By soulie dave uk (62.254.64.5) on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 02:25 am:

Hi All,

Does anyone on here with a lot more knowledge than myself, a humble Motown fan for 37 years know what goodies await to be descovered in the Motown Vaults? Particularly JJ Barnes. The recent Cellarful Cd was awesome, and J J's "TELL ME IT AINT THE TRUTH" is as good as it gets for me. I read some where that JJ stuck it out till his contract ran out, about a year. Then got out as fast as he could. He also says that during this time he was in the studio a lot and recorded some good songs. Wonder if we'll ever get to hear them? Thanks Dave.

By MEL&THEN SOME (195.219.7.72) on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 01:07 pm:

Soulie Dave,thats a good question.I still have various tapes full of (still)unreleased Motown stuff on my hands.Some absolute stompers.The stuff at Motown seems endless regards unreleased stuff.MEL(A complete Motown novice,especially to guys like yourself Dave,with 35 years of experience).

By soulie dave (62.254.64.5) on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 02:08 am:

Hi Mel, back then in the mid 60's we did'nt really know what Motown was, we were just kids attending school disco's, youth clubs, etc. But there was a certain type of record that immediatly hit you between the pop hits of the day and you had to dance, you had to buy what you could at that time. Still in ingnorance you began to notice that your favourate records in your collection tended to be on the same labels. Tamla Motown, Stateside, Atlantic, etc. Youre hooked for life. You hit your 51st birthday and get your wife to buy you Cellarful. Your happy, but still want more! regards Dave.

By Greg C. (209.71.79.200) on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 11:41 am:

Michael Jackson did some tracks with Stevie Wonder. I recall the single entitled, "Buttercup."
I'd love to hear that stuff.

A lot of Mowest stuff was shelved. One project in particular I'd like to hear is the group The Devastating Affair. Saw them in a small club in LA years ago and vocally they were excellent! Motown signed them and released a few singles on them that did nothing. They also did a whole album that was shelved.

By R&B (138.238.41.118) on Wednesday, November 27, 2002 - 04:03 pm:

SPEAKING OF STUFF FROM THE VAULTS,ONE OF THE GREATEST DOOWOP RECORDINGS BY A FEMALE GROUP IS TEARS BY THE SUPREMES DONE IN 1961 WITH{DIG THIS}MARY WILSON ON LEAD,THAT SONG WILL BLOW YOUR HEAD OFF IT IS SO COOL,ONE OF THE EARLY THINGS THEY DID WITH DIANA SINGING IN THE BACKGROUND,VERY RARE ALSO THERE WERE STILL FOUR SUPREMES THEN AND YOU CAN HERE THEIR VOICES LOUD CLEAR.

By P.J. (12.227.35.125) on Wednesday, November 27, 2002 - 06:47 pm:

'The Tears' celebrates 2 anniversaries in December- recorded December 8, 1961; included on the December 20, 2001 Diana Ross & the Supremes Anthology cd.

By Rob Moss (194.66.60.8) on Monday, December 02, 2002 - 03:00 pm:

Hi everyone,
My name is Rob Moss and I run a little record label in the UK called Hayley Records, dedicated to finding and releasing previously unissued soul material mainly from Detroit, but from other major centres too.
So far we've produced 7" vinyl singles on Charles Brimmer,Lyn Varnado (both Clay McMurray productions),Just Brothers, Lorretta Kendrick (strings arranged by Marvin Gaye,Thunderbird Sound and JJ Barnes plus a cd featuring many others.
Feel free to contact me on r.moss@coventry.ac.uk for more details on the label or to have a chat.
Cheers,
Rob

By JSmith (212.39.231.20) on Tuesday, December 03, 2002 - 02:32 am:

Almost everyone who digs into the pile of unissued tracks held in their vaults, goes for the 60's output.
I'm sure there has to be just as many unissued 70's gems locked up in there just gathering dust.

By Rob Moss (194.66.60.56) on Tuesday, December 03, 2002 - 11:06 am:

Hi JSmith,
Interesting point you make because all of the Hayley releases are 70's except the Just Brothers which was from the same session as "Sliced tomatoes" in 1965.

By marc (145.243.194.67) on Tuesday, December 03, 2002 - 01:48 pm:

i think on the sleeve notes of Cellarful they give us a clue about how many good and interesting unreleased stuff they have in the can for the upcoming volume.

I also can not wait. This volume was really awesoem ! regarding JJ Barnes, the version my Martha Reeves of this tune (called "Show Me THe Way"), which actualy saw a release on Gordy is not bad either.

Marc Forrest

By TonyRussi (68.18.34.83) on Tuesday, December 03, 2002 - 02:06 pm:

J.J. Barnes (Tell Me) Ain't It The Truth is a great track...as far as an actual song I prefer the Martha Reeves version as "Show Me The Way".I remeber reading an interview one time with producer Phil Spector & he made a statement that Motown had to be recording tons of material since they had so many hits.As a record buyer in the 60's I can honestly state that a Motown 45 was always worth the money because of the quality B side.Many Motown records were purchased by me before they were ever played on the radio because I knew I would love it.

By soulie dave uk (62.254.64.5) on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 07:32 am:

I did'nt know Martha Reaves had cut that one. Another goodie to keep a look out for. Thanks Guys.

By soulie dave uk (62.254.64.5) on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 03:28 pm:

On closer inspection the Cellarful CD notes mention the Martha Reaves version. Just called at a mates house for a listen to it. Great track.

By John Lester (213.123.141.70) on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 04:11 pm:

From the same Martha album....Ridin' High. Martha does "I'm In Love (And I Know It)".

The Velvelettes do it too..........you have been warned!