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Vic Doucette (vic_doucette)
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Post Number: 30
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.73.32.183
Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 7:02 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The few pictures I've seen of the group show only the vocalists. I've never seen pix of the backing band.

A few years ago, a guy I worked with claimed to have been the bass player for the group for a while, and said he was the guy who came up with that killer bass riff on "Do Me Right."

I didn't know him well enough to know if he was pulling my leg or not.

Can anyone post names/pix/other information about the backing band for the group?

Thanks!
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Chancellor of Soul (harlem_144)
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Post Number: 266
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 63.78.189.114
Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 5:56 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Vic,
The musicians on 'Do Me Right' were the same
session musicians that played on all of Al Green
records. Teenie Hodges on guitar, Leroy Hodges on
bass, the Memphis Horns, and on drums, Al Jackson
of (Booker T. & the MG's fame) and Howard Grimes.

Peace,
Mike Boone
(Chancellor of Soul)

chancellorofsoul.com
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Vic Doucette (vic_doucette)
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Post Number: 31
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.73.32.71
Posted on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 9:14 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks. This guy sure wasn't Leroy Hodges. But did those guys also tour with the group, or was it strictly a studio-only arrangement?

Maybe they guy I worked with was on the road with them?
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Chancellor of Soul (harlem_144)
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Post Number: 267
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 66.207.40.18
Posted on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 12:58 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Vic, there was a group they did travel with
named Chapter 8.

Peace,
Mike Boone
(Chancellor of Soul)

chancellorofsoul.com
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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
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Post Number: 2769
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 24.46.184.162
Posted on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 9:11 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Chancellor!!

Would that be the same Chapter 8, whom spawned Anita Baker???
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Vic Doucette (vic_doucette)
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 67.37.84.16
Posted on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 9:15 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And who were the players?
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mike s (mike_s)
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Post Number: 214
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 195.93.33.7
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 6:29 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks like they were the Emeralds backing group,according to Billboard's Top RnB singles book, from 1971 when they were formed for about two years.They then emerged as Chapter 8.
They were a Detroit band originally with Michael J Powell (guitar and producer,of course),David Washington (bass), Vernon Fails (keyboards),and Courtlen Hale (sax).
Gerald Lyles and Valerie Pinkston were the vocalists when the band were produced by Powell for Capitol and Beverly Glen in the mid80s.
Not sure for the earlier Ariola album as I have never seen or heard it but believe Anita Baker was on there as that year she replaced Carolyn Crawford who had joined in 75.Baker left to go solo in 1983.
So it looks like they were the backing band during the Emeralds' hit years.
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Raymond Ennifer (benlynx)
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Post Number: 60
Registered: 8-2004
Posted From: 81.77.198.156
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 7:51 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

info on abrim from the emeralds can be found at:
http://we_luv_grandpa_abrim.tr ipod.com/index.html
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Davie Gordon (davie_gordon)
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Post Number: 252
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 81.157.113.195
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:54 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Vic, "Do Me Right" was issued in January 1971 so
I think we can take it that's too early for the band who became Chapter 8 to be involved in the genesis of the song.
Chapter 8 were the road band for the Detroit Emeralds' UK tour in Oct 1973 and their lead ainger at the time, Carl Johnson, was drafted
into the Emeralds to replace Abe Tilmon when he left in December 1973.

However I've a feeling that the Emeralds had an
earlier band - maybe the group who eventually
ended up on the Fee label calling themselves
The Flaming Emeralds.

It's entirely possible that their road band's
bassist came up with the idea for "Do Me Right"'s
bass line. It would be reasonable to suppose that
the Emeralds had worked on the material before
going to Memphis to record the song. Probably the reason that the Hi studio band were used for recording is that they were more experienced
at working in studios and they of couse knew
Willie Mitchell's working methods - an advantage
that the Emeralds' road band wouldn't have had.

Davie
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Chancellor of Soul (harlem_144)
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Username: harlem_144

Post Number: 269
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 66.207.40.18
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 12:43 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Juice !
No, that was another group called Chapter 8
that Anita Baker worked with. This particular
group was a road band that Abe Tilmon traveled
with in the early 70's. Yeah Davie, just like
Motown would use their session players for a
better quality sound, Willie Mitchell did the
same for the Detroit Emeralds and Denice LaSalle's
hit from the same year of 1971, 'Trapped By A
Thing Called Love'.

Peace,
Mike Boone
(Chancellor of Soul)

chancellorofsoul.com

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