"MOTOWN 45" t.v. Special films Sun., Apr. 4 - Input?!

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Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.237.59.78) on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 04:39 pm:

Let's ALL add any and all input as we get it from friends -- or even enemies -- who are supremely fortunate enough (beg, borrow or steal) to be able to attend "Motown 45", which is filming Sunday eve, April 4, at The Shrine in L.A.

Bi the way, "M-45" airdate is: Monday, May 17 @ 9 p.m.(EST).

Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.237.59.78) on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 08:48 pm:

Motown Artists Confirmed for "MOTOWN-45":

* The Temptations (w/o Dennis Edwards)

* Martha Reeves & The Vandellas

* The Four Tops (w/o Levi)

* Smokey Robinson (w/o The Miracles)

* Gladys Knight (w/o The Pips)

* Lionel Ritchie & The Commodores

* Michael "Motown" McDonald

* Boyz II Men

* Nick Lachey (of 98 Degrees)

* The Funk Brothers

* Brian McKnight

..... maybe Mari, Cindy and _____!?

Top of pageBottom of page   By TRI-PHI (68.5.143.49) on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 09:53 pm:

AND OF COURSE THE MARVELETTES ARE LEFT OUT AGAIN, AS WELL AS KIM WESTON AND BRENDA HOLLOWAY, OR BLINKY WHAT THE HELL, THIS SPECIAL IS GONNA SUCK, BECAUSE, MOTOWN NOW A DAYS AINT ALL THAT, BACK IN THE DAY IT WAS ABOUT GIVING ALL ITS 60'S ACTS EXPOSURE AND NOW ONLY THE SUPERSTARS ARE INVITED TO COME BACK, WELL THE TEMPTATIONS AND NOTHINH BUT A R&B VERSION OF MENUDO WITH MEMBERS COMMING AND GOING, THE ONLY GOOD THING IS THAT GC CAMERON IS WITH THEM, AND HE SHOULDDA STAYED WITH THE SPINNERS WHEN HE FILLED IN FOR JOHN EDWARDS

Top of pageBottom of page   By SPOOKEY (198.81.26.103) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 03:23 am:

Martha Reeves will be singing with her sisters and not the "Original" Vandellas. Brenda Holloway told me she will be attending the show and Kim Weston said she was not invited!! -- By the way, Mickey Stevenson is helping with the production.

I will be attending this event!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.237.125.253) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 03:50 am:

Wow! That's great, Spookey. Give my regards to Miss Martha. Besides e-mailing her, I left some messages for her recently, including with the production company and at The Shrine, to get the updates, especially which song(s) will M.R.V. be performing on "M-45". I posted yesterday, or before, elsewhere on the board that Lois and Delphine would be The V's. Looks like M.R.V. will be the one and only girl group.

Bi the way, are U in NYC or.... If so, or not, did U see Martha, Lois and Delphine at B.B. King's Nightclub four months ago? From the stage during their concert, Martha dedicated "Honey Chile" to me and then they sang it! She's great; that made her greater.

Brenda Holloway, originally from L.A., belongs on the stage for "M-45" -- and performing!

Visit my S.V.A. weblink that Martha visits and loves:
www.STONEWALLvets.org/songsofStonewall-7.htm.

"Bless U" and enjoy the incredible show!

Remember "Love, Guess Who" to Martha Rose!

Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.237.125.253) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 06:47 am:

"MOTOWN 45" Surprise???

I just got off the phone at nearly 3 a.m. (West Coast time) with "someone-in-charge" on the scene at The Shrine Auditorium, where the production has been setting up for daze. The Supremes have confirmed two already, Mari W. and Cindy B., and Hollywood buzz is that a third may be in waiting. That just has to be -- gotta be -- either the Queen of Motown or Jean Terrell. We'll know soon enough. Will keep U posted!

Top of pageBottom of page   By SPOOKEY (198.81.26.103) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 02:39 pm:

Thelma Houston has been added!! -- hopefully, Diana will step in next!!

Heard Gladys Horton called the producers and they told her; they didn't need her services!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.237.125.253) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 05:48 pm:

Spookey keeps the "411" flowing from Hollywood..........
As far as classic Motowners go, the more the Motowner. Good newz about Thelma; bad newz about Gladys Horton. Kudos to G.H. for at least calling the M-45 producers. Motown sure needed Gladys and/or Wanda singing lead for The Marvelettes for a full, long and crucial decade!

To put the whipped cream on this Motown 45 cake, they need a certain gal to pull up, get out of a limo and strut down the Motown blue carpet: Miss Ross.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Juicefree20 (141.149.53.204) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 06:13 pm:

Great info Stonewall & Spookey!!! Stonewall, your last line is the perfect scenario. It really is time, it's long overdue. We've been losing singers from that era almost weekly these days. None of them are getting any younger, it's time, it's the right thing to do. Hey Spookey, since you'll be there, post the d*** pictures this time, ok :)

Juice

Top of pageBottom of page   By Shawn1b (65.30.15.198) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 08:27 pm:

Well I hoping for WONDERFUL reviews !I know Martha is gonna put in a show stopping peformance !Shawn

Top of pageBottom of page   By SPOOKEY (198.81.26.103) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 08:36 pm:

SHAWN,


You're right!! But like always ... it might hit the cutting floor, remember Motown 25?

Mary Wells and Marvin Gaye did a duet and that was lost!!

Sorry, I'm not attending after talking with Kim Weston, I decided that and felt that although I love Motown, my heart weasn't into it!! No, it's not old stage because Motown is older than I am!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By Juicefree20 (141.149.53.204) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 09:08 pm:

Spookey, you love those Motown greats. How cold your heart not be into it.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Juicefree20 (141.149.53.204) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 09:09 pm:

Spookey, I meant how could your heart not be into it.

Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.237.125.253) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 09:10 pm:

Spookey got spooked! "It's A Shame", to quote The Motown Spinners. Of course, we agree with U regarding Kim, The Marvelettes, et al. but it is a shame for U to miss this historic occasion. I'd reconsider it asap. U have enuf time.

