By Vickie (64.236.243.243 - 64.236.243.243) on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 08:48 pm:

Hey ALL,does anyone have an e-mail address for Jimmy Ruffin?
I have been looking and can't get any contact info on him, I found a booking agent in UK but have no response yet..
Vickie
TammiProject@aol.com

PS: besides the book research, I am enjoying all of you so much, I'm learning a lot of things from you..KEEP IT GOIN!

By Carl Dixon London (195.153.219.170 - 195.153.219.170) on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 08:52 pm:

Vickie

I have tried that booking agent too, with no response. The one with the big JR b/white photo on! I have emailed Edwin Starr and have asked if he knows the whereabouts of Mr Ruffin. They both live in the UK.

By Vickie (64.236.243.243 - 64.236.243.243) on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 09:17 pm:

thanks, Carl..
I keep trying, if you find him let me know.
Vickie

By John Lester (213.1.130.148 - 213.1.130.148) on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 09:19 pm:

Jimmy lives in a chic part of London....

Queensway/Nottinghill Gate area...

Not for the likes of common cockney's like me!

By Vickie (64.236.243.243 - 64.236.243.243) on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 09:33 pm:

John you always say the funniest things!

I think of you everytime I have a chees samich!

I will check those areas and see if I can find him..
Thanks, Vickie

By Ritchie from up in tNorth (62.254.0.6 - 62.254.0.6) on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 09:43 pm:

John

You may be many things, mate but "common"? Are you serious, guv? You're one of those Pearly Kings, aren't you?

By Carl Dixon London (195.153.219.170 - 195.153.219.170) on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 09:45 pm:

That reminds me John, How's your cockles, jellied eels and spotted dick these day??

By brianday (212.137.159.30 - 212.137.159.30) on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 10:49 pm:

about jimmy ,i went to butlins last year and he cancalled also he was supposed to start a radio show on radio 2 ,but that fizzeld out , i did a follow up through some agents
and the feed back was that due to the temptations
story ,he was totaly fed up , with what was said about his brother david, quite rightly, he was flying back to the states to support his family
and to see lawyers ,that was six months ago.however i hope that one day he will return
to singing,bobby must have met him on the philly session he did,maybe he knows more?

By phillysoulman (152.163.207.213 - 152.163.207.213) on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 11:01 pm:

Hi guys and gals, How y'all doin'????
First my Spotted Dick is just fine. No complaints!!
The Jimmy Ruffin session that I produced for Epic, was done in 1977. The titles were; Leading Lady, Looking Back, and I finally found out. The first two were my songs and the last one was by Dean and Weatherdspoon. The sessions were never released due to a change in the heirarchy at Epic.
Corporate crap at its best!!!
I am researching the possibility of remixing some of my unreleased masters for future release.

By Ritchie (62.254.0.6 - 62.254.0.6) on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 11:05 pm:

Bobby

Let's hope we can look forward to it sometime. There's so much more to our Jimmy than "What Becomes Of.." and its various clones - the song that defines Jimmy for many folks who don't know better.

By brianday (212.137.159.30 - 212.137.159.30) on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 11:06 pm:

didnt you do "tell me what you want "as well? that came out on polydor here

By phillysoulman (152.163.207.213 - 152.163.207.213) on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 11:13 pm:

That one wasn't mine

By Vickie (64.236.243.243 - 64.236.243.243) on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 11:14 pm:

Per Brian Day's post:

I really hope to find him so I can have accurate and truthful input about David in this book, so much about David is rumors and I want his families
input, just as I have Marvin's family representing him, I'd like David's brother to give us some truthful insight from his own perpectives.

Vickie

TammiProject@aol.com

By John Lester (213.122.195.28 - 213.122.195.28) on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 11:50 pm:

I will have you know I was brought up on cockles, jellied eels and spotted dick....and whelks

..but my favourite is pie and mash with that wonderful green liquor made from eel juice!!

Mmmm, lovely!!!!

By phillysoulman (152.163.197.179 - 152.163.197.179) on Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 01:55 am:

Fish pie, apple crumble, bangers and mash
but the only exception is haggis!! Sorry David.

By Ian W (213.122.30.85 - 213.122.30.85) on Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 02:42 pm:

I bet you've never tried a Holland's meat-and-potato pie butty though. (I think you call them sarnwiches down there). Ditto fish butties. Jimmy Ruffin's 'World So Wide, Nowhere To Hide' - fantastic. I bet he never ate them either.

By Carl Dixon Lodnon (195.153.219.170 - 195.153.219.170) on Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 02:48 pm:

Ian W

In 'World So Wide', there is a bit where the backing vocals leap out midway and almost steal the show! 'Tell me what you want' was on Polydor.It was around 1974 I think. I have a copy and great memories from when it was first released here. I am sure it was a UK recording too.

By Ritchie from up in tNorth (62.254.0.6 - 62.254.0.6) on Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 02:52 pm:

Ian OMG!

Holland's Pies... Sometimes I think leaving Lancashire was not a good idea. Ask for meat & potato pie outside of the NW and you might as well be asking for cows' eggs :o(

I used to love Holland's steak puddings too, with chips, mushy peas and gravy, washed down with Ben Shaws.

Aye, that's "Soul Food" - Lancasheer style!

By Ian W (213.122.180.181 - 213.122.180.181) on Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 10:16 pm:

Carl

I don't know the track - I'll have to seek it out now though!

t'Ritchie

I think we need a food site too! I believe they do deep-fried battered Mars bars in David's neck of the woods!

By brianday (212.137.252.26 - 212.137.252.26) on Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 10:28 pm:

i thought tell me what you want was a philly recording?

