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roy gennard (hitsville_chalky)
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Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 10:15 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

can anyone confirm did frank wilson cut my suger baby at motown and also is the label globe is detroit.
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Tony.C. (tonyc)
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As far as i understand --My Sugar Baby was cut when Frank Wilson(Sonny Daye) moved to L.a. as it was later cut by Connie Clarke(CHRIS)1968---I MAY BE WRONG BUT THEN AGAIN I OFTEN AM.
Tony.C.
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roy gennard (hitsville_chalky)
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Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 1:39 am: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

cheers tony ithink it must of been earlier than 1968 and motown moved in the 70s. also its intresting where chris recorded her version. ive got franks on a few unrealeasd motown cds.
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Ralph Terrana (ralph)
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I can't say for sure where Frank recorded this but bear in mind that prior to Motown's move in the 70's there was quite a bit of recording taking place at what was then known as Mowest Studios. I know Frank was one of the producers that was doing some work in L.A. at this time.
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Robb_K (robb_k)
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That's right, Ralph. Frank was producing in L.A. in the mid sixties. Hal Davis, Frank Wilson, Marc Gordon, Chester and Gary Pipkin, Vince Love and a few others were writers for Jobete Music in L.A. The wrote songs mainly for L.A. artists, like Mary Love, The Autographs, Connie Clark, on Modern,Kent, Joker, Magnum and other L.A.Record labels. Hal Davis, Oma Heard and The Vows (all L.A. artists) had releases on VIP (but also on small L.A. non-Motown labels. I believe that was 1965-66. I think Frank moved to Detroit in late 1966 or early 1967. I'm guessing that Frank Wilson's vocal was recorded in L.A., and the track also, as it was the same on Connie Clark's version.
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mike s (mike_s)
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A reference book I have says that Connie Clark's version was produced by Frank in September 1965 and released on a label called Joker. An instrumental version was on the Bside.
If it's the same backing track, then Frank could have added his vocals later in either LA or Detroit.
Frank's version of Do I Love You was done two months later in December 65 and was produced by Hal Davis and Marc Gordon which suggests it was definitely recorded in LA.
As Frank was stil working out of LA in mid 65,Sugar baby was almost certainly a West Coast recording too (or was it??!).
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Robb_K (robb_k)
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I agree, Mike S. It must have been recorded in L.A. (although some of Hal Davis' Brenda Holloway L.A. productions had background tracks recorded in Detroit). The background track doesn't sound to me like the Funk Brothers. I don't hear Detroit musicians on it. On "My Sugar Baby", it sounds like the same L.A. musicians that worked on Mary Love's, Gloria Jones' and other L.A./Jobete-related productions. The Connie Clark record was Joker 716.
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David Meikle (david_meikle)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 11:21 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was listening to one of my fav Frank Wilson songs the other day, "I'm in your hands" by Mary Love.....stunning.
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John Lester (theboyfromxtown)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 6:36 am: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

David

One of mine too......
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roy gennard (hitsville_chalky)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 6:41 am: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

another good track recorded by frank in the 60s was "til you were gone" on the motown delights cd
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Tony B. (tony_b)
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Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2004 - 4:10 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Talking of Frank Wilson, can anyone add to or correct the story that a couple of hip-hop heads looking for rare 12" singles in a Chicago record shop recently found only the third known copy of that ultimate soul rarity Do I Love You (Indeed I Do) and sold it in an online auction for $30,000?







(Message edited by tony_b on October 03, 2004)
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Robb_K (robb_k)
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Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2004 - 4:41 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds like one o' them "urban legends", to me!
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roy gennard (hitsville_chalky)
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Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2004 - 5:46 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

they say that there is a third copy that was found and sold it for �18000.but i dont where it was found.
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P.J. (pj1)
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Posted on Monday, October 04, 2004 - 12:14 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

On A Cellarful Of Motown Frank's version of My Sugar Baby kicks off the second c.d. The track annotation lists L.A. as recording location but no date is givenn.
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mike s (mike_s)
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Posted on Monday, October 04, 2004 - 12:22 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well spotted PJ. I had forgotten it was on there.

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