Meanwhile, I'll keep up the "411" from other friends, colleagues and even "enemies" (anyone who claims not to like the Diva Diana, yet a day doesn't go bi w/o them thinkin' of her and probably playin' her songs) who are right now en route to The Shrine Auditorium for M-45.

As "Juicey-free" rightly pointed out, so many Motown greats have been lost, including M-stars who were on "M-25": Mary Wells, Junior Walker, The Four Tops' Laurence Payton and The Temptations' Melvin Franklin. Plus, M-stars who weren't on it but should have been on M-25 and nonetheless passed since: David Ruffin, Eddie Kendricks and Edwin Starr. And, of course, last year, Miss Barbara Randolph. And, very recently, Johnny Bristol!

Bi the way, Juice, who was only a one-year old when Diana sang "Who's Lovin' U?" in 1961 -- do I have that correct -- how do U make that little yellow smiley face on this site?

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.211.240) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 09:11 pm:

Motown of today, is not the same Motown that we loved.

Top of pageBottom of page   By SPOOKEY (198.81.26.103) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 09:20 pm:

I didn't get "spooked," Stonewell, it's not "Ashame," like the Spinners either. I have been so blessed to be around the Motown stars; face to face with Berry, Smokey, Stevie, Martha and the rest, that I count my blessings.

Just a few months ago, I took a photo of myself with Berry Gordy and Brenda Holloway together, now that IS MOTOWN 45!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.237.125.253) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 09:42 pm:

I know what U mean. I've been blessed to be with M-stars like MARTHA REEVES and MARI WILSON and JIMMY RUFFIN for a long time, including more recent times. Plus, I have been 'around' and then some with many M-Stars who no one will ever have the chance to be with again: EDDIE KENDRICKS and DAVID RUFFIN -- plus a different but A-1 level, Miss MARY WELLS! I wonder how her daughter SUGAR is doin'? So, like Mister Juice stated, we don't know which M-Star we are gonna lose next? It may be someone performing at M-45 this evening!

Anyway, with BRENDA HOLLOWAY being one of my longtime favorites, I'd be very glad to get a copy of the pic of BERRY, Brenda and U for our non-profit org. website (w/ photo credits) and/or to contact Brenda via mail or e-mail or whatever. If that's okay, U could e-mail me the 411 (of course, not post it). Bi the way, I was the one and only President of the Motown-authorized and sponsored BRENDA HOLLOWAY FAN CLUB of New York! Among other things, Motown always sent us the Brenda promotional records on the white label. I'm "...So Very Happy" that B.H. is at M-45 and hopefully to perform. Spookey, I do deeply appreciate U having let me/us know that. Now, U know the special reason why.

Anyway

Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.237.125.253) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 09:45 pm:

Spookey, I know what U mean. I've been blessed to be with M-stars like MARTHA REEVES and MARI WILSON and JIMMY RUFFIN for a long time, including more recent times. Plus, I have been 'around' and then some with many M-Stars who no one will ever have the chance to be with again: EDDIE KENDRICKS and DAVID RUFFIN -- plus a different but A-1 level, Miss MARY WELLS! I wonder how her daughter SUGAR is doin'? So, like Mister Juice stated, we don't know which M-Star we are gonna lose next? It may be someone performing at M-45 this evening!

Anyway, with BRENDA HOLLOWAY being one of my longtime favorites, I'd be very glad to get a copy of the pic of BERRY, Brenda and U for our non-profit org. website (w/ photo credits) and/or to contact Brenda via mail or e-mail or whatever. If that's okay, U could e-mail me the 411 (of course, not post it). Bi the way, I was the one and only President of the Motown-authorized and sponsored BRENDA HOLLOWAY FAN CLUB of New York! Among other things, Motown always sent us the Brenda promotional records on the white label. I'm "...So Very Happy" that B.H. is at M-45 and hopefully to perform. Spookey, I do deeply appreciate U having let me/us know that. Now, U know the special reason why.

Vizit: www.STONEWALLvets.org/songsofStonewall-1.htm.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Juicefree20 (141.149.53.204) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 11:56 pm:

Hey Stonewall, how are you? You have a good memory, I was indeed a year old at the time. Regarding the smiley faces, I just type a colon & a right closed parenthesis & the smiley face pops up. I must say that I always felt that Brenda Holloway was one of the most beautiful & talented women In Motown. It would have been great if I had been old enough to date her, what a gorgeous & classy looking woman. I'd take her over 1,000 of these "stars" of today!

Juice

Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.237.125.253) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 12:45 am:

U are very observant, Juice, as your scribes regularly indicate. We both are!! Yes, I have a great memory! :)

BRENDA HOLLOWAY -- and the public -- were so cheated by Motown regarding her great talents and songs. After the sudden exit of MARY WELLS, Miss HOLLOWAY was the perfect one to carry the solo female Motown singer torch. That's one of the resaons, as U know, that M-town gave Brenda so many of Mary's songs -- especially my favorite, "When I'm Gone". It was sinful that only one album was released and 3 years of Brenda singles were never albumized.:(

Juicey-free, thanx 4 the smiles.:) The opportunity may rise to return the favor sometime.

Top of pageBottom of page   By SPOOKEY (198.81.26.103) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 12:48 am:

STONEWELL,

Send me an email at chicanomagazine@aol.com, and I will email you; THE PICTURE!!

I'm sitting here eating pizza and having ice cream while Motown 45 is only 40 minutes away from me!! -- but like Sugar Wells, and others, I'm sittin' this out!! But, for Motown 50, if Gods willing, I will be there!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By Jicefree20 (141.149.53.204) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 01:21 am:

Hey Spookey, I read about your newsletter & was wondering if you have any back copies of the newsletter for sale?

Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.237.125.253) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 01:30 am:

Greetings, "Spookey" (I like that cute version by D.R.S.),

Thanx for your swell, accommodating and inspiring posting above. U are too much w/ the pizza 'n' cream instead of M-45. Juice and I on this board were certainly encouraging U to go butt.... Oh, I've been intending to tell U, on those "Top 5 Favorites", I noticed that we frequently choose many of the same or similiar songs. That is a very positive vibe.

