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  Jimmy Mack (luke) 6-Zenith Username: luke Post Number: 668 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 152.163.100.134 |
To be released in England 11/1-including recordings in French, songs from Battle of Bands at Greystone Ballroom, and alternative versions of Lonely Lonely Girl, Really Sayin Somethin and Bird in the Hand! HOT! | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 6-Zenith Username: robb_k Post Number: 565 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.81.197.236 |
I hope it includes all the previously unreleased cuts like the 2nd (superior)version of "That's The Reason Why" and "Mama Please" (original of "Daddy Please" by Adorables on Golden World, and others. | ||
motown_david (motown_david) 3-Pundit Username: motown_david Post Number: 32 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 195.93.33.7 |
From what I've read of the tracks on Motown Boards it's hotter than hot! All this AND I've booked to see the group in Hemsby, England at the end of October. It's Velvelettes heaven. | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 2603 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
I hope that this will be released in the U.S. I'm not overly familiar with all of their songs & I'd like to see if their music is as good as I've heard that it is. | ||
Jimmy Mack (luke) 6-Zenith Username: luke Post Number: 670 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 152.163.100.134 |
Does include Thats the reason and Mama Please. Dont know which version of Reason. | ||
Davie Gordon (davie_gordon) 5-Doyen Username: davie_gordon Post Number: 243 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.157.119.59 |
I've been waiting for John to announce this one - it is his baby,after all - but I'm sure he won't mind me filling in for him Here's the announced track listing THE VELVELETTES: �THE COMPLETE MOTOWN ANTHOLOGY� Disc 1 1. Selfish Lover* 2. Should I Tell Them* 3. My Foolish Heart (Keeps Hanging On To A Memory)* 4. Mama Please* 5. There He Goes 6. That's The Reason Why 7. I Know His Name (Only His Name) 8. (The) Monkey (Hokey Pokey)* 9. That's A Funny Way* 10. You Can't Get Away* 11. Stop Beating Around The Bush 12. Needle In A Haystack [stereo version] 13. He Was Really Sayin' Somethin' [alternative version]* 14. Since I've Lost You* 15. Think Of The Times 16. Throw A Farewell Kiss 17. Long Gone Lover 18. Lonely Lonely Girl Am I [alternative version]* 19. I'm The Exception To The Rule 20. Why Must You Go* 21. A Bird In The Hand (Is Worth Two In The Bush) [alternative mix]* 22. Save Me (My Ship Of Love Is Sinking) [alternative version] 23. Since You've Been Loving Me [stereo version]* 24. Let Love Live (A Little Bit Longer) [alternative mix]* Disc 2 1. The Boy From Crosstown [alternative mix]* 2. A Love So Deep Inside* 3. Ain't No Place Like Motown 4. He's The One* 5. Everybody Needs Love 6. Something's Happening* 7. Love Is Good 8. These Things Will Keep Me Loving You 9. These Things Will Keep Me Loving You [alternative stereo version] 10. Your Heart Belongs To Me* 11. Seasons Greetings From Motown 1966 12. I�m In Love (And I Know It)* 13. (We've Got) Honey Love* 14. I'm So Glad It's Twilight Time 15. Bring Back The Sunshine* Bonus 1: Battle Of The Stars, Live at the Greystone, February 28, 1964 * 16. (The) Nitty Gritty 17. There He Goes 18. The Monkey Time 19. I Can't Wait Until I See My Baby�s Face 20. (Ain�t That) Good News Bonus 2: The French recordings* 21. Puisque Je Sais Qu�il Est � Moi (�As Long As I Know He's Mine�) 22. Tu Perds Le Plus Merveileux Gar�on du Monde (�You Lost The Sweetest Boy�) 23. Le Hokey Pokey �(The) Monkey� 24. Je Veux Crier (�My Foolish Heart (Keeps Hanging On To A Memory)�) Davie | ||
Ron Murphy (ron_murphy) 4-Laureate Username: ron_murphy Post Number: 161 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.42.90.140 |
Hey Davie: I don't buy much anymore..but I sure will buy this..please let us over here know how we can get this one. I know these girls and not only do they still look good BUT they have always been able to sing and still can sing those songs just like the records and have always been underated. this is a great CD set but most likly will not get issued in the U.S., so please find out and post how we can buy this CD. thanks | ||
Don (don) 6-Zenith Username: don Post Number: 943 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.188.210 |
I'm impressed looking over the track list already. I knew there had to be more songs left someplace. I wasn't quite taken with their best of disc. But hey, this anthology should cinch it. I'm glad their was more material in the vaults that'll sustain their loyal fans. I'm just glad something has come of this. What is odd to me is The Velvelettes' "There He Goes" being included? Can someone here help me out here on it's inclusion. Don Chicago | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 6-Zenith Username: robb_k Post Number: 568 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.81.203.102 |
