By David Flynn (213.122.203.250 - 213.122.203.250) on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 01:29 pm:

Looking to fill a few gaps on my database - need the b.side titles to these please.
TIA
Flynny

ADELL - 2001 - THE STEPTONES - YOUR LOVE IS LIKE THE RISING SUN
AUDREY - 112 - JOE L.CARTER - MY LIFE STORY
AUDREY - 3733 - LAWRENCE BROWN - NEED YOUR LOVE
BET IT'S A HIT - 103 - HERMAN GEORGE - WHAT HAVE YOU GOT
BIG B - 850 - DIAMOND UPRISERS - NEW KIND OF JERK
BIG D - 851 - MR.BO & BLUES BOYS - I AIN'T GONNA SUFFER
BIG D - 852 - MR.BO & BLUES BOYS - LOST LOVE AFFAIR
BIG HIT - 111 - JOHNNIE MAE MATTHEWS - DON'T BE DISCOURAGED
BIG HIT - 115 - ELDEES - HELP ME GROW UP
BONNIE - 1002 - TOKAYS - LOST AND FOUND
BOSS - 103 - JOE.L. - IT'S LOVE BABY
BRAX - 221 - MIKE HANKS & THE CONTOURS - CAN I BE YOUR LOVER BOY
C & T - OOO1 - THE TAYLOR TONES - MY HEART WENT ZING
CARRIE - 101 - SPICE - FOR OLD TIMES SAKE
CARRIE - 3000 - OLLIE WIGGINS - WHERE THERE IS NO LOVE
CARRIE - ? - BARONAIRES - I HAVE A FATHER WHO CARES
CARRIE - O11 - RICHARD COMBO - FIREBALL
CARRIE - O12 - JOHNSON BROTHERS - SLEEP WITH AN ANGEL
CARRIE - OO7 - JEAN & DONELLA - GET READY FOR THAT DAY
CARRIE - OO8 - CLYDE BROOKS - SOUL SET
D TOWN - 207 - VOICES OF TABERNACLE - I TRUST IN YOU
D TOWN - 8016 - LEE ROGERS - ROCKIN' SKATES
D TOWN - 8018 - JENA JOHNSON - LIVIN' IN LOVE IN NEW YORK
D TOWN - 9040 - COY'S TOYZ - COME AND GET IT
D.M.D. - 105 - DUANE CALVERT - DO YOU LIVE FOR ME
DEMO RISTIC - 109 - LITTLE STEVIE - I'VE BEEN TO THE WATER
DEMO RISTIC - 777 - CARL CAYTON - IT'S A SIN TO TELL A LIE
DEMO RISTIC - 857 - THE RAVINS - YOUR LOVE IS WHAT I WANT
DIAMOND JIM - 350 - E.J. & THE ECHOES - NEVER EVER LEAVE ME
DIAMOND JIM - 1009 - DIAMOND JIM - THE LEGEND OF DIAMOND JIM
DIAMOND JIM - 3260 - JOHNNY BUCKETT - GOOD MORNING GLORY
DIAMOND JIM - 8786 - THE PLEETAS - I CRIED LAST NIGHT
DIAMOND JIM - 8788 - MR.BO & BLUES BOYS - EARLY IN THE MORNING
DIAMOND JIM - 8793 - THE TERRIFICS - LEAVE US ALONE
DIAMOND JIM - 12329 - FREDDY PRIDE - ROAD OF NO RETURN
GOLD SOUL - 1026 - SATIN DOLLS - SITTING HERE
JAM - 101 - CARL JOHNSON - SCOOPY-DOO
JAM - 127 - SPENCER STERLING - COME BACK TO ME
KAREN - 314 - THE CLASSICS - TWISTIN' 62
KAREN - 316 - THE CLASSICS - THE WHEEL OF LOVE
KAREN - 1551 - THE VOLUMES - AIN'T GONNA GIVE YOU UP
MASTER - 1030 - TRIDETTES - SO STRANGE
MASTER - 3001 - FOUR HOLLIDAYS - DEEP DOWN IN MY HEART
MASTER - 65-5 - DON HEART - SOUL IN THE BACK YARD

By matt (208.130.56.167 - 208.130.56.167) on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 06:06 pm:

flynny: i believe the diamond uprisers b-side is "diamond jerk"; the little stevie is, i think, "movin' on." i have a few of the others but would have to dig them up to check. feel free to e-mail me off-list to remind me...and where's the rest of the alphabet?

best,
matt
finewine@wfmu.org

By Ian W (213.122.183.189 - 213.122.183.189) on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 10:13 pm:

Hi Flynny

We must have similar lists, I'm missing some b-sides too. I've got:

Adell 2001 Steptone Your Love Is Like The Rising Sun (Instr.)
Big D 851 Mr Bo & Blues Boys If Trouble Was Money
Big D 852 Mr Bo & Blues Boys Lost Love Affair (Part 2)
Carrie 12 Johnson Brothers Happy Rock'N'Roll
Demo Ristic 109 Little Stevie Moving On
Demo Ristic 777 Carl Cayton Whispering Grass (Don't Tell The Trees)
Demo Ristic 857 Ravins No One Can Take The Place Of You
Diamond Jim 350 E.J. & Echoes The End Of Our Love
Diamond Jim 1009 Diamond Jim The Legend Of Diamond Jim (Part 2)
Diamond Jim 8788 Mr Bo Never Love Again
Diamond Jim 12329 Freddie Pride My Only Love
Master 3001 Four Hollidays He Can't Love You

Ian

By Joe Moorehouse (205.188.193.47 - 205.188.193.47) on Saturday, June 15, 2002 - 04:38 pm:

Hi Flynny.

