanks for a fine thread.Stu,what happened to you after your work with the strides?(dont I go on Stu,or what)MEL.

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 09:33 am:

Hey Terry,
Don't go away. Things like this happen from time to time.

By StingBeeLee (155.139.50.14) on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 12:23 pm:

Stu;
I also went to Pasteur '64 to '71; and Hampton '71 to '74. We have had a couple of Pasteur all year reunions; Miss Robinson (librarian); Mr. Bauerle (gym); Ms. Lehman (kindergarten and first grade); Mr. Matthews and a lot of students from around your years were there! Who was your music teacher? If you lived around the Santa Barbera/Outer Drive area, you grew up not too far from me.

By BassLand (64.169.104.163) on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 12:48 pm:

Hi StuBass,

I see you are in the L.A. area, so am I. I would like to make contact with you. It is always good to know wnother bassist who is into SD and the Motown sound. I may be reached at 213 977-0530.

Please give me a jingle...

Bob Lee (AKA BassLand)

RALPH, could I get a thread? I know I could just start one but choose to ask first. I would like to introduce myself musically to SD. I have video clips and other media stuff I would post links too. Please let me know BTW did you ever get the photos of the Funk Brothers premier here in L.A. that I sent you some time ago? Let me know

By STUBASS (205.188.209.38) on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 01:01 pm:

MEL, RALPH, TERRANA FAMILY(ESP. MILLIE), STINGBEE, ETC; FIRST OF ALL MEL; YOU MAY, YOU MAY...JUST A WRAP ON MY PLAYING DAYS. ONE OF MY FIRST BANDS DURING MY EARLY TEENS CONSISTED OF MYSELF, GARY KRASTOFF ON DRUMS...R.I.P. AND BOBBY FRANKLIN ON VIBES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. BOBBY DID SOME RECORDING IN THE LATE SIXTIES UNDER THE NAME "BOBBY FRANKLINS INSANITY". THE LAST GROUP I BELONGED TO WAS A SEVEN PIECE "SLY" TYPE OF BAND..LATE SIXTIES TO ABOUT 70. TWO OF THE MEMBERS YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF...CARL GRAVES ON DRUMS...WAS PLAYING IN FREDA PAYNE'S ROAD BAND THE LAST TIME I SAW HIM...AND NORMA JEAN BELL ON ALTO SAXAPHONE. NORMA WAS A VERY TALENTED PLAYER WHO WENT ON TO PLAY IN STEVIE'S BACKUP BAND "WONDERLOVE". NORMA USED TO LIVE NEAR ME IN THE LAFAYETTE PARK AREA. THE LAST TIME I VISITED WITH HER, SHE WAS TOURING WITH FRANK ZAPPA. FROM THERE IT WAS FAMILY BUSINESS FOR A WHILE, AND THEN EMBARKED ON A RADIO BROADCASTING CAREER IN DETROIT AND SO. CAL. FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE MANAGEMENT OF AUTOMOBILE DEALERSHIPS IN THE LOS ANGELES AREA. STINGBEE; MISS ROBINSON WAS A "FOX" WHEN I KNEW HER. MR. BAUERLE WAS A GREAT GUY...HE RAN THE SAFETY PATROL, AND I WAS A LIEUTENANT. MR. PICKENS WAS THE MUSIC TEACHER, ALTHOUGH MR. CABRERRA I BELIEVE GOT ME STARTED ON BASS...OR WAS HE THE ALL-CITY GUY??? RALPH; WERE YOU ALWAYS THIS BIG A TROUBLEMAKER? MEL AGAIN; I'M CERTAINLY INTERESTED IN HOW YOU GAINED SO MUCH KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE MUSIC AND MUSICIANS OF OUR ERA. CAN YOU GIVE US SOME BACKGROUND AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING TODAY. LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR RESPONSE. THEN PERHAPS, WE CAN INVOLVE OURSELVES IN A MORE INTENSE DISCOURSE OF THE SUBJECT MATTER AS SOME (ONE) HAS SUGGESTED. THANKS...STUBASS

By STUBASS (205.188.209.38) on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 01:23 pm:

BASSLAND; JUST NOTICED YOUR POST. WILL BE HAPPY TO CONTACT YOU. LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM ME IN THE NEAR FUTURE...STU

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 01:49 pm:

Stu,
I don't look at myself as a trouble maker. More of a situation enabler. kind of a catalyst if you will. I also must tell you that you gave me the major smile of the day with your Firesign Theater respnose to Mike McLean.