Wow! This is great! Six cuts I've never heard! I don't buy commercial CDs, but I'll get this one! Don, apparantly Mickey Stevenson was allowed to "place" "There He Goes" and "That's The Reason Why" with IPG as leased recordings. Therefore, they remained Motown's property (especially as IPG doesn't exist anymore). I only hope the Version of "That's The Reason Why" on the CD is NOT the IPG version, but the alternate Motown version (which I think is much better). It'll be interesting to hear those French cuts. | ||
Don (don) 6-Zenith Username: don Post Number: 946 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.188.210 |
Thanks Robb K for posting. I think this will be one of the ultimate of ultimate long awaited CD's from Motown's Vaults, and it's been a long time coming...a long time. | ||
Jimmy Mack (luke) 6-Zenith Username: luke Post Number: 671 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 205.188.116.138 |
It would b great if they had when the Velvelettes beat the Supremes at Greystone/Battle of the Bands. Per a Velletette, Miss Ross went in the bathroom and was kicking the door and screaming because the Supremes lost! | ||
Davie Gordon (davie_gordon) 5-Doyen Username: davie_gordon Post Number: 244 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.157.119.59 |
"It would b great if they had when the Velvelettes beat the Supremes at Greystone/Battle of the Bands" The Velvelettes' appearance that night was recorded - and they're included on the CD. As far as I know Diana's post-concert performance wasn't recorded - but you never know what's in those deep, deep Motown vaults :-) UK release date is pencilled in for November 1st. The CD can be pre-ordered from some on-line stores. The only one I've checked is www.amazon.co.uk They have it listed at �10.99 (a real bargain) plus postage. Great to see the interest this has generated - the Velvelettes deserve it. I'll keep you posted on future similar UK releases when I have definite release dates. Davie | ||
John Lester (theboyfromxtown) 4-Laureate Username: theboyfromxtown Post Number: 153 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.44.166.54 |
Robb - Yes it is the OTHER version of Thats The Reason Why.....and Ron, JimmyMack, Davie et al, the girls will really appreciate your support. The CD comprises EVERYTHING as far as studio recordings is concerned. What I tried to do was to include everything but use alternative mixes/versions where songs had been previously issued on CD. Effectively, I wanted this CD to appeal to the staunch Motown and SD fans who had to have everything - but they at least got something different to what they already had - it also had to appeal to those that wanted the great singles as well but in a form which would be acceptable by being not too far removed from what they knew. There is the "Baby Love" version of "He Was Really Saying Something", a completely new version with a different vocal. "Lonely Lonely Girl Am I" has the same band track but a different lead vocal....I could go on. The engineer who mastered the CD loved "Bird In The Hand" that now has a tambourine and handclap beat running through it. Northern Soul fans need to go straight to "A Love So Deep Inside" and "He's The One". Vocalist lovers ought to go to Cal's outstanding rendition of the Supremes "Your Heart Belongs To Me". Cal's favourite song is "Bring Back The Sunshine" - a song that was the forerunner to "Dark Side Of The World", the song that Diana Ross released as the flip side to her debut solo single. Can I mention that where alternative versions exist of some tracks (eg there were many lead vocals for Honey Love) Cal Street chose the one to be included personally, so I have the blessing of the group on this project. In fact, Cal and Bertha provided most of the pictures, which date back over the whole career of the group. Cal wrote the sleeve notes too. The "Battle" concert is the first one to be released. Who knows, if the reaction is good, then we might even get to hear the Supremes contributions when they did "Lovelight" and "Run Run Run". Do note the similarity of "Aint That Good News" - which precedes the later recorded version from the Supremes..and also note that on this song, Cal retreated to the background and allowed Betty (subsequently to become a Vandella) to take over the lead singing. The French language tracks are cute. Cal majored in French at school and one day, Berry Gordy overheard her talking to someone in French. He decided to record her and Little Stevie Wonder with a guy named Pierre Berjot. Stevie did "Castles In The Sand". Norma recalls that day vividly. By the way, Betty Kelley (note Cal's spelling of her name) was on the French recordings but Millie was not. And I nearly forgot what must be one of the most important aspects for SD fans (particularly David Meikle). On the back of the cd, there is a picture of tbe Velvelettes outside the Twenty Grand with their name in the marquee (spelt wrong unfortunately but at least it was up there for all to see). I did try to think of everybody when I put this together. Time will tell whether I did it right but I know in my heart, I did my best. | ||
