By MEL&THEN SOME (195.219.7.56) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 03:08 pm:

Hey Count,I hope you are well,in the last thread on the other forum you promised to tell us about your meeting that time with Marv Johnson in the record shop(I think you said record shop).Any chance of carrying on with it.Many thanks.MEL.

By thecount (64.53.143.173) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 09:50 pm:

Hey Mel I will do that I promise.Glad you have an intrest in the how and abouts.I just got home from our 'KRUISE' NITE AND i'LL i'AM FELLING MY OVERDOSE(OF BREAKFAST OF CHAMPIONS,"COORS",IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.)When the brain is in overdrive, I will do that.I seen something tonight I've never seen before at our "KRUISE NITE",and I still cant get over it.Man,it was so gourgous,her secondarys were out like a bright sun.My mother told me once that if I ever looked at anything bad I would turn to a rock,and I can feel it starting.Talk at you soon.THANX MEL. "COUNT"

By Sue (205.188.209.38) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 11:30 pm:

I'm laughing so hard I can hardly type ...

By MEL&THEN SOME (195.219.7.74) on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 12:07 am:

Cheers Count,I tell you what mate,your one funny guy.MEL.

By M.McLeanTech (66.218.59.230) on Tuesday, November 26, 2002 - 05:16 am:

Sue,

My brain has been in overdrive from time to time (see above,) but I have found myself focusing more and more on you.

I don't use the "Breakfast of Champions," but I like some Becks, now and again.

I loved SITSOM. It was a profound, life altering experience for me.

I worked for Motown for 12 years. I was there every day at the time that all those black and white (no pun intended) pictures (used in the film) were taken.

Until I saw SITSOM, I had no idea what was going on in the Snake Pit. I was living in my own dream world.

Time and again, in color, Fred Sanford would appear on the big screen. I didn't recognise him. Then it would dissolve to an old black and white photo or video/movie of the early 60's when I was right there in the very thick of it.

Fred Sanford would be transformed into Johnny Griffith, Robert White, Earl Van Dike, Eddie Bongo, and Bob Babbitt would become my old pal James Jamerson.

I will never forget the night that my first wife, Karen, and I went over to Benny Benjamin's house to pick up some "boo."

Benny acted like having us as guests was as if he was entertaining the Queen of England (by the way: the queen in power at that time is still in power now) and we both were very greatful.

I wish I could say thankful. At the time we were greatful for his help in scoring a bag. All we really wanted was to show up, pay for and get, the lid, and split.

Benny would no part of it. He had a very beautiful wife, who was utterly attentive and adoring to him. At his request, she cooked up a fantastic order of fried smelts. I was but a callow youth, and typically, I was not interested in food that was not like the food that Mom had prepared that I liked.

I can still picture that moment, as I looked into Bennys eyes, her eyes, and my wife's eyes, and raced my mind to find the solution.

The very idea that I would debate such a situation is unthinkable today.

This was before I did the stereo mix of the "Twisting Kings" album. Now known as the Funk Bros. album!

I have an acetate. To die for, if you are a Funk Brothers fan.

All these years I have loved this acetate.

Now I know why: The funks, under Benny, locked on a groove (established an accurate metronome rate of rhythm) and, because they had such a rapport, which gave each musician a high degree of confidence that "anything goes," they gradually developed a mutual pattern of serving the purpose of being happy, as they each, in turn, expressed their professionalism at being a great musician, based on their experience in Detroit black night clubs, Motown, Etc.

These wonderful works of art would have never come to be if the old South had said: Piss on our beautiful plantation houses I am going to cancel my order with the slave ship, and move to Detroit, Michigan, (Detroit existed as a French trading post long before the first slave was unloaded in the old South) and run for Mayor.

My great grandfather, John Patton, was the Mayor of Detroit in 1858! I am sure that he was a typical Yankee. That meant that he was dead set aganst slavery, and supported the current President Lincoln. Two years later, the civil war broke out.

Suppose that people like my great grandfather had gotten the upper hand from the time of the signing of the Declaration Of Independence, eighty years before. Those slave traders would have been crushed, and you could kiss your Funk Brothers groove goodby!

Thank goodness that my family was preoccupied with classical music. I got my love from my Father, who got it from his Mother, who got it from that Yankee Mayor, her Father, John Patton.

You fans can't win. If the mayor had ignored her education in the musical classics, he would have had time to stop the importing of slaves in the south. Poof. No Motown. Poof. No passionate postings about classical music on the forum which does not exist, because his daughter would not have learned to love Brahms.

