By Lonnie Cook (198.81.26.103) on Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 12:17 pm:

For all who may be here or on the way the 'Weekender' (Northern Soul dance) is being staged at the Wilshire Grand Hotel (L.A.'s finest)at 930 Wilshire Blvd.

http://www.goldsoul.co.uk/cgi-bin/index.cgi?page=soultripuk.html&cart_id=

By Wonder B (81.248.163.24) on Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 06:34 pm:

Can it get any better than this???????
How I wish I'd be there...

Wonder B

By Brother Love (12.65.120.75) on Sunday, March 14, 2004 - 05:43 am:

Just got in from a historial night of great fun and bumping music. It does not got any more soulful. Lots of stars from back in the day live on stage and in the house. Friendly and super cool folks everywhere you looked. They should do this every year in LA.

By Spoookey (198.81.26.103) on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 01:24 am:

Brother Love, who was all there. Your message was alright but come on, fill us in with the whole 10!!

By doowopsvoice (198.81.26.103) on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 12:43 pm:

Who was There
Bobby Sanders (Younghearts producer / Schoolboys)
Freddie Hughes (Send my baby back)
Fred Gorman (Originals)writer of many Detroit hits for Marvelettes, Reflections, et al
The Magnificents (Up on the Mountain)
David Nathan
Garland Green (Jealous kinda fellow)
James McEachin (Furys producer / Tenafly star)
Jewel Akens (Birds and the Bees)
Preston Epps (Bongo Rock)
Lonnie Cook (Natural 4 "I Thought you were mine")
Alexander Patton (I did not hear his song)
Olympics (Western Movies)
Evie Sands
Fred Smith (songwriter / producer)
Kim Weston (Helpless)
Wally Roker (Heartbeats)
Billy Griffin (Miracles)
Cornelius Grant (Tempts Bandleader / guitarist)
Ronald Preyer (Younghearts)
Earl Carter (Younghearts)

More as i recall

By doowopsvoice (198.81.26.103) on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 01:24 pm:

here is more

Swampp Dog (Jerry williams)
Ron Dunbar (writer with Holland Dozier Holland)
Charles Ingersoll (Younghearts)
Anthony Renfro (Attractions producer)
Tony Allen (Night Owl)
Blossoms (Gloria, Fanita, and Darlene Love)
Miles Grayson (Dynamite arranger from 60's)
Charles Wright (Watts 103rd / Shields)
Edna Wright (Honeycomb / Sandy Wynns)
Marva Holiday
Rufus Wonder

By steve w (81.174.209.200) on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 03:51 pm:

doowopsvoice, thanks very much, sounds fantastic props to Miles Grayson..."Dynamite arranger" couldn't agree more

By Spookey (198.81.26.103) on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 02:02 am:

Did the Holloway sisters ever made it? Sounds like a very good time with all the artists!!

By Brother Love (12.65.114.44) on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 02:41 am:

Alex Brown (The Raeletes)
Maxayn Lewis aka Paulette Parker (The Ikettes/Maxayn)
Billie Barnum (The Apollas/The Blackberries)
H.B. Barnum
Thelma Jones
Brenda Lee Eager
Vermettya Royster & Jeanie Long (Sisters Love)
Janice Singleton (The Secrets)
Pattie Brooks
Sherlie Matthews

By Brother Love (12.65.114.44) on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 03:11 am:

doowopsvoice, to set the record straight Darlene Love was not in attendance, only Fanita James and Gloria Jones of The Blossoms were there.

By John Lester (81.129.164.75) on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 03:31 am:

But sister, Edna of Honey Cone and Date With Soul and......was there, wasn't she...

By David Meikle (81.130.211.124) on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 04:56 am:

What a fantastic list of vip's.

Must have been a great event.

BTW Alexander Patton's record is one of the best ever recorded.

By JSmith (212.39.231.20) on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 07:58 am:

Lou Ragland was there to perform.
He tells me he sang "I Travel Alone " and "Since U Said You'd Be Mine" but forgot some of the words to each song.
He did state that the audience knew them though and so sang them back to him.
He enjoyed himself.