David Meikle (david_meikle) 6-Zenith Username: david_meikle Post Number: 416 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 62.252.128.19 |
John Lester many thanks for continuing to champion Motown in this country. Thanks also to Davie Gordon for info. | ||
Don (don) 6-Zenith Username: don Post Number: 952 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.57.202 |
Well, so the battle of the groups (Velvelettes v. Supremes) is on the CD after all, huh. This is not to put down the The Supremes or nothing I'm glad they we're the superstars they became, but The Supremes could never really sing, though they could carry a tune. Out of all the Motown's girl groups we're in my opinion and others agreed where The Velvelettes. They we're so good, some members done bkgrd seesion with The Andantes. I wish The Vel's CD we're leased over here abroad, if not, oh well. | ||
John Lester (theboyfromxtown) 4-Laureate Username: theboyfromxtown Post Number: 154 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.44.166.54 |
Don....it WILL be available to you guys in the US (probably via Amazon) and thank you for your kind words. I am going to ask Cal to read this thread and I know she will read your post and smile cos she does appreciate comments such as yours. I try to tell her that she is one of the best but she is one of those people that needs convincing. So thanks for that! | ||
Don (don) 6-Zenith Username: don Post Number: 959 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.57.202 |
John, Tell Ms. Cal i met her and a couple of the girls along with Martha, Mickey, Kim, Clearence Paul (I think all together or at different times) Joe Hunter, Beans Bowles and Maurice King, at a friends apartment in Chicago in the mid/late 60's Tell me Ms. Cal she doesn't need convincing. I think she's just overwhelmed that her and the girls are getting the reconition after all these yrs, is all. Thanks John Don | ||
Ron Murphy (ron_murphy) 4-Laureate Username: ron_murphy Post Number: 162 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.42.90.140 |
hey John: I didn't know that you put this together, man what a great job. a friend of mine was doing an oldies radio program out of Flint,Michigan by the name of Max Oates, and one of the girls called the show and from that he told them why not get back together and they did. as I have stated before on this forum the Velvelettes were the best Motown female group the terms of vocal talent, I'm very glad they are now getting some respect. | ||
John Lester (theboyfromxtown) 4-Laureate Username: theboyfromxtown Post Number: 155 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.44.166.54 |
Ron.....thank you... I idolise the ground those ladies walk on....and you can be sure I am doing all I can to give them all the respect that I can. I shall try and get Cal to post on here..she does from time to time. | ||
Ritchie (ritchie) 4-Laureate Username: ritchie Post Number: 123 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 62.254.0.36 |
Just dropping in by request of John, to present this hot-off-the-presses pic....   | ||
John Lester (theboyfromxtown) 4-Laureate Username: theboyfromxtown Post Number: 156 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.44.166.54 |
That Ritchie is such a clever guy.....thank you Ritchie...Just so the SD folks can see it before it appears on Amazon! That picture is from Bertha's collection. Left to right....Bertha, Norma, Betty and Millie. Cal is at the top. | ||
Jimmy Mack (luke) 6-Zenith Username: luke Post Number: 680 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 152.163.100.134 |
Good to see they put pic of orignial Velvelettes and not the often used pic of Cal, Anette, and Sandra. They have been so underrated--their whoops and harmonies are fantastic. Why Bird in the Hand didnt go to #1 is beyond me. And to think they are all still together!!Wish Betty could appear with them sometime!(I was listening to their first CD the other day and Cal's voice often sounds like Martha's to me with some Brenda thrown in!) Sylvia Rhone should re-sign them and Brenda!!Screw ageism. | ||
mike s (mike_s) 5-Doyen Username: mike_s Post Number: 210 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 195.93.33.7 |
Not only great singers, but very nice people too | ||
Tony Russi (tony_russi) 5-Doyen Username: tony_russi Post Number: 276 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.210.7.187 |
Looking forward to getting this CD.The Velvelettes were always a great group and Cal is still a fabulous singer... I have their performace from the Girl Groups Stamps unveiling at the Rock Hall of Fame. | ||
Carl Dixon (carl_dixon) 4-Laureate Username: carl_dixon Post Number: 122 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 82.44.203.80 |
I see a Christmas stocking filler for me here. Well done John. Looks like a winner. Ritchie, where have you been? | ||