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 01:52 pm:

OOOPS!!!
Sorry. The remark gets credited to KevGo.
That's ok Stu. You've made me laugh on other occasions.

By David Meikle (62.252.128.6) on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 01:57 pm:

Bbo

The pics you refer to have been brought to the top of the forum today under
"Bassland and SITSOM"

Regards
David

By MEL&THENSOME (195.219.7.63) on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 02:02 pm:

Stu.many,many,thanks for all your time.I for one have been most interested in what youve had to say,Looking foward to talking to you again real soon mate.Im trying to find out the routine to the Stride.Is it 2 paces left,oh never mind.MEL.

By SteveS (64.12.97.7) on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 02:52 pm:

Stu and Lee,

It sounds like you guys must have done some time at Mumford (High School). Did you cross paths with Stan Cleveland, Ed Pickens or David Reinstein?

SteveS (Bagley alumni)

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 05:02 pm:

STEVES; STANLEY CLEVELAND, ED PICKENS, JAMES CHEERS, BOBBY FRANKLIN...ABSOLUTELY...

By thecount (64.53.165.90) on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 05:29 pm:

Hey STU,that is really a Kool life and story.Very interesting and so coeincidental to everyone here and reading all that re sponded to you is what puts so much enjoyment into this forum,the way it should be.It's all about friends you knew and friends you could only make here.I enjoyed it.Keep it up.I have a friend who's last name is GOTTS.I always ask him if his dads name was STU.
"COUNT"

By Millie (68.40.198.72) on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 05:41 pm:

Hey All You Detroit Jewish Guys!
I went to Mumford too! What's the deal here?

Stu,
If you really want to know what "D.T." is, just ask Ralph...he'll be happy to tell you.

Caused a little furor on the thread did we? Well, you know how hot tempered the Italians are, and you certainly know how even tempered the Jews are (yeah, right)... I always wanted to be Italian, and Ralph always wanted to be Jewish so we sorta flipped our blood lines.

By SteveS (205.188.209.38) on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 06:16 pm:

Stu,

Pickens was a fabulous upright and electic bass player, and the first guy to mention the name Jamerson to me. I don't know what happened to him. I think he played in the Miracles road band in the early 70's and was very active in the Detroit jazz scene and then ??? Stan was with McKinley Jackson and the Politicians, and I think he did some work with Edwin Starr. I'm surprised we haven't heard about him either.

SteveS

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 06:59 pm:

STEVE; I LEFT MUMFORD AT ABOUT THAT TIME. TWO VERY GOOD "BRASSERS" AT THE TIME...STANLEY LOVE AND RICKEY FERRETTE(THAT DUDE COULD PLAY TRUMPET). STU

By Larry (216.23.183.2) on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 08:12 pm:

So I'm not the only heeb from D who plays bass and lives in LA. Far phukkin out!
This has been an entertaining thread Terrana siblings and all...(steves).

We should all get together and play 'Kick the Can' or 'Capture the Flag'. Sila's pizza on me to the first one who can spell Trazooski correct.
I had relatives in Hamtramack, I should call and ask.

By StingBeeLee (68.43.129.202) on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 12:34 am:

SteveS, Stubass, Millie;
I did not go to Mumford, but rather Cass Tech.
Am not Jewish, we were the third black family on the street when we moved in, the rest mostly Jewish. Boy, did I have a great time on the street! SteveS, David Reinstein lived across the street from me, he's about 8 or 10 years older than me. His parents and my parents still live across the street from each other. Stubass, I would like to get in touch with you offline on an e-mail, as we have a Pasteur alumni group consisting of both the Jewish and Black alumni that went there. We do a lot for the kids there, including tutoring, etc. I'll have to tell Mr. Bauerle (now in Georgia) and Miss Robinson you said hello. Yes, I was a subsitute safety patrol member also!

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 12:46 am:

STINGBEELEE; MY LAST CHECK OF THE THREAD BEFORE HEADING HOME, AND IT'S A PLEASURE TO HEAR FROM YOU. CASS TECH...SO YOU WERE ONE OF THOSE "REALLY" SMART KIDS. BOTH OF THOSE TEACHERS YOU MENTIONED SHOULD CERTAINLY REMEMBER THE MILLER FAMILY. FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME AT MY HOME E-MAIL ADDRESS...STUM360@AOL.COM. I DON'T KEEP UP WITH MY E-MAIL AS I SHOULD, BUT I WILL GET IT SOONER OR LATER.BASSLAND; I WILL CERTAINLY CONTACT YOU. I HAVN'T HAD A CHANCE TODAY, BUT LOOK FOR MY CALL. EVERYONE ELSE; THANKS FOR HANGIN' OUT ON MY THREAD!!!!