Here are a few--some from my collection that I know to be correct, others from various notes and resources that I believe to be correct:

Audrey 112--Joe L. Carter--Don't Cry Baby

Bet It's a Hit 103--Herman George--Mental High

Big Hit 111--Johnnie Mae--Don't Be Discouragaed (can't find my copy this instant, and don't remember whether it's an instro or Part 2)

Bonnie 1002--Tokays--Fatty Fatty Boom A Latty

Boss 103--Joe L.--Norma's Blues

Brax 221--Mike Hanks & the Contours--Christine

C&T 0001--Taylor Tones--Starmaker

Carrie 007--Jean & Donella--One More Step (& I'll Be Home)

Gold Soul 1026--Satin Dolls--Who Took the Sun Away

Jam 127--Spencer Sterling--Poor Fool

Karen 1551--Volumes--Am I Losing You

By Davie Gordon (213.251.162.249 - 213.251.162.249) on Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 07:54 pm:

Hi Flynny,

D-Town 207 "Blessed Assurance"

By acooolcat (61.202.229.133 - 61.202.229.133) on Monday, June 17, 2002 - 02:07 am:

Hi Flynny,
Those D-Town label releases 8016, 8018 and 9040 are not the same as Mike Hanks' label. I believe Lee Rogers started up another D-Town company after he moved from Detroit. I am still in Japan so don't have access to my info' at the moment.
Is the Bonnie label the same as The Magnetics 45?
Cheers, Graham

By David Flynn (213.122.202.139 - 213.122.202.139) on Monday, June 17, 2002 - 06:03 pm:

Thanks gents - keep 'em a rollin' :-)

Maybe do N > S this week, Mr.FineWine :-)

The Bonnie label is indeed the same, Graham.

Flynny
-p.s. Wish I was back in Japan at the moment - C'MON ENGLAND! :-)
-p.p.s. Anyone know a Detroit female group track called "You're so serious"?

By Davie Gordon (213.251.162.249 - 213.251.162.249) on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 01:40 pm:

Flynny, Graham

D-Town was apparently resurrected in the late
'80's / early 90's - I remember seeing a
classified ad. in Goldmine which showed the
D-Town logo and wondered what the hell was
going on. Unfortunately I no longer have the
magazine but I seem to recall an address in
Denver of all places.

There was also talk in the early '90's that
Merrell Fankhauser, leader of psych band MU
was to record for D-Town which he said was
a "Motown subsidiary". As far as I know nothing
ever came of it.

By acooolcat (210.144.20.196 - 210.144.20.196) on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 08:26 am:

Hi Davie, The "new" D-Town company had a Web site at one time and I remember reading about their latest discs, but that was about 5 years ago now.
Graham (still in Japan)

By David Flynn (213.122.202.201 - 213.122.202.201) on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 06:10 pm:

Ding...ding...round two...labels M to W b.side details required!

