By T-Roy (209.240.222.130 - 209.240.222.130) on Friday, May 17, 2002 - 08:59 pm:| By T-Roy (209.240.222.130 - 209.240.222.130) on Friday, May 17, 2002 - 08:59 pm: |
I also heard the sons have more tracks to release. Joe Doc, what a voice, and there harmony, what a blend, I can't wait to here the new songs. I also heard they have some early basement tapes, accapella, and some practices with just guitar, bass, and drums.I'm looking forward to hearing them. Also any news about the Sons would be appreciated.
| By BASSMAN (67.24.220.140 - 67.24.220.140) on Friday, May 17, 2002 - 10:09 pm: |
ROY How you been ,those crazy whiteboys are at it again,Patcheye phillips,franny and flic are ready to release all their canned material from the old SigmaSound days,WE all are well and and ready to go.Good to hear from you.
| By KarenGen (151.199.239.122 - 151.199.239.122) on Monday, May 20, 2002 - 04:46 am: |
A lot of memories, those summers in A.C. Watching the Sons on the steel pier.
Does anyone rememeber them on the old Jerry Blavet dance show. What a
trip. My favorite Sons song wasn't one of their singles. It went ...."Girl you took
the best of me, come and get the rest of me" Will it be on their new CD?
| By Eli (170.115.179.118 - 170.115.179.118) on Monday, May 20, 2002 - 09:26 pm: |
Karen, How do you know that song?? It never was released!! Yes it is on the CD.
Bunny Sigler and Phil Hurtt wrote it.
| By KarenGen (205.188.192.154 - 205.188.192.154) on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 06:56 pm: |
Fran is my uncle. We thought the line was " come and get the recipe" We were kids then but we knew all the songs. My Mom would sneak me into clubs and I loved when the group did "Old Man River" My uncle had a solo. Later as a teen I went on the blavet show when the Sons were on. That was over 25 years ago. You know what, when you see Jerry today he looks exactly the same.
| By Uncle Eli (170.115.179.119 - 170.115.179.119) on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 05:30 pm: |
I like "recipe" Karen.
Old man river may also be on the cd thanks to the lost "basement tapes"
| By Ian W (213.123.44.202 - 213.123.44.202) on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 09:52 pm: |
The recipe bit reminded me of when I was a teenager trying to find some soul 45s. The amount of lyrics we misheard caused us to miss lots eg. 'There's No Stars In Our Eyes' by the Supremes. The best was 'What's So Easy For Two' - we tried every Motown record with 'two' in the title. We'd bought quite a few before the correct one was stumbled across. Well you couldn't go up and ask the deejays could you!
| By Steve Green (207.42.32.52 - 207.42.32.52) on Thursday, July 04, 2002 - 02:49 am: |
I'm new to this venue, folks. It was just yesterday that I was going through some old notes and titles leftover from the WPGR Philly Gold Radio days and downloaded a few of them.
'Got To Get You Back' by TSORS was one.
Deliriously early-70's Philly, it then got sent to a few people on ICQ. One gal who heard it said 'they sound WHITE!'. Never occured to me to that point; the song sounds so full of Sigma and the Schuylkill that it was a natural add to that collection even if were four people on the FBI list.
My question is, who are these guys, who wrote that song, where are they from, and did they do anything else like it?
| By david, glasgow, scotland (213.122.72.90 - 213.122.72.90) on Thursday, July 04, 2002 - 07:45 am: |
Welcome to the forum Steve.
Unfortunately the man Himself, Bobby Eli, is in hospital otherwise you would probably know by now!
Try using our 'search forum' function by typing "sons of robin stone" (include the inverted commas). They have been discussed before.
| By Carl Dixon London (62.31.32.130 - 62.31.32.130) on Thursday, July 04, 2002 - 08:21 am: |
Hi Steve Green - Glad you mentioned the Schuykill. That must be the river that runs through the city? Bobby has all the answers on this one. Indeed, search the forum and you will find some info about them!
Cheers
| By Frans Big Sister (151.199.240.95 - 151.199.240.95) on Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 02:32 am: |
--Steve, greetings!
The Sons of Robinstone were/are White Singers.
My Brother, "BassMan" visits this site
frequently. Four of the group are still living.
Joe Doc, Leadsinger on most of their songs, passed
away a couple of years ago.
Right now, the remaining guys, are working on
getting out some of their work which was recorded,
in the 70's, but not released. Bobby Eli was
working with them on it. I was driving home
from the Jersey Shore this afternoon listening
to a tape cassette of their music, made from an old reel to reel, and just can't wait to hear these songs re-mastered on a CD.