Give my luv to BRENDA HOLLOWAY. She will be 'plucked' to know that U are in contact with the former president of her Motown Fan Club in N.Y. I possess the original, parchment paper certificate issued to me from Motown Records Corporation stating: "Official Motown Fan Club for Brenda Holloway, Williamson Henderson, President". My nickname wasn't yet STONEWALL at that point. Brenda's "Just Look What You've Done" was a #1 hit in all the dance clubs (frequented by mostly underaged teenagers, hello). Even a couple of years later, when Motown re-released the song, it surged up again. It always sounded brand new. I believe that "JLWYD" is the ultimate classic Motown fast song. That song is like a fast-moving train with B.H. as the powerful, innovative, driving engineer.

Bi the way, I regard MARTHA's "Dancing In The Street" as the Motown anthem. It is! In fact, recall the big dance production opening to "DITS" on M-25. Have Brenda and Martha spoken to each other recently? The last time that I asked Martha that "?", I know she hadn't; however, that was a while back. If not, U and I can do something about that. Though, come to think of it, they may be speaking to e/o right now as M-45 is in full gear, half-way through the show. I gather that although M.R.V. is surely performing, that B.H. is not. Is that so?

Spook, I sent U that e-mail. Did U get it?

Top of pageBottom of page   By SPOOKEY (198.81.26.103) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 01:47 am:

STONEWELL,

It's been a long time since i heard from you!! -- Remember me, as the Offical fan club president for Mary Wells? or the Legendary Ladies of Rock and Roll Newsletters?

I will email you tonight!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By Spookey (198.81.26.103) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 01:54 am:

Stonewell, I didn't get the email
send to
chicanomagazine@aol.com

Top of pageBottom of page   By spookey (198.81.26.103) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 02:02 am:

stonewell, i sent three photos, one of berry and brenda, one of me smokey & one of the miracles, and one of me and mr berry gordy!!
check them out and if you can post them here; do it!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By spookey (198.81.26.103) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 02:10 am:

stonewall, i sent a very special picture of myself!! -- hope u like it!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.237.125.253) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 03:32 am:

What a Motown coincidence!

U know with our writings, it felt so comfortable
communicating with U -- plus I knew from the favorite lists that we sure had a lot of favorites in common, especially the "Legendary Ladies of Motown". Of course, I remember your newsletter! So, that's what Juicefree was talking about with your "newsletter"! Do U recall who introduced us? I believe it was one of the 3-Ms: MARY WELLS, MARTHA REEVES or MARI WILSON.

Now, I'll go to the e-mails which is on a totally different whatever for me. Thanx and I'll do as U say and get our webmaster to get them on this Board, too. Oh, so has Brenda s/w Martha, or not? What a surprise hearing from Annette! She's been to my house in Long Island and my apartment in Manhattan!!

Bi the way, do U like this Board the best, or what? I presume U do but don't know.

Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.237.125.253) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 03:44 am:

Spookey, just discovered that the Microsft Outlook is jammed up, that's why U didn't get the e-mail. I'll e-mail U when I go to that "dep't".

U must have friends at M-45 or members via Legendary Ladies of Rock 'n' Roll (& Motown). I do have some there. "I'm Still Waiting" for them to call or e-mail me w/ the 411. Have U heard anything new?

This turned out to be an interesting Motown-45 reunion evening after all. In fact, U can easily guess who I am expecting to hear from, butt I'm sure it's ecstatic and maybe a bit frantic at the moment and the after-party. I should have gotten the hotel name.

Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.237.125.253) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 08:04 am:

Mister Spookey:

Thanx so much for the excellent and close-up pictures of U and the one and only King Of Motown -- the guy who made 75% of the subject matter on these boards possible -- Mr. BERRY GORDY, Jr. The pic clearly shows his familiarity with U, thus giving a very natural, happy shot.

The S.V.A. organization, a renowned, national non-profit, celebrating its 35th year this June, will be sending U a formal letter of appreciation. As U know, S.V.A, has the support of many public officials including many whom are known nationwide such as America's Mayor Rudy Giuliani, U.S. Senator Hillary Clinton and former N.Y.C. Mayor Ed Koch, among many others.

"Oh!" (to quote MARY WELLS), U adding the bonus photo of U and SMOKEY ROBINSON was the cream on the cake. I just saw Smokey a couple of weeks ago -- with GLADYS KNIGHT -- at Westbury Music Fair in Long Island (U know, where we met many moons ago). We spoke backstage (but w/o a camera).

Let me know how many of the new promotional pix U want of MARTHA REEVES & THE VANDELLAS so that I can get them out to U (East-to-West) asap. Also, all my luv to BRENDA H. "She's made me so very happy, I'm so glad she came into my life". Thanx!

Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.237.125.253) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 05:05 pm:

Updates: "MOTOWN 25 Show"

* The SUPREMES -- Diana did not attend but, as pre-confirmed, MARI WILSON and CINDY BIRDSONG did, God Bless both of them. However, instead of having former lead singer JEAN TERRELL or former lead singer SCHERRIE PAYNE or having a should-have-been-lead-singer like BRENDA HOLLOWAY, they had Kelly Who Rowland. U know, if they wanted to go that route, they should have had the real DC lead singer Beyonce! Imagine if Diana had appeared with DC's Kelly and Michelle as her Supes?? OMG!! Anyway the 3 galz did a Supremes' medley:

> "Stop! In The Name Of Love"

> "My World Is Empty Without U"

> "U Can't Hurry Love"


* THE TEMPTATIONS, tho promised, were not there?????


* THE FOUR TOPS -- in great form and dedicated to Levi, smartly did a knock-out #1 hits medley:

> "Reach Out, I'll Be There"

> "Standing In The Shadows Of Love"

> "Baby, I Need Your Loving"

> "I Can't Help Myself"


... more Motown to come!
"Not Now, I'll Tell U Later"


"Watchout!": Watch the entertainment shows Mon. eve, April 5 to catch their coverage of M-45. Shows such as:

* "E" News

* "Access Hollywood"

* "Entertainment Tonight"

* "Extra!"

