|By Marcel Visser (126.96.36.199) on Monday, October 14, 2002 - 03:34 pm:|
Can somebody tell me more about Detroit singer Carlis Munro? Carlkis recorded one album for Westbound and that´s all I know. Information is more than welcome.
|By Davie Gordon (188.8.131.52) on Monday, October 14, 2002 - 03:50 pm:|
When the Falcons broke up in '63 Robert West of
LuPine brought in another Detroit group to take their place. Carlis was the lead for this version
of the Falcons who had a couple of singles on
Big Wheel - one of them "Standing on Guard" was
a fair sized hit in late '66.
He also recorded as "Sonny Munro" for Epic with
a few singles in the mid - seventies including a
version of Darrell Banks' "Open The Door To Your
I'd have to do a bit of digging to give you more
exact info. The Westbound album was the last I
heard of him.
|By Flynny (184.108.40.206) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 07:46 am:|
Off on a tangent...his name was also used as a "cover up" name for Rosey Jones & The Dynamic Superiors, "All I need is half a chance" on Wickett records! ;-)
|By acooolcat (220.127.116.11) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 09:00 am:|
Carlis "Sonny" Monroe and gang started out as The Ramblers who recorded a disc on Federal and later became The Fabulous Playboys on Daco Records.
As Davie said - they were with Robert West and changed their name to The Falcons, cutting one 45 on Lupine, a great one too - Has It Happened To You Yet.
They then recorded for Big Wheel Records and I think Sonny then had a short stint at Invictus with the loose knit group of 100 % Proof.
He still lives in Detroit and is always looking at getting back into the studio.
|By Davie Gordon (18.104.22.168) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 09:08 am:|
Rosey Jones and the Dynamic Superiors ?? - sounds
like a cover-up itself.
For our US friends "cover ups" are one of the
peculiarities ( among many ) of the rare soul
scene in the UK.
If a DJ has a rare record that's in demand they'll
sometimes give it a fictitious title and artist
credit to throw other DJ's off the track of
getting their own copy of the record
|By MEL&THEN SOME (22.214.171.124) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 10:15 am:|
Hey Graham,couldnt agree more,what a great track Has it happened to you yet is.Personally I dont think there is a bad track on the Big Wheel Label either.MEL.
|By Marilyn (126.96.36.199) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 12:03 pm:|
I'm in touch with Sonny Munro. He was at my last legends concert,& I think he'll be at the Dec. 6th one also.
|By biggray (188.8.131.52) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 12:50 pm:|
So who was lead singer on the Bigwheel 45s,and at what period of time did Joe Stubbs leave the Group.My fav track by the falcons titled Love you like you never been loved B/W Good Good Feeling,Big Wheel#1972!! awesome.
|By Davie Gordon (184.108.40.206) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 02:12 pm:|
Joe Stubbs was in the Falcons from roughly 1958
to late '61 , his place in the group was taken by
Wilson Pickett. He's on the United Artists records
but was gone by the time of "I Found A Love" which
was Wilson on lead.
|By MEL&THEN SOME (220.127.116.11) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 02:32 pm:|
Davie,and what incredible vocals from the wicked picket on the classic I Found A Love.MEL.p.s.What a line up The Falcons had,(Sir)Mack Rice,Eddie Floyd,Wilson Picket,Joe Stubbs.You cant miss with guys like these in your corner.
|By STUBASS (18.104.22.168) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 02:38 pm:|
MEL; (SIR MACK RICE) OF "MUSTANG SALLY" RENOWN...AWESOME...ALTHOUGH MY FAVORITE FALCONS RELEASE WAS THE LATER..."STANDING ON GUARD"...GREAT HARMONY'S.
|By MEL&THEN SOME (22.214.171.124) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 02:51 pm:|
I Like all the Big Wheel stuff,do you know,I Talk Too Much,cant think of the artist,think its Eddie somebody.MEL.
|By biggray (126.96.36.199) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 04:12 pm:|
Here is a few Lupine artists etc to refresh your memorys!! The Corvells, Bennie McCain, Bobby Williams, Betty Lavette, Falcons, Joe Stubbs, Mack Rice,anyone add any more artists.I think Lupine was formed by a guy named Robert West around 1958! the word Lu Pine incidentlly means flower. Who own,s the recording rights now! I do own British compilations of the Lu Pine recordings and their release's are on Speciality and Ember who are owned by Pye Records.
|By MEL&THEN SOME (188.8.131.52) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 04:21 pm:|
Biggray,Sliced Tomatoes by the Just Brothers came out on Lupine records.MEL.
|By David Meikle (184.108.40.206) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 04:24 pm:|
I'd love to have a compilation of LuPine material too. Well said BigGray.
