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  PhillyGroove (james_thurman) 1-Arriviste Username: james_thurman Post Number: 1 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 64.12.116.138 |
Hi Group, I'm doing a little armchair research. What does the term "Old School" mean to you? Any definitions and examples would be welcome. Thanks, PhillyG. | ||
Eli (phillysoulman) 6-Zenith Username: phillysoulman Post Number: 411 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.236.57.199 |
For me, it all depends on who is using the phrase and how its said. It could be construed as being negative when used in a context of ageism, or it could be complimentary when used in a context of being compared to great music from back in the day. Personally, I never cared for the phrase. | ||
Kev-Lo (7273747576) 4-Laureate Username: 7273747576 Post Number: 80 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 205.184.163.192 |
Hi this is Kev-Lo hey Philly Groove what's happening My definition of Old School Is growing up in the 60's and 70's when the music was great and you had good times with your family and friends going out to party's and dances and just having a good old time,Woman were more refind and they acted like ladies and men would open the door and pull out a chair for a woman to sit down you also had respect for the elderly.This is just some of the great things that has alot to do with the term Old School | ||
~medusa~ (~medusa) 4-Laureate Username: ~medusa Post Number: 97 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 68.79.165.76 |
When I hear the term 'Old School', it makes me think of an experienced or learned person... | ||
Soulaholic (soulaholic) 4-Laureate Username: soulaholic Post Number: 162 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.41.40.105 |
Hey Paulie: Did the Mack Daddy or the Daddy Mack come first???????????????????????? That is the question that will solve this old school riddle??? | ||
1wicked (1wicked) 3-Pundit Username: 1wicked Post Number: 41 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.126.64.72 |
Old School (music) is a feel...a "sound". It is well crafted lyrics and music heard on radio oh so long ago. It is timeless in nature and the sound that many "artists" of today try to emulate. It is an analog synth in the hands of a true musician instead of digital in the hands of a "technician". It is the "warmth" that made Jeff Lorber pull all of his analog synths out of storage & replace his digital gear. Old School is spending most of your life perfecting your craft, as opposed to becoming a "star" in 12 weeks on a television show. It's "Sandman" Sims...not Paula Abdul. It's recording @ Motown with the Funk Brothers or Sigma with MFSB and real strings & horns....instead of Billy Joe-Bob's bedroom studio, with one guy trying to recreate all of those wonderful instruments. It's Brooks Brothers instead of RocaWear. | ||
Gil (gil) 1-Arriviste Username: gil Post Number: 8 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 192.44.136.113 |
I'm 35, and to me Old School refers to anything pre-1975 or so. When people refer to old school as the 80's, I'm like please! I guess it means music that I can remember, but wasn't old enough to have lived. That's just me. | ||
Wonder B (wonder_b) 5-Doyen Username: wonder_b Post Number: 293 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.50.20.253 |
Old School in rap is everything that was created before the arriving of RUN DMC... The problem being that every new generation considers what was done right before them as old school so it means a different thing according to one's age... I would like to know when you first heard that expression because I had never heard itwhile growing up in the 60's, nor in the 70's or the early 80's... Wonder B If you mess with the 'fro, you gotta go! | ||
Gil (gil) 2-Debutant Username: gil Post Number: 13 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 192.44.136.113 |
As far as music goes, I think I first heard the term used during the late 80's. Before then, I heard it referring to a behavior or attitude...not necessarily music. | ||
roger (roger) 4-Laureate Username: roger Post Number: 71 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.35.87.17 |
Hello everyone. Here in London I've seen posters advertising "Old Skool" events that play "Jungle" and "Drum and Bass" music from the Mid-1990s!! I guess it just means music that is slightly old-fashioned but still "good" if you are into the latest fashions. When I first heard it used in the late-80's it seemed to mean anything more than 5 years old!! Personally I dislike the term and never use it. Roger | ||
Kdubya (paladin) 2-Debutant Username: paladin Post Number: 13 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 206.185.64.23 |
I can't say I've never used the term. I often speak to young people as part of my job so to them I'm Old School and They are young people or New School which sort of boils down to The Temptations & Supremes Vs. 50 cent and Destiny's Child. But to me personaly it can be defined as : R-E-S-P-E-C-T Seems as though our young folks both inside and outside the business have forgotten the meaning of the word. Kdubya | ||
Galactus (galactus) 3-Pundit Username: galactus Post Number: 40 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 207.144.253.114 |
Old school = pre-1983, for me. '83 was about the time I gave up on new music, for the most part......I detect a huge difference in sound between 1979 and 1985.......as opposed to other six year periods such as 1989 and 1995. Music just hasn't been the same for me since '83, due to various changes in sound and style.......... So.....in summary.....Old School = 1948 (or thereabouts)-1983. Like others.....I don't like the phrase. It reeks of "parody" and, somehow, belittles the music itself. (Message edited by galactus on May 20, 2004) | ||
Eli (phillysoulman) 6-Zenith Username: phillysoulman Post Number: 426 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.236.22.200 |
Well put Wicked..I could not have said it any better! | ||
Leo B (leo_b) 2-Debutant Username: leo_b Post Number: 17 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.41.108.65 |
I Heard this quote from a friend who is in his 60's. I ain't old school ... I'm one room school !! Leo B | ||
GOAT (goat) 4-Laureate Username: goat Post Number: 90 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 64.228.135.155 |