Top of pageBottom of page   By Common (209.2.55.172) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 05:22 pm:

Hello everyone,

Here is a brief 'review' of the Motown 45 special. Looks like it's was a doozy. LOL!!

http://www.eurweb.com/articles/headlines/04052004/headlines1392904052004.cfm

Top of pageBottom of page   By irmo (64.12.117.14) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 07:25 pm:

As a native of Detroit, I am qualified to make these statements.

I was there at the Shrine, Sunday evening for Motown 45, which in my opinion was not true "Motown" by ANY stretch of imagination. I cannot imagine what they are going to air on televion on May 3. It was not a tribute to the artists, in my opinion. I believe Barry would not have been recognized in the audience if Smokey had not had the spot light placed on him. Any artist still able to breath that came up through the ranks at Motown should have been there and recognized. If that (recognition), was the intent of the show, I and probably no one knows. They could have named the taping ANYTHING but Motown 45 and it would have sufficed. My hat is off to the acts that were there, they are real troupers. They did the best they could do under the circumstances -- the lack of respect that was shown for their talent and longevity.
Barry, have a heart. Buy your company and the artists back. Put it back together the way it should be. To do that would really be a great legacy. Corporate America has destroyed your dream; the gift you gave to Detroit and the world.

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.211.240) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 07:31 pm:

irmo - I was not there last night, but I agree with you. Motown is no longer the Hitsville/Motown put together with Berry as it's leader. I don't believe there should have been a Motown 45, because the Motown we loved, no longer exist. It should have been named something like Universal presents the New Motown.

My only question is, what did the Funk Brothers do? Did they get any type of recognition?

Top of pageBottom of page   By Juicefree20 (68.161.49.152) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 07:36 pm:

What's up Common? I read the review, they were a bit hard on Kelly. I wonder if the review was written by one of our many Supremes fans? What do you think?

Juice

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.211.240) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 07:37 pm:

Theme being "Honoring the fore-runners and bringing in the new century", along with the new groove, the new style voices, and new technical music.

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.211.240) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 07:39 pm:

"Fairwell Berry Gordy, and thanks for all you've done" and now ladies and gentlement, "The New Motown." (LOL)

Top of pageBottom of page   By The Chosen One (205.188.117.14) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 07:45 pm:

Even though I didn't see the Motown 45 special,from what I have read it seem like it was not what some expected from people performing. I just hope the Motown 50 is here in Detroit, and that we all need to make sure that everyone is involved in the big 50, even if I have to sponsor the event myself with the help of others.If it wasn't for Smokey Robinson, Mr. GOrdy wouldn't be recognized. I find that very disturbing and that if it wasn't for him and others, there would be no Motown specials. So lets make sure Motown 50 is here in Detroit, and make it the best ever. See yall in 5 years.

Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.237.125.253) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 09:03 pm:

411: "MOTOWN 45" (and see informational note below)


* MARTHA REEVES & THE VANDELLAS (Lois & Delphine) - Wearing different, classy, stage-sparkling dresses; Martha w/ classic tambourine.

> "Dancing In The Street" {full production}


* THE TEMPTATIONS - Update: Although they were not physically at the show, they were filmed via satellite video and this segment will be shown on the actual M-45 t.v. show. That is classic-M newz!


* THE FUNK BROTHERS - All in the now 5-member group were there and performed.

> "What Becomes Of The Broken-Hearted?", accompanied by KIMBERLY LOCKE

> "Do U Love Me?", featuring newer Motowner GERALD LAVERT


CHANGE in M-45 Airdate: Monday, May 3rd @ 9 p.m.



Note: Updates will continue as I get confirmed 411. There's plenty more to come for S.D. Boarders.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Juicefree20 (68.161.49.152) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 09:22 pm:

Unfortunately, now that Motown is owned by a comglomerate, the Motown that we grew up with & loved, exists only in our minds, hearts & those wonderful songs. The new Motown can never be what the ORIGINAL Motown was. Frankly, they should change the name, as it is so far removed from the original. Once Berry & the great artists, producers, engineers, musicians & singers left, it effectively ceased to be MOTOWN. In my opinion, for them to continue to call the label MOTOWN, is tantamount to pimping the label due to what it used to stand for. In my opinion, they are cashing in on our memories & loyalty & frankly, I don't like it one bit! I wish they'd change the name.

Juice

Top of pageBottom of page   By The Chosen One (152.163.253.70) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 09:32 pm:

Many of you may think that I am in a fantasy world when I say this, but this has been on my heart for a long time.

If and when I do start my own label, I plan to buy Motown Records from Universal and also acquire the Jobete from EMI. I was telling one of my friends that if I was in full control of Motown that I will bring the respect back to the label and close the New York & L.A. offices and bring it on back home.

Right now I only have the power to do it in my mind, but one day I hope I can have the power to run my own label and Motown.

Just a dream away (smiling)

waymon

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.211.240) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 09:35 pm:

JF20 - I know the name had a great deal to do with the price of the company. I wonder how much it cost just for the name.


"Frankly, they should change the name, as it is so far removed from the original." Are you speaking of the Temptations? (Of which the name is owned by Motown.)

Top of pageBottom of page   By Juicefree20 (68.161.49.152) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 10:22 pm:

Hi Sis, good to see you. I mean that the comglomerate that owns Motown should change the name MOTOWN to something else. It's just not Motown anymore & they shouldn't continue to try to cash in on the MOTOWN name. The name Motown used to mean something, it was vital & distinguished itself from every other label. In my opinion, the Motown of today is just like every other label. In my opinion, they're simply cashing in on our memories, to me, today's Motown just isn't special anymore.

Juice

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.211.240) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 10:40 pm:

I agree JF20. Just ain't the same. Even if they were to add something "21st Century Motown." :o) Or "Contemporary Motown USA."

Top of pageBottom of page   By b.soul (64.12.117.14) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 11:09 pm:

Why didn't Lionel Richie perform with the Commodores, and why didn't The Supremes(Mary and Cindy) perform with Diana or Jean or Scherrie.
Why didn't Smokey perform with The Miracles.
Why wasn't The Marvellettes, The Originals, The Pips, The Velvettes, Teena Marie, Debarge, Rick James,Willie Hutch invited?
HOW COULD MOTOWN CELEBRATE 45 YEARS WITHOUT THE PERFORMERS WHO PROVIDED THE HITS DURING THOSE 45 YEARS?
DISAPPOINTING?
DISAPPOINTING?
DISAPPOINTING?