|By Ritchie (220.127.116.11) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 04:28 pm:|
Hang on, Gray - the Ember label was owned by Jeffery Kruger, and Pye handled the UK distribution back then. Speciality was a Kruger subsidiary, and of course had no connection with the US "Specialty" label. In amongst the grot, there were some goodies on Ember, of which I had quite a few - once!
|By STUBASS (18.104.22.168) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 04:29 pm:|
HEY; IS THAT THE SAME "I'M TIRED" AS PERFORMED IN THE MOVIE "BLAZING SADDLES" BY LILLIE VON SCHTUPP???
|By matt (22.214.171.124) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 04:37 pm:|
mel: "i talk too much" is by eddie king. my favorite on big wheel is the falcons' "love look in her eyes"...what a beautiful, haunting song.
lupine relocated to las vegas at some point, as did flick. same owner, right?
|By MEL&THEN SOME (126.96.36.199) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 04:39 pm:|
Come clean Ritchie,I bet you still have the grot(as you so nicely put it)Jim(MEL)Phelps.
|By MEL&THEN SOME (188.8.131.52) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 04:41 pm:|
Nice one Matt,Jesus that was really doing my head in.Thanks mate.MEL.
|By David Meikle (184.108.40.206) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 04:50 pm:|
If you're Mr Fine Wine, how's about playing it on next show?
|By MEL&THEN SOME (220.127.116.11) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 05:49 pm:|
Biggray,other Lupine artists included,The Corvells,The Fourmost,Gene Martin,Ohio Untouchables(Later Players),The Minor Chords,Just Brothers,Eddie Floyd,The Rivals,Mack Rice,Primettes(supremes),Tina Marvel,Betty Lavette,Falcons,(all local series-PrefixL).ATCO/ATLANTIC series,had The Falcons,Corvells,Benny McCain&Ohio Untouchables,Mack Rice,Ohio Untouchables,Falcons,Eddie Floyd.LATER SERIES had The Falcons,Eddie Floyd,The Singing Principle.As far as I can recall the address wasd Lupine Records,4466,Chene,Detroit,7,Michigan.Any in-put appreciated.MEL.p.s.Good to see Mr.Fine Wine on here.
|By Mark Speck (18.104.22.168) on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 01:04 am:|
The Rosey Jones record does exist--there's a scan of it on the Anorak records site.
I'm pretty certain it's a Northern rarity.
|By biggray (22.214.171.124) on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 06:53 am:|
Here is the details of the Lupine recordings i have on Uk Ember/ Speciality.
THE CORVELLS=HE'S SO FINE
THE FALCONS=LONELY NIGHTS
MACK RICE=MY BABY
BENNIE MCCAIN=YOUR ON MY MIND
JOE STUBBS=WHATS MY DESTINY
THE FALCONS=THATS WHAT I AIM TO DO
BOBBY WILLIAMS=TELL IT TO MY FACE
BETTY LAVETTE=WITCHCRAFT IN THE AIR.
MACK RICE=BABY I'M COMIN HOME
BENNIE MCCLAIN=I DONT WANT NO PART TIME LOVE
BETTY LAVETTE=YOU KILLED MY LOVE
THE FALCONS=HAS IT HAPPEND TO YOU YET
BOBY WILLIAMS=I'M DEPENDING ON YOU
JOE STUBBS=KEEP ON LOVIN ME
THE FALCONS=YOU MUST KNOW I LOVE YOU.
The album credit notes are by John Abbey who at the time was the Editor of the Home of the Blues Magazine,he was contacted by Charles Yeats who was the artist and reportoire manager for Speaciality Records to write the sleeve notes for the above Lp. Biggray.
|By Davie Gordon (126.96.36.199) on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 09:13 am:|
I've a CD called "The Original Sound of Detroit"
on Fat Boy, supposedly a Portuguese label.
I haven't done a track by track comparison but
it's essentially the same as the Specialty album.
I picked up the CD about five years ago - it usually crops up in the budget priced sections
in CD stores - the cover's a black and white
photo of the Detroit skyline - quite possibly the
same photo as on the LP but I don't have the LP
Most of the LuPine material as well as a lot of unissued stuff was issued on album around 10 years
ago by Relic - does anyone know if they're still in business ? Seems ages since I heard anything of the label.
|By Mike Theodore (188.8.131.52) on Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 12:03 pm:|
I remember being hired by Pat Meehan to arrange and co-produce Sonny (Carlis Munroe). It was a side job. I did the orchestration etc and the sessions came out good so I made the connect with Armen of Westbound and the project turned into an LP. "I was Made for Love" was released on Westbound/Atlantic Records. The musicans were the hot players of the moment and we did the sessions at Sound Suite Studios in Detroit. It was a good LP but it got lost in the never ending pile.