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mike s (mike_s)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 12:46 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For all you Motown completists, just seen that Ace/Kent in the UK about to issue an album of their material over the years that will include their Tri-Phi single Whole Lotta Nothin' and Fragile which Harvey F picked up. Although moving over to West Grand B, I don't think the group ever had an actual release on a Motown label (?)
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Robb_K (robb_k)
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I think you're right about them not having an actual release on a Motown label, although they were slated for a release on Soul #35007: "Thompin'"/"Do The Pig"

"Thompin'" was recorded by The Merced Blue Notes in Northern California (San Francisco Bay Area), and released on small indie Mammoth Records. It was the other side of "Rufus Jr.". Both sides were picked up by Galaxy Records and released.

I believe I also saw a few other recordings by them among Motown's master tapes.

(Message edited by Robb_K on October 07, 2004)
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BJL (bjl)
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Got the CD a few days ago - this is from the notes (based on interviews with the surviving group members):


quote:

�Rufus� became a jukebox hit in California and beyond. It also precipitated an unusual road trip for the Merced Blue Notes. Thanks to heavy airplay for the single in the region, the group was invited to Detroit in the summer of 1962, for club dates and recording work.

Bobby Hunt: �The Detroit connection came through somebody in one of these record companies, maybe it was HB Barnum, suggesting us to them. It was the first time we�d ever been on the road.�

Carl Mays: �We went all the way to Detroit, and the man said our record wasn�t selling. It was in the top ten in Detroit, but �it wasn�t selling�, so we didn�t make any money.�

Kenny Craig: �But when we went to Detroit it kinda dawned on us � that was the first time I felt that we were bigger than we thought we were. We went in a restaurant and they came asking for an autograph - we figured we were just a bunch of country boys. We went on this show hosted by Frantic Ernie, it was a record hop like Bandstand.�

While in town, the Blue Notes recorded three instrumental sides for Tri-Phi, the label belonging to former Moonglow Harvey Fuqua that had hit with the Spinners� �That�s What Girls Are Made For�. �Midnite Session�, spread over two sides of a first single, was a groovy piano-heavy blues, as was �Fragile� (originally known as �Cogitatin��), which featured the Chief�s disc debut on harmonica. Both were admittedly in an atypical style for the Motor City at the dawn of the Motown era.

Bobby Hunt: �We played the Twenty Grand Club, the equivalent to the Apollo in New York, it�s of that stature. And then we played in Flint and Pontiac too.�

Kenny Craig: �When we played there, Jimmy Smith was downstairs and we were upstairs, and the Supremes and a bunch of [future] stars were on that show. During that era, in black clubs, Jimmy Smith was the thing, �Back At The Chicken Shack�. Bobby used to work that stuff, he had these little routines he would do. We did all that kinda stuff - we were better in person than we were recording, because everything was loose. Recording, you�re uptight.�

While it cannot be considered their loosest recording, the third Tri-Phi side �Whole Lotta Nothing� was a nevertheless infectious and defiantly simple rocker with some humorous, self-effacing asides from each band member. Issued as a topside, upon release the number quickly became a local favourite back home, hitting #1 throughout the Valley in the late spring of 1963. It could have been a bigger hit, but Tri-Phi�s poor credit rating with their pressing plant meant crucial orders for the single went unfulfilled. Still, the Blue Notes coasted on their continued popularity by venturing outside their immediate home region.

Kenny Craig: �We played big shows at the Hollywood Palladium, Sacramento Memorial, and we started playing some clubs. They used to say, �Well, you don�t make the money off the records, you make it off the personal appearances,� that�s the way it worked back then. You�d wonder why you weren�t making a bunch of money, but then you saw guys like Marvin Gaye. I was talking to him backstage at the Merced Fairgrounds, and he said he hadn�t seen a quarter, and there we were, thinking he was a big time star. My trouble was I was always worried about improving, and then you don�t know who�s minding the store.�

Tri-Phi folded not long after the Blue Notes� second release, when Fuqua sold the label to Berry Gordy. Coolures, however, kept a dialogue open with Motown, and pitched new recordings to the company over the course of the ensuing year. Several tracks on this collection such as �Skippy�, �I Got A Right To Love My Baby�, �Jump� and �Greyhound� date from this period. None appear to have passed the infamous Motown quality control committee; given the label�s basic lack of blues repertoire, this is probably not surprising. For many years there has been a persistent rumour that a Merced Blue Notes single was issued on the label�s SOUL subsidiary � however, a copy of the record has yet to surface. The titles in question, �Rufus Jr� and �Do The Pig�, did constitute the combo�s next release, this time on the San Francisco imprint Mammoth...




(The "Chief" referred to above was George Coolures - he was the Fire Chief of Merced and acted as their manager/occasional harmonica player.) I'm really enjoying the CD right now - great music, research, photos, memorabilia etc...
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Robb_K (robb_k)
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Posted on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 10:05 am: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks BJL. Those notes are great. Too bad all "oldies CDs don't have notes like that. I believe the rumour about the "issue" of Soul 35007 came from the fact that collectors like me, who had access to Motown's recording and release schedule saw that listed. At one point, they were considering "Thompin'" and "Do The Pig" as a release, and then, apparantly, quality control, or Berry, or someone in charge nixed it, and it was scratched. I've looked through millions of records, and never seen it. A pressed version WASN'T in the Jobete Music or Motown Record Files in 1973-79, when I looked through them, periodically. I DID see The Frank Wilson, Andantes and others of which only 6 copies were pressed. So, I believe none were ever pressed with Soul labels. However, there were Merced Blue Notes' tapes among the master tapes (which were different cuts from their Tri-Phi releases). I assume (although I didn't see any specifically) that there were also acetates of some of their post-Tri-Phi recordings.

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