By MilliVanilli (68.40.198.72) on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 11:04 am:

Hi Larry,
I pass Sila's on Twelve Mile everyday! How about Red Devil on Fenkell? Still open and still serving great pizza!!!

By STUBASS (205.188.209.38) on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 11:18 am:

MILLIEV & LARRY; WHAT ABOUT ROCKYS (7 MI BETWEEN WYOMING AND MEYERS)??????

By Millie (68.40.198.72) on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 11:33 am:

Ok Stu...
You've done it now! I used to have pizza delivered from Rocky's, including two cokes... the bill was $1.25 not including tip!!!

How about the Royal Theatre, and the Dairy Queen on Outer Drive??

I remember driving down Greenfield going north to 7 Mile the first time I heard "The Way You Do The Things You Do"! I was on a date with Stuart Avig, formerly of the Valadiers (first white group on Motown), and he used to sing the Eddie Kendricks part! Geez...Motown Memories, eh?

By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 12:14 pm:

MILLIE; PARDON THE "DRIVEL"...BUT IF THOSE PRICES DONT MAKE YOU FEEL OLD...WHAT DOES?????

By Millie (68.40.198.72) on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 02:01 pm:

Looking in the mirror, Stu, looking in the mirror!

By Larry (12.141.160.25) on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 02:23 pm:

Millie and all,
Pizza and Motown.
Drs. Prescription.

By Millie (68.40.198.72) on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 01:54 am:

Hey Larry,
Had dinner at Sila's tonight! The pizza was excellent!

By Not Larry (12.141.160.25) on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 03:05 am:

Lol. Come on Millie, what does this have to do with Motown and soul?
---so you liked the pizza ehh?--- shh-shh
I think they can hear us.
---did you get some ray's ice cream afterwards?
Pistachio is the bomb.

Alright, so Joe Messina is just a great guy, and Jamerson's out of his head wacko mania mutherphuk.
Can't WAIT to see the film.
Jamoca Almond Fudge....mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

By StingBeeLee (68.43.129.202) on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 11:25 pm:

SteveS, my Mother told me that David Reinstein was on the street last week visiting his parents and had a long chat with my brother;
Stubass; I know some of the '61 and '62 Pasterites would love to know that we talked on this forum and that you're doing well in LA;
Millie, was the Royal Theatre the one on 7 mile and Meyers and the Varsity on Livernois and 6 mile?

By Ralph Terrana (ralph) (209.240.198.62) on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 09:33 am:

Bee,
The Royal was on 7 Mile and Meyers. Who remembers Zukins ice cream parlor across the street from the Royal with all those outrageous ice cream creations?

By Millie (68.40.198.72) on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 07:15 pm:

Sting,
Yes, the Royal Theatre was on 7 Mile and Meyers, and the Varsity was on Livernois and 6 Mile!

Ralph...more than Zukin's icecream, were their ribs! OMG the best ribs in town! Yummmmmmie!

I never thought I'd be talking about things that happened over 30 years ago..my parents used to do that...never thought I would! HELP, I'VE TURNED INTO MY MOTHER!!!

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 07:37 pm:

MILLIE; ZUKINS???BEST RIBS IN TOWN??? HOW ABOUT CHECKER BBQ ON LIVERNOIS? NOT ONLY RIBS, BUT CATS PLAYING JAZZ UNTIL 4 A.M. ALSO...TUNNELL BBQ...WORTH THE TRIP UNDER THE RIVER!!!STU

By Larry (216.23.183.2) on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 08:06 pm:

You guys havin fun?
Stu, I was at Tunnel recently. Yummy.
And Checker BBQ, that brings back memories.
Scotch N Sirloin still around?

By Millie (68.40.198.72) on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 10:39 pm:

Hey Larry,
Scotch 'N' Sirloin hasn't been around for years! Yes, I do remember Checker BBQ,,,I have a funny story that revolves around the place! I remember how great their coleslaw was!

Hi Stu,
Whatcha talking about that Zukin's was no good? Their ribs were delicious. The Rib Shack on Livernois and the Lodge were fantastic...especially the poo-poo platter!

