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  Robb_K (robb_k) 6-Zenith Username: robb_k Post Number: 600 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.81.177.121 |
A friend of mine just told me he saw aMacictones 45 on E-Bay that sold for $999.00. He asked me what it sounded like. I don't have it, never have seen it, and never saw it listed or heard of it. Does anybody here know of it, and can describe it and discuss credits? (Ron, Davie, Heikki, John, Mel, anyone????) | ||
C Bell/Eric (c_belleric) 3-Pundit Username: c_belleric Post Number: 48 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 4.165.48.169 |
I believe those tracks are also on the MAH'S records. The Solid Hit record must be pretty rare though. | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 6-Zenith Username: robb_k Post Number: 602 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.81.177.121 |
Eric: What Mah's Record were they on. Were they re-issues of earlier Mah's releases. The latest Mah's releases I know of were 1037 and 1038, distributed by Ric Tic in late 1965 or very early 1966 (ZTSC 127300). The Solid hit release had to be later in late 1966 or 1967. | ||
C Bell/Eric (c_belleric) 3-Pundit Username: c_belleric Post Number: 49 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 4.165.48.169 |
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C Bell/Eric (c_belleric) 3-Pundit Username: c_belleric Post Number: 50 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 4.165.48.169 |
I've posted one of the sides. I believe this was the first issue flipside of "Together We Shall Overcome". When it became a hit and needed a repress is probably when the flipside was changed. I don't have the other one with me right now. I'm pretty sure it's on one of those styrene MAH'S records. | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 6-Zenith Username: robb_k Post Number: 604 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.81.177.121 |
Thanks, Eric. The other 1037 had "It's Better To Love" on the flip. The writers on "Fun To Be Young" are similar to those who wrote for the group on Ram-Brock. Are P. Willis and C.Stephenson members of the Magictones? I still wonder what era in Solid Hit the record was. Was it after 113? Was it a later series? I've never seen a later series. Was it a resurrection of the label, as in "Stompin' Crazy Legs" by Modern Times on Golden World? | ||
Iris Smith (hellostranger) 2-Debutant Username: hellostranger Post Number: 16 Registered: 9-2004 Posted From: 68.76.87.24 |
What do the numbers mean, I have "there is nothing better than love" (see attatchment) Iris | ||
Soulaholic (soulaholic) 6-Zenith Username: soulaholic Post Number: 468 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.43.212.143 |
The sad thing is I have found Magic Tones grooves in my searching and have piked up a couple of them for a couple of dollars at the most. | ||
Iris Smith (hellostranger) 2-Debutant Username: hellostranger Post Number: 18 Registered: 9-2004 Posted From: 68.76.87.24 |
okay, I can't upload, don't know how. the numbers on my 45 are M-1038 distrubted by Ric tic Records Detroit Iris | ||
Davie Gordon (davie_gordon) 5-Doyen Username: davie_gordon Post Number: 256 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.157.119.40 |
Here's what info. I have on the later Mah's releases 1037 THE MAGICTONES (04/68) TOGETHER WE SHALL OVERCOME FUN TO BE YOUNG first local issue M-1037 THE MAGICTONES (05/68) TOGETHER WE SHALL OVERCOME (ZTSC127298) IT'S BETTER TO LOVE (ZTSC127299) this is the second issue - distributed by Ric-Tic M-1038 THE MAGICTONES (08/68?) LET'S LET OUR LOVE ROLL ON (ZTSC127474) THERE IS NOTHING BETTER THAN LOVE (ZTSC127475) dist. Ric-Tic P Willis = Paul Willis C Stephenson = Calvin Stephenson (AKA Calvin Stevens) Calvin was a member of the Magic Tones and would go on with the other group members to team up with Joe Harris as the second version of the Undisputed Truth. I'm not sure if Paul Willis was actually a member of the group but he was involved in writing and producing the Magic Tones' singles on Ram-Brock (1968) and Westbound (1968-1971) I didn't see the e-bay disc - did anybody manage to get a scan ? Could it be Solid Hit 108 ? Robb your ZTSC dates are a good bit out - all the numbers starting ZTSC127xxx are from '68 126834 Fantastic Four (RicTic 136) 12/67 127037 Parliaments (Revilot 214) 01/68 127073 J J Barnes (Revilot 216) 02/68 127217 Parliaments (Revilot 217) 03/68 127252 Fantastic Four (RicTic 139) 05/68 127434 Parliaments (Revilot 223) 06/68 Iris, sorry, I don't have time at this minute to explain fully what the numbers mean - I'll try td do so tomorrow if nobody else does it meantime. davie | ||