Suppose that the Cooleys that built the railroad west of the Rockies had walked off the job and walked down to the southern Atlantic coast and stopped the slave ships. Poof! No Motown.

Suppose that my Dad had worn a condum. Poof! He would have had a big balloon around his balls because I would have never allowed him to prevent me from seeing STANDING IN THE SHADOWS OF MOTOWN!

Love you Sue,

Mike McLean

By Lynn Bruce (64.53.143.164) on Tuesday, November 26, 2002 - 08:17 pm:

Any African-Americans want to go upside his head our should we let it just fade away!LORD HAVE MERCY!!!

By LTLFTC (12.245.225.79) on Tuesday, November 26, 2002 - 08:41 pm:

I'd pay money to watch a documentary consisting of Mike Mclean telling these stories as appropriate pictures pop onto the screen.

Steve K.

By M.McLeanTech (12.141.160.25) on Wednesday, November 27, 2002 - 12:18 am:

Thank you for your appreciative remarks. I just reread my little piece of science fiction about time travel, and the impossibility of changing what has been and what is, and I was pleased with myself.

Your postings show that you appreciated my point.

Sincerely,

Mike McLean

By thecount (64.53.143.173) on Wednesday, November 27, 2002 - 04:47 am:

I'am missing something here,why is this shit on THE COUNT thread?????????????????????
"COUNT"

By Lynn Bruce (64.53.143.164) on Wednesday, November 27, 2002 - 07:02 am:

Count, It shouldn't be and thats the point!!!!

By M.McLeanTech (66.218.59.149) on Wednesday, November 27, 2002 - 12:07 pm:

Dear Count,

It is on your thread because I responded to this sequence:

START PASTE IN

By thecount (64.53.143.173) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 09:50 pm:


Hey Mel I will do that I promise.Glad you have an intrest in the how and abouts.I just got home from our 'KRUISE' NITE AND i'LL i'AM FELLING MY OVERDOSE(OF BREAKFAST OF CHAMPIONS,"COORS",IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.)When the brain is in overdrive, I will do that.I seen something tonight I've never seen before at our "KRUISE NITE",and I still cant get over it.Man,it was so gourgous,her secondarys were out like a bright sun.My mother told me once that if I ever looked at anything bad I would turn to a rock,and I can feel it starting.Talk at you soon.THANX MEL. "COUNT"

By Sue (205.188.209.38) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 11:30 pm:


I'm laughing so hard I can hardly type ...

END PASTE IN

...while I was feeling an overdose of the BREAKFAST OF CHAMPIONS.

That is the straght forward answer to your straght forward question.

Mike McLean

By Lynn Bruce (64.53.143.164) on Thursday, November 28, 2002 - 09:28 am:

Count if you didn,t hear your phone ringing last night,it's because I forgot that we were having people over today and had to get the house squared away. So what am I doing now? Sitting at the computer instead policeing the area and taking care of the rest of the things that have to be done.Oh well I'll just have a sip of the breakfast of champions and get the glow started early.
Have a nice Thanksgiving!!
Lynn

By thecount (64.53.143.173) on Thursday, November 28, 2002 - 10:59 am:

HEY LYNN,I wondered what happened to you last night.I kept telling my cook,I bet thats LYNN not calling,so when the phone was not ringing I kept checking caller ID,I said to my daughter,quick,dont answer it,it's LYNN not calling.Well this is supposed to be music only,as you can see whats been happening here,so i'll get to what I was doing last nite while waiting to hear from you.I've tried to gather some advice here from some well educated and knowledgable folks and master techs here,but been ignored.So why I decited to go into my boxes of JUKE BOX singles of eps, i dont know.I thought why even bother anyone here for what to do,I could be up all night waiting for a respond.Anyhow,these so called,RACK-JOBBERS,45eps,were only getting in the way of the mostly doo-wop collection which is many,as you seen when you were here.Agood friend of mine,Jerry Stills came across these who was a record distributor,and said to put them in my juke box,which I never did,these have 6ix tracks,3hree per side and have some pretty good color picture sleeves,which I'll keep,but as far as the records go,there are about 34 of them,so in the trash they go.Have you ever heard of "CHISA" lables?oh well,thats life on the forum,this might upset some record collectors,but I dont have time to contack the collectors,as I've been ripped before from them on selling a few times and finding out the record was worth many many dollars more.I was only trying to be a nice guy to those who needed them for their obscure collection,as I tried to be as nice as I could be here,with the hopes of helping someone out,but when your questions are ignored,what can you do?This is thanksgiving and I should be thankful for what I have,and I am,but some things just have to go.Lets get together soon,I'am holding 2wo tickets for your daughter for the dance,call me I'll be home all day.HEY,I thought you were retired,but I see you have a job standing in front of the sperm bank telling people,thanks for cuming.Talk to you soon(hey vato) Love,"COUNT".ps.HAPPY THANKSGIVING to you and your famaily,and to all here on the forum.