TIA
Flynny

MAH'S - 1014 - MIKE HANKS - J.F.K.
MAH'S - OOO.1 - THE EGYPTIANS - INKSTER BOOGIE
MAH'S - OOO.6 - MIKE HANKS - J.F.K.
MAH'S - OOO.8 - LEAPING FLAMES - DANCE SOCIAL
MAH'S - OOO15 - THE ROYAL RAVENS - GRAND SPANISH LADY
MALTESE - 104 - RUSTY DAY - I GOTTA MOVE
MARATHON - 257 - FABULOUS HOLIDAYS - I'M SO GLAD
MARATHON - 18475 - HOLIDAYS - LAZY DAY
MARKIE - 109 - FOUR HOLLIDAYS - GRANDMA'S BIRD
MARKIE - 115 - FOUR HOLLIDAYS - I WON'T NEED YOU
MASTER - 1030 - TRIDETTES - SO STRANGE
MASTER - 65-5 - DON HEART - SOUL IN THE BACK YARD
MEDA - 101 - BUDDY LAMP - KEEP ON MOVING
MICKAY'S - 4057 - MEL ANTON & CHECKERS - DON'T TREAT ME THIS WAY
MICKAY'S - 4472 - J.J.BARNES - GET A HOLD OF YOURSELF
MILLAGE - 101 - GRANT ST.EXIT - THAT'S WHY I LOVE YOU
MILLAGE - 101 - KAZIA - I SAY PLEASE
MILLAGE - 101 - TAWNEY VONNE - I SAY PLEASE
MILLAGE - 104 - CONTRAILS - FEEL SO FINE
MILLAGE - 105 - FOUR REPUTATIONS - CALL ON ME
MILLAGE - 105 - KELLY ST.CLAIR - YOU TOOK MY HEART
MILLAGE - 1042 - KELLY ST.CLAIR - DARKNESS ON YOUR MIND
MO-CITY - 7043-44 - DANI RAYE & NATURES WAY - TRY SOMETHING NEW
MUTT - 561 - LITTLE LEON & THE CARAVAN - NICE WOMAN
MUTT - 1011 - DALE JONES - TRAILS OF YOUR MIND
MUTT - 1011 - DALE JONES TRIO - HE WAS IN WATTS
MUTT - 1669 - DETROIT NIGHT RIDERS - NIGHT TIME IN THE GHETTO
MUTT - 1670 - DETROIT NIGHT RIDERS - GETTING FUNKY
MUTT - 8721 - JAKE WAKE & THE SOUL SEARCHERS - SEARCHING FOR SOUL
MUTT - 22422 - CAROL JONES - PROBLEM CHILD (FASTER VERSION)
MUTT - 27316 - JOHNNY WELLINGTON - PAPER HEART
NIMROD - 903 - HERMAN GEORGE - IT BREAKS ME UP INSIDE
NORTHERN - 3732 - POPCORN & HIS MOHAWKS - PRETTY GIRL
NORTHERN - 3748 - MAIDEN SISTERS - THE CLOCK ON THE WALL
NORTHERN - O1002 - GENERAL ASSISTANCE - I'M LOOKING FOR MY ROOTS
NORTHERN DE LA - 502 - THELMA LAVERNE - BABY DON'T YOU LEAVE ME
PALMER - 5038 - JOEY WELZ - MEDLEY OF OLDIES E.P.
PUFF - 1000 - FUZZY BROOKS - I'M IN LOVE WITH YOU
PUFF - 1001 - THE RIVALS - LOVE ME
PUFF - 1002 - ROSE MORRIS & THE DELIGHTERS - I LOVE THE LIFE
PUFF - 1003 - T.J.FOWLER - TASTIE
PUFF - 1004 - THE RIVALS - MAKE UP YOUR MIND
PUFF - 1106 - FABULOUS ARCADES - CAPTAVATION
REEL - 102 - TIMMY SHAW - A LETTER FROM MY BABY
REEL - 117 - THE AMBASSADORS - I WONDER WHY
REEL - 250 - MELLOW DECISIONS - MELLOW DECISION
REEL - 251 - LOUIS CURRY - YOU'RE JUST PLAIN NICE
RICH - 1005 - J.J.BARNES - WON'T YOU LET ME KNOW
RICH - 1737 - J.J.BARNES - MY LOVE CAME TUMBLING DOWN
RICH - 1747 - CORNELL BLAKELY - YOU BROKE MY HEART
RILEYS - 1004 - BRENDA TEE - MY BELIEF
RILEYS - 8785 - OUTCRY - CAN'T YOU HEAR (MY HEARTBEAT)
RON'S - O2 - REGGIE MILNER - SHE'S ALRIGHT
RON'S - O3 - ROBERT WINTERS - SOUL MOTIVATION
RON'S - O4 - REGGIE MILNER - DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A LOVE
RON'S - O5 - ROBERT WINTERS - SOUL MOTIVATION
RON'S - O6 - JOE BERRY - LILEPH
ROSE - 500 - PRISCILLA PAGE - MY LETTER
S.V.R. - 482 - THE TIDAL WAVES - SHE LEFT ME ALL ALONE
S.V.R. - 501 - THE TIDAL WAVES - I DON'T NEED LOVE
S.V.R. - 509 - THE FOUR GENTS - SOUL SISTER
S.V.R. - 514 - UNRELATED SEGMENTS - THE STORY OF MY LIFE
S.V.R. - 515 - THE TIDAL WAVES - ACTION
S.V.R. - 1001 - THE BOYS - I WANNA KNOW
S.V.R. - 1002 - THE BOYS - IT'S HOPELESS
S.V.R. - 1003 - QUINTET PLUS - SHOP AROUND (INST.)
S.V.R. - 1004 - QUINTETTE PLUS - WORK SHOP
S.V.R. - 1007 - THE TIDAL WAVES - SHE LEFT ME ALL ALONE
S.V.R. - 1008 - THE UNKNOWN - SHAKE A ATAIL FEATHER
S.V.R. - UNISSUED - THE PERFECTIONS - LONG TWINE
SAMO - 474 - SOUL PARTNERS - WATCH ME NOW
SAMO - 1147 - RAY REDMOND - YOU DON'T KNOW
SAMO - 4477 - THE ADMIRALS - IN THE BASEMENT
SAMO - 4960 - THE RHYTHM KING - PARTY TIME
SPIN - OOO2 - TONY EWING - I LOVE EVRYTHING YOU DO
STACEY - 2617 - HUNTER & HIS GAMES - HOW YOU GET HIGHER
STAFF - 616 - WILBERT IRVIN - THIS TRAIN
STARMAKER - 1926 - THE TAYLOR TONES - POOR LITTLE GIRL
STARMAKER - 1927 - BETH BYNUM - I'LL SET YOU FREE
STARMAKER - 1928 - THE DEANS - YOU GOT ME BABY
STARMAKER - 1929 - THE CARAVELLES - DEVIL WITH AN ANGELS SMILE
STARMAKER - 1931 - THE DEANS - (LADY OF THE) CARAVAN
STARMAKER - 5001 - THE COMMERCIALS - LOVER'S TRAIN
T.C.B. - 50 - DAVE HAMILTON - THE DEACONS
T.C.B. - 100 - BARRINO BROTHERS - JUST A MISTAKE
T.C.B. - 108 - DAVE HAMILTON - CRACKLIN' BREAD
T.C.B. - 758 - GIP ROBERTS - HUNCHIN'
T.C.B. - 778 - SUE ANN JONES - I'LL GIVE YOU MY LOVE
T.C.B. - 828 - CHICO & BUDDY - PARTY TIME
T.C.B. - 1446 - THE WEBB PEOPLE - BUMP WITH ME
T.C.B. - 1447 - THE MARK-KEYS - HEAVENLY THING
T.C.B. - 5991 - THE THOMAS SISTERS - DO YOU WANNA PARTY
T.C.B. - 6039 - GLEMMIE "BLUE BOY" DERELL - FOUR O'CLOCK BLUES
TEMPLE - 2080 - HARRY REID - CAN'T WE GET TOGETHER (ONE MORE TIME)
TEMPLE - 2081 - FRENCHY & CHESSMEN - EL TACOS
THEODA - 316 - BILLY BARE - MONKEY VS. THE BABOON
THEODA - 3510 - DAVIS & JOE - DOUBLE BAD
ULTRA-CITY - 316 - 21ST GENRATIONS - I NEED LOVE
ULTRA-CITY - 391 - BETTY RENAY - YOU'RE THE ONE FOR ME
VOLUME - 1111 - JAMES UNDERWOOD & OTHEA GEORGE - LITTLE SCHOOL GIRL
WASHPAN - 32937 - JUMPING GINO WASHINGTON - AROUND THE TOWN