It means to me. The "old" way. Without all the pretentious crap of today. Doing things because that's what you did. Take no lip, no sass. You taught what needed to be taught not what was 'in" at the time. Old school, is lessons that you take with you for the rest of your life as it pertains to life. | ||
johneflat (johneflat) 3-Pundit Username: johneflat Post Number: 67 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 205.188.116.138 |
What Goat said........ Old School signifies much more than music;to people from the era (pre-70's) it is values and attitudes as well.......the music was a reflection of these..... | ||
Sudi Kamau (sudi_kamau) 3-Pundit Username: sudi_kamau Post Number: 62 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.117.198.35 |
If you have to ask what Old School is, or if you don't know the difference between "Old School" and "THE Old School," you're definitely not Old School. | ||
johneflat (johneflat) 3-Pundit Username: johneflat Post Number: 69 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 205.188.116.138 |
case in point: you DON'T CALL A WOMAN A B---- or a HO in PRIVATE, let alone on a recording! | ||
Carl Dixon (carl_dixon) 2-Debutant Username: carl_dixon Post Number: 25 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 82.44.203.80 |
Old school to me is 'respect' and time has earned it. Well crafted songs that have outlived others to be on a pedastal. Even though not familiar, the song stands out above the rest when heard. However, I certainly would never discount new talent, just because they appear on a talent show or indeed a bedroom studio, as I am sure there are many talented people creating electronically these days, within them. | ||
S.R. (fury13) 1-Arriviste Username: fury13 Post Number: 8 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 12.2.196.4 |
Old school = pre-'65. ;) | ||
Destruction (destruction) 2-Debutant Username: destruction Post Number: 27 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 199.173.225.21 |
Old school means my dress shoes cost more than my sneakers. | ||
Wonder B (wonder_b) 5-Doyen Username: wonder_b Post Number: 307 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.51.160.191 |
johneflat and Destruction I am settling for your definitions LOL... This is old school CLASS! Wonder B If you mess with the 'fro, you gotta go! | ||
Don (don) 5-Doyen Username: don Post Number: 175 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.180.238 |
Hello Philly Groove, Old School is just a slang term being used by Hip Hop and by the younger youth in general. I think basically it is a desription being deemed as someone being from an older generation or an parent (If they only knew). Some may use the term out of respect other times out of disrespect. It could mean a person, a place or thing. If this term mean something negitive, then when a youngin' is getting older and wiser, I assume, then doesn't that make them Old School after awhile? | ||
johneflat (johneflat) 4-Laureate Username: johneflat Post Number: 73 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 205.188.116.138 |
well....to me old school means LEARNING when you're YOUNG the lessons you need, that plus what they call MOTHER WIT (common sense)will help you survive to be OLD! | ||
Sudi Kamau (sudi_kamau) 3-Pundit Username: sudi_kamau Post Number: 64 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 4.224.21.108 |
These young Hip Hop punks appropriated the term "Old School", but I remember people with a past in real music using the term to refer to the music of their halcyon years. And "THE Old School" is what Old FOLKS would tell you they were from when they were about to beat you "natural black ass" for some indiscretion or otherwise set the record straight on something. | ||
johneflat (johneflat) 4-Laureate Username: johneflat Post Number: 74 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 64.12.116.83 |
There ya go Sudi, Old School was what sociologists call a PARAGIGM (i think),people, places, events, attitudes, values AND music and any 1 of these can bring memories flooding back of all the others, to relate to you have to have done 2 things, lived it and then live to remember it. Younger people now only know about the music, but Old School is much more. | ||
Sudi Kamau (sudi_kamau) 3-Pundit Username: sudi_kamau Post Number: 66 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 172.142.84.95 |
Amen, johneflat. | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 5-Doyen Username: robb_k Post Number: 271 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.81.24.19 |
I agree. It's the way we used to do it in the "good old days", before the World went to pot (no double entendre intended). Also I'm poking fun at myself and all my generation of old-timers. As I've been out of the Music Business since 1984-and haven't listened to any new music, nor talked to anyone about music (until discovering SD a few months ago), I don't know how the term "Old School" applies especially to music production. | ||
johneflat (johneflat) 4-Laureate Username: johneflat Post Number: 75 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 64.12.116.138 |
From what I can gather, the gen X and gen Y folks are using this term to describe music between 1970 and 1980. As you can see, they're missing a lot. | ||
Satipe (satipe) 2-Debutant Username: satipe Post Number: 12 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.50.137.38 |
Old school is playing a record and having it skip after you played it too much. As well, it was your Mother telling you to turn the music down with another lecture about "you should be studying and not listening to music." | ||
Rasputin (rasputin) 1-Arriviste Username: rasputin Post Number: 5 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 152.163.252.200 |
Old SKool predated Motown, Stax, etc. called the music machines. Old Skool featured the '50s and real late '40s tunes .... The Orioles, Flamingos, Platters, "Blues" etc. Then came the Music Machine assembly line era of Motown, Stax, Philly; then on to Disco .... can't call anything after that whatever, but a hodge-podge of covers ..... a real un-creative time. It seems that the term has been co-opted by youngsters to mean anything older than them .... Go figure!! $.02 atcha ..... from an Old Skooler |