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.211.240) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 11:21 pm:

If we were to wait for the 50th, quite a few of the original Motowners may not be around to perform. God forbid.

We may need more handicap spots, and ramps for us old timers to get into the auditorium. :o)

Top of pageBottom of page   By Juicefree20 (68.161.49.152) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 11:22 pm:

Hey b.soul. I hear you. If you look back into the archives, KevGo & myself posted a link that contained a statement from the producer of the show. If you find it & read his statement, he kind of laid it out there for us. As far as The Supremes are concerned, Stonewall posted that Diana wasn't at the show.

Juice

Top of pageBottom of page   By The Chosen One (152.163.253.70) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 11:31 pm:

Well, when the Motown 50 is in place. I'll be sure to wheel in everyone in there respected spots at the Fox, which is where it will be likely held if in Detroit.

But I think most will still be around, but if not, there memory and contributions to Motown will be noted and we will make sure that everyone, and I mean everyone who was part of Motown's success get there over due recognition.

Even though this is a fantasy right now, this is what will happen if the label was under my control. (smiling)

You can always dream, but I make sure my dreams will come true.

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.211.240) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 11:34 pm:

The Chosen One - I will definitely be there. Just like I was during the Motortown Revues. :o)

Top of pageBottom of page   By Juicefree20 (68.161.49.152) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 11:47 pm:

Maybe one day, they'll get it right. They refuse to get ALL of the artists from back in the day to participate. I wish that I had the company, or someone who respects & cares about ALL of the early artists, not just the stars. I wouldn't go for the star crap. I would tell them to grow up, cut the bull & perform with their ORIGINAL groups, with none of the nonsense. If not, forget about participating in ANY future productions. I would then allow the original group members to perform either with, or WITHOUT the star. I would also announce the reason for the absence of the "STAR" to the audience. It's time for some of these "stars" to answer to the fans for their star tripping. The only problem with that is that so many "fans" are star struck & simply don't care.
You can't call yourself a fan of a group & excuse the behavior of the lead singer. If people would stop catering to their egos & childish demands, maybe we'd finally see some original reunions. I blame the fans, as long as they're satisfied & accept replacements, there's no motivation for anyone to give up the real thing.

Juice

Top of pageBottom of page   By Shawn1b (65.30.15.198) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 01:19 am:

Hey Stonewalll can I have some promotional pic's of Martha ?!Shawn

Top of pageBottom of page   By Spookey (198.81.26.103) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 02:08 am:

Calm down everyone, pleeeze!! The real Motown reunion or anniersary will be in the works. This was not a production by Berry Gordy or Susan depasse, so lets take a deep breath because I have a feeling, that the "big one," is coming and we all love big ones, right? Well some of us do. Anyways, Diana Ross did not attend, okey, theirs a reason for this; it's because she will appear in a future Motown special with the Supremes, so let's just wait!! and I'm sure all the Motown stars will be there!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By V-Cz (64.12.117.14) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 02:33 am:

Does anyone know if Fuq (Harvey Fuqua) made the Shrine last night?

Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.237.93.170) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 04:24 am:

Conclusion: Soulful Detroit Boarders are the best and most real!

Hey, Shawn, of course, yes, regarding the M.R.V. pix. Just e-mail me at: WLH@nyct.net. As U mentioned elsewhere on The Vandellas' file that U know her, when did U see MARTHA last? Do U live in NY?

Oh, Spookey, some un-answered "?"s for U in prior 'postings' above. Plz. answer! One burning question is whether BRENDA HOLLOWAY was at M-45 or not. I am getting conflicting reports on B.H. To be sure, I hope that B.H. was there.

Surprise! Yeah, JUICEY, you're next. U wrote that: "Once the great artists left Motown..."!? Hello, I believe that some of their greatest stars were/are DIANA ROSS, SMOKEY ROBINSON, THE TEMPTATIONS and STEVIE WONDER and all of them are still with Motown Records. So, they don't have to change their name! On this M-45 special -- please wait to see the final product -- it includes classic Motown performers such as SMOKEY, MARTHA, LIONEL, GLADYS, 4 TOPS, JERMAINE, COMMODORES, THELMA, FUNKS, 2/3s of SUPREMES, and, yes, TEMPTATIONS, among others. So, they don't have to change the name! Remember, some M-Stars would like to be at M-45 but it's beyond their control, like Mr. GAYE, FLO, Mr. D. RUFFIN, Ms. WELLS, Mr. KENDRICKS, Mr. STARR, et al. We all miss all of them but it's not Motown's fault. So, they don't have to change their name!

Top of pageBottom of page   By Uptight (69.161.239.218) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 07:58 am:

Miss Brenda Holloway was in attendance at M-45. I only saw her after the show. Then I walked her to her ride.

Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.237.93.170) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 08:22 am:

"Allrite" everything is "Uptight"!

BRENDA HOLLOWAY was 100% at Motown 25! It's been triply confirmed by 2 S/D Boarders, Spookey (e-mail) and Uptight (above post), plus my pal Allrite (via phone; he w/ another board 'til I get him here).

Brenda -- with an incredible, powerful and soulful voice, as we all know -- could have/should have been the lead singer of THE SUPREMES for the evening at the M-45 show instead of Miss Whatshername. Can U imagine Brenda belting out "U Keep Me Hangin' On"? Besides, those three women know each other a good 40 years! Not like w/ Kelly Row for a bad 40 hours. Imagine, that girl, more than 30 years younger than MARI and CINDY, on the stage singing with the classic Motown Supremes and sitting in the audience is Miss Brenda "Just Look What You've Done" Holloway!? To quote another Brenda song, "Every Little Bit Hurts".