By Davie Gordon (213.251.162.249 - 213.251.162.249) on Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 01:30 pm:

Flynny, those SVR numbers are actually
Hanna Barbera (HBR label) numbers. SVR owner
John Chekaway leased masters to HBR and Liberty.

By Davie Gordon (213.251.162.249 - 213.251.162.249) on Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 01:51 pm:

Flynny,

Maltese 104 - I've got this listed as
"Richard Cory" / "Dream, Woman, Dream" by
Jimmy Satan.

I've the Rusty Day single as # 110.

Puff 1001 - "It's Gonna Work Out Fine"

Puff 1002 - "It's No Secret"

Mah's 000.15 - "All Over You"

Re SVR - sorry I should have been more specific,

the numbers 482, 501, 509, 514 and 515 are on
HBR (Hanna Barbera Records)

Pu

By David Flynn (213.1.135.52 - 213.1.135.52) on Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 05:43 pm:

C'mon all you soulfuldetroit.com-ers, we've already done x25+ of them on the *soul-talk* list! ;-)

Flynny :-)

By John Lester (213.122.201.150 - 213.122.201.150) on Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 05:53 pm:

Flynny

I am too old to reach up for my Detroit books these days and even when I find them, the print is too small....PLUS I really ashmaed to say I dont have those tracks on the Rich label

I shall go back to my corner now and hold my head in shame!

By Joe Moorehouse (205.188.193.48 - 205.188.193.48) on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 11:54 am:

Flynny, I spent an hour or more yesterday putting the B-sides to nearly all the records on your list in a separate Word document. When I went to cut and paste it into a message here, it wouldn't take (something about an overloaded server said the message I got). Later I tried and for some reason it wouldn't paste. So I woke up this morning determined to try again when, for reasons too arcane to go into, my computer deleted the document. Perhaps you could fill me in on which records you have already received information about, so I don't have to recreate the whole thing. Then tomorrow (Thursday) I'll fill in the gaps.

By John Lester (213.1.134.85 - 213.1.134.85) on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 10:03 pm:

well done Joe.......I am sure Flynny is more than happy that you made the effort.

Flynny...are you gonna put all these things in a book for ease of reference for the future?

By Ian W (213.122.130.234 - 213.122.130.234) on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 10:54 pm:

Flynny

Like Joe, I tried the same thing yesterday but the website wasn't having it. Let's see if I can do it now:

Label Sequence Artist Title
HBR 482 a Tidal Waves Farmer John
HBR 482 b Tidal Waves She Left Me All Alone
HBR 501 a Tidal Waves I Don't Need Love
HBR 501 b Tidal Waves Big Boy Pete
HBR 509 a Four Gents I've Been Trying
HBR 509 b Four Gents Soul Sister
HBR 514 a Unrelated Segments The Story Of My Life
HBR 514 b Unrelated Segments It's Unfair
HBR 515 a Tidal Waves Action
HBR 515 b Tidal Waves Hot Stuff
Marathon MR-18475 a Holidays Gettin Kind Of Serious
Marathon MR-18475 b Holidays Gettin Kind Of Serious (Instr.)
Markie 109 a Four Hollidays Step By Step
Markie 109 b Four Hollidays Grandma Bird
Markie M-115 a Four Hollidays I'll Walk Right Out The Door
Markie M-115 b Four Hollidays I Can't Wait
Meda 101 a Buddy Lamp Keep On Moving
Meda 101 b Buddy Lamp Land Of Plenty
Mickays 4471 a J J Barnes Lonely No More
Mickays 4472 b J J Barnes Get A Hold Of Yourself
Millage 104 a Contrails Feel So Fine
Millage 104 b Contrails Make Me Love You
Mutt 1669 a Detroit Night Riders Night Time In The Ghetto
Mutt 1670 b Detroit Night Riders Getting Funky
Mutt 22422 a Carol Jones Problem Child
Mutt 22422 b Carol Jones Don't Destroy Me
Mutt 27316 a Johnny Wellington Paper Heart (Part 1)
Mutt 27316 b Johnny Wellington Paper Heart (Part 2)
Mutt 561 a Little Leon & Caravan Nice Woman
Mutt 561 b Little Leon & Caravan I Can't Let Her Go
Mutt 8721 a Jake Wade & Soul Searchers Searching For Soul (Part 1)
Mutt 8722 b Jake Wade & Soul Searchers Searching For Soul (Part 2)
Mutt 1011 a Dale Jones Trio Trails Of Your Mind
Mutt 1011 b Dale Jones Trio He Was In Watts
Puff 1003 a T J Fowler Tastie
Puff 1003 b T J Fowler Tastie #2
Puff 1001 a Rivals It's Gonna Work Out
Puff 1001 b Rivals Love Me
Rich S-1737 a J J Barnes & Dell Fis My Love Came Tumblin' Down
Rich S-1737 b J J Barnes & Dell Fis Won't You Let Me Know
Rich S-1747 a Cornell Blakeley You Broke My Heart
Rich S-1747 b Cornell Blakeley Don't Do It
Riley's DR 1004 a Brenda Tee My Belief (Part 1)
Riley's DR 1004 b Brenda Tee My Belief (Part 2)
Ron's 05 a Robert Winters Soul Motivation
Ron's 05 b Robert Winters Soul Motivation (Instr)
Stacey S 2617 a Hunter & his Games How You Get Higher
Stacey S 2617 b Hunter & his Games Instr.
Starmaker S1931 a Deans (Lady Of The) Caravan
Starmaker S1931 b Deans Chills, Chills, Chills
SVR 1001 a Boys I Wanna Know
SVR 1001 b Boys Angel Of Mine
SVR 1002 a Boys It's Hopeless
SVR 1002 b Boys How Do You Do With Me
SVR 1003 a Quintet Plus Shop Around (Instr.)
SVR 1003 b Quintet Plus Grits N' Grease (Instr.)
SVR 1004 a Quinette Work Shop
SVR 1004 b Quinette Summertime
SVR 1007 a Tidal Waves Farmer John
SVR 1007 b Tidal Waves She Left Me All Alone
SVR 1008 a Unknown Shake A Tail Feather
SVR 1008 b Unknown Night Walkin'
TCB 50 a Dave Hamilton The Deacons
TCB 51 b Dave Hamilton Pisces Pace
TCB 778 a Sue Ann Jones Missing You
TCB 778 b Sue Ann Jones I'll Give You My Love
TCB 100 a Barrino Brothers Just A Mistake
TCB 100 b Barrino Brothers I'll Take My Flowers Right Now
TCB 828 a Chico & Buddy Party Time
TCB 108b b Dave Hamilton Cracklin Bread
TCB 1446 a Webb People Bump With Me
TCB 1446 b Webb People I'm Sending Vibrations
TCB 1447 a Mark-Keys Heavenly Thing
TCB 1447 b Mark-Keys My Sweet Baby
TCB 758 a Gip Roberts Hunchin'
TCB 758 b Gip Roberts with Witch Doctors Hunchin'
TCB 5991 a Thomas Sisters Do You Wanna Party
TCB 5991 b Thomas Sisters Do You Wanna Party (Instr)
TCB 6039 a Glemmie 'Blue Boy' Derrell Four O'Clock Blues
TCB 6039 b Glemmie 'Blue Boy' Derrell My Mother Didn't Lie
Temple 2080 a Harry Reid Can't We Get Together (One More Time)
Temple 2080 b Harry Reid Won't You Come On Home
Temple 2081 a Frenchy & Chessmen Beetle Bebop
Temple 2081 b Frenchy & Chessmen El Tacos
Washpan WM 32937 a Jumping Gino Washington Around The Town
Washpan WM 32937 b Jumping Gino Washington Do The Frog

Most are off label listings from the usual sources and I guess there is the odd mistake. Perhaps we should have some central 'source' of information but I guess this would take up too much website space!

Ian

By David Flynn (213.1.129.168 - 213.1.129.168) on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 08:37 am:

Big, big thanks to Ian, Davie and Joe for taking the time and trouble to help - it is appreciated guys, I can assure you. One day yes I'm hoping to have a fully searchable artist/label/titles database on my website, and this is what I'm heading towards. At present I've listed x100+ labels on there until I can sort the software out (any techie help appreciated!).
Here's the remaining gaps from the second list:MILLAGE - 101 - KAZIA - I SAY PLEASE
MILLAGE - 101 - TAWNEY VONNE - I SAY PLEASE
MILLAGE - 105 - KELLY ST.CLAIR - YOU TOOK MY HEART
MICKAY'S - 4057 - MEL ANTON & CHECKERS - DON'T TREAT ME THIS WAY
PALMER - 5038 - JOEY WELZ - MEDLEY OF OLDIES E.P.
REEL - 102 - TIMMY SHAW - A LETTER FROM MY BABY
REEL - 250 - MELLOW DECISIONS - MELLOW DECISION
RILEYS - 8785 - OUTCRY - CAN'T YOU HEAR (MY HEARTBEAT)
ROSE - 500 - PRISCILLA PAGE - MY LETTER
S.V.R. - 482 - THE TIDAL WAVES - SHE LEFT ME ALL ALONE
SAMO - 474 - SOUL PARTNERS - WATCH ME NOW
SAMO - 4477 - THE ADMIRALS - IN THE BASEMENT
SAMO - 4960 - THE RHYTHM KING - PARTY TIME
STAFF - 616 - WILBERT IRVIN - THIS TRAIN
STARMAKER - 1928 - THE DEANS - YOU GOT ME BABY
STARMAKER - 1929 - THE CARAVELLES - DEVIL WITH AN ANGELS SMILE
T.C.B. - 108 - DAVE HAMILTON - CRACKLIN' BREAD
T.C.B. - 828 - CHICO & BUDDY - PARTY TIME
THEODA - 316 - BILLY BARE - MONKEY VS. THE BABOON
THEODA - 3510 - DAVIS & JOE - DOUBLE BAD
THEODA - - CLIFFORD BINNS - IT WAS ONLY YESTERDAY
VOLUME - 1111 - JAMES UNDERWOOD & OTHEA GEORGE - LITTLE SCHOOL GIRL