If you go to www.steelpier.com, you can see some
old photos of the group.
Marylyn, Sister of one of the "Sons"
| By david, glasgow, scotland (62.252.128.5 - 62.252.128.5) on Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 10:59 am: |
| By Davie Gordon (213.18.222.35 - 213.18.222.35) on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 02:15 pm: |
"Got To Get You Back" is on a Kent CD "So Soulful
70s" issued about two years ago.
| By FransBig Sister (151.199.241.50 - 151.199.241.50) on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 04:19 am: |
--Is that a British Label Davie?
I'll pass this on to my brother Fran, "Bassman".
Thanks for the information.
Marilyn
| By Ritchie (62.254.0.6 - 62.254.0.6) on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 07:28 am: |
Hi Marilyn
Kent is a UK label, the Classic Soul imprint of reissue specialists Ace Records. You can find their website at:
http://www.acerecords.co.uk
At the foot of the homepage there's a drop-down list "search by label". If you find "Kent" that'll take you straight to the relevant catalogue.
PS - So Soulful 70s is # CDKEND 175
| By FransBig Sister (151.199.239.90 - 151.199.239.90) on Wednesday, July 10, 2002 - 03:44 am: |
---Thanks for the website.
I have the original 45 on ATCO, (Atlantic).
"Got to Get You Back" is actually the B side of
the record. The A side, "Love is Just Around
The Corner" never quite made it.
In the fifties and sixties, our mother actually
worked at the company that pressed Sun and
some other labels. She inspected the records and
brought home the ones that were considered
defective, maybe a torn label etc. They
pressed records of Elvis, Johnny Cash, Fats Domino, Bill Haley and many
others. I use to give the "defective 45's to
my girlfriends. I only wish now that I had saved
some, as they are probably very valuable.
Marilyn
| By Flic (205.188.209.48 - 205.188.209.48) on Friday, July 19, 2002 - 05:09 am: |
Hi:
Greetings from Flic (one of the original Sons of Robin Stone, I will be happy to answere any questions anyone might have about the group.
| By Frans Big Sister (151.199.237.234 - 151.199.237.234) on Friday, July 19, 2002 - 05:29 am: |
--Hi Flic, long time no see.
Remember the time you were playing Steel Pier,
and after the show, the group was walking off the
Boardwalk, when a giant wrestler(who also was
appearing there) threw his teenage
daughter, down on the boardwalk, she started choking and you were the only one to confront him?
Wow, I thought he was going to pulverize you,
but he came to his senses and got off of her.
Wild Nights at the Jersey Shore.
Marilyn
| By Flic (64.12.97.11 - 64.12.97.11) on Friday, July 19, 2002 - 05:45 am: |
Hi Marilyn,
Nice to talk to you.
I have no recollection of the incident you mentioned, but I also am glad I wasn't pulverized.I saw Franny today and heard the remixes, they sound fine, I especially enjoyed the basement tapes, I'm glad they edited out the arguments, so many memories.
| By Steve Green (207.42.38.105 - 207.42.38.105) on Friday, July 19, 2002 - 06:54 am: |
Hya Flic,
The even-money wagering here says that Jefferson-Hawes-Simmons were the songwriters of 'Got To Get You Back'. Doubtless with Thom Bell as chaperone.
(And perhaps some of the other Mighty Three Music wizards had some input)?
Corrections welcome if the consortium here (Allentown PA) is incorrect, as it usually is in these crucial matters.
| By Flic (64.12.97.11 - 64.12.97.11) on Friday, July 19, 2002 - 08:39 am: |
Sorry Fellas,
Bobby Eli penned the tune.
Flic
| By KarenGen (205.188.209.48 - 205.188.209.48) on Friday, July 19, 2002 - 06:37 pm: |
Hi Flic, I have a bunch of photo's of you on the steel pier. I'm sending them to Franny.
Do you remember who sang lead on "Love is just a Merry-go-round? It doesn't sound like Joe or Jimmy, Fran says it's from Studio editing. Those Basement tapes are great, I wish they had home movies of them.
| By flic (64.12.97.11 - 64.12.97.11) on Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:47 am: |
Hi Karen,
Can't wait to see the photos.
If you mean "Love is (just around the corner)", Joe Doc sang the lead vocal.
The basement tapes ARE quite good. Listening to them thirty years later gives me a different perspective. Those kids could sing. I do believe we paved the way for artists such as NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK. By the way, you're better off without home movies, we did more arguing then singing.
