By acooolcat (61.222.95.58 - 61.222.95.58) on Friday, August 09, 2002 - 10:43 am:

Here's my last list of 45s missing 50% of the info.
All additions and snippets of info' are greatly appreciated.

Theoda 3206 - It Was Only Yesterday
Is the flip titled -"I'm Human Too"?

Theoda 3510 -Davis and Joe - Double Bad
Theoda 316 - Billy Bare - The Monkey v. The Baboc

Toe - any 45 info anyone?

Tuff - is this a Detroit label?
416 - Ronnie Savoy - Pitfall/

Zebra - Is there a Dusty Wilson 45 on this label?

Thanks everyone,
Graham

By Flynny (213.122.202.157 - 213.122.202.157) on Friday, August 09, 2002 - 11:55 am:

ZEBRA 90040 DUSTY WILSON - BETTER THAN YOU/SILVERY MOON

Reminiscent of his Orbit 45. BTY is a great plodding mid-tempo with some great harmony backing singers, echoing chopping guitar and a rather annoying flute too!

Label looks fantastic with it's zebra stripes on the top half! I've heard the session tape of it too, with half a dozen different takes, but the released version is probably the best.

By Joe Moorehouse (64.12.103.173 - 64.12.103.173) on Friday, August 09, 2002 - 12:01 pm:

Graham, that Tuff label with Ronnie Savoy is out of New York. Mostly famous for being the label of the Jaynette's mega-hit, Sally Go Round the Roses.

Who is the artist on Theoda 3206?

By acooolcat (61.222.95.58 - 61.222.95.58) on Friday, August 09, 2002 - 02:03 pm:

Joe - That's Clifford Binns.
Graham

By acooolcat (61.222.95.58 - 61.222.95.58) on Friday, August 09, 2002 - 02:05 pm:

Thanks Flynny,
Who owned those tapes and what happened to them?
Graham

By Davie G (213.18.222.34 - 213.18.222.34) on Friday, August 09, 2002 - 04:32 pm:

Graham, Joe

Re Tuff Records - it started out as one of
Zell Sanders' labels in NY but I've a feeling
that it may have been sold to Abner Spector
who produced the Corsairs records on Tuff.

The Sanders discs seem to fizzle out around '64
then a new numerical series (400 onwards )
started up with most of the releases produced
by Spector. Chess in Chicago distributed some
of these discs and there are a few discs which
are of Chicago origin (Roscoe Robinson, E Rodney
Jones) - it's possible that in its final year
the label may have actually been based in Chicago.

Spector was still working with Chess in '68 as he
gets producer credits for Wayne Cochran's Chess
album.

By matt (208.130.56.167 - 208.130.56.167) on Friday, August 09, 2002 - 06:18 pm:

graham: i happen to have one of the 45s you asked about WITH ME in my radio-show box today. what a coincidence.

THEODA 316
A: billy ware (note spelling), monkey vs. the baboon
B: no artist listed, monkey vs. the baboon (instrumental)

here's one i think you asked about in another thread:

MILLAGE 101
KaZia
A: i say please
B: what is my next heartache

here are a couple more you may have asked about or not but since i've got 'em in front of me and they're fairly obscure detroit things...

SA-MO 4960
the rhythm king
A: party time (vocal)
B: party time (instrumental)

NEMO EXPRESS 100
the tempting five
A: i can't have you
B: the rap
both sides produced my nemo and mike terry

cheers,
matt

By acooolcat (211.78.28.72 - 211.78.28.72) on Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 05:12 am:

Thanks Matt - the "rhythm king" is actually Sam Motley.
What year is the Nemo Express 45 from?
Graham

By acooolcat (211.78.28.72 - 211.78.28.72) on Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 05:38 am:

Thanks again Flynny - Do you know of any other 45s on Zebra?
Graham

By David Meikle (62.252.128.6 - 62.252.128.6) on Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 01:17 pm:

Here's the "Silvery Moon" side.

By David Meikle (62.252.128.6 - 62.252.128.6) on Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 01:25 pm:

Interesting that C Bell is on the writer credits.

ie earlier references to that name being Mike Hanks Mother or a cover name for Mike himself.

Again the great Joe Hunter crops up.

By Davie G (213.251.162.249 - 213.251.162.249) on Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 06:41 pm:

Graham,

Theoda 3510 - Way Out Jerk

By acooolcat (61.222.95.58 - 61.222.95.58) on Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 07:13 am:

Thanks David - Looking at the publishing it seems that Mike was involved; Dushank = DUSty + HANKs?
Graham

By David Meikle (62.252.128.6 - 62.252.128.6) on Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 12:40 pm:

Graham, I think that is derived from the Producers Hank Wilson and Dusty Wilson.

Although perhaps Hank was Mike!

By acooolcat (211.78.28.80 - 211.78.28.80) on Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 02:26 pm:

Good point David - I guess the only way we'll ever find out is if we ask Dusty or Joe. Leave it with me.
Graham

By Flynny (213.1.133.128 - 213.1.133.128) on Monday, August 12, 2002 - 06:37 pm:

Also note that Zebra Publishing was behind his "Can''t do without you" on Bronse (gold label copies local Detroit presses, and black ones out of New York)!

Graham - I'll try and find/copy that session for you.

By MEL&THENSOME (195.219.7.92 - 195.219.7.92) on Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 06:00 pm:

Iknow of a Zebra label with The Twirl by Henry Hayes,Zebra 341.Dont know if its the same label as Dusty Wilson though.MEL.