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 10:56 pm:

OK MILLIE; I NEVER SAID THAT ZUKINS WAS "NO GOOD". BUT DID THEY HAVE LIVE MUSIC? HUH??? RIB SHACK WAS ALRIGHT, BUT THEY HAD NEW OWNERS EVERY SIX MONTHS. A HIGH SCHOOL FRIEND'S FAMILY OWNED YOUNGS BBQ...GREAT SOUL FOOD BBQ. THE SAUCE WOULD BRING TEARS TO YOUR EYES. IF YOU'RE IN LA, CHECK OUT THE "BEAR PIT"...AWESOME. GETTIN HUNGRY...GOTTA GO...STU

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 02:14 pm:

STU:
KevGo here...In regards to Bobby Franklin's Insanity - I work for a compilation label that is trying to reissue his work on the Thomas label. Could you please send me your direct email because you may be of some help to me....
Regards,
KevGo

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 02:35 pm:

HEY KEVGO; HOW'S IT GOING? I KNEW BOBBY IN HIGH SCHOOL. HIS DAD WAS A DRUMMER, AND BOBBY HAD A SET OF VIBES, WHICH WAS HIS PRIMARY INSTRUMENT AT THE TIME. WE FOUND OUT BY ACCIDENT THAT HE WAS A "KICK ASS" DRUMMER. I WOULD BE GLAD TO GIVE YOU ANY INFORMATION THAT I COULD, HOWEVER, IT'S PRETTY MUCH LIMITED TO OUR SCHOOL DAYS, PLAYING A FEW GIGS, AND RUNNING INTO HIM ONCE OR TWICE IN LATER YEARS. HOME E-MAIL...STUM360@AOL.COM

By MEL&THEN SOME (195.219.7.113) on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 02:36 pm:

Hey Kev,this isnt the Thomas label that had Saxie Russell and many others on it,is it?I cant remember where that Label came out of.Thanks.MEL.STU,hope you dont mind me chipping in on your thread mate.

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 02:59 pm:

MEL; ANY TIME FRIEND!!!!STU

By MEL&THEN SOME (195.219.7.113) on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 03:25 pm:

Stu,many thanks good buddy,Just one more for Kev,Its just come back to me Kev,The (Jamo)Thomas label was out of Chicago.Hey Stu,hows it going mate,hope you are fit and well.Cant stay long as somebody is singing The Way You Do The Things You Do in my ears.Cant recall the artist or the band at this moment,any ideas Stu.Take it easy mate,catch you later.MEL.

By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 05:08 pm:

MEL:
The Thomas label was owned by Eddie Thomas, who was the manager of the Impressions and later the TOM in CURTOM Records.
KevGo

By MEL&THEN SOME (195.219.7.90) on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 01:51 pm:

Stu,
I Have just played the wanted and needed track by Gwen Owens,
you know,the one YOU played Bass on.
And Stu,
I forgot what an awesome Bassline was on the record.
Totally superb,
Take a bow Stu,
And as well as gwen and co. who are also on the record,
Stu,your the man!
your friend,
Mel(andthensome).

By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 02:38 pm:

THANKS MEL; AS I MENTIONED TO YOU BY E-MAIL, THAT BASS LINE POPPED INTO MY HEAD A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, AND I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT IT WAS...THEN...BOOM..."WANTED AND NEEDED" BY GWEN. IT ALL CAME BACK...THE SESSION, BACKGROUND SINGERS, ETC... I REMEMBER THE FOUR BAR BASS INTRO, WHICH WAS PROBABLY ACCOMPANIED BY PIANO (ROGER BASS), BONGO'S (JAMES GREER), CONGA (GEORGE HEIGHT), AND PERHAPS GUITAR (SHAWN JACKSON), AND DRUM'S (SID THE "ROCK" JONES). WE ALSO WERE ACCOMPANIED BY TWO ALTO SAX'S, ONE TENOR, ONE BARITONE SAX, TWO TRUMPETS, AND A TROMBONE...ALL TEENAGED KIDS. IT'S A THRILL TO ME THAT YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT PARTICULAR CUT, SINCE I REALLY DONT RECALL MUCH ABOUT IT'S RELEASE OVER HERE. PLUS, IT WAS A PLEASURE TO ACCOMPANY THE VERY TALENTED GWEN OWENS...THANKS FOR THE MEMORY...STU

By MEL&THEN SOME (195.219.7.26) on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 02:48 pm:

Hey Stu,
thank you and everyone concerned.
Jesus, just look at that awesome
line up and instruments involved.
Totally out-site(andthensome).
As well as the magical Gwen Owens.Fantastic stuff.
Stu,if any more Basslines
pop into your head like wanted and needed,then brother, Im all ears.
Thanks Stu,
MEL(Still trying to do the Stride).