By Davie Gordon (193.122.21.26) on Thursday, November 28, 2002 - 11:18 am:

Count,

Have you thought of auctioning them on e-bay ?

I haven't tried selling anything myself yet
but I do know friends who have.

Check out the "seller" section at www.ebay.com

Chisa - the label was run by Hugh Masekela and
his partner Stewart Levine. The label started out
as a production company becoming a full fledged label around '67. Motown were their distributors
in the mid-seventies. Most of their releases
tend towards jazz more than soul, the Crusaders
for a start. The main thing with e-bay is to
label the stuff properly so that you reach the people who are interested.

By Lynn Bruce (64.53.143.164) on Sunday, December 01, 2002 - 10:03 am:

Count, tell us about the Latin Counts gig.

I,m going to have to bring that C.D. over for a re-do as the last part is nada,must have been a glitch.

Say Count,I saw this kid with a water jug on your girls porch and asked him why he was standing there. He said someone told him thats where the town pump was.Ooh yea!!

By thecount (64.53.143.173) on Sunday, December 01, 2002 - 12:23 pm:

HEY lynn,THE latin counts GIG WAS KOOL,GREAT BACK-UP BAND AND THE COUNTS WERE SUPERB.I WISH I WOULD OF HAD MORE TICKETS FOR OUR DANCE,BUT I WAS OUT,AND MANY PEOPLE WERE WANTING THEM.Marilynn Bond was there and she will have more books in about 2wo weeks.Thats a pretty kool book and I suggest everyone hop on the order list and get a copy before they"re gone again.The second track on the cd should be alright,but we will check it out.Say man,lookie here,I didn't know your girl was a model,she was modeling for a TOTUEM POLE.
HHHHHHHEEEEEEE-HHHEEE.ANDY said to tell you hello.
See ya soon. "COUNT"

By Ritchie (62.254.0.8) on Sunday, December 01, 2002 - 12:57 pm:

eBay - that's my territory! I've been selling records and CDs on there for almost three years, so if you need any help - I'm the man with all the tricks ;o)

By M.McLeanTech (66.218.59.28) on Monday, December 02, 2002 - 01:21 am:

Dear Count,

I have carefully reread all of the above postings.

I can't make heads nor tales of it.

Is this an indication that I have no soul?

Cordually,

Mike McLean

(Tongue in cheek.)

By Lynn Bruce (64.53.143.164) on Sunday, December 15, 2002 - 12:26 pm:

Count, We had a great time a the Doo-Wop Christmas Dance/Party. Man,you guys in the car clubs purple shirts with the white collars and cuffs with white skinny ties were so sharp it like to cut my eyes.

The Fabulous Oldies band were just that. The lead singer sounded like Jimmy Beaumont of the Skyliners and just about every other singer that he did.

When I got up to sit in with them ,they showed me the list of songs for the set and asked which ones I knew, I just said all of them,just count it off and let me know when you want to end.
It was such a pleasure to have Dave Kovarick,and George Katsakis up there on stage with the bands sax man,what a horn section.

Speaking of George, in Oct. he had open heart surg. and here he is, just a wailin like he's been doing for all these years. It was an honor to be on stage with him.

Dave Kovarick ,you'd better stop practicing as I think your starting to scare a lot of sax players around Detroit who thought they were bad-ass sax players.

Some of the people I saw last night were Lee Allen, Johnny Ginger, Dennis Coffey,Millie, Sue, George Young,Pam Kovarick,and to many more for me to name.

After we left the party(near the end) Dave said why don't we stop in at Jamie Coes club and say hello to him. When we got there it was jammed packed tighter them a fat lady in spandex. Standing room only,but it was nice to say hello to Jamie again.

My daughter Kim and her husband Jim came up from Florida to come to the party and had great time (I think they were laughing at my smooth moves on my wife Sandy on the dance floor)." Eat your hearts out children.