Top of pageBottom of page   By Michael/cleoharvey (206.216.48.156) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 09:17 am:

Most of the members here know that there is always postproduction on TV specials (every live TV show from TCB to Cher's has done this). Many times the performer and musicians will come in and re-record a live performance to correct mistakes in pitch and sometimes bad playing. I am going to wait to SEE the special before I make and dire predictions about the state of our musical world.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Spookey (198.81.26.103) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 01:36 pm:

As you know I did not attend MOTOWN 45. I spoke with Brenda Holloway, Kim Weston the day before the event and Brenda said she was going and I'm surprized that she didn't attend any After Party or hang out backstage or something!!

Anyways, Brenda told me that theirs no way in hell that her sister would have went to the record meet that was held at the Shrine and our UK friends. Brenda and Patrice did not attend that event as posted elsewhere. Just clearing things up, Spookey's way!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By irmo (198.81.26.103) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 01:57 pm:

HMMMMMMM?
I thought Gerald Lavert had his own label. With Motown now? Hmmm?
Juicefree 20 - thank goodness we have our memories!!
TheChosenOne - dreams do come true; if you can dream it, you can achieve it!!!
SisDetroit - doesn't Otis Williams own the name The Temptations?
bSoul - Amen! But, then, it wasn't truly Motown (45) as we would know it, knew it to be back in the day!
Michael/cleoharvey -I certainly hope that is the case. I would be awfully embarrassed although I had nothing to do with the production, to see what was taped presented. I am one of those people who can hear one of my favorite songs from an original Motown group, and immediately phase back to the "moment" of when that song meant so much. At the taping when Gladys sung Heard it Through The Grapevine, without thinking and with no hesitation I was on my feet doing the Four Corners and the Bump! So, hey, here is to hoping that a fantastic product is presented to the public when it is aired.
If there is going to be a Motown 50, I certainly hope that all that we want, and the public so desperately needs to enjoy, is presented. If the public television networks can get a variety of groups to perform for their fund raising events, aka, "Do-Whop", there is no reason why Universal-Motown-Vivende can't do the same!

Top of pageBottom of page   By Common (209.2.55.170) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 02:05 pm:

Hello everyone,

JF20- I don't know. I think electronic report has their own independent reporters/writers. Some of them are pretty knowledgable(even they are LATE with news) about the music. I don't think I'm that curious to see Motown 45. Motown 40 was boring so this latest installment doesn't sound too intriguing. It's really sad when you think about. Who really wants to wait until Motown 50 when some of the stars who are alive now, may not be alive then??? I wish these folks would capture the remaining living Motown artists on a well organized special. They really deserve it & I think it is long overdue.

Top of pageBottom of page   By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 02:07 pm:

Folks:
Spookey has a point regarding what this Motown 45 thing was and is all about.

There have been postings from the git-go out here on the Forum regarding this topic and the fact that the producers of Motown 45 did NOT want to make this into a TV special/documentary a la Motown 25 and Motown 40 respectively.

The powers that were on this special did cave in to public outcry regarding Justin Timberlake and they replaced him as co-host with Cedric the Entertainer.

As for buying back the Motown name and masters from Universal and "bringing back the glory"? Hey, I would LOVE to see Motown become a stand-alone again but let's face it - distribution and marketing are tied up by the Big Boys (Sony, BMG, Warner Music, EMI & Universal)and independent distribution only works for niche labels and certain larger companies (Koch Records comes to mind). Could Motown survive as a stand-alone in today's climate?

Suggestion - use the "Cycle of Success" model Berry Gordy talked about in his autobiography (create-sell-collect) and start up a new label that has picked up the torch Gordy and other entrepreneurs laid down. From there you find the talent, the sales/marketing/distribution folks, producers, studio session musicians, songwriters, arrangers, support staff and the like that is led by someone with a vision and a plan (hey Waymon!) - and a few bucks in the bank to launch this wouldn't hurt either.

Kevin Goins - KevGo

Top of pageBottom of page   By Soul Sister (65.43.167.6) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 02:25 pm:

Hello Spookey & Stonewall;
When are you going to post Spookey's Photos, inquiring minds would like to see them!(smile)...
Thank You,
S.S.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Handsome (170.118.158.14) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 02:33 pm:

I echo Soul Sister's sentiments....Where, oh Where can those pictures be?

Handsome

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.211.240) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 03:14 pm:

irmo - This court document may or may not convince you that Motown owns the name of The Temptations.

According to court documents, Otis does not own the name of "The Temptations." Apparently, since the name "The Temptations" did not benefit Otis and Melvin when they left Motown, they went back to Motown and gave up ownership of the name back to Motown.

Excerpts from the Court Case: Otis Williams v. Estate of David English. CV99-9349 GHK

"The parties agree that Williams and English later re-signed with the Motown label,... A Motown executive, Jerry Juste, asserted that when they returned to the Motown label, the two used the mark, with permission from Motown for purposes of live performances and that Motown retained full ownership of the marks."

"Williams stated that certain of the rights relating to the Temptations name were reassigned back to Motown, but that he and English retained rights to use the name for live performance purposes. Williams further asserted that he and English continued to use and profit from the Temptations name in the manner set forth in the partnership agreement."

http://soulconcert.tripod.com/soulmusic/id8.html

Conclusion: In reading the court document which I obtained form the internet, portions of which has been placed on the link below, Otis Williams "continue to use and profit from the Temptations name in the manner set forth in the partnership agreement."

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.211.240) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 03:23 pm:

The full court document was not placed on the link because the subject of the case is not relevant to our questions. The suit was filed by Otis against Melvin's widow concerning a different matter.

Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.237.93.170) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 03:28 pm:

More "411": MOTOWN 45 event


* LIONEL RITCHIE - He is the one who opened the show (w/ dancers, of course).

> "All Night Long"

> "Endless Love" {w/ Kelly Rowland}


* THELMA HOUSTON - She is wearing short, multi-colored, floral-type print outfit and blondish, dready hair. Like the other ladies (Gladys, Mari, and Cindy), looks swell and years younger than actual age.

> "Don't Leave Me This Way"


* BACKSTREET BOYS - There are one of the guest speakers.


As Irmo hoped for above, we all do, of course, "M-45" will be presented as a great final product to the public. In other words, we will see MICHAEL JAX and THE MARVELETTES and DIANA ROSS & THE SUPREMES -- even if in fabulous film clips.