P.J. (pj1) 2-Debutant Username: pj1 Post Number: 27 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.3.123.111 |
The cd's cover photo may also be viewed on pg. 123 of (SD's own) Susan Whitall's book "Women Of Motown". | ||
nozski (marc_nozedar) 1-Arriviste Username: marc_nozedar Post Number: 1 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 213.106.232.34 |
My opinion on the group is they are the 60s �Destiny�s Child� they have the SHARP vocals, material, attitude, style and phrasing (with Cals funky vocal touches) : a sublime combination. I�ve been a follower since the age of 12, and got to meet them on their first UK tour in �87 when I was 14. I was gobsmacked to chat with them and likewise I think them that I knew who they were !! Since then I have wondered what their unreleased material is like. John Lester deserves respect for pioneering the group and this CD - I�m with him on the appreciation front ! I hope that the CD gets acknowledged as the musical/ Motown gold dust it is !!!!! A long time overdue and great that it�s release coincides with their big UK appearance. By the way � a question for John / the girls �was �I Know His Name� recorded as a part of the session of �Heatwave� ? � it sounds as though the session continued jamming and the Velvelettes joined in !??? one of the backing vocals at the top end �Oooh oohh� etc!! sounds like Martha and the Vandellas in the mix as well. Is this the case ??? the two tracks seem to be cut from the same cloth and this song (H-D-H produced also) could almost be �Heatwave� Part 2. Assuming that Betty Kelley must have sung with the Vandellas at a point prior to her joining the group as well ?? Although family commitments mean I can�t be there for the Motown Legends weekend, is there a scheduled time for the group performing so I might catch their appearance ? If they get to read this - they are much loved and recognised as being one of the finest soul acts then and now and I hope they enjoy their time over here in the UK. And do they have any other appearances scheduled ? somewhere a bit further north maybe ??? I look forward to hearing the CD. | ||
John Lester (theboyfromxtown) 4-Laureate Username: theboyfromxtown Post Number: 158 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.131.120.16 |
Well Marc I am so pleased when I find a fellow Velvelettes fan - especially one so young!! I Know His Name was assigned to Kim Weston in 1962...before the Velvelettes joined Motown. The girls (with Betty) added their vocals later. Harry Weinger mixed the track in 1999 from the sessions tapes as there was no final mix. Many of those 1963 songs have a Heatwave feel to them...and when you hear "You Can't Get Away" on the new 2CD album, then you will notice yet another clone! I am on the look out for another venue but I am looking south at present. If you know somewhere north, do let me know. | ||
Tony Russi (tony_russi) 5-Doyen Username: tony_russi Post Number: 280 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.210.43.228 |
John Lester you need to get the Velvelettes to cometo Florida... I promise we won't have a hurricane., only a flurry of fans. | ||
nozski (marc_nozedar) 1-Arriviste Username: marc_nozedar Post Number: 2 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 213.106.232.34 |
John Thanks for your reply and info on the track mix, sadly like all of us I'm not that young anymore! although my passion for Motown and Northern Soul is undiminishing and gets stonger as my CD collection increases, which is anticipating some new and well received additions soon no doubt. 'Heatwave' was a pivotal track by all accounts it seemed to change the face of R&B/ Doowop into a formula that became known as Soul and therefore any soundalikes are no bad thing ! I'll certainly look forward to catching all the tracks mentioned on the Double CD. As for venues in the north well I'm North East based and can't really say but would welcome if anyone else could make suggestions !? Motown acts tend to play the theatres here, I've been to PAs in bars and clubs as well but this might be better recommended by others in the NE Soul fraternity - many of whom I'm sure will be going to Gt Yarmouth - who knows I might make it myself yet... Thanks again | ||
John Lester (theboyfromxtown) 4-Laureate Username: theboyfromxtown Post Number: 159 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.131.140.60 |
Tony Find me a venue and I'll get them there.. That's a promise! | ||
SDF (handsome) 6-Zenith Username: handsome Post Number: 546 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 170.118.158.14 |
Hey Boy from Crosstown! I'm thirsty, ha ha! I need a copy of that Velvelettes cd! Handsome | ||
John Lester (theboyfromxtown) 4-Laureate Username: theboyfromxtown Post Number: 160 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.131.39.141 |
Handsome Come to Hemsby and I shall even get the ladies to sign it for you!! Plus I'll buy you a double...........! We need you so get yourself on that plane |