Again Count,you ,Barb and your club know how to throw a great party.THANKS
Let get together so we can Salud and Slainte Va each other a few times before Christmas.

Lynn

By MEL&THEN SOME (195.219.7.2) on Sunday, December 15, 2002 - 01:49 pm:

Lynn,
GREAT PIECE MAN.

By thecount (64.53.143.173) on Sunday, December 15, 2002 - 01:59 pm:

Hey LYNN,it's really thank you,and all the wonderful people and the great lengends performing that made the gig a sucess.
It was so nice to share that unforgetable dance and dinner with all those who supported us
"KONTINENTALS THE DOO-WOP KRUISERS"
We want to express our thanks to you LYNN,great on the tubs,GEORGE "THE KAT",a great horn man,he was probably playing durring his by passes and while in surgery,his performance showed he never left that horn for a minute.DAVID KOVARICK,holy sax shit,what more can we ask for,another cream of the crop horn man,and with the horn player from the group,a great horn section indeed was formed."DENNIS COFFEY",thank you so much for making a a fabulous band a bit more fabulous,I only wish you could of stayed a little longer and performed again,for the band was asking for your presence again after I talked to them,and I sat in on drums on "RUNAWAY",and told the band we needed "MR.COFFEY" to open the song with the guitar licks,as DENNIS was also a very big part of "DEL SHANNONS" CAREER,We totaly understand
DENNIS,and just one song from your guitar playing,makes the nite complete.Again,thank you DENNIS,and am so sorry you had to leave.MILLIE and that DETROIT GAL,SUE,looking as pretty as ever,thank you for being there and was so good to feel the glow in the room when you arrived,much love to both of you,and from all the KONTINENTALS,
thank you,LEE ALAN,JOHNNY GINGER,GEORGE THE "KAT",DENNIS COFFEY,DAVE(blow man blow)KOVARICK,GEORGE YOUNG,(great ELVIS show GEORGE,that poor girl had to go home panty-less),
RON MORRIS,from the original "LARADOS".My only dissapointment was JAMIE COE,the broken promise man,so many fans were also dissapointed with him not showing.Also the hardest working man in show business,GIL BRIDGES,he got a booking in CHILIE,
a few weeks before our gig and had to leave,so many fans asking where is GIL from RARE EARTH?
but they all understood the nature of show business,man could you just imagine the horn section with GIL,and the rest?COME HOME SAFE GIL.
LYNN and SANDY,what a beautiful daughter you have,
so glad they could make the gig comming all the way from FLORIDA,thank you KIM and JIM.
Thanx to all,and have a very MERRY CHRISTMAS and a "KOOL YULE". "COUNT".
ps LYNN,we will for sure get together and share some spirits and SALUD(yea,your mothers moustach)
please also visit our site at -------------
www.kontinentalsthedoowopkruisers.com and sign our guest book THANX

By Lynn Bruce (64.53.143.164) on Sunday, December 15, 2002 - 03:15 pm:

Mel, to bad you don,t live a tad bit closer mate, as you would have been right in your element last night. All the music was classic, the live music and on the bands breaks, the old records.

SLAINTE,LYNN

By MEL&THEN SOME (195.219.7.14) on Sunday, December 15, 2002 - 04:02 pm:

Sounded brilliant lynn,
glad you all had a blast man,
maybe,
one day,
ah well at least I can dream.
All the best Lynn to you and your family man.Have rockin'an Boppin' yuletide mate.
Mel

By Lynn Bruce (64.53.143.164) on Monday, December 16, 2002 - 05:50 pm:

Count, I wonder why Jamie didn,t drop by as his clubs maybe a couple miles away. When Dave K. and I stopped in we just exchanged greetings with him and he had to go up on stage...Think he might have had the dates screwed up? Oh well, a funky good time was had by all.....

Lynn
P.S. I hear your mama does more for Santa Claus on Christmas eve then just pull that sled across the sky!!