By John Lester (62.49.61.57) on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 08:23 am:

Martha Reeves is finding the same thing when she does a tribute to the great (and sadly not performing on the show) Jimmy Ruffin. She sings What Becomes of The Brokenhearted and asks the audience to help her with the words.

It's a marvelous feeling to hear the audience singing louder than she does. And Martha is really pleased too!!

By JSmith (212.39.231.20) on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 09:33 am:

Further on Lou Ragland being at the event....
He tells me that no one recognised him until he went up on stage and performed his songs.
This is really strange (to me) as Lou's appearance has hardly changed in the last 30 years. His 2 'funk' based LP's (from the 70's) have been reissued in the UK in the last couple of years by Soul Brother with good sales levels and one of these prominently displays a line drawing of Lou that is a really good likeness of him.
Just goes to show that the UK NS & funk scenes are completely seperate and that very few of the NS fans who went to LA can have bothered to buy the Soul Brother releases.

By doowopsvoice (198.81.26.103) on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 10:38 am:

You caught me fudging, I knew Darlene was not there but the audience did not (teasing the imagination)

The Alexander Patton just happened to have been produced by James McEachin.

Anyone who was not there missed the very unusual UK approach to dance. They would hit the floor in such a manner as to all appear to be dancing alone. There were couples but they did not seem to be coupled. The US contigent from San Francisco were the primary attraction because they twirled, vaulted, and gyrated into many a camera. Most of the original Brits did those things when they were younger but no longer have the agility or mobility to risk it. They were greatly spellbinding. Even the older dancers had me so.

Most of the guest artist contingent signed at least 50 autographs, mostly on T-shirts, photos, and posters.

Many of the Soulful Detroit participants asked about why some here seem to always get off subject and detrimentally personal with threads.

Tonight the entire group will meet the guy that has had the highest selling Northern Soul 45, it sold for 15,000 (pounds not dollars). Yep, Rev Frank Wilson will be there this evening. His song "Do I Love You" (on Soul) is the record. I was told that the rarity of his Motown artistry was destined when Berry decided that he would only be a producer. Berry recalled everything he had recorded. Thank heaven for the cracks that things always seem to slip through.

By roger (217.35.87.17) on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 11:51 am:

Hello Again Everyone.

Doowopsvoice.

There was a very interesting thread on "Do I Love You (Indeed I Do)" by FRANK WILSON a few months back.

If you use the "Search Forum" facility and search on "Ron Murphy" its currently #35 topic listed.

I'm sure you'll find it as fascinating as I did.

Roger

By David Meikle (81.130.211.124) on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 11:59 am:

Doowopsvoice

Is SoulfulDetroit the only forum that has such problems?

Anyway please pass on the good news about Registration which I am testing as we speak.

Enjoy the rest of the event.

thanks for the message.

David

By doowopsvoice (198.81.26.103) on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 02:02 pm:

Astute and intuitive question, David (sho ya right) any dog can bite.

By Mark Speck (198.211.138.251) on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 11:12 pm:

I REALLY wanted to go to this event, but as fate would have it, my getting sick late in the summer screwed up my plans to save money for this event.
Hopefully, I'll have paid off the medical bills for my surgery, hospital visits, etc., soon so I can save for a decent vacation.

One thing is for sure--I want hearing Northern and rare soul in a nice venue to be a big part of that vacation!

BTW, since no one mentioned it, the title of Alexander Patten's great record is "A Little Lovin' Sometimes", and it's one of many great Northern soul sides on the Capitol label.

Best,

Mark

By FRANCIS T (195.92.168.169) on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 02:41 pm:

FANTASTIC WEEK.JUST GOT HOME TO THE UK.LA WILL NEVER BE THE SAME AGAIN!!!!
Who did the que for LOU RAGLAND think they were about to meet?Of course we knew who he was.Many remembered him from his UK visit in the eighties.What a star,as where the other soul greats who were present.EDNA WRIGHT- wow!RON DUNBAR-so friendly.To many nice things happened to remember with jetlag.
We even met this guy called Lonnie Cook.

REGARDS FRANCIS T

By doowopsvoice (198.81.26.103) on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 03:27 am:

Good to be able to put a friendly face to a thread poster. It was nice meeting you guys, i look forward to next year.