Tony.C. (tonyc) 3-Pundit Username: tonyc Post Number: 65 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 195.93.33.7 |
THE Other Magictones release on Solid Hit---It,s Better to love/Together We Shall Overcome is on Solid Hit 108(the number before the super rare Pat Lewis--No One ToLove)and i believe has only turned up in the last 2 yrs---1 copy---as opposed to the easily availible Mah,s copy of same record. LOVE AND STUFF TO ALL. TONY.C. | ||
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 5-Doyen Username: acooolcat Post Number: 235 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.226 |
Hi Robb, As Tony says, the two songs on Solid Hit 108 are the original versions - they were later released on MAH'S. Some info of the group will be included in the next part of Mike Hanks' story. Here are some details for fellow anoraks: Solid Hit 108 Magic Tones Fun To Be Young - ZTSC 126447 It's Better To Love (And Lose Than Not To Love At All) - ZTSC 126448 It was released in 1967. | ||
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 5-Doyen Username: acooolcat Post Number: 236 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.226 |
BTW - I think "Fun To Be Young" is a fantastic song. | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 6-Zenith Username: robb_k Post Number: 605 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.81.192.190 |
"It's Better To Love" on Solid Hit was ZTSC 126448, and later on Ric Tic -distributed Mah's was 12799. That means that the later version was a rerecording, otherwise they would have used the original number with the later pressing. So, it was the reconstituted post 1st Motown Buyout Ric Tic that distributed Mah's. And, late Ric Tic was operating concurrently with Lebaron Taylor's Solid Hitbound labels. So, Graham, I'm slowly building up a group of recordings I'd like to get on CD or tape -the newly-discovered J.J. Barnes cuts from his Ring session (Fred Brown/Joe Hunter), "Fun To Be Young"-Magictones, and a couple of recently discovered previously released Motown recordings. | ||
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 5-Doyen Username: acooolcat Post Number: 237 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.226 |
Robb I haven't heard the Solid Hit versions but I'm 99.9% sure they'll be the same as the ones on MAH'S. These two songs were put on the flips of "Together We Shall Overcome" as it was initially a rush release. Ric-Tic then distributed it. Its story is explained by one of The Magic Tones: Doc. | ||
count (the_count) 4-Laureate Username: the_count Post Number: 114 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 69.14.197.239 |
Will find my others for sure, going to take some time but i know i've got them.  "COUNT" | ||
count (the_count) 4-Laureate Username: the_count Post Number: 115 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 69.14.197.239 |
"COUNT"  | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 6-Zenith Username: robb_k Post Number: 609 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.81.179.11 |
Graham: It's been my experience, that when a song pressed at Columbia (Midwest)was pressed THERE again, for a later issue (often as long as 2 years later), they used the original stampers, and therefore, the re-issue had the original ZTSC number. Why didn't that happen in this case? | ||
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 5-Doyen Username: acooolcat Post Number: 238 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.226 |
I've no idea, Robb. The reason I say (guess) they are the same recordings is that "It's Better To Love" does sound earlier than 1968. Don't you think? BTW - That Ric-Tic-MAH'S pressing also sounds a bit muffled. | ||
Davie Gordon (davie_gordon) 5-Doyen Username: davie_gordon Post Number: 257 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.157.156.120 |