Thanks once again!
Flynny

By Joe Moorehouse (205.188.197.31 - 205.188.197.31) on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 12:31 pm:

Here are a few:

Reel 102 - Timmy Shaw - Throw It Out Your Mind

Riley's 8785 - Outcry - Gravy Covered Fruitcake

Rose 500 - Priscilla Page - Dreaming

Samo 474 - Soul Partners - Hot Mama

Samo 4960 - Rhythm King - Party Time (I don't remember offhand whether this is listed as Part 1 and Part 2 or not)

Some other notes:
SVR 482 was actually HBR 482 and is listed with Ian's info. The correct A-Side title of SVR 104, Quintette Plus, is Work Song, not Work Shop.

The two TCB sides listed were unreleased and, based on the notes in the Kent CD called Dave Hamilton's Detroit Dancers, were apparently not assigned B-sides. According to that document, TCB only released two singles--Sue Ann Jones and the Barrino Brothers. All the others listed were recorded but never issued.

I sold a Davis and Joe on Theoda to an occasional contributer to this forum, so maybe he can chip in with the B-side info on that. I also just loaned my Underwood and George on Volume to a friend, so I should be able to supply that one when it's returned to me. I may also have info about that Caravelles on Starmaker, but I can't seem to put my hands on it right now.

The remaining Millage records are a mystery to me. As far as I'm aware, I've never seen them. Another I've never seen but would love to hear is Clifford Binns on Theoda. Is it anywhere near as good as his Carrie record?

By Ian W (213.122.74.176 - 213.122.74.176) on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 09:52 pm:

Davie, Joe & Flynny

Is Theoda a Detroit label? I just found a copy of J E Morgan 'By My Side' and, apart from Ann Perry, I didn't know any other 45s on the label.

I bought the record at the same time as meeting Dennis Coffey in Beating Rhythm. It played fine in the shop but my warped mind affected the record and when I put it on the turntable at home, the needle had vertigo as it dived off the vinyl. Any non brutal suggestions for flattening the warp?

By john lester (213.1.137.99 - 213.1.137.99) on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 10:03 pm:

yeah

...put it on the TV under a heavy book...the warmth from the TV works through after a while.

...dont put it in the oven like someone I know did....

By Ian W (213.122.74.176 - 213.122.74.176) on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 10:37 pm:

Ouch! Someone once told me you can make a nice plant-pot out of a 45 by supporting the vinyl at the edge and putting something heavy on the label. The whole thing goes in the oven. Voila!

By david, glasgow, scotland (62.252.128.5 - 62.252.128.5) on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 10:40 pm:

Ian

Theoda was based at 2618 Buena Vista in Detroit.

It was owned by Theoda Moore.

By Ian W (62.172.135.35 - 62.172.135.35) on Friday, June 28, 2002 - 06:55 am:

Thanks, David. I'll add the info to my file.

By acooolcat (211.78.28.76 - 211.78.28.76) on Saturday, June 29, 2002 - 03:36 am:

Strange, I posted a listing yesterday but it's never arrived. Here's another attempt!

Big D 850 - this is on the Riley's label (not Big D)...
850 A - New Kind of Jerk (Diamond Jerk)
850 B - Diamond Jerk (New Kind of Jerk)

DMD 105 - I'm Not Your Toy
MAH'S 000.1 - The Party Stomp
MAH'S 000.8 - Cider Spider
MAH'S 0015 - All Over You
Master 1030 - Know What You're Doing
Master 65-5 - Bring Back The Love
I reckon Markie was a Chicago based label.
Northern 3732 - You're The One
Northern - 3748 - Memories
Reel 117 - Power Of Love (also on Bon and Carlton)
Reel 250 - The Slider (different label to above)
SAMO 1147 - You Say You Love Me
Spin 002 - Baby

I read in the "Before Motown" book that Staff issued jazz records in the 50s; Maybe this is one of them?
Joe, I can put Clifford Binns on a tape for you.

Volume 111 - He's Gonna Put You Down

All the best, Graham - back in Taiwan.
PS - Flynny - England were a massive disappointment.

By david, glasgow, scotland (62.252.128.5 - 62.252.128.5) on Saturday, June 29, 2002 - 10:21 am:

Graham

Nice to have you back on a daily basis!

By acooolcat (61.222.95.58 - 61.222.95.58) on Saturday, June 29, 2002 - 10:28 am:

David, it's great to see you back here too, where you belong.
Cheers, Graham

By Ian W (213.122.158.55 - 213.122.158.55) on Sunday, June 30, 2002 - 09:24 pm:

Hey Graham, England did OK until Seaman was injured in the Brazil game. After that, I agree! Welcome back!

By acooolcat (211.72.121.66 - 211.72.121.66) on Monday, July 01, 2002 - 08:08 am:

Hi Ian, and thanks for the welcome.
I guess I was hoping for more than "OK" from England - remember this is/was the World Cup finals, and they played Argentina and Brazil, as well as Nigeria - all games that I thought would give me a thrill. Maybe it looked better on TV.
Graham
Soul content; It's So Hard being a Loser - The Contours

By Joe Moorehouse (205.188.193.51 - 205.188.193.51) on Monday, July 01, 2002 - 12:59 pm:

Hi Graham. Thanks for your offer on Clifford Binns--maybe I can respond in kind. Drop me an e-mail when you have a chance. jmoorehous@aol.com

By acooolcat (211.72.121.66 - 211.72.121.66) on Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 04:59 am:

Hi Joe, I tried your address but it bounced back... please drop me a line;
acooolcat@yahoo.com

Graham

By Ian W (213.122.55.224 - 213.122.55.224) on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 08:33 pm:

Carrying on the topic, does anyone have any info re. the following (labels, b-sides etc.)?