By thecount (64.53.143.173) on Monday, December 16, 2002 - 06:25 pm:

HEY LYNN,I was at Jamies Wensday nite and Jamie said I promise you count,Suzie and I will be there only till about 9.30,then have to leave,I said sure,like the last 6 years he promised to come to my house doo-wop party,but never showed,but he does come to our KRUISE nites.I would of been at Jamies after the gig,but we had to stay to klean up and we still jambed till 1.30.
Finally got home at 3:30.I'll call you to let you know when my doo-wop christmas house party is,we want you and Sandy to come.Gil just got back from CHILIE today,and he'll be here for the party also.
ps.Speeking of pulling things,I heard the "DOOBIE BROTHERS" named the song LONG TRAIN after your girl.HE_HHEEEEEEEEE.(hey,I wasn't looking at his neck man) "COUNT"

By PKOVARIK (65.59.47.34) on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 11:50 am:

DEAREST LYNNE,
HOW GREAT IT WAS TO SEE AND HEAR YOU PLAY AGAIN. YOUR RIGHT IT WAS A CLASSIC NIGHT AND YOU HAVE NOT LOST ONE THING. YOUR A CLASSY MAN WHO PLAYS SOME CLASSIC DRUMS. IT WAS SO NICE TO MEET YOUR DAUGHTER, WHAT A CUTIE. JUST LIKE YOUR WIFE. AS I SAID WE MUST MAKE IT A POINT TO GET TOGETHER WHILE DAVE IS OFF.
THANKS LYNN FOR THE WONDERFUL COMPLIMENT ABOUT DAVES PLAYING ABILITIES. IT MEANS A LOT TO HIM. YOUR OPINION THAT IS. IT ALWAYS DID. IT WAS SO GREAT TO HEAR MY LITTLE GREEK BOY ALL WOUND UP. HE IS THE BEST. NOT COUNTING DAVE THAT IS. BUT I AM PREDJUDICE A LITTLE. GEORGE ALWAYS COULD KICK A LOT OF BUTTS ON THAT THING AND A LITTLE THING LIKE OPEN HEART NEVER STOPPED A GOOD GREEK HORN MAN. HE IS MY MAIN SQUEEZE. I WAS WORRIED ABOUT HIM ALL NIGHT BUT HE DID GREAT AS USUAL.
AS FAR AS JAMIE IS CONCERNED, I SPOKE WITH HIM WHEN WE WENT UP THERE AND HE HONESTLY SAID HE WAS TO TIRED TO COME UP. GOOD ANSWER, HE DOES WORK HIS BUTT OFF STILL. HE CONVINCED DAVE TO BRING HIS HORN IN AND DAVE SAT IN FOR A SET. TALK ABOUT BEING COMFORTABLE. THAT IS THE FIRST TIME SINCE DAVE QUIT PLAYING THAT HE ACTUALLY GRABBED HIS AX AND JUMPED RIGHT ON THE STAGE. GEORGE GOT A LITTLE SENTIMENTAL AND WAS VERY EMOTIONAL. IT WAS GREAT TO SEE THOSE TWO TOGETHER ON STAGE AGAIN. I THINK GEORGE THINKS DAVE IS ONE OF HIS CHILDREN. LOL.I TOLD HIM THAT AND HE SAID WELL HE IS. I JUST LAUGHED BECAUSE DAVE IS ALMOST JAMIE'S AGE. HE IS VERY PROUD OF ALL HIS GUYS.THANKS TO THE COUNT VERY MANY PEOPLE HAD A GREAT TIME THAT NIGHT. I WAS SORRY DENNIS AND MILLIE HAD TO LEAVE ALSO. WELL MAYBE YOU CAN ALL JAM ANOTHER TIME. DAVE SAID THE COUNT REALLY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.SO FUN WAS HAD BY ALL.
MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL FROM THE
KOVARIK'S

By Lynn Bruce (65.60.200.153) on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 01:37 pm:

Pam/Dave Kovarik, I can,t tell you how much fun it was Dave, getting back on stage with you and playing again. I wish we could have let the sax & drummer enjoy a paid night off so we could have played together the rest of the night. I thought every band in the world knew "Hand Clappin by Red Prysock. I guess we,re showing what era we,re from. The people missed a treat hearing you blow that song.

Pam, I can see why you guys have been together so long. Not only are you pretty,but your a lot of fun and have a great sense of humor.

Dave, When I get that big picture of us playing in Washington,D.C. fixed up, I,ll call you.It shouldn,t be too many more days.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Pam/Dave (from Sandy) It was great meeting you
Pam and once again seeing you (Dave) after so
many years. We had a great time sitting with you and reminiscing about the ol' days. Looking forward to seeing you again soon.