Flic
| By KarenGen (205.188.209.48 - 205.188.209.48) on Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 05:20 am: |
Hi Flic, No it wasn't the song you mentioned, it was some new stuff I had never heard before, Fran had it.
Something about Loves ups and downs. I know Bobby wanted to release something new and this one was really catchy. You're right about being the original boy group, all the girls had crushes on you(no wonder your in almost every pic I took) Karen
| By Flic (205.188.209.48 - 205.188.209.48) on Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 05:35 am: |
Karen
Franny has songs that I know we sang but for the life of me I don't recall the songs or recording them. Also, I believe you have me confused with JIMMY PHILlIPS, He was the one all the girls liked.
Flic
| By KarenGen (152.163.197.63 - 152.163.197.63) on Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 08:12 pm: |
Ok here's a Question how did you get your nickname, how about Patcheye? He never wore a patch that I could remember. Also along the songs line, Did either you or Patcheye sing lead on any of the Studio recording?, How about those cover songs? I can tell Doc's voice and most of the times Jimmy, and of course my uncle sings lead on Toe-Tapping and the Devil Crys( its funny, we never knew the names of most these songs so we guess). You forget, I guess, I knew the group throughout my teen years. I could hardly mix you guys up, I use to dance with you down my parents basement during their parties. And I have Pop's little shore house
in NCM. I bet you have some memories of that place.
| By Flic (68.46.72.231 - 68.46.72.231) on Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 09:49 am: |
Karen,
The guys I grew up with gave me the name for the simple fact that I love movies. Believe it or not John was accidently struck by a thrown rock right under his eye and he had to wear a bandage for a few days, hence the name Patcheye. Neither John nor I sang lead vocals in the studio, but we did plenty while performing on stage. John gravitated toward R and B artists such as Issac Hayes and Billy Preston, while I did mostly swing jazz and show tunes, e.g. Mac Arthur's Park, Cabaret and Sinatra tunes, Which by the way I still do at clubs and restaurants. I do have fond memories of Pop Flynn and the NCM house, we used to stay there during our Steel Pier gigs and Pop would make us bologna sandwichs.
| By KarenGen (64.12.97.11 - 64.12.97.11) on Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 07:15 pm: |
Thanks, I hope this really takes off for you guys.
The Sons had some bad breaks and maybe once Bobby gets better you'll get a good one.......Good Luck
| By BASSMAN (67.25.12.63 - 67.25.12.63) on Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 09:27 pm: |
Marilyn,Karen and Flic. (BASSMAN) Fran here.Im about to break down and cry,reading your walk down memory lane,on A lighter note,Flic it was great to see you Thursday its good to be with old friends such as yourself after all these years,we made some great music,did't we.By the way folks access(jamessteel.com)and you can here some of Flics latest efforts,Flic you sound great.By the way I would like all you guys to say a prayer for Bobbie E for A fast recovery,hes one hell of a guy who we want healthy,and back working with us
| By Lynn Bruce (64.233.239.172 - 64.233.239.172) on Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 10:33 pm: |
Philly musicians:Have any of you heard of a sax player from Philly by the name of Bobby Borda.I met him in D.C. in 1960.I was with a Detroit group playing around the corner (14,th& I street)from his Philly group.He could play harlem nocturn in freak notes,he was something elseWe kept in touch for a while.The last letters from him,were from L.A saying he was going to Vegas to play.It,s a bitch meeting pisanos that if they lived in the same city,they would be godfather to one of your kids,but when your on the road you never see them again.
Lynn Bruce
| By Ralph (209.240.222.130 - 209.240.222.130) on Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 10:44 pm: |
Lynn,
I met Steve Cropper that way long ago. I don't even remember where. We were both young and in bands on the road. We kind of hit it off and then both bands went their separate ways. you're right Lynn. It just works out like that at times.
| By Flic (64.12.97.11 - 64.12.97.11) on Monday, July 22, 2002 - 12:51 am: |
(bassman) Fran:
Great seeing you and Linda again. And the new remixes of the SORS songs....WOW, Dem young boys was good. Can't wait to have my own copy. My kids are having a good time reading all the messeges about the SORS, so people, keep them coming, all the stories, Fran you must have a million of them, post them so we all can enjoy them.
Thanks for pluggin my website, but its www.Steelmusic.net
We all wish Bobby a speedy recovery, keep me posted on his progress.
ps. Talked with John(Patcheye) on the phone he sends his best wishes to all and says he's feeling much better.