By Carl Dixon London (195.153.219.170 - 195.153.219.170) on Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 11:33 pm:

It may well have been Brian, but I thought in the distant past, I read it was done in the UK. Maybe it was a tit bit I miss read, who ever she is!!

By phillysoulman (205.188.192.58 - 205.188.192.58) on Monday, March 18, 2002 - 10:34 pm:

Hold on to my love was done in NYC.

By Carl Dixon (62.31.40.155 - 62.31.40.155) on Sunday, March 24, 2002 - 01:25 pm:

I do hope Mr Ruffin drops into the forum. I am sure he would have some great stories to tell us. 'Tell me what you want' and yours Bobby, Got to get you back', were played almost together at the clubs in Hull as the 'newbies' of the day! And here we are discussing them.

By Keith Rylatt (195.92.194.17 - 195.92.194.17) on Sunday, March 31, 2002 - 03:11 pm:

Looking through this thread, and discussing Londoners, Northerners etc (incidentally John L is an Essex Boy, and a jolly well brought up one too!) It reminded me of a time I saw Jimmy R. In the 60's I had seen Jimmy at the Twisted Wheel Club, a Soul club, where we thought were all very hip and serious. But 25 years later I saw him in London at The National Club, in Kilburn (an Irish part of town) and the MC was called Tony Blackburn. In the early 60's Tony was a Motown & Soul pioneer DJ. and still remains a soul fan but he is also a bit of a parody of an aging DJ. Anyway, as I said, the last time I saw Jimmy, Soul officianados were getting LPs autographed, asking him about who farted in the middle of his Miracle recording, where could we get some glasses to look like brother David etc. But 25 years later this audience were TOTALLY different. They were middle aged swingers, tubby 50 yr old women in tiny leopard print mini skirts etc. When Jimmy jumped on to the stage, he was greeted by one of these gals throwing their panties at him!!!! Gulp! I hope that Freddie Gorman doesn't get the same welcome when he comes over to Manchester in June !!! Keith

By Carl Dixon London (62.31.40.155 - 62.31.40.155) on Monday, April 01, 2002 - 09:20 am:

I saw him perform in Milton Keynes of all places and the crowd there that night was a mixed age group. However, you could tell by the bottom jaw of certain people how they were in awe of the mans performance of his classic hits and repertoire and quite easily guess they were toddlers or not even around when these records were in the charts. Those singing the words were the 'mature' fans and those with their gobs wide open were the new students of the Motown sound and could not believe their eyes or ears. Mr Ruffin was tight with his band. I always check the backbeats and Motown signatures out for authenticity, but the man, would be keeping a tight reign on the musicians to ensure they were spot on and in the pocket. It was mid week and the place was packed. He is a true professional and a treat to see. Tony Blackburn, as far as I know, used to play the Motown stuff on the pirate radio ships, that blitzed the southern part of the UK in the 1960's. We must thank him and Dusty Springfield for helping Motown make their mark in the UK.

By Carl Dixon London (62.31.40.155 - 62.31.40.155) on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 04:27 pm:

'Tell me what you want'/Jimmy Ruffin - Polydor was recorded in Sigma/Philadelphia. Earl Young/drums, Norman Harris/Guitar, Bobby Eli/Guitar, Richard Rome/Piano, Ronnie Baker/bass I am informed!! Brian Day I think you were right!

Bobby can you confirm?? Do you remember the session??

By Eli (170.115.179.119 - 170.115.179.119) on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 04:31 pm:

The only time Jimmy was in Philly was when I produced him on the unreleased Epic sides.
Tellme... I think was done in NYC, and not with MFSB.

By jack (216.78.129.240 - 216.78.129.240) on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 06:59 am:

Carl Dixon ;This is jack ashford,Do you know how to get in touch with Georgie Fame? If you do tell him that I said hello And give me some mail Please Thanks Jack Ashford

By Carl.dixon London (195.153.219.170 - 195.153.219.170) on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 07:38 am:

I will give it a shot Jack. I work with somebody who was the bass player with 'Nero & the Gladiators', in gthe 60's. He knows Gerogie Fame and played in his band once or twice. I will ask him.

By brianday@cwcom.net (212.137.218.200 - 212.137.218.200) on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 08:48 pm:

i thought i was right i had the album and remember reading on the sleeve notes and what a great
track it was ,bobby must have been asleep at the time(only joking) ps about time we had a triple album bobby eli and freinds,"i would buy it"

By Clay McMurray (66.73.179.183 - 66.73.179.183) on Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 11:50 am:

Where's Jimmy Ruffin? He's got some hits tucked away that I produced on him and they need to be on the street. Polydor Records must have been making too much money at the time and put the 4 tunes Jimmy and I did together in the Vault. Well
Harry W if you can find the following titles on Jimmy Ruffin under Polydor you may want to take a listen to: Ain't That Cold" The Entertainer" Give You All Th e Love I've Got" If anyone speaks to Jimmy R tell him to contact me. Peace!!

By john lester (213.122.193.70 - 213.122.193.70) on Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 12:15 pm:

Clay

Give You All The Love I've Got - Polydor 2058 586
(c/w Get On Up -produced by Jimmy Ruffin)

Top side was produced by Clay and Jimmy Ruffin and arranged by Ray Dewey

You mentioned only 3 tunes, or does 4 now come after 2!!!

Clay what about Motown titles......did you produce any at Hitsville USA

By john lester (213.122.193.70 - 213.122.193.70) on Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 12:22 pm:

Vickie

You were getting in touch with Jimmy.....can you pass on Clay's request...