MERRY CHRISTMAS, Sandy&Lynn Bruce

By P KOVARIK (65.59.47.34) on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 02:22 pm:

DEAR STEVE,
WHAT A FUN TIME WAS HAD BY ALL. IT WAS SO GREAT TO SEE ALL THE GREATS ON THAT STAGE. DAVE HAS BEEN COMPLIMENTING YOU SINCE THAT NIGHT.
YES HAND CLAPPING WOULD HAVE BEEN FUN ALSO. IT WAS FUNNY LYNN AND I WERE SITTING AT THE TABLE AND WE BOTH HEARD A FEW BARS OF HAND CLAPPIN AND WE LOOKED UP AND STARTED TO LAUGH. I SAID LYNN DAVE IS PLAYING HAND CLAPPING AND WE BOTH GOT A REAL CHUCKLE OUT OF IT. OF COURSE MY EARS ARE TRAINED TO DAVES SOUND. SO I KNEW IT WAS HIM, BUT WAS SHOCKED TO HEAR LYNN DID ALSO.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR A FUN NIGHT. ALSO TELL THE COOK WE MUST SIT DOWN SOMEDAY AND HAVE A GOOD TALK. AT ONE TIME I WOULD HAVE WANTED TO ASK WHY SOMEONE WOULD WANT TO BE MARRIED TO A GUY WHO LOVES TO DROP HIS DRAWYERS, BUT I NOW KNOW WHY. YOU ARE ONE OF THE FUNNEST PEOPLE I KNOW. ALSO THE MOST LIKEABLE. BUT ONLY WHEN YOUR PANTS ARE UP. WELL WE WONT GO INTO THAT. KEEP THE DA IN PLACE AND GOD BLESS YOU AND YOURS FOR THE HOLIDAYS THAT ARE QUICKLY COMING UPON US.
GOT YOU A BOTTLE OF BRILLANTINE FOR XMAS.
WHAT DID YOU GET ME????
LOL
PAM AND DAVE

By PAMELA KOVARIK (65.59.32.195) on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 02:40 pm:

DEAR SANDY,
HOW NICE OF YOU TO TAKE THE TIME TO JOT US A NOTE. WE HAD A FUN EVENING AND WERE SO GLAD WE HAD THOUGHT TO SAVE THE SEAT FOR YOU AND LYNN. DAVE THINKS VERY HIGHLY OF LYNN AND I KNOW WHY. IT IS SO NICE TO SE A COUPLE WHO HAS BEEN THROUGH THE MUSIC SCENE AND STILL TOGETHER. ESPECIALLY YOU CAN REALLY SEE HOW MUCH YOU AND LYNN CARE FOR AND ABOUT EACH OTHER.
DAVE HAD SUCH A FUN TIME SITTING IN WITH LYNN AGAIN. HE IS JUST GETTING HIS CHOPS BACK. HE HAS BEEN PRACTICING WITH NICK PALISE AND A FEW OTHER GUYS EVERY SUNDAY. HE STILL LOVES IT AS MUCH AS EVER.HIS STRIVE FOR PERFECTION NEVER CEASES TO AMAZE ME. JUST LIKE LYNN.
WELL HAVE A VERY HAPPY HOLIDAY WITH YOUR FAMILY.
MAY GOD BLESS YOU BOTH,
PAMELA KOVARIK
PS WE ARE LISTED IN THE SOUTH LYON PHONE BOOK.
PLEASE CALL US AFTER CHRISTMAS DAVE IS OFF FOR ABOUT 13 DAYS.
WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO COME OUT.

By thecount (65.60.200.116) on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 06:08 pm:

THANX to you all for the kind words and a special feeling of warm friendship we shared.I am so glad everybody enjoyed themselves and what makes me even happier is you all enjoyed playing with the group.After the gig was over,the whole band said those horn men were the best they have ever had set in with them,like it was a part of the group,everything sounded so good,and the chills I got when I got to play with DAVE and GEORGE.It really was an honor to be up there with such a kick ass band,and with my best friends who are MICHIGANS BEST HORN MEN.I was just getting warmed up and felt so good with DAVE KOVARICK and GEORGE THE KAT,I wanted to do more,but the stage was there for you to have fun and perform,and that was the whole idea of you being there,and the FABULOUS OLDIES BUT GOODIES BAND said,DAMMM,what a perfect nite and were so glad you lengends were there to show them the felling of being a piece of lengends in concert.They hope we will do it exactly the same way again for our next dance.Hope you all agree too. Remember when lets do it again,DENNIS,DAVE,LYNN,GEORGE,Okay?.I will be on vaction from 12-20-02------1-22-03.We can get together at my house for my christmas doo-wop party.Again,thanx so much,you kats made it a sucess.And thank you RALPH for allowing this to be spoken here,and YOU WILL BE HERE FOR NEXT YEARS GIG,OR-ELSE(what size choose do you wear?)
PAM,thanx for the BRILLANTINE for CHRISTMAS.I got you a HICKEY for CHRISTMAS,so I will need to see you before then.Well,I've got to get back to the PIZZELLE IRON,and press out some more PIZZELLES. "COUNT"
P.S.HEY VATO,LYNN,remember those real tight ski pants with the elastic that went under the feet that the girls used to wear? I seen your girlfriend in a pair of them and they were so tight that when she tooted she blew her shoes off.
Hey man,dont answer the phone,even if its me calling.