Francis, do you know if Andy Belvin (yes Jesse's cuz) came to the hotel Wednesday? He told me that someone there had tried to get him to return pages (over 20) after he had refused to comply with their inquiries about one of his 60's productions. I convinced him that he was making a mistake to ignore the query and he told me he would ride down there with me after he went to cash a check. He never came back to go so i figure there is a chance that he went on his own. He is the kind that does not like to discuss business in front of anyone not involved.

Did you ever hear the near hit Andy had on Atco called "Traveling Mood"?

Are you guys going to post any pictures taken at the Wilshire Grand?

That style of dancing that most of you do is unique, to say the least. We loved it, thanks.

By doowopsvoice (198.81.26.103) on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 03:30 am:

Oh Yeah, Ron Dunbar looked amazing like Anthony Renfro.

By doowopsvoice (198.81.26.103) on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 03:31 am:

Oh Yeah, Ron Dunbar looked amazingly like Anthony Renfro.

By FRANCIS T (195.92.168.171) on Sunday, March 21, 2004 - 12:47 pm:

Reference Andy Belvin.I have no idea if he was there,or had any feedback on any situation with any of our group.Maybe some wires got crossed somewhere,as some of our accents differ from standard West Coast American!,but I can,t believe any one of us would wish to show anything but RESPECT.
I expect some pictures will appear soon.One picture that should have been taken was the impromptu accapella between the Blossoms and Jewel Akins singing the Birds and Bees in the Sunday Record Fair.A great reunion moment.
Anyway thanks again to all the artists/guests who were prepared to put up with our ravings and questions.
Regards FRANCIS T

By MEL&THEN SOME (81.152.20.90) on Sunday, March 21, 2004 - 01:43 pm:

Alexander Patton
jesus
worth the entrance fee alone


mel

By MEL&THEN SOM (81.152.20.90) on Sunday, March 21, 2004 - 01:44 pm:

ps
any pics of above at all?

mel

By Juicefree20 (141.149.37.7) on Sunday, March 21, 2004 - 07:14 pm:

So, tell me, how were The Young Hearts? I loved those guys in the mid 70s & would love to hear more from them. They don't seem to get to my neck of the woods (N.Y.), it'd be great to see them. Hey P.J., hook a brother up on the next PBS special!

By JSmith (212.39.231.20) on Monday, March 22, 2004 - 08:43 am:

Francis T,
RE: YOUR COMMENT.. who did the que(ue) for LOU RAGLAND think they were about to meet. Of course we knew who he was......
I know people knew his records and that he was to attend and perform. That doesnt change the fact that he told me hardly anyone spoke to him before he was announced and he thought this was because no one recognised him.
One of my closest friends was on the trip (I'm afraid I wount attend any Robbing Keverts organised events on principle) and passed along a couple of items I had for Lou.
Lou is due to perform in Germany in May and hopefully will be back in the UK in the not too distant future (I ran his 1990 UK tour).

By lonnie cook (198.81.26.103) on Monday, March 22, 2004 - 11:42 am:

Bobby Sanders owns the name 'Younghearts' and is now working with a group of teens that are due to have a release using the name.

By Juicefree20 (151.204.156.39) on Monday, March 22, 2004 - 02:01 pm:

Aw man, Lonnie don't tell me that. What about Ronald, Earl & Charles? Does this mean that they won't be able to sing as The Young Hearts anymore? How do they bill themselves, as these are the "Young Hearts" whose music I enjoy. Are they doing anything together as a group???
Thanks for the info!!

Peace
Juice

By francis t (195.92.168.173) on Monday, March 22, 2004 - 02:36 pm:

re LOU RAGLAND.Fair enough.Perhaps the problem was he was there on the Sunday night when things were a little less hectic.I don,t really know.Whatever,he is much respected and his presence appreciated.I look forward to a UK visit if it happens.
Regards Francis T

By JSmith (212.39.231.20) on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 03:22 am:

Yet more on Lou Ragland.........
it's early stages yet, but we are trying to set up a very interesting recording project that he will participate in.
If it reaches fruition, it will entail Lou recording not in LV, LA or even Cleveland.....but in LY (can't be more specific at this time).