By MEL&THEN SOME (195.219.7.26) on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 03:14 pm:

Stu,
some info for you,
just been told that the wanted and needed on Velgo is going for around 800pounds,
and apparantly Gwen Owens may be bringing a few copies over(thanx to the flynster on price etc).
Also I was told the other day that The Stride is fetching up to 100pounds these days.
MEL.

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 04:48 pm:

MEL; AND TO THINK...I COULD PROBABLY GET MORE FOR THOSE RECORDS TODAY...IF I HAD THEM...THAN I WAS PAID TO PLAY ON THEM. BUT HECK, EVEN THE FUNKS (JOE MESSINA) CLAIM THAT THEY WERE PAID A MERE FIVE BUCKS A TUNE IN THE EARLY 60"S. BABBITT CLAIMS THAT BY THE LATE 60'S...HE WAS PAID TEN BUCKS AN HOUR...STU

By MEL&THEN SOME (195.219.7.55) on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 03:51 pm:

StuBass,
Get back on this forum
where you belong brother.
Its because of musicians like yourself,that people can talk on such forums.
Mel.

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 04:04 pm:

MEL BUDDY; I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS OFF!!!JUST WORKING AT THE PRESENT MOMENT...PS...HOLSTER THAT PISTOL...BUT THE CONCEPT OF THE FLAG HAS GIVEN ME MORE THAN A SMALL CHUCKLE...STU

By MEL&THEN SOME (195.219.7.67) on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 04:16 pm:

good to hear stu,
now I am outahere.
MEL.

By M.McLeanTech (66.218.42.38) on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 11:04 pm:

Stu,

I regret that my sincere effort to be honest and educational may have caused you to investigate, and question, the possibility that you were, if not disgruntled, at any rate far from gruntled; thus leading to a change of viewpoint which had the potential of being a source of attenuation of the vast flow of infinitly valuble information that otherwise is forthcoming, on a regular basis, from one of the very best sources of wisdom that this forum is privlidged to absorb and adore.

Mike McLean

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 11:21 pm:

MIKE; I AM CERTAINLY IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID, SINCE I COULD HARDLY DISAGREE WITH SOMETHING THAT I DO NOT TOTALLY UNDERSTAND... HOWEVER, IT CERTAINLY LOOKS IMPRESSIVE, SO I MUST ASSUME THAT YOUR REMARKS ARE GIVEN IN THE SPIRIT OF FRIENDSHIP AND MUTUAL RESPECT, WHICH BEING THE CASE, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE...THANKS...STU

By M.McLeanTech (66.218.42.38) on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 11:30 pm:

Stu,

Translation:

I said what I felt should be said.

I felt like a surgeon working on my Son's heart.

Mike McLean

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 11:37 pm:

GEEZ MIKE; NOW I CAN ONLY HOPE THAT ALL THOSE YEARS OF TURNING KNOBS AND SETTING EQUALIZER BARS HAVE LEFT YOU WITH STEADY HANDS...STU

By M.McLeanTech (66.218.42.38) on Tuesday, November 26, 2002 - 12:24 am:

Stu,

I didn't turn knobs and set equalizer bars.

I drilled holes in panels for mounting the shafts on which we installed the knobs.

We dreamed of panel mounted displays of spectrum analizers, but I could not con Berry into paying for them. In those days, such a display could cost the price of a new Lexus, in today's money. I tried, but Berry refused.

I suggest that you consider the idea that it would be good for your soul to try to gradually try to master the technique of using upper and lower case as you type.

Cheers,

Mike McLean

By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Tuesday, November 26, 2002 - 01:44 am:

OK MIKE; I NOW FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE KNOWING THAT PANEL MOUNTED SPECTRUM ANALIZERS CANNOT CAUSE LONG TERM DAMAGE TO ONE'S NEUROLOGICAL SYSTEM...AND HAD YOU ACTUALLY GONE INTO CARDIOVASCULAR SURGERY FOR A LIVING, YOU'D PROABLY BE DRIVING A LEXUS RIGHT NOW (JUST IN CASE YOU AREN'T)...///LIKE I'VE TOLD YOU BEFORE, THIS TYPING METHOD CARRIES OVER FROM MY NEWSCASTING DAYS, AND OLD HABIT'S ARE HARD TO BREAK. IN ADDITION, MOST OF MY POST'S ARE GENERATED FROM MY WORK (I SURE HOPE THAT THE "BIG GUY" ISN'T READING THIS), AND I HAVE ABOUT THREE MINUTES MAX TO CRANK THEM OUT. But perhaps I can locate an "UPPER CASE ANNONOMOUS" chapter in my area...REGARDS...STU

By M.McLeanTech (66.218.59.230) on Tuesday, November 26, 2002 - 02:35 am:

Stu,

It was a suggestion for the good of your soul, not a request or a requirement.