David Hall - Look At Me
Edd Henry - I Love Only You
Jimmy Shaw - No More
Lloyd Williams - I Need You Now
Motor City Runners - Watch Your Step Now
Motor City Runners - Under Your Spell
Soul Merchants - Talking 'Bout You Girl

and whether they are Detroit.

Also any Chicago info on the following (OK I know it's not Detroit but....)

Birdlegs & Pauline - Spring
Darrow Fletcher - When Love Calls
Dutones - The Bird
Inspirations - I'll Take A Chance On You
Jo Ann Garrett - Stay By My Side
Simtec Simmons - Some Other TIme
Topics - Have Your Fun

Cheers,
Ian

By acooolcat (61.222.95.58 - 61.222.95.58) on Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 10:35 am:

Ian, from memory...which isn't too acccurate - these are 2 of the labels that I can remember. I'll check when I go home and let you know for sure.
Ed Henry on Big Mack
Timmy Shaw (not Jimmy) on Bon

Wasn't the Dave Hall track on a Joe-Boy CD?

Best wishes, Graham

By david, Glasgow, Scotland (62.252.128.5 - 62.252.128.5) on Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 12:08 pm:

Dave Hall was on Sound115 and was Detroit.

Edd Henry was on NuSound4024 and was Detroit.
Flip was the instrumental version written by Edd and Herman Davis.

By david, Glasgow, Scotland (62.252.128.5 - 62.252.128.5) on Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 12:22 pm:

Nu-Sound was a division of Lando.

Jo Ann Garrett was released on Chess1959 in 1966.
It was her first recording and was cut at Universal which was based at 46 East Walton.

I've got Wally Cox's name next to my Universal Studio notes. I am unsure if this means he owned it or just recorded there!

Here's Jo Ann

By david, glasgow, scotland (62.252.128.5 - 62.252.128.5) on Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 12:38 pm:

The Lando (spelling) detail came off the Edd Henry 45.

There was also a Lendo which has a numbering system similar to Nu-Sound. Again Herman Davis is involved. The Ed Henry 45 must be mis-spelling?

By david, glasgow, scotland (62.252.128.5 - 62.252.128.5) on Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 12:47 pm:

My notes say The Topics "Have your fun" was released on Dreams. Don't know the number.

By Davie Gordon (213.18.222.34 - 213.18.222.34) on Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 12:54 pm:

Birdlegs and Pauline was on VeeJAy 510 - picked
up from the Sauk City, Wisconsin based Cuca label.

The Dutones was on Columbia

I'll check at home for fuller info.

By acooolcat (61.222.95.58 - 61.222.95.58) on Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 01:11 pm:

David, I think I have the Jo Ann Garret disc - is the flip called Whole New Plan?
Graham

By david, glasgow, scotland (62.252.128.5 - 62.252.128.5) on Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 01:38 pm:

Graham that's correct. Difficult to understand why that was a B side. What a wonderful, wonderful track.

So much so Jo Ann deserves another pic

By Joe Moorehouse (64.12.101.152 - 64.12.101.152) on Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 01:42 pm:

The Lendo label is actually Lando, just misspelled. Promos of Rufus Wonder have the spelling with an e. Stock copies have the spelling with an a, though the label design is slightly different from that of other Lando records (e.g., Carl Carlton).

The Soul Merchants 45 was on Tri-City (out of Saginaw, if I remember right--somewhere near there, anyway) and on Moonville USA. The flip is called Tender Loving Care--two excellent sides.

Lloyd W. Williams is a Detroit record on Soul Beat. Someone put up a scan of it on this site within the past month, but I don't remember where; it might have been in a thread about posting images. Although I haven't seen a copy of it on ABC, I have seen listings for it on that label, so apparently it was picked up for national release, though I don't know if it got past the promo stage. The B-side is Be Mine Tonight and is funky. A-side is pure soul.

By Keith Hughes (195.92.67.74 - 195.92.67.74) on Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 06:23 pm:

Ian -

"Watch your step now" as by "the Motor City Runners" was on a 1988 Charly (UK) album called Motor City Magic Vol 2 - don't know any other source.

It was the band track to an as yet unissued cut by the Headliners (of "We call it fun" on VIP "fame") called "Watch your step", which surfaced on various collectors' tape around the same time.

Do you hear the Funk Brothers on this track?

By Ian W (213.122.149.141 - 213.122.149.141) on Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 08:39 pm:

Many thanks, Soulful Detroiters, I think got the original info off tape listings from someone's sales list!

By Davie Gordon (213.18.222.35 - 213.18.222.35) on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 02:13 pm:

Lloyd Williams also on ABC 11195 (3/69) with
"Be Mine Tonight" as the b-side. Presumably the
same coupling as Soul Beat 17158.

Soul Merchants on Moonville USA 1111 (1970)
flip - Tender Loving Care
I think Moonville USA was a subsidiary of
Choker Campbell's Tri-City label based in
Saginaw.