By lonnie (198.81.26.103) on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 01:17 pm:

Photos / Photos / Photos
See if you recognize anyone


http://www.mrsoulsatisfaction.com/html/northernsoul/northernsoul.htm

Bobby told them that it would not be a prudent move to try to tour using his 'Younghearts' name.

By Juicefree20 (151.205.163.226) on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 01:29 pm:

Man, that's too cold. I wish that Bobby could have shown the brothers more respect. They're the ones who had the hits, I wish them much success. I wonder just what happened for him to treat them that way. How does one contact any of them, Bobby included?

Thanks for the info, Peace!
Juice

By Juicefree20 (151.205.108.128) on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 03:12 pm:

Lonnie, my man! Those arfe some great photos! A Blowfly party!!! I love Blowfly, he was my man. Thanks for sharing. I didn't recognize too many folks, can you give a hint? Thanks again!
Peace
Juice

By lonnie (198.81.26.103) on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 12:05 pm:

The site and link are not mine but i can tell you that Garland Green, Kev Roberts, and Freddie Hughes are three of those pictured.

By lonnie (198.81.26.103) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:27 pm:

Francis, didn't you take pictures?
If you did, can you post some?

If you know how to post a picture, let me know.

By bunnersoul (80.5.160.6) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 02:09 pm:

I went to the L.A soul fest and it was one of the best weeks of my life, there was just so much going on what with all the singers , record producers etc, saturday night was one of the best nights i've had on the northern scene in over thirty years. Highlghts for me were the Olympics & tha Magnificents and best solo had to be Freddie Hughes, Nobody's mentioned the Elgins being there not the Detroit group but the L.A ones, great guys and singers of one of my favourite 45's "Street scene"b/w "You found yourself another fool" on Valiant which they sang for me in the bar, some great memories and dont get me started on the record fair !
Roll on 2006 in New Jersey.

By E (68.236.27.208) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 02:46 pm:

Wish I were there!!
Looks like it was tunzo pfun!!

By FRANCIS T (195.92.67.209) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 01:45 pm:

Lonnie
I am waiting for my films to come back (you know the old fashioned non digital type!)God knows if I will be able to post them,but Rob said he may be able to put some pictures on after he gets back from a trip.
It will be worth the wait,I am sure.

Best wishes

FRANCIS T

By lonne cook (198.81.18.178) on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 01:44 am:

Francis,
Thought i had seen a camera around your neck, you're right i can't wait.

By Charles (64.161.242.154) on Friday, April 09, 2004 - 01:28 pm:

Hi everybody,this is Charles Ingersoll original member of the Younghearts.Sorry about the bad information you got from Bobby Sanders about the use of the Younghearts name.We recorded one album with Bobby Sanders on Minit records.In 1969 we made a three way deal with Bobby,Minit to leave Minit and Bobby and in doing so we kept the rights to the Younghearts name.The name had been copywritten one year earllier by myself.The Younghearts went on to record four more albums for three different record companies.Bobby went on to release several records using the names The New Younghearts and the King of Hearts.These groups were comprised of once fill in members of the original Younghearts and the Tempos.Sorry to say but Bobby never got over the split.The YOUNGHEARTS today are still performing with the only original lead vocalist Ronald Preyer,the other three members are alive but no longer performing. Thank you for your support
your friend always Charles

By Juicefree20 (68.161.34.190) on Friday, April 09, 2004 - 05:40 pm:

Hey Charles, it's good to see you here. Please e-mail me @ Juicefree@hotmail.com. I've always wanted to speak with one of you fellas, as I find The Younghearts to be one of the most under rated groups ever. I just have a few questions about those 20th Century Fox days & just a basic overview of your careers. I never knew Bobby Sanders to be a member of The Young Hearts & wondered how he gained such prominence, as mentioned earlier in this thread. Please get in touch. By the way, Do You Have The Time, Wildfire & I Said To Myself are 3 of my all-time favorites of yours. Also, was Hey Love recorded by your group, or the Bobby Sanders group? I hope to see The Younghearts in the NY area soon.
I'm very glad that you clarified the situation & glad to know that Ron is still doing his thing.

Peace

Juicefree