Best wishes,

Mike McLean

By Aljaydu (68.18.113.142) on Tuesday, November 26, 2002 - 09:33 pm:

You guys are nuts !!!!! Great Humor. I still can't believe that I'm reading about legends from legends. Totally facinating. Totally. I mean, for instance...Russ...I remember reading on the back of an album by the Four Tops (Back Where I Belong) and the Tops telling Russ to "Keep Hangin'" (there was a song on the album named "Hang" a Temps and Tops Duet) and years later, I'm reading about Russ and the whole family. Wow!!!
For every singer, writer, arranger, producer, engineer, and everyone else that contributed to the world of music, my heartfelt "THANK YOU" to all of you. aljaydu

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Tuesday, November 26, 2002 - 09:55 pm:

Aljaydu,
The pleasure was all ours. The general consensus of all of us that were there is how nice it is to be appreciated after all these years have passed.

By STUBASS (64.12.97.7) on Tuesday, November 26, 2002 - 10:17 pm:

ALJAYDU; WOW! YOU MUST REALLY BE SERIOUS ABOUT "THIS THING OF OURS" TO FIND YOUR WAY TO THE BOTTOM OF *THIS* THREAD! PERHAPS YOU CAN TELL US MORE? WELCOME...STUBASS

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Tuesday, November 26, 2002 - 10:24 pm:

Stu,
THIS THING OF OURS??? Hmmmmm....sounds kind of familiar from my side of the ethnic fence.

By larry (12.141.160.25) on Tuesday, November 26, 2002 - 10:43 pm:

Aljaydu,

Welcome. Yes, it's a treat to hang with all these folks: one's who were *there* and everyone else who's connection is Soul.

OT, Hey Ralph, what's this thing about Ashkenazy?

By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Tuesday, November 26, 2002 - 11:38 pm:

WOOOOOA LARRY; LET'S NOT ALLOW THIS THING TO BREAK DOWN INTO "TRIBAL WARFARE"!!! RALPH: WHAT I REALLY MEANT WAS LA COS/////OOPS...I'M ALREADY IN ENOUGH TROUBLE AROUND HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By STUBASS (205.188.209.38) on Wednesday, November 27, 2002 - 12:26 am:

RALPH; THATS LA COSTA RESORT AND SPA, DOWN IN BEAUTIFUL SAN DIEGO COUNTY. YOOOOOOU...COULD WIN A GLORIOUS AND ROMANTIC WEEKEND FOR TWO......STU

By M.McLeanTech (12.141.160.25) on Wednesday, November 27, 2002 - 12:33 am:

Larry,

Go to SEARCH SITE and search on Ashkenazy. The second thread is TECHNICAL DISCUSSION WITH MIKE MCLEAN.

There you will find the background that you asked about.

Mike McLean

PS: You are sitting here with me as I type this. Now THAT may be a first for the forum. (I'm at Larry's place and using his very nice computer.)

Larry seems to be OK. We have a lot of fun, and there is nothing funny about it, either!

I will type for Larry:

I have been waiting to eat for an hour and a half. Let's go Mike! Do you mind? And thanks for the search tip.

Jesus Christ! Heckle and Jeckle.

Stop it now! Just get out of there!

By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Wednesday, November 27, 2002 - 01:02 am:

THIS IS TOO FREAKIN WEIRD IN LARGE FREAKIN CAPS>>>

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Wednesday, November 27, 2002 - 09:43 am:

Stu,
Is this resort you speak of a " family " run business? Not that I'm a " family man " but I do like to keep thngs in the " family ".

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Wednesday, November 27, 2002 - 02:44 pm:

RALPH; ACTUALLY, IT'S A CORPORATE THING...KINDA LIKE VEGAS WENT SINCE "THE GOOD OLD DAYS". BUT PERHAPS YOU COULD REGISTER UNDER THE "FAMILY PLAN", IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER!!!...STU