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David Meikle (david_meikle)
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Post Number: 173
Registered: 3-2004
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Posted on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 7:31 am: ��Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does anyone know what the first or earliest Soul Music cd's were and when they were released?

I didn't start collecting them until 1996!
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the crazy dutchman (andreas)
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Post Number: 40
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Posted on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 10:38 am: ��Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

David, I bought almost every Soul/Funk CD released when the major labels started to push them in 1986 (Soul/Funk compilations we're already released a few years earliyer, but artist albums? Mmmm none that I can think of (and don't be fooled by dates printed on some of the CDs either), Names like, Garry Glenn, Liz Hoque, Mtume, Starpoint, Shalamar comes to mind (even stuff that was released on LP in '82, '83, '84, '85 was re-released on CD that same year, the Stephanie Mills '84 release 'I've Got A Cure is a good example). Over the years, especialy during the early nineties most titles we're re-released on CD 'again' because most labels pressed 500 copies per title ONLY because nobody could afford the CD player at the time. An interesting detail is that you can find bonus tracks (not available on LP or cassette) on the Soul/Funk CD's that we're pressed in the mid to late eighties. Needless to say that some titles are going for stupid money today. I could easily sell my CD copy of RJ's Latest Arrival 'Hold On' and get $1000+ for it today!

The first time I ever saw a Compact Disc was in 1982. If anyone saw or bought a soul/funk/r&b title at the time of the introduction of the CD then I would love to read your comments. The only titles I can remember in '82, '83 we're classical and pop related items.

By the way, what was the first title you bought on CD David?

Best wishes,
Andreas Hellingh
www.TheSoulofAmsterdam.com
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John Barry Sheffield (jaybs)
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Post Number: 39
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The Radio Station I was working for at the time in 1986 started a "CD Show" - and the first CD I got was the "Righteous Brothers" and "Unchained Meldody" souned like it had never sounded before and then I got a "Temptations" CD and I even heard someone clip a michrophone it was so clear.

I then quickly sold my album and single collection, 4,000 + albums and 6,500+ singles as Mom was always comaplining she had lost her home, now I really regret selling some of them.

John
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Wonder B (wonder_b)
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Post Number: 369
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Posted on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 2:37 pm: ��Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey John, for me like other die-hard vinyl freaks, this period was like heaven on earth... LOL
Don't want to make it harder on you than it is already, but I was going around town every month when people where putting the vinyls out in the garbage (over here you're only allowed one day a month to put out anything you want so it made it easier for us!)
And during the yard sales, they were selling them all at 50�... why don't they do that anymore!? LOL

Wonder B
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John Barry Sheffield (jaybs)
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Post Number: 40
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Posted on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 5:25 am: ��Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Wonder B

I know what you mean, I now see some of my album collection go for high prices, I just let them go pennies each, it was just nice to have more space and replace them with CD's - though now I have too many CD's and have run out of space! LOL

John
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Flynny (anoraks_corner)
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Post Number: 65
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I was working for the HMV record chain during the early '80's, and was picking titles off as and when they were released. There wasn't much about 6T's soul wise initially, but obviously later on they started to kick in. I worked for Charly Records from the mid '80's, just as they were deleting off their vinyl, and started to pump out CD releases too. Can also recall early Kent/Ace titles. As already mentioned, additional tracks were usually added to CD releases in order to hopefully persuade buyers to buy another format. It is definitely fair to say that there was a lot of resistance from die-hard vinyl fans to the new format for many a year.
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motownboy (motownboy)
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Post Number: 37
Registered: 4-2004
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Posted on Sunday, May 30, 2004 - 12:22 am: ��Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, in the US, one of the first "Soul/R&B" releases was Michael Jacksons's "Thriller" which was one of the first 20 releases that Columbia/Sony released on CD in late 1983......

The Columbia/Sony were the first titles to be sold officially in the US market even though they were pressed in Japan.....

Titles may have been imported into the US before these, however.....

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Edgar (edgar)
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Post Number: 34
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Not wanting to change the subject of this thread, but it is somehow related... Today I was told that DVDs will be out, as laser discs did, and a new format will be launched instead in the not-so-far future... Will this ever end? Will the same happen to CDs? What to do when your not-in-fashion-anymore equipment breaks? It's a tiresome situation.
For example, I select and obtain movies for the film archive of a non-profit organization. We have movies in many kinds of formats: DVDs, VHS, U-Matic, mini-DVs, Betamax, Betacam, VCDs... Last week one of the two prehistoric Sony Betamax players we have (the best one!) broke. We called Sony Corporation to ask if they could fix it, but they don't anymore, and good technicians like in the old days (those that used to fix the equipments...) are hard to find and have been replaced by those that tell you "Buy a new one".
When I was told that, I imagined myself in 5 or 10 years not knowing what to do with all my music CDs... Will the market become more stable?
I once read an article by Francis Coppola, where he stated that the Pal video system (used in Europe) was better than the one we use (NTSC), but that the companies were always fighting for markets. So we cannot buy a French film in Pal system, because it will not work in our players. And what about those stupid DVDs zones? They do not stop people from copying the movies, and multi-zones DVD players are sold in every shop, so what's the use of those zones... Oh, greed, greed...
In the end I think that these technical decisions are anti-democratic, because they are barriers to the free flow of information, be it music, images or whatever.
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roger (roger)
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Post Number: 81
Registered: 4-2004
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Posted on Tuesday, June 01, 2004 - 5:18 am: ��Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hello Everyone.

I had a look in SHARON DAVIS's book on Motown yesterday and judging from the discography the first Motown C.D. in the U.S. was LIONEL RITCHIE's "Can't Slow Down" in February 1984. The vinyl release of this had been in October 1983.

Over the next two years some Motown L.P.s also got a C.D. release, but it wasn't until 1987 that C.Ds became the norm.

Presumably this was typical of most record companies.

Roger
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David Meikle (david_meikle)
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Post Number: 177
Registered: 3-2004
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Posted on Tuesday, June 01, 2004 - 7:30 am: ��Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Many thanks for your comments folks.

Andreas, the first cd I bought was a �2.99 sampler from Stax. I didn't have a player at the time and waited a couple of weeks to play it.

I caught the bug thereafter and now buy cd's with the fervency that I bought vinyl in the good old days.

My preference is 60's music (all types of Soul). I also listen to some 70's and still love hearing the classic late 70's/early 80's ones like Lamont Dozier/Rockie Robbins/Jerry Bell/Terry Huff etc etc. The latter are vinyl.

I also love early Funk.

(Message edited by david meikle on June 01, 2004)

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