FLIC
| By Ralph (209.240.222.130 - 209.240.222.130) on Monday, July 22, 2002 - 01:42 pm: |
FLIC,
Thanks for hanging with us. Good to have you here.
| By buttercup (167.21.195.72 - 167.21.195.72) on Monday, July 22, 2002 - 02:11 pm: |
Ok, here's another vote for Flic being the one all us "teenage girls" were crazy about. Not to embarass you Flic, but you were hot! (Patcheye wasn't bad either) My name is Peggy Penfold and I grew up next door to MacCulloughs in NCM. Karen and I have remained friends and see each other often. Last week she let me listen to the CD's and they brought back such wonderful memories. I can remember you guys living next door to me when you were playing steel pier. I was so thrilled listening to your music and can't wait to buy the CD's. "Love is just around the corner" and "Gotta get you back" are my favorites.
Question: I remember you guys out water skiing one time and someone fell into jelly fish. I think it was you. You came to my house and my Mom put stuff on your back (can't remember what) and you stood in our dining room in front of this big window fan we had. What is you?
Fran: why don't you come visit sometime? I still live in NCM. Actually, I moved back into my parents home after my dad passed away in 1996. I did alot of work on the house and ended up selling it in 1999. I miss having Karen as a neighbor but see her whenever she's down. I have such great memories of Grandpop Flynn. Remember the cocky pickle (sp?)?. He used to put me on the dog and let me ride around his yard when I was really small. For my birthday he would tape quarters into my card. And let us never forget his nickname for me, "Buttercup". Not having a grandpop that lived close by it was so nice to have Pop Flynn.
I've enjoyed reading all the messages and can't wait to buy the CD's. Good luck to all of you and THANKS FOR THE MEMORIES!
| By deb (66.88.181.178 - 66.88.181.178) on Monday, July 22, 2002 - 03:07 pm: |
Hi Fran: I always wondered what happened to you. We spent a lot of time together when you were recovering from the car accident. I lived two doors down from Pop Flynn, had 5 other brother and sisters, 2 of them were sisters and I know you always liked my middle sister Lori. You use to come up and hang out and play cards at her house, because at the time she lived up on the next block. Loved your voice and thought all of you guys were just too cool!
deb
p.s. Flic, it was Patcheye that was the hottie, but I seem to remember you weren't too bad yourself. I also remember the jellyfish incident!
| By Flic (152.163.189.129 - 152.163.189.129) on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 03:35 am: |
To Peggy, Pop's buttercup...and Deb,
Do I know how to make a lasting impression on the chicks or what? Just be attacked by a school of jellyfish, it works every time.
Ps..Buttercup--A belated thanks to your Mom for nursing me back to health.
Flic
| By buttercup (167.21.195.72 - 167.21.195.72) on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 01:48 pm: |
Hey Flic:
I'll pass the message to my Mom. I checked out your website and your still hot. Looking forward to the CD's coming out. Take care of yourself and good luck in the future.
| By Bass Man (67.24.223.54 - 67.24.223.54) on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 09:50 pm: |
karen ,
thanx for the pictures . i got a real kick outta seeing myself skinny! i e-mailed them to flic
yo flic !
check these pictures out!
we look pretty good in them bannana suits .
i'll call you bout meeting with the rest of the guys . there exited about it.
talk to you soon
| By Chaz Mc (209.214.5.104 - 209.214.5.104) on Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 04:34 pm: |
Greetings to all the Sons and their fans. Oh the memories!! I hope to get a copy of that CD. Lets remember our fallen brothers in our prayers as well. Living the good life in South Florida, open for company your all welcome.
Charlie McShane
| By Flic (64.12.97.11 - 64.12.97.11) on Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 07:38 am: |
Charlie:
Good to hear from you,
TO ALL IN THE FORUM....Charlie is a real celebrity...He has done stand in work for major motion pictures....He is now working in an upcoming Denzell Washington film...hope I'm not letting a cat out of the bag Charlie.
Flic
| By Chaz Mc (209.214.1.65 - 209.214.1.65) on Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 04:59 pm: |
Flic,
Great to hear from you also!!!I pray that your family is healthy and happy. Give my best to Ellie.
| By Chaz Mc (209.214.1.65 - 209.214.1.65) on Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 05:03 pm: |
TO ALL IN THE FORUM,
Warm welcome and Peace to all. Flics words are kind but a little premature. Heres my E-mail if anyone wants to reach me usmc8645@hotmail.com