By Sue (64.12.97.7) on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 06:52 pm:

Count,
I too had a great time at the Kontinentals party -- I had to leave to go to another party later but I was there long enough to enjoy Kontinental hospitality, eat dinner and hear the guy who indeed did a very passable Jimmy Beaumont on "Since I Don't Have You." I have to say, all you guys in Kontinental purple shirts were extremely gentlemanly ...it's something you don't often run into these days!

By thecount (65.60.200.116) on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 08:10 pm:

SUE,I'am glad to hear you were treated well by our members and you were a celebrity that deserves a nite of fun and enjoyment.THANX for those kind words and I'am so glad you could attend and also were a part of making it a success.I wish you could of stayed longer,but I understand,just you being there put much flare in the atmosphere.The band did WAKE UP LITTLE SUZIE,and I would of done SUZIE DARLING for you if you could of stayed.THANX again SUE,it was really an honor having someone as nice and important as you there at the V.I.P. table.Talk to you soon. "COUNT"

By Horse (68.61.77.137) on Tuesday, December 24, 2002 - 12:01 am:

Count,

I missed you up at the Clawson, I asked around and Lynn wasn't there either. Was really looking forward to meeting the both of you. Well, maybe next time.

Horse

By thecount (65.60.200.116) on Tuesday, December 24, 2002 - 03:57 am:

Horse,I'am so sorry about last night.I was on my way out the driveway and right behind me pulls in unexpected company.Lynn also was to come but he got backed-up with things.It pi--ed me off that these people did"nt call,just show up at 9:30.
They said they weren't staying late,11:45,they finially leave,but they did say they were sorry for staying so long.I said thats ok,come on over anytime if you dont mind intruding.
We will see you at the CLAWSON soon.I owe that to GEORGE THE KAT,he did play his ass off at our gig.
ps.Who were you with as a drummer? "COUNT"

By Horse (159.53.32.41) on Tuesday, December 24, 2002 - 11:06 am:

Count,

Completely understandable about company during the holidays. No problem. That kind of stuff happens when your a popular guy! Had a great time at the Clawson. Met George and Gil. Not only were they great players, but great people also! The Kats tone is Right On The Money and Gil is So Smooth. Dennis Coffey was there and sat in....Burnin As Usual. I'm glad I got the chance to meet him. My wife sat in for a tune and had a great time. I only wish there would have been a kit there. Yes, I definitely will be up again. Maybe we can schedule up. I look forward to meeting you and Lynn. I'd love to hear you guys play. I've had the pleasure of playing with some great players on both the national and underground levels. I grew up in the Motor City and was fortunate in being influenced by some the of greatest players as this site mentions. I could not have asked for a more solid musical foundation than what this town has offered. I really appreciate your asking me about my playing, but I don't want to inconvience the thread with my bio. We can talk when we meet. I'm still smiling from your "Marbles In The Snare Drum Tactics". That could have saved me a lot of grief!

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Tuesday, December 24, 2002 - 11:13 am:

Horse,
You would not be inconveniencing this forum by telling us a little about yourself. We would be interested.

By Horse (159.53.32.41) on Tuesday, December 24, 2002 - 11:45 am:

Ralph,

I appreciate your comment. I'm a drummer/vocalist who grew up around Detroit during the early 60'& 70s'. Who could ask for a better era in music. Detroit was making musical history as you know. Yourself, along with others on this forum were all part of it. I played around town with club acts during the early to mid 70s. I spent about seven years on between the Boston/Berkley jazz scene and L.A. I relocated to L.A. in 88 and returned to Detroit in 95. I've been fortunate in playing with Denise Williams, Kirk Whalum, Jimmy Earl, Freddie Washington, Jeff Lorber, Louis Johnson. Orthea Barnes, Norma Jean Bell among others and yes, I was one of Normas' "All Stars" Not all of those situations with the individuals as artist, but different playing situations And I thouroughly enjoyed every minute of it. I'm still active and pursuing the musical venture and enjoying this site! So I guess that's about it. Ok Ralph, I spilled the beans. It's not always the easiest thing talking about ones' self...even though my wife probably hears it all day long!