Robb, Graham I doubt we'll ever know the full ins and outs of this one but I have a theory. Fistly I'm inclined to agree to Graham that the Solid Hit and Mah's tracks are one and the same but without hearing both it's all conjecture and I think you're jumping the gun a bit, Robb, in more or less stating as a FACT that the Mah's issue is a re-recording. It looks to me as if LeBaron Taylor had financial problems in the spring of 1968 - I think he probably owed money to Columbia for pressing bills and as a stop gap measure gave the tapes of the MagicTones to Mike Hanks to try to get a release out to raise some cash. Robb, in general I agree with you about Columbia using their original matrix numbers when re-relasing tracks. A good example is Anthony Raye's "Give Me One More Chance" first issue - Impact 1009 (c. 06/66) ZTSC107896 GIVE ME ONE MORE CHANCE ZTSC107897 ON THE EDGE OF SORROW reused as the b-side of Imapct 1030 (c. 08/67) ZTSC125852 HOLD ON TO WHAT YOU GOT ZTSC107896 GIVE ME ONE MORE CHANCE Now in this case Columbia's customer was Harry Balk for both issues - it could well be that the use of the matrix number again was something to do with Columbia's accounting practices Now let's look at what was going on at Revilot / Solid Hit in the spring of of '68 LeBaron had been using Columbia to press all the releases on Revilot from the first issue (201- Darrell Banks) in June '66 through to 218 (J J Barnes) in March '68 It'll become clearer if you follow the trail of matrix numbers ZTSC127217 Revilot 217 The Parliaments (03/68) ZTSC127227 Revilot 218 J.J. Barnes ZTSC127238 Solid Hit 111 The LeBaron Strings ZTSC127298 Mah's M-1037 The Magic Tones (05/68) ZTSC127430 Revilot 222 J J Barnes (06/68) ZTSC127434 Revilot 223 The Parliaments (06/68) ZTSC127474 Mah's M-1038 The MagicTones (07/68?) Revilot singles 219 to 221 shouild have turned up somewhere in that incomplete sequence - as far as I know they were never released - my guess is that Columbia refused to press up any records for Revilot / Solid Hit until they had some payment. LeBaron probably gave the tapes of the Magic Tones to Mike Hanks who arranged an initial pressing run (Mah's 1037 with "Fun To Be Young" on the b-side) pressed by, I think, Sheldon in Chicago. The record musyt have shown enough signs of selling well for a deal to be done between Mike Hanks and Ed Wingate to take over pressing and distribution through Ric-Tic. That's where the Columbia pressings on Mah's with a new marix number come into it - the new numbers being assigned because Columbia's customer this time round was Ed Wingate not LeBaron Taylor. Columbia's pressing division was first and foremost a business - I doubt anybody knew or cared that the same tracks had been pressed up by them nine months or so earlier on Solid Hit rather than Ric-Tic. They'd be happy as long as they had somebody they could bill with the expectation of being paid. Revilot 223 and Solid Hit 111 were the last of LeBaron Taylor's labels' reelases to be pressed by Columbia - all subsequent reelases were done by another firm and thsoe later releases involved recycling of backing tracks of older releases. The LeBaron Strings release on Solid Hit 111 was the backing track to J J Barnes b-side from Revilot 218. The b-side of Revilot 222 (J J Barnes) ws the backing track to a ten month old Parliaments' single The b-side of the Holidays on Revilot 226 was the backing track to the b-side of J J Barnes' Revilot 218 single - which just happens to have been used again as the A-side of Solid Hit 111 this time credited to The LeBaron strings If LEbaron Taylor had the money to re-record the Magic Tones I, for one, would be extremely surprised - frankly it looks to me that at the time he was oprating his labels on less than a shoestring. OK - a bit long winded - but the theory holds upo for me. Davie. Nearly forgot - I'd estimate the release date of Solid Hit 108 as August 67. | ||
Raymond Ennifer (benlynx) 3-Pundit Username: benlynx Post Number: 64 Registered: 8-2004 Posted From: 81.76.57.143 |
Solid Hit Releases Solid Hit 101 A Pat Lewis Look At What I Almost Missed Oct-66 Solid Hit 101 B Pat Lewis No Baby, No Oct-66 Solid Hit 102 A Debonaires Loving You Takes All My Time 1966 Solid Hit 102 B Debonaires Headache In My Heart 1966 Also released on Solid Hit 104-B. Solid Hit 103 A Jimmy Gilford I Wanna Be Your Baby 1966 Solid Hit 103 B Jimmy Gilford Heartbreaker 1966 Solid Hit 104 A Debonaires I'm In Love Again Jan-67 Solid Hit 104 B Debonaires Headache In My Heart Jan-67 Previously issued on Solid Hit 102-B. Solid Hit 105 A Pat Lewis Warning 1967 Solid Hit 105 B Pat Lewis I'll Wait 1967 Also issued by Parliaments on Revilot 228-B and Atco 45-6675-B. Solid Hit 106 A Johnny Goode Payback 1967 Solid Hit 106 B Johnny Goode Payback (Instrumental) 1967 Solid Hit 107 A Benny Poole Pearly Baby Pearl (Latin Boo-Ga Loo) 1967 Solid Hit 107 B