Davie Gordon

By acooolcat (211.72.121.66 - 211.72.121.66) on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 12:16 pm:

Ian,
Bon 003 - Timmy Shaw - Thunder In My Heart
Does anyone know if there was a Bon #002?
David, Do you know of any other 45s on Nu-Tone?
Also, does anyone have the flip side to Little Carl Carlton's Lando 45... #3045 -I Think Of How I Love Her?
TIA, Graham

By Davie Gordon (213.18.222.35 - 213.18.222.35) on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 03:43 pm:

Graham,

Re NuTone - will have to check when I get home.

By Joe Moorehouse (68.41.188.16 - 68.41.188.16) on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 11:22 pm:

Hi Graham. My copy of I Think of How I Love Her is a one-sided acetate, so I can't guarantee this, but I think the flip is I Love True Love. In any case, I do remember that it's a song that was released on another label. Never seen Bon 002.

By acooolcat (61.222.95.58 - 61.222.95.58) on Wednesday, July 10, 2002 - 03:50 am:

Thanks Joe, I wonder if Betty Lavett's Atlantic 45 - My Man - was first released on Bon; Just a hunch.
Graham

By MEL&THEN SOME (195.219.7.54 - 195.219.7.54) on Wednesday, July 10, 2002 - 11:55 pm:

FLYNNY,DID YOU KNOW THERE WAS A TIMMY SHAW-A LETTER FROM MY BABYALSO ON JAMIE RECORDS(1204). MEL(AND THEN SOME)

By Flynny (213.122.202.13 - 213.122.202.13) on Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 03:49 pm:

Sweeping up now:
Edd Henry flipside is an inst take of "I love only you", which was also cut by Carl Carlton on Lando as the flip to his "So what" (3047 & 8527 on WDs).
The Topics is indeed on Dream (#204) out of Chicago and is still mega rare!
Both Motor City Runners tracks were on master tapes acquired by Charly Records licensed from Johnny Powers.
Dave Hall's "Look at me" shares the same backing track as Jimmy Mack's "Go on" on the flip to his "My World is on fire" on Palmer #5019.
I once included Jo Ann Garrett's "Whole new plan" on a album compilation and one reviewer (who shall remain nameless!) commented that she had one of the worst voices ever!

...and finally yes, I was aware of the Jamie issue...another Jamie 45 picking up spins is Roosevelt Jones "I say! that's alright", which also came out on Som Records first....outta Texas possibly. :-)

By Davie Gordon (213.251.162.249 - 213.251.162.249) on Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 01:33 pm:

Hi Flynny,

That Roosevelt Jones is probably from Texas as
SOM was one of Huey Meaux's labels (he also
leased all those Barbara Lynn discs to Jamie)

I'll have to check but I'm pretty certain there
are two Timmy Shaw singles on Jamie.

By acoolcat (211.78.28.72 - 211.78.28.72) on Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 03:45 am:

What's the song title on the flip side to the Rufus Wonder 45 on Lando?
Also, can anyone confirm the flip to Carl Carlton's "I Think Of How I Love Her" Lando 45?
TIA,
Graham

By MEL&THENSOME (195.219.7.101 - 195.219.7.101) on Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 04:07 am:

GRAHAM,WOULD THE B SIDE ALSO BE TITLED-SO UPSET,(SEEING AS THE ABOVE LABEL HAS A MIS-PRINT)AS THIS IS WHATS ON THE LANDO COPY IVE SEEN.THEN AGAIN THE ONE I KNOW IS A RUFUS WOOD AND NOT A RUFUS WONDER,SO ARE WE ON TWO DIFFERENT ARTISTS HERE.MEL(ANDTHENSOME).

By MEL&THEN SOME (195.219.7.34 - 195.219.7.34) on Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 01:18 pm:

REGARDS THE R.WONDER,SOMEBODY HAS PUT THE WRONG NAME,I THOUGHT IT LOOKED BLOODY DODGY.I HAD THE ISSUE,AND FOR SOME,UNKNOWN REASON IVE PUT THAT NAME IN.BUT THE B.SIDE SHOULD BE SO UPSET,NOT A BAD TRACK.IM GOING DOO-LALLY,I BET YOUR ALL MUTTERING,AYE,AYE,HERES MEL,WRONG DETAILS AGAIN.(TAKE ME LORD,IM READY).MEL(I THINK).

By Joe Moorehouse (64.12.97.11 - 64.12.97.11) on Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 02:19 pm:

Graham, this doesn't constitute a guarantee about the flipside of I Think of How I Love Her, but I remembered the other day that I actually have two one-sided RCA Carl Carlton acetates that I got from the same person at the same time. One is I Think of How I Love Her, and the reference number on it is RK4M-6956. The other acetate is I Love True Love, and the reference number on it is RK4M-6955. Given that these two disks were assigned adjoining numbers by RCA, it seems very likely that they were A and B sides of the same 45. Both of these do say "Lando Acetate" on them, and the recording of I Love True Love is the same one that also appears on Golden World.

By acooolcat (61.222.95.58 - 61.222.95.58) on Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 07:06 am:

Thanks Joe and Mel.
Hey Mel - is your title something to do with the Soul City label?
Graham

By skip (12.2.196.17 - 12.2.196.17) on Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 01:46 pm:

who were the steptones are they from detroit and what label did the sing with skip

By MEL&THENSOME (195.219.7.28 - 195.219.7.28) on Friday, August 16, 2002 - 04:18 am:

Skip,there was a Steptones that recorded on the detroit Label,Diamond Jim.(lonely One-Diamond Jim-8794).MEL.