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Tuesday, December 24, 2002 - 11:51 am:

Thanks Horse. I figured you had a " history " in the business. I've learned from experience that it is the guys that are really good that don't talk about it all that much. I had you figured right pal. Thanks for the bio. You've been a welcome addition to this forum.

By Horse (159.53.238.243) on Tuesday, December 24, 2002 - 12:26 pm:

Ralph,

Thanks for the kind words. But Thank You even more for providing the oportunity to share with this forum. At a time when the industry so intensely attempts to dictate what we music lovers (for lack of a better word) will be enjoying, this forum has given ALL of us the much needed release. It has gifted us with the luxuriuos opportunity of communication through educating, learning and sharing, not only our lifes experiences, but dreams. This is a place where regardless of lifes achievements, race or creed, we are all equal, and made That, through our love of one common thing...Music! Thank you to all involved in this forum.

Horse

By Lynn Bruce (65.60.200.153) on Tuesday, December 24, 2002 - 02:25 pm:

Horse, sorry we couldn,t meet at the Clawson sat. as I wanted to be there to welcome George back. I fell bad about that. Maybe we can all plan a day in the future we could meet there. One tip: you never tell them your there to hear the band and have a drink or they shuttle you to the back of the bar with no view,if it,s dinner time.In the future it,s "yes, of course,we,re having dinner". Maybe you can get Nabay to join us all. Have a Merry Christmas
Lynn

By Horse (159.53.32.41) on Thursday, December 26, 2002 - 11:23 am:

Lynn,

I'm looking forward to it. Throw us (me & Count)some tenative dates for some time after the new year. Actually, we ended up with a pretty good table. Probably because we had dinner. And it was quite fine might I add. I spoke briefly with Nabay last night. I had mentioned meeting George, Gil and Dennis, and also the possibility of meeting youself and Count. I will be talking to him tonight. He was very excited about it. I would love to have Nabay come up to the Clawson, but he's currently living out in the L.A. area. The next time he's in town I'll make sure you guys hook up. How can I reach you offline. Post here. Happy Holidays

Horse

By thecount (65.60.200.116) on Thursday, December 26, 2002 - 03:40 pm:

Hey HORSE,glad you liked my marbles in the snare drum.I'am thinking of doing it with my new set,the bottom skin must be plastic and really tight and a 6inch wide strainer across the skin,top head is CALF SKIN.I hated plastic skins back then and still do today as far as top skins go.I dont know about you,but I sometimes had trouble doing a perfect rim shot when it would count most in a drum break or doing WALK DONT RUN.Here is another thing I came up with in 1962.I went to ROUGE HOBBY shop and got a piece of 7inch long by 3/4inch thick BALSA wood and gluded it, on the left side of the snare skin with good ol ELMERS glue and tight against the chrome hoop,when struck with hickory 1a slingerland sticks a great rim shot or shots was heard and felt.Latter I went with a kar door edge protector and ran it all around the chrome hoop,this was the way of making a even higher hoop for those rim shots.Man,the shit we could come up with.The only other thing I wish they had back then was the battery operated (WOMENS) viboraters they have today,that hiddin in the snare on a plastic bottom skin,wow,eat your heart out "SANDY NELSON"
"COUNT"

By Horse (159.53.32.41) on Thursday, December 26, 2002 - 04:23 pm:

Count,

I think your missing the point! The battery thing was developed with Real skin in mind..!

Horse

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Thursday, December 26, 2002 - 04:34 pm:

Gives paradiddle a whole different meaning huh Horse?

By thecount (65.60.200.116) on Thursday, December 26, 2002 - 05:12 pm:

REAL SKIN? Today how do you know if its real?
Maybe thats why TRAVIS WAMACK recorded "SCRATCHY" back then,he could see a whole new world of silicone comming."COUNT"

RALPH,bring a side dish of EGG PLANT ROLITINI to pass SAT. I wont have time to make any before then
I'am still stuffing the CHEESE RAVIOLLI'S.

By Horse (68.61.77.137) on Thursday, December 26, 2002 - 08:15 pm:

Para something...!