Benny Poole Sorry 'Bout That 1967 Solid Hit 108 A Magic Tones Fun To Be Young 1967 Solid Hit 108 B Magic Tones It's Better To Love (And Lose Than Not To Love At All) 1967 Unissued. B-side released on Mah's 1037-B as "It's Better To Love) Solid Hit 109 A Pat Lewis (I Owe You) Something 1967 Instrumental version released on Solid Hit 112-B as Baby I Owe You Something (Instrumental). Solid Hit 109 B Pat Lewis No One To Love 1967 Solid Hit 110 A The Fellows Let's Make It Last 1967 Solid Hit 110 B The Fellows She's Always There 1967 Solid Hit 111 A Le Baron Strings I'll Keep Coming Back 1967 Also released by The Holidays on Revilot 226-B.. Vocal version released by J.J. Barnes on Revilot 218-B. Solid Hit 111 B Le Baron Strings Now She's Gone 1967 Also released on Revilot 225-B. Vocal version released by J.J. Barnes on Revilot 216-A. Solid Hit 112 A Pat Lewis The Loser 1967 Solid Hit 112 B Pat Lewis Baby I Owe You Something (Instrumental) 1967 Vocal version released on Solid Hit 109-A as (I Owe You) Something. Johnny Goode is really Sidney Barnes. The mixes on 108 are diferent to their relevant Mah's label releases. Mah Releases MAH'S 0001A The Egyptians Inkster Boogie MAH'S 0001B The Egyptians The Party Stomp MAH'S 0002A Billy Kent & Andantes Take All Of Me MAH'S 0002B Billy Kent & Andantes Your Love MAH'S 0003A Mike A Hanks The Hawk MAH'S 0003B Mike A Hanks When The Love Comes To Be MAH'S 0004A Mike Hanks I Think About You Part 1 MAH'S 0004B Mike Hanks I Think About You Part 2 MAH'S 0005A Jimmy Green Hey Little Girl MAH'S 0005B Jimmy Green A Girl Like Mine MAH'S 0006A Mike Hanks J.F.K. MAH'S 0006B Mike Hanks Doesn't Exist MAH'S 0007A Lawrence Falkcon & The Sounds My Girl And My Friend MAH'S 0007B Lawrence Falkcon & The Sounds Why Should We Hide Our Love MAH'S 0008A Leaping Flames Dance Social MAH'S 0008B Leaping Flames Spider Spider MAH'S 0009A Lee Rogers Troubles MAH'S 0009B Lee Rogers Walk On By MAH'S 0010A Big Jack Reynolds Made It Up In Your Mind MAH'S 0010B Big Jack Reynolds You Don't Treat Me Right MAH'S 0011A Dion Heart Miss V.I.P. MAH'S 0011B Dion Heart Just Say You Care MAH'S 0015A The Royal Ravens Grand Spanish Lady MAH'S 0015B The Royal Ravens MAH'S 1014A Mike Hanks J.F.K. Part 1 MAH'S 1014B Mike Hanks J.F.K. Part 2 MAH'S 1037A The Magic Tones Together We Shall Overcome MAH'S 1037B The Magic Tones Fun To Be Young MAH'S M1037A The Magic Tones Together We Shall Overcome MAH'S M1037B The Magic Tones It's Better To Love MAH'S M1038A The Magic Tones Let's Let Our Love Roll On MAH'S M1038B The Magic Tones There Is Nothing Better Than Love | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 6-Zenith Username: robb_k Post Number: 610 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.81.23.62 |
Thanks Davie and Raymond. Davie, your theory regarding Columbia's not using the same master number is sound and very reasonable. It stands to reason that if a DIFFERENT customer submitted the recodings for pressing up, new numbers would be assigned, for accounting reasons. That's something I hadn't thought of. And thanks for the chronological history. I had always wondered about the relationships between Hanks, Taylor and Wingate during that period. I couldn't figure out why, at that late date, Hanks was working with Wingate, rather than Taylor. Now I know why. | ||
Davie Gordon (davie_gordon) 5-Doyen Username: davie_gordon Post Number: 258 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.157.156.120 |
Just noticed that Eric's scan of "Fun To Be Young" shows Ed Wingate's Myto Music as the publisher - maybe Ed fronted the money for the first pressing on MAH's in exchange for the publishing. I find trying to figure out these relationships fascinating - you'd never guess Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was one of my favourite authors when I was at school :-) Davie | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 6-Zenith Username: robb_k Post Number: 613 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.81.23.62 |
That seems rather likely. Ed always had money, and both Taylor and Hanks were always scrounging around for it. | ||
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 5-Doyen Username: acooolcat Post Number: 239 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.226 |
Hi Raymond How do you know that Solid Hit 108 is a different mix - have you heard it? I note you have the Leaping Flames's 45 for MAH'S 000.8. I don't think that's right. Have you got/seen a copy? | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 6-Zenith Username: robb_k Post Number: 619 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.81.200.65 |