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AIRDATE NOTE: Since I tipped off many at the M-45 production company about S.D.B., one of whom I know personally, several are now reading these A-1 Soulful Detroit Boards! They have confirmed that the broadcast date for "M-45" is the original Monday, May 17 (not May 3 -- damn it! -- which was erroneously stated at The Shrine).

Top of pageBottom of page   By bigdaddyg2k4 (205.138.55.54) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 04:20 pm:

Would anybody in the forum agree if I said that Motown 25 was the best and last great Motown celebration that anybody has ever seen or will ever see again? I believe so. But I won't rule out that a proposed Motown 50 celebration (if done right by the right people-a'la Executive Produced by Berry Gordy, Suzanne DePasse and maybe Quincy Jones for extra leverage-with the right artists: ALL OF THE ORIGINAL ARTISTS THAT ARE STILL ALIVE-PERFORMING!-and the right production-moving tributes of EVERY SINGLE SIGNIFICANT Motown artist, flashbacks, and today's artists who CAN EFFECTIVELY SING all the classics) could rival the classic 1983 special with all of the bells and whistles that it rightfully deserves without all of the controversy, past beefs and corporate/production bs.

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.211.240) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 04:33 pm:

Motown Returns To the Apollo is a great piece of work as well.

Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.161.203.40) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 08:35 pm:

In collaboration with STONEWALL, Sir Spookey presents the King of Motown Berry Gordy, Jr. and......Brenda

Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.161.203.40) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 08:44 pm:

One more time... In collaboration with STONEWALL, the inimitable Sir SPOOKEY presents an up-close and personal, on-the-scene location photo of the King Of Motown -- BERRY GORDY, JR. --- and the Princess of Motown -- BRENDA HOLLOWAY:
Brenda


Bi the way, BRENDA just whispered to BERRY: "What Are U Gonna Do When I'm Gone?"

Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.161.203.40) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 08:49 pm:

Hi, y'all and all U naysayers who thought Spookey would never de-liver de-picture, I say, "Wait a minute Mister........"

Credit where credit is due: B&B Photo by Spookey!

Top of pageBottom of page   By Uptight (69.161.239.218) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 09:00 pm:

Michael/cleoharvey: As most TV tapings are done fast and furious nowadays, there was no stopping and starting for any of the artists (except once) during this show. The crew for these kind of shows have it down to a tee. After the finale, the crew began striking the set immediately.

However, the editors most likely will mix and tweek the audio in post-production to perfect levels suitable for everyone's enjoyment for the actual broadcast.

Irmo: Were Gladys Knight and Thelma Houston just the best performances that night? I was dancing, too, and felt like one of the pips during "Grapevine." Miss Houston was more energetic than any of the younger singers on the stage.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Juicefree20 (68.161.24.101) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 10:30 pm:

ALLRIGHT STONEWALL & SPOOKEY!!!!!! Now that's what I'm talking about! That's a great shot, Brenda looks good. I finally have seen a Spookey original, bought to us through collaboration with the one & only Stonewall. I bow to your eminence & magnificence. Thank both of you fine gentlemen & may I add, keep them coming! Credit given, respect due to the both of you. I send yo a hearty thank you for sharing!

Juice

Top of pageBottom of page   By Soul Sister (65.43.167.6) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 11:44 pm:

Good work Stonewall & Spookey, keep it going we want more more!!:) :)
S.S. & all of SD

Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.237.93.170) on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 12:21 am:

Thanx for your kind and motivating words Mr. Juice Free, at your magnanimous and complimentary best; and Miss Soul Sister, who "took time out of her busy day to reach out and touch". We get your other message, too, as in the musical words of K.C. & THE SUNSHINE BAND, "Keep It Comin', Love". I promise all the Soulful Detroiters that we'll slowly but surely keep 'em comin'. I'll "drag" Spookey along.

I must observe, doesn't Ms. BRENDA look great? Incredible! And Mr. BERRY looking so dignified (which he is) and obviously so proud and joyful -- plus accomplished. See them on "M-45" on May 17th.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Juicefree20 (68.161.24.101) on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 03:05 am:

All that I can say is that I want to marry Ms Holloway. She can sing for me anytime!! I guess that I was simply born too late, oh well. Not a bad week for me & my Cali girls. First I learn tha my High School crush, Pat Sylvers is married, now, Ms Holloway is hugging some cat named Berry. Man, I never get a break. Maybe Stephanie Mills is available :)

Juice

Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.237.93.170) on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 04:22 am:

Re: "M-45" Show

* Revised SUPREMES Medley of Hits:

> "U Keep Me Hangin' On" {Cindy lead}

> "U Can't Hurry Love" {Mary lead}

> "Baby Love" {alternate leads}

> "Stop! In The Name Of Love" {all 3 alternate}
(w/ famous Supes hands-thrown-in-the-air-finale)


Did U know? Former lead Supreme (1975 to 1977) SCHERRIE PAYNE was in the M-45 audience! We think she should have been on the stage belting out the lead on all 4 of those SUPREMES' #1 songs!!!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By MotownShow (68.237.93.170) on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 03:15 am:

"Up The Board To The Top"

Top of pageBottom of page   By EILEAN (81.128.102.218) on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 06:25 am:

Well it's all been said - Supremes - what is supreme about two fat old tarts trying to UPSTAGE a D C or D R. I COULDN'T GIVE A TOSS HOW YOU SHITE's DRESS UP MARI AND CINDI BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT FULL OF THEMSELVES (obviously them dresses were thought?). I can not believe those fat old housewives were once supposed to be glam supremes- just look at them, they should be locked up - no grace , no nothing just disgraceing the name SUPREME. I'M sure those blubbery tartlets had a jolly old time, but could they not have done this sort of thing in their toilets with hair brushes. From the stills I JUST could not SEE THE POINT OF IT ALL.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Tony Russi (67.32.240.6) on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 10:53 am:

Ms. Eilean, with all due respect, I don't see the point of your rant.The Supremes have always been SINGERS not models....they have more class then all the J Los, TLCs,Madonnas, Janet Jacksons and all the other MINIMAL talents put together.