Hi Graham. The Leaping Flames is and always has been Mah's 000.8. I thought I also saw YOU listing it as that number? By the way, the friend who told me about the Magictones' Solid Hit on e-Bay, says that the seller noted that there are 3 known copies. | ||
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 5-Doyen Username: acooolcat Post Number: 240 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 203.69.208.7 |
Hi Raymond. My questions look rather curt, which was unintentional. Sorry about that. | ||
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 5-Doyen Username: acooolcat Post Number: 241 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 203.69.208.7 |
Hi Davie I concure with a lot of what you say but offer a few notes based on interviews I've done with one of the doctors who owned Rambrock records and one of the Magic Tones: Dr Brockington told me that the Magic Tones' 45 on Rambrock was released in 67, just afer the riots on July. He then spent money on the groups' uniforms, but they said they wanted to join Mr. Wingate. Dr Brockington was pissed off about it and called Mr. Wingate to tell him so - he was his family doctor. Although Mr. Wingage took the group he assured Dr Bockington he wouldn't do anything with them. I asked Calvin (Magic Tones) about all this but he couldn't remember any details. He didn't know the 45 came out on Solid Hit. "Together We Shall Overcome" was recorded the day before Dr. Martin Luther King was shot in April 68. Calvin recalled that he phoned Mike Hanks to tell him that the song would be right for the situation amd Mike released it on MAH'S - it was pressed at Archer. I imagine the group were still signed to Mr Wingate at the time, so I can only guess as to why they phoned Mike about the song. It was a rush released and sold well in Detroit, and a few months later Mr. Wingate put it out (on MAH'S) with a different flip. Obviously the group hadn't got anything else in the can. The fact they have different ZTSC numbers could be because the songs had previously been pressed at Archer - after the Solid Hit 45. | ||
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 5-Doyen Username: acooolcat Post Number: 242 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 203.69.208.7 |
PS: Some more info on these songs is going to be included in the next part of the Mike Hanks Story. | ||
cudaus1 (cudaus1) 2-Debutant Username: cudaus1 Post Number: 14 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.51.243.6 |
Does anyone know who the core musicians were that played on Together We Shall Overcome were? | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 6-Zenith Username: robb_k Post Number: 627 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.81.31.36 |
Thanks, Graham. | ||
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 5-Doyen Username: acooolcat Post Number: 243 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.229 |
Hi Robb I'm home from work now, so I can check my files. I meant MAH'S 000.6 (not 000.8) and see that Raymond has that as non-existant - sort of. MAH'S 000.6 was released on the MRC label. Label discographies will be included in the third part of the Mike Hanks Story. | ||
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 5-Doyen Username: acooolcat Post Number: 244 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.226 |
Robb, maybe you can help me. I think the reason I had MAH'S 000.8 in my head was because it's the only 45 that I don't have the master numbers for. Do you know what they are? | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 6-Zenith Username: robb_k Post Number: 628 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 204.108.65.10 |
Hi Graham. I seem to remember seeing Mike Hanks' J.F.K. on Mah's 000.6 years ago, but not positive it wasn't 0014. I have the 0014 version. Unfortunately, I'm not back in USA yet, so can't provide the master numbers for 000.8. I'll send those to you after I return in a few weeks. | ||
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 5-Doyen Username: acooolcat Post Number: 245 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.226 |
Great, Rob Let me know where to send the CD to. I'm sorry I can't let you have J.J.'s track as I have that on condition from Ace/Kent. | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 6-Zenith Username: robb_k Post Number: 629 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.81.180.109 |
Graham, Davie and everyone: I read on Anorak's Corner, that the person that bought the 2 copies of the Magictones on Solid Hit, bought them from a Detroiter who had had connections with Solid Hit in the old days. Further, he stated that the takes of "It's Better To Love", AND the flip,had DIFFERENT mixes from the Mah's Record, and the vocals were also DIFFERENT TAKES!!! The Background tracks "had an extra brass section in it". The vocals were NOT the same takes! It was reviewed in "Shades of Soul" #31. The buyer was "Irish Greg".I have no idea what his last name is, but he must be known in Northern Soul circles. He sold David Flynn (owner of Anorak's Corner) the second copy. (Message edited by Robb_K on October 11, 2004) | ||
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 5-Doyen Username: acooolcat Post Number: 246 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.226 |
Thanks, Robb. I wonder how we can get to hear that one? | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 6-Zenith Username: robb_k Post Number: 638 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.81.193.227 |
Graham: Dave Flynn has the 2nd copy of The Magictones' Solid Hitbound record. Maybe you can swap CD's of rare Detroit sounds with him, and get it that way. His e-mail address is: <soul@itsbest45.freeserve.co.uk> You can read his story of how the records were found at: http://capitolsoulclub.homeste ad.com If I can't get the "newly discovered" J.J. Barnes Ring recording on CD yet, no hurry to get those few other things. I'll just wait until the commercial CD with it on is out. Robb | ||
Flynny (anoraks_corner) 4-Laureate Username: anoraks_corner Post Number: 75 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 211.121.37.108 |
Did somebody call me?!  If you wanna hear the Solid Hit version, then I included it within a radio set I recorded for a Japanese website recently...go here: http://www.capitolsoulclub.hom estead.com/RadioShowSoul45.htm l ...and the piece I wrote about the 45 in question can be read here: http://www.capitolsoulclub.hom estead.com/DiscReviewsSOS32.ht ml By the way, the copy that went on ebay had the same hand writting on it as my friend's copy of Pat Lewis! Enjoy. David www.raresoulforum.co.uk (-ps That Freeserve address stated in the previous mail is dead...please don't use anymore.) (Message edited by Anoraks_corner on October 12, 2004) | ||
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 5-Doyen Username: acooolcat Post Number: 247 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.226 |
Many thanks, Flynny. Any chance of label scans here? I wonder about the writer/production credits: Are they the same as the MAH'S' versions? | ||
Davie Gordon (davie_gordon) 5-Doyen Username: davie_gordon Post Number: 263 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.157.153.40 |
Dave, Robb, Graham Thanks for the additional info - never-endingly complicated isn't it. Oh well, that's my carefully constructed theory out the window - b****r ! LOL Davie | ||
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 5-Doyen Username: acooolcat Post Number: 248 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.226 |
Flynny What about the other side on Solid Hit - is it also different from the one on MAH'S? | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 6-Zenith Username: robb_k Post Number: 643 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.81.26.240 |
Graham: The way I read Flynny's review on The Solid Hit Record, I understood that BOTH SIDES were re-recordings (e.g. new vocals and the added brass section into the background mix). Did I understand that correctly, Flynny? | ||
Flynny (anoraks_corner) 4-Laureate Username: anoraks_corner Post Number: 76 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.197.221.28 |
Did a quick comparison last night, and apart from the fact that both sides of the Solid Hit release are waaaaay superior in sound/recording quality than their compressed/dull Mahs counterparts, here's what I found...'er, heard: IBTL: brass and different vocal take. FTBY: additional string section...but minus the organ, as featured in the Mahs version. I have previously sent in label scans to SD, so they should be in the archives somewhere, but the a.side is on my site here: http://www.capitolsoulclub.hom estead.com/LabelsGallery10.htm l Hope that helps. David www.raresoulforum.co.uk |