Top of pageBottom of page   By David Meikle (81.130.211.124) on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 11:41 am:

Another great excuse for shutting down the old forum.

Eilean you need help.

David

Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.237.93.170) on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 02:11 pm:

Sad slime, sleaze and scum from "EILEAN"; surely not her real identity. U know, here we have some diehard fans from the 1960s demanding every original artist and here are two legendary women who look great -- MARI WILSON "fat"?, I don't think so; CINDY has always been full-figured but nonetheless figured and at M-45 looked radiant -- and some coward slanderer 'rewards' them with a personal assassination ambush. Because of the terminology used such as "tarts", "no grace", etc. this disrespectful missile apparently came from across the ocean in "jolly" old England, where the fans are especially so fond of and extra loyal to THE SUPREMES and their legacy. The SUPREMES as "housewives"? Although they all have a house, to say the least, one word never associated with D.R.S. is "housewives". And since when is someone who just turned 60 last month, in this day and age, considered "old"? Look at Lena Horne and she's 80+! Well, with all the vindictives, we certainly have a physical description of the perpetrator. It's called "psychological projection", minus the talent and the glory.

I can only speak for myself -- nonetheless, what I am sure is the same reaction of Motown fans and human beings around the world -- in this matter, but I would request that the very hands-on Soulful Detroit administrators consider removing that highly offensive and false diatribe posting.

Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.237.93.170) on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 03:00 pm:

P.S. - Oh, Tony, U gotta be joshing when U reply to something like "Eilean" sayin' "with all DUE RESPECT"? She ain't 'due' nor 'respect'. Another case in point from the offenses: that one word she used against the M-45 producers for even having THE SUPREMES on the show is a typo, but "Eilean" was spelling "SH**". She said: "... how you SH**S" dress up Mari and Cindy....". Perhaps the real name of "Eilean" (another typo?) and its real e-mail address should be posted for S.D. boarders to respond directly to "her".

Top of pageBottom of page   By Tony Russi (67.32.240.6) on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 06:32 pm:

Stonewall, its really best to ignore posters like "Eilean" and go to the new Forum. I'm trying to find my "key".

Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.237.93.170) on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 07:37 pm:

U mean the "New S.D. Forum" will be protected from such smut? Imagine what this frump would say about MARILYN MONROE -- if she were alive now @ 75+, over 15 years older than MARI? In fact, so many superstar divas and female singing legends are "older" than MARI such as SHIRLEY BASSEY, TINA TURNER, BARBRA STREISAND, PATTI LaBELLE, DIAHANN CARROLL, ARETHA, GLADYS KNIGHT, NANCY WILSON, RONNIE SPECTOR, DIONNE WARWICK, MARTHA REEVES, SHIRLEY ALSTON, et al. -- and, let's add some British spice, if she were alive: DUSTY SPRINGFIELD. In fact, MARI is a baby in the 60+ club-but-don't-look-it-don-t-act-it! Also, SINATRA was still giving sold-out concerts in Madison Square Garden in NYC not that long ago at what age? 70-what?

As S.D.F.'s D.M. declared: "Eilean" needs H-E-L-P! Yet, she is singin' DIANA ROSS' (who also incredibly just turned 60) "....Don't need no doctor... a nurse is worse".

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.211.240) on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 08:37 pm:

I may as well enjoy being in my 50's while I'm still in my 50's. :o)

Top of pageBottom of page   By MotownShow (68.237.93.170) on Friday, April 09, 2004 - 08:34 pm:

"Let's Go Up The Ladder To The Roof (Up The)"

Toenail note: Rumour has it that "Eilean" fell off its ladder!

Top of pageBottom of page   By Spookey (198.81.26.103) on Sunday, April 11, 2004 - 11:45 pm:

STONEWALL,

thanks for getting it straight!! Ever since my SUPREME BATTLE, I too was fending off loud mouths who signed their name as STONELOVE, almost taking your name!!

I found out who Stoned Love was and I didn't put it pass me that Stoned Love was just putting on a show because he knows who's THE BOSS!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.237.107.94) on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 02:37 am:

More & More 411: "MOTOWN 45" t.v. show (filmed Apr. 4; airs May 17)


>>>>> SMOKEY ROBINSON:

* "Just To See Her"

* "I Second That Emotion" -- duet w/ JOSH STONE (no relation to STONE-wall)


>>>>> THE COMMODORES:

* "Night Shift" {Tribute to Marvin Gaye, Florence Ballard of The Supes and Paul Williams of The Tempts} -- sounds like this is where they will have a real tribute including big pix or film clips of David, Eddie, Mary, Edwin, Junior, et al.


>>>>> JERMAINE JACKSON:

* "I'll Be There" -- duet w/ NICK LACHEY (lead singer of Motown's 98 Degrees)


... and more to come!

Top of pageBottom of page   By MotownShow (68.237.107.94) on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 08:42 pm:

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * MOTOWN 45 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

countdown..... 5 weeks!!!!!

Broadcast Date: Monday, May 17, 2004 @ 9 p.m. (EST) on A.B.C. - T.V.

Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.161.203.40) on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 08:28 pm:

Motown Legend Diva MARTHA REEVES


1,Martha Reeves


The inscription to an officer of the S.V.A. reads: "To Williamson Lee Henderson, the STONEWALL Veterans' Association President, Love & God Bless, Martha Reeves "2003". [This was signed only about four months ago on Dec. 1st, 2003 at B.B. King's Nightclub in Manhattan, NY.

Top of pageBottom of page   By STONEWALL (68.161.203.40) on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 08:33 pm:

Motown Legend Diva MARTHA REEVES


Martha Reeves


The inscription to an officer of the S.V.A. reads: "To Williamson Lee Henderson, the STONEWALL Veterans' Association President, Love & God Bless, Martha Reeves "2003". [This was signed only about four months ago on Dec. 1st, 2003 at B.B. King's Nightclub in Manhattan, NY.

Top of pageBottom of page   By MotownShow (68.237.107.94) on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 04:55 pm:

A promotional photo of one of the stars of Motown 45 has been posted, as promised: MARTHA "Dancing In The